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Game 115: Marlins at Nats

Aug 12, 2010, 7:31 PM EST

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER
The Nationals try to salvage one game against the Marlins tonight.

Everybody in baseball has got a nemesis, that one opposing player or team that just terrorizes you every time you meet. For the Nationals, that team is the Marlins and that player is Hanley Ramirez.

Over the last three seasons, the Nats have played the Marlins 46 times. Their record against them is a pathetic 13-33. Think about that. It's a .283 winning percentage. If a team played at that rate over a full season, it would result in a 46-116 record. That's beyond awful.

On an individual level, Ramirez owns the Nationals as much as his team does. The All-Star shortstop played in his 81st game against Washington last night. His offensive totals: 24 homers, 63 RBI, a .361 average, a .449 on-base percentage, a .703 slugging percentage and a 1.152 OPS. Not a bad stat line if you were to extrapolate that out over a full season.

So Livan Hernandez, a former Marlins postseason hero himself, has quite the challenge in front of him tonight trying to avoid a three-game sweep. For those who don't know, they're giving away DVDs of Stephen Strasburg's big-league debut (featuring the full MASN broadcast, plus a bunch of extras) to the first 15,000 fans in attendance. As far as ballpark giveaways go, that's not too shabby.

Check back for updates before, during and after the game…

Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m.
Radio: WFED-1500 AM, WWFD-820 AM
Weather: Chance of storms, 82 degrees, Wind 8 mph in from RF

CF Roger Bernadina
SS Ian Desmond
1B Adam Dunn
3B Ryan Zimmerman

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  1. Stew Magnuson - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM

    Let's see. They only had 15,000 attend last night. They're giving away 15,000 DVDs tonight. It's the Marlins and its threatening to rain.If I show up and they are out of DVDs, I'm going to throw a Jet Blue flight attendant-style fit.

  2. Grandstander - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:09 PM

    Same boat here. I'm going mostly for the DVD. The beer pitcher giveaway tomorrow is pretty great too, especially considering it's for a Friday night giveaway.

  3. Anonymous - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:13 PM

    Why do I have a feeling that the only win I'm going to see tonight is on that DVD?

  4. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:18 PM

    OK everybody. I'm back from my day travels and came up with what could be something that will happen in a couple of season.If Zim continues to have these issues about throwing to first base on routine plays, how about moving him to first base?We would then have a gold glove, power hitting first baseman, and open up third base for someone who may not field as great but can actually throw to first consistently.This may even have dawned on the Nats brain trust (if there is such a thing) and work into the Adam Dunn situation.Sound stupid?

  5. Feel Wood - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:26 PM

    If there's a rain delay tonight, will they play the Strasburg DVD on the big screen? Or on MASN, where it might actually have a chance of beating the Orioles in the ratings?

  6. court - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:33 PM

    NatsJack,Yes, sounds very stupid. There was a link today on Nats Journal to a article about defense. With a plus/minus system, Zim is rated as THE BEST defensive 3B in all of baseball. It's not about errors, it's about making plays is the gist of the piece and nobody comes close to making as many plays and RZ. 3B is a much more critical position than 1B and we're lucky to have the best in the business manning the hot corner. Even if he always has a problem with the routine throws, he more than makes up for it with his range.

  7. Souldrummer - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:37 PM

    @NatsJackThere was an interesting article last night by Joe Posanski of that talked about how errors are not a great stat to measure defensive performance by. There are these guys that focus on every play in baseball and look at each and every play to evaluate how a guy performs defensively.By that metric, Zimmerman is the best 3B in the league defensively. He's not moving anywhere. He does need to have a true superstar's attitude toward improving his game and work on overhand throws if he wants to be even better.Here's the address for the article.

  8. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 12, 2010 at 8:51 PM

    OK.. so stupid is the answer. Just something that popped in my head while driving 300 miles alone with no XM/Sirrius radio.I really appreciate Zim's play at third but the throws which remind me so much of Steve Sax lead me to believe this sort of thing doesn't easily get fixxed.

  9. Souldrummer - Aug 12, 2010 at 9:05 PM

    @NatsJackI don't think anybody's stupid who takes the time to wander into these boards. There are sometimes where I wish they would be more willing to try some stuff out of the box. Three spot starts for Morse at 1st subbing for Dunn against the nastiest lefties is one that I might try if for nothing else than to keep his K totals down and give Morse a slightly different role to see if he has value beyond RH pinch hitter. I also realize I will probably get panned for that thought.

  10. cadeck13 - Aug 12, 2010 at 9:08 PM

    Happy Birthday Mark!

  11. meixler - Aug 12, 2010 at 9:16 PM

    Twitter told me it's your birthday. Happy Birthday Mark! Thanks for all the great work you do.

  12. Richard - Aug 12, 2010 at 9:19 PM

    The idea that errors are subjective and not a useful measure is sabermetrics, right?Anyway, re the Marlins having their way with the Nats, well, hey, I hate to be critical on your birthday and all (happy B-day, Mark!), and/or be negative about my Nats, but how hard is it to dominate the Nats? The Orioles beat 'em every year, including an ugly recent sweep, and then there's that Houston series ….

  13. Anonymous - Aug 12, 2010 at 9:25 PM

    This DVD is a horrible giveaway as are all Nats giveaways!

  14. Anonymous - Aug 12, 2010 at 10:49 PM

    The Orioles do not beat the Nats every year. Until this year the overall record between the two teams was basically even.

  15. Sam - Aug 12, 2010 at 11:23 PM

    Richard, the idea that errors are subjective and not a good metric is common sense.Also, happy birthday, Mark! Thank you for all of the hard work you put in.

  16. Jim Kurtzke - Aug 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM

    Happy birthday, Mark. Your site and writing have been huge additions to all of us.

  17. Stuart - Aug 13, 2010 at 1:19 AM

    Happy birthday Mark, wishing for a (near) future birthday during a Nats pennant race!

  18. Richard - Aug 13, 2010 at 1:20 AM

    Sam, not so common, really. Errors are, of course, a factor in re fielding percentages, which have been the measure of defense until, well, until Bill James and the sabermatricians started questioning it. Anyway, it's an interesting topic to kick around a blog like this.

  19. Aussie Gus - Aug 13, 2010 at 1:36 AM

    Happy birthday Mark!

  20. Sam - Aug 13, 2010 at 1:48 AM

    Richard: Supply and demand are economic principles. Does that make them not common sense? Anyone who lives has, at one point or another, experienced the idea of supply and demand (i.e. whenever someone buys anything). And anyone who has ever watched a baseball game has, at some point, said out loud: "That's a terrible call. You can't give that guy an error on that play." Or something like that.Even if you don't realize it, it is common sense. Just like most flyouts go to the opposite field because when you are late on the ball, you get under it. If you think about it for more than a second, it becomes pretty obvious. I guess that's what Bill James did. He brought it to our attention because we were so content with not thinking and just accepting whatever people told us.

  21. Anonymous - Aug 13, 2010 at 2:47 AM

    Well, Seth Bynam just homered in the bottom of the 13th inning in Syracuse. Go Chiefs!

  22. Anonymous - Aug 13, 2010 at 3:39 AM

    @ManassasThrough 5 innings Marlins RISP 1 fo4. Nats 0 for 8. For the record the RISP for the season going into to night is .251. Our opponents .268I have fussed about the coaching of Rick Eckstein all season and will continue. When I see people trying to pull outside pitches I wonder what the thought process is. You are playing right into the pitchers hands. Granted I can't see the ball well enough to hit it at all, but these guys can see it and hit, but are not using the basic IQ of baseball pull inside, hit away outside. Doesn't take rocket science to get the mental part of the game. having watch 50 years of baseball, I know the team that does the routines things best usually wins the games.

  23. Anonymous - Aug 13, 2010 at 3:43 AM

    One problem most of the season is a lack of passion on the team. This was my complaint under Acta and that part of the team has stayed the same. It's a losing combination. I suggest giving it a try and see what happens, we know not having it is a poor combo.

  24. Doc - Aug 13, 2010 at 3:51 AM

    It should have kept raining!

  25. natsone_va - Aug 13, 2010 at 4:12 AM

    Gosh we stink!!!

  26. Ernie - Aug 13, 2010 at 4:52 AM

    I sat through every stinking minute of this one. God knows why. The ushers were even asking people why we were still there. I was so desperate for anything to happen I cheered for Willie Harris's single as if it were a home run. I came home hoping to see what Pudge had been arguing about with the umpire behind the plate after Ramirez fouled out. I figured someone here would know or that Mark might have mentioned it in his commentary. No luck. Can someone help out a poor schmoe who actually witnessed that disgusting offensive performance tonight?

  27. natsfan1a - Aug 13, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    Ernie, during the broadcast, Carpenter speculated that the ump found Pudge's (prolonged) framing of a pitch objectionable, and may have felt that our catcher was showing him up. Carpenter also stated that the two had an equal number of years in the bigs.

  28. Buzz Killjoy - Aug 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM

    If it's not a violation of the DMCA or any other rules, would any kind soul consider uploading the Strasburg DVD.If it's not doable, I'll understand.





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