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Pavano, Webb, relievers and trades

Dec 8, 2010, 12:57 AM EDT

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Several clubs have expressed interest in Roger Bernadina, but the Nats still like the outfielder.

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — We interrupt today's never-ending string of Cliff Lee rumors to discuss other actual moves being discussed by the Nationals at the Winter Meetings…

– Lee is by no means the only pitcher they've been pursuing here. Mike Rizzo acknowledged he's spoken "a couple times" with Tom O'Connell, the agent for Carl Pavano. Pavano remains a potential target of the Nats, though there are plenty of teams in the running for him and I get the sense Rizzo is nowhere close to as willing to put together a long-term offer for the soon-to-be 35-year-old as he is for Lee.

– The Nationals certainly remain interested in Brandon Webb, the one-time NL Cy Young Award winner who was drafted by Rizzo when the latter was the Diamondbacks' scouting director in 2000, but there's a growing perception around the sport that Webb is nowhere close to being ready to pitch after major shoulder surgery. A source from another club that is looking at Webb said he'd be stunned if theRead more ยป

  1. Souldrummer - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM

    I'd strike any of those relievers who are Type A off the list. So no to Rafael Soriano and some of the others.

  2. Rob Dibble's Ghost - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:07 AM

    So now that it's not happening, can you tell us who this mystery person (or people) was? Please?

  3. joemktg - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:10 AM

    Thanks for torturing us.With Werth, there is excess talent, and if clubs are asking about Bernie and Morse, then the Nats should move at least one. If there's any fear that Morse traded to the Phils will come back to haunt the Nats, all you have to do is throw breaking balls outside. Problem solved.

  4. BQ - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:11 AM

    What about Bobby Jenks? Could turn out to be another Matt Capps?

  5. Nick - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:11 AM

    @Dibble, seconded.

  6. Kenz aFan - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:11 AM

    Since the even more jaw-breaking deal that you hinted at turned out to be a non event, could you please share the name with us, so we can get a chuckle as well?Even if a few will start fantasizing about having that player in a Nationals uniform, we need a distraction from the overflow of Cliff Lee rumors. So please, share the name. We need the distraction.

  7. Mark Zuckerman - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:27 AM

    Let's just say the biggest surprise of that surprise move that never happened would have been the impact it would have had on the "Face of the Franchise." That's why it was such a bizarre rumor.You guys should be able to put two and two together now, based on all the theories presented over the last couple days.

  8. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:29 AM

    Beltre?Yeah?Ok, Beltre.

  9. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM

    I agree that you need to tell us the mystery name (though I'm just an anonymous :P)

  10. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:39 AM

    Mike Harris said Beltre first a loooooooong time ago? Now he is suddenly gone silent … still it makes sense given who his agent is? ;)I am thinking they may have to blow their whole wad on Lee as they did on Werth. They are still running into to many roadblocks when they explore the trade avenue.Another draft or two, some more guys from the DR and other International signings and things could be different in a year or two.But now, they seem to almost have to sign, seal and deliver Cliff Lee.

  11. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:39 AM

    Ladson revealed the rumor. Beltre at third base and Zimm at first base.http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101207&content_id=16275036&notebook_id=16275038&vkey=notebook_was&c_id=was

  12. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:50 AM

    Ladson is waaaaaaaaay behind Anon 8:29. Go to the link on your right called fanboylooser. You will see a post about a rumor from a couple of days back.

  13. Rob Dibble's Ghost - Dec 8, 2010 at 2:22 AM

    Heyman says the Nats are not in on Lee. Boo.

  14. Doc - Dec 8, 2010 at 2:41 AM

    Morse coming back and haunting the Nats—count on it!Funny how Morse's a bench player on the Nats, and a regular in RF on the Phillies. Gee, I guess Uncle Jimmy knows more about BB than Charley Manuel.Ladson on rumors, is like Sarah Palin on Korean politics.

  15. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 3:46 AM

    Glad to know that Riz is a common sense guy not a star nerd, too many people get wrapped up in numbers and not what get actually see o the field!!

  16. Rob Dibble's Ghost - Dec 8, 2010 at 4:59 AM

    In Nats Alumni news, MLBTR says Wil Nieves (Who?) is close to signing a major league deal with the Brewers.

  17. Luis - Dec 8, 2010 at 7:05 AM

    Carlos Pena is off the market:http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/cubs-carlos-pena-agree-to-terms.htmlNow what???

  18. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 9:06 AM

    is that a Grienke for Zimmerman? Straight up?

  19. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 9:11 AM

    meaning Ryan for Zack

  20. MikeHarris - Dec 8, 2010 at 12:38 PM

    Thank you, Cubs. Now go get Adam LaRoche.Yeah, Beltre was the rumor I mentioned and I can't speak for Mark that it was the same guy he heard about – but my reaction to Beltre was the same thing. Too bizarre to be true.That said and as I noted, I've been too bizarre to be true happen before. Glad to hear it won't happen in this case. No knock on Beltre, just not a match. Now go get a good left-handed bat (coughLaRochecough) to play first base.

  21. MikeHarris - Dec 8, 2010 at 12:39 PM

    I've, uh, SEEN too bizarre to be true. Not been (though I'e been called too bizarre to be ture).Too early to be typing.

  22. Ballinonabudget - Dec 8, 2010 at 12:46 PM

    Yes, thank you Cubs! I preferred LaRoche the whole time. Would he take the same 1-year $10 million deal that Pena did? Maybe 2 years and $14-16 million?

  23. Bzl. - Dec 8, 2010 at 1:57 PM

    Re: Pitching: Now that we're big spenders, I bet Rizzo could get the Giants to give us Zito and his $18MM salary. Maybe we could get them to give us a relief pitcher as further compensation for eating Zito's compensation. Just an idea…

  24. Todd Boss - Dec 8, 2010 at 2:21 PM

    Webb only throwing mid-80s in the instructional league isn't really THAT much a cause for concern. Look up his pitch f/x trends; even during his Cy Young season he only averaged about 88mph. He could hump it up to 92 if he wanted, but his strength is in his sinker, not his speed. That seems to be the major difference between Wang and Webb.

  25. JamesFan - Dec 8, 2010 at 3:08 PM

    Nats would be crazy to trade Morse. He has excellent potential to be a great every day player and gives them flexibility at many positions. To trade him without huge reward will be a mistake.

  26. Anonymous - Dec 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM

    The rumored move of Beltre to 3rd, Zimmerman to 1st Base is THE MOST STUPID THING I'VE EVER HEARD IN ALL OF MY LIFEZimm is arguably the best 3rd baseman in all of baseball…STUPID EVEN FOR A RUMOR!

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