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Beltway Baseball Live – 7/27/11

Jul 27, 2011, 2:00 PM EDT

It's turning into an eventful week for the Nationals, who yesterday made a trade for Jonny Gomes, continue to field calls about Jason Marquis and others, will make a roster move today to clear space for Chien-Ming Wang to make his much-awaited Nats debut on Friday and last night got trounced by the Marlins to fall into last place in the NL East.

Chase Hughes and I discussed those topics (and answered your questions) at 1 p.m. in this week's live edition of Beltway Baseball. If you missed the broadcast, here's the full show posted in two segments (Part 2) is below…Read more ยป

  1. FSogol - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:12 PM

    Of course, the question of the the day is, "who goes down when Gomes arrives?"

  2. JaneB - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:23 PM

    And why is Gomes a good trade for us, given the current composition of the team. Does this presage a trade of Nix or the release (or retirement) of Stairs? Also: do YOU believe the BJ Upton rumors? And if you do, how could that possibly, in any universe, be a good trade for us (not that I have an opinion about this)?Looking forward to hearing the replay! We love when you are on.

  3. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:33 PM

    Mark:There has to be some head-scratching over this Gomes move. It makes sense for them in terms of adding some RH thump for the remainder of this lost season, but for really no other reason as the guy is a dead-bolt lock to be non-tendered for 2012. And too little too late. Is Rizzo just trying to keep Johnson happy by giving him a little more of a chance to win some games down the stretch? Why was Rizzo not adding a bat 3 weeks ago (via trade or call-up) when it mattered? He claims to be in it to win, but it looks like he is only in it enough to finish 4th, if they are lucky. dfh21

  4. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:47 PM

    What the Gomes trade, if they wanted a chance at a RH power bat off the bench, why not simply call-up Rhienhart. That way you see what you have in him, amd you get to keep Manno.Also who do you think will be a September call-up.Ive got Lombardozzi, Marrero, Wilkie, Severino, Zinicola, Mandel, and Milone with shots at one

  5. joemktg - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM

    All of the names bandied about in trade gossip, I haven't seen Michael Morse come up in discussion. If GM Rizzo believes in selling high (see Matt Capps), should we expect Michael to stick around?

  6. Sec 3, My Sofa - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:59 PM

    No mystery. They got a short-term RH bat for two minor leaguers they obviously aren't high on. Unless … they expect to lose a rh outfielder soon.

  7. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 3:21 PM

    A sale of Morse is interesting, as his value right now would be very high, I would think. Power and average, position flexibility, control going forward. But, I would be very surprised to see Morse moved, as he is a bargain contract guy. They like bargains, they don't like to move them for other pieces. But for the Werth contract idiocy (in my opinion), the Nats are risk-adverse to the point of being paralyzed when it comes to making big moves.dfh21

  8. Get Some Players - Jul 27, 2011 at 3:22 PM

    Looks like Cincy likes trading with the Nats. Bill Bray dealing—a 1.89 ERA.

  9. HHover - Jul 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM

    MarkWith the Gomes trade and Wang scheduled to pitch Friday, the Nats now need to remove not one but two players from the 25 man roster this week.Matt Stairs seems obvious, but who's the second? And would you predict it to be by demotion/release, or by trade?A trade for prospects could solve the problem, but the deadline isn't til Sunday midnight.

  10. Will - Jul 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM

    I fully expect Jason Marquis not to pitch another game with the Nats, and it solves the too-many-starters problem when Wang is promoted.I'm sure Rizzo has some standing offers (they probably aren't very appealing), and he'll take the best one available when other deals start cropping up.

  11. Section 222 - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:02 PM

    Mark, I'd love to hear your take on Davey's bullpen management. Seems to me that the Nats are suffering for keeping a long reliever/spot starter (Detwiler) who unlike Miss Iowa can only pitch once every four or five days. Wouldn't we have been better off keeping Balester or another mid reliever arm out there? I guess with the Wang/Gorzo situation that won't be an option, but I don't think the 6 man bullpen plus Detwiler has worked for us.

  12. josh f - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    This team needs a shake-up: in the lineup, in the rotation, and the bullpen. If the Gomes move means we don't have to see Stairs again, it's a plus. I'm sure more moves are coming…Question: Will the Nats consider shutting Jordan Zimmermann down early, given how rough his last two starts have been? How close are Milone and Peacock to a call-up?

  13. Sec 3, My Sofa - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:27 PM

    Riggleman was in town with the Giants recently. Do you know if he stopped by the park to say hello to anybody?

  14. A DC Wonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

    Re: Gomes — in the last thread I pointed out that Nix is batting .083 against righties, and Gomes is batting .333 against righties.Yes — he might walk after this year. But! What I've read is that he's pretty certain to be a Type B, and that means if he walks, the Nats get a "sandwich pick" — who could well be worth more than Rhinehart. A sandwhich pick occurs between the 1st and 2nd rounds, right? So, that's better than getting a 2d round draft pick next year. (Do I understand that right?)Anyways, if I do understand it right, I think that is a key factor for the trade. We get a "right handed Nix", cheap salary, and a better than 2d round draft pick — in exchange for Rhinehart and a guy still in low A ball.Now, I've been a Rhinehart fan for a while, but you have to give something to get something. And giving up a guy who's only in AA at age 26 for a better than 2d round pick doesn't seem unreasonable.

  15. HHover - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

    Sec 222Agree re: Detwiler 100%. He could get cut Friday to make space for Wang; I don't see Detwiler getting traded himself, unless it's as an incidental piece of a trade being made for other reasons. But his role in the current BP makes no sense, and just over-taxes everyone else. One way or the other, it's got to change.As for some of the other comments re: JZimmLet's not be too quick to draw conclusions from 2 bad starts. Yes, this is the most he's ever pitched in a season, but he hasn't exactly been overworked of late–with the ASB, he's made 3 starts in 3 weeks. I have to think they're monitoring him more closely than most because of his youth and TJ surgery. And obviously, if they have actual concerns about his health, that's one thing. Otherwise, I see no need to deviate from the plan of 150-160 innings.

  16. Water23 - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

    It has been a little while so, how is the Rizzo – Johnson relationship going? Are they on the same page as to what the Nats want to pick up? Rizzo tilts towards defense, pitching but Davey seem to want the big innings.

  17. Jimmy - Jul 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

    Mark,The team has played so flat under Davey Johnson. Is there a chance he does not even get looked at as managerial candidate for the 2012 nationals?

  18. Gonat - Jul 27, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    Bryce Harper having a big day! Playing some long ball and feeling hitterish!!!!

  19. Steve M. - Jul 27, 2011 at 5:46 PM

    Gonat is at the game and emailed me the 1:30 update and asked me to post for him. I thought he was joking. The Senators website is 20 minutes behind real-time and finally showed the HR.Harper's 1st HR in AA!!!!

  20. Wally - Jul 27, 2011 at 5:55 PM

    The Twitter world is afire with trades, actual and rumored.Seems like people think TBJ got Rasmus cheaply.Beltran to SF Giants for Gary Brown (speedy cf prospect) plus 2, or Zack Wheeler. If it winds up being Wheeler, I believe that the internet will shut down due to overreactions.And Gomes, people are …. Nah, no one talking about Jonny (please help me find my 'h') Gomes.Pretty funny to see it unfold.

  21. A DC Wonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:00 PM

    Jonny (please help me find my 'h') Gomes.Didn't the Nats have a couple players with misplaced h's? Jhonathan Solano, etc.?

  22. A DC Wonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:10 PM

    In other news:Ervin Santana of the LA Angels has a no-hitter going against the Indians — he just finished the 8th inning with his 9th K.

  23. natsfhan1a - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:10 PM

    Elsewhere in the bigs, we've seen Jhonny Peralta and Jhonny Nunez.

  24. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM

    Hah! Good one, Nasfhan1a!

  25. Steve M. - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM

    The Cleveland Indians and the Pittsburgh Pirates haven't smelled 1st place in a long time. They have to make moves.With Rasmus and Beltran off the board on other trades, the Tampa Bay Rays are in the driver's seat now or so it seems. They have BJ Upton who is being dangled in front of them and supposedly the Nats for the highest bid.It couldn't have worked out better for Tampa and the Nats are still being mentioned as part of the bidding war. You need at least 2 bidders to drive up the price, right?I am hoping it is all fluff and Rizzo has no intention of betting the farm on Upton at this point but it will be interesting to see how far the Indians go to get him.

  26. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM

    And now we are rumored to be in the mix for Ubaldo ('guessed as a mystery team' technically). That would take Stras, Harper and Rizzo's dad, no?Very little chance that work gets done today; just too much fun.

  27. Steve M. - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Harrisburg 6-3 winners. Harper 3-4 with a HR raising his average to .250

  28. A DC Wonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:28 PM

    No hitter. Congrats to Ervin Santana

  29. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:32 PM

    DC Whonk – always seems odd to have a run scored in a no hitter, doesn't it? Plus, Cleveland made 5 errors

  30. Scoohter - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM

    Nice job, Ehrvin. And look out Eastern League.

  31. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:38 PM

    Anyone know about the ants getting ubaldo Jimenez? ANOTHER MISSING "h" lol

  32. A DC Whonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:38 PM

    DC Whonk – always seems odd to have a run scored in a no hitter, doesn't it?Indeed! A weird runs/hits/errors line: 1 0 5 (!)I see between the two teams only one run was earned (in the 3-1 game). Sahntana had 10K's 1BB. Nice.

  33. Steve M. - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:41 PM

    The Blue Jays announced they've acquired center fielder Colby Rasmus and pitchers Trever Miller, Brian Tallet, and P.J. Walters from the Cardinals for starter Edwin Jackson, relievers Marc Rzepczynski and Octavio Dotel, outfielder Corey Patterson, and three players to be named later or cash considerations. The Blue Jays will flip Miller to the White Sox, according to ESPN's Buster Olney.

  34. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:42 PM

    There goes Stairs. He wasn't doing the job for Davey so he gets supplanted by Gomes.

  35. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    Also noticed CAA played Bourjos in CF and Trout in LF, with Wells at DH. I guess Bourjos really isn't available. That is a pretty good defensive OF (with Hunter in RF, too)

  36. PAY TO PLAY - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    Cleveland Indians had 5 errors in that no-hit game today. OUCH

  37. A DC Whonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    Scoohter said… Nice job, Ehrvin. And look out Eastern League.Bhy mhy calculations, Hharper's Hhitting .300 over his last tehn ghames

  38. Unkyd - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    Gomes' Pops was a big Jonny Quest fan…

  39. Anonymous - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:47 PM

    A sale of Morse is interesting, as his value right now would be very high, I would think. Power and average, position flexibility, control going forward.There's no one else like him in the minors or on the current 25 man to replace him with? No one else is even close to hitting .300? Espinosa is now in a 3 for 25 or 25 slump and his average has dropped. Werth has been in a season long drought. Morse is close to untouchable this year. It might be different in the offseason. If he decides to forego arbitration the Nats would get 2 draft picks when he is resigned. He is now listed a an "A". I suspect they resign him to a contract and he plays left field next year until they can work out a trade for LaRoche.

  40. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:48 PM

    Nationals Designate Matt Stairs For AssignmentMy guess is that the blog posts finally drop below 200 per game now?Anon@2:47 – I don't think that Morse can forgo arbitration until after the 2013 season

  41. Steve M. - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:51 PM

    Whally, so no Stares = 200 – X = Y ?

  42. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM

    Yes. BUT: Y+Z=200+ again, where Z = the next person to blame all our troubles on. My hunch is Davey.

  43. NatsLady - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM

    Gomes ok with me. Nix needs rest or he will permanently damage that achilles and be worth nada. Yes, I love Nix's bat, but he's gotta heal.

  44. A DC Whonk - Jul 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM

    Well, this veritable plethora of excess h's gives me an idea — that I can call my wife "Whonkette" to distinguish her from the more famous blogger called Wonkette.Whonkette's undergrad degree was psychology, and she was asking me why people were booing Jason Werth. Note: she _did_ already know that Werth is hitting terribly and had a huge contract, but she couldn't see how that related to the booing and thought the booing would make him perform worse.She said: the people that boo either want to see him fail, or else they just want to feel good about themselves when he does fail.(Hey, I know enough not to argue such things with her. But she did want me to post this!)

  45. Harper_ROY_2012 - Jul 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM

    Interesting time of year with rumors flying around, are the Nats really in the mix for Ubaldo? If so, what couold we possibly give them, if they are asking for three of the Yankees top 4 prospects!!!!???Upton for Detweiler!? I would give 5 Detweilers for Upton, get on that one Riz!Peacock untouchable? nice move Riz!Desmond being shopped..again kudos Riz bring back something good.

  46. JaneB - Jul 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM

    Ah. Matt Stairs DFAed. I thought I was pining for these words. Turns out they make me a little sad. For him, not for us. GYFNhG!

  47. Whally - Jul 27, 2011 at 7:08 PM

    DC – I think the Whonkette has something there. Because of all his failures with men on base (or it seems that way), I think that he would be booed this year anyway, but somehow the contract seems to make people boo him more.

  48. natsfhan1a - Jul 27, 2011 at 7:18 PM

    I also think Whonkette has something there. Also, I think that she might also find the comments here interesting from a research perspective (relative to her field) should she wish to read and post on her own. Just kidding. Sort of. But the more, the merrier, if she does want to post sometime.JaneB, it makes me sad for him, too.

  49. natsfhan1a - Jul 27, 2011 at 7:19 PM

    Gosh, did I use also enough times there? Hehe.

  50. whaddu eye no - Jul 27, 2011 at 8:19 PM

    the h thing. i don't ghet it

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