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Game 5: Nats at Mets

Apr 10, 2012, 7:19 PM EDT

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Ross Detwiler makes his season debut tonight at Citi Field.

They won two nailbiters, and now they've lost two nailbiters. Eventually, the Nationals will play a game that doesn't come down to the ninth inning, right? Right?

Perhaps that will happen tonight in the second of a three-game series against the Mets. Ross Detwiler becomes the final member of the rotation to make his season debut, and this will be the left-hander's first opportunity to justify the Nationals' last-minute decision to hand him the job over John Lannan. If he pitches the way he did last September and this spring, Detwiler should be just fine.

A couple of changes to Davey Johnson's lineup: Steve Lombardozzi and Xavier Nady each get the start. Lombardozzi, who has seen a little bit of time in left field so far, will start at second base. (Danny Espinosa, who got elbowed in the head in the ninth inning last night, gets the day off.) Nady, meanwhile, starts in left field, with Mark DeRosa (0-for-the-season) taking a seat.

As you know, I'm not in New York for this series. Enjoy the game and the conversation as always…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at NEW YORK METS
Where: Citi Field
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: WFED (1500 AM), WHFS (1580 AM), XM 183
Weather: Mostly cloudy, 58 degrees, Wind 13 mph out to RF

NATIONALS (2-2)
SS Ian Desmond
2B Steve Lombardozzi
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche

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240 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. UNTERP - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    I'll have my Bourbon tonight…

  2. Joe Seamhead - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    We should start a pool to bet which starting pitcher gets the first win. I've got Ross!

  3. lesatcsc - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Let's go Lombo! Let's start a second base controversy!

  4. Steady Eddie - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Hmmmm… so now the learner HP ump (who ejected 4 guys from a 2007 Twins-Bosox game as a MiLB callup) and the less-than-competent 2B ump get to blow calls at 3B and 1B, respectively.Not respectfully.And neither of these guys is Joe West. Past time to have electronic sensors and computers call balls and strikes. Let the HP ump call fouls, HBPs, and safe/outs at home. That's enough damage.

  5. baseballswami - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    What is the highest number of innings by RossD in the last year or so? I am thinking he is not so stretched out because he was expecting to be in the bullpen. I predict a Craig Stammen appearance. And – it is about time for one of our starters to be an actual W. Of the curly variety,please.

  6. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Off topic– Detroit looks really good.

  7. Just sayin' - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    NatsLady – you are absolutely 110% correct on that one. I've watched three of their games and they are the class of the AL, its seems.

  8. Tcostant - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    I kind of like this lineup, I see 6 runs tonight…

  9. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:03 PM

    NatsLady, I still think playing Miggi Cabrera at 3rd base and Fielder at 1st will bite them in the ass eventually.

  10. UNTERP - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    jd said… NatsLady, I still think playing Miggi Cabrera at 3rd base and Fielder at 1st will bite them in the ass eventually.Yeah, but we don't live in eventually…

  11. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    I still think playing Miggi Cabrera at 3rd base and Fielder at 1st will bite them in the ass eventually.That league has a DH where they can hide one or the other. The Tigers aren't worried.

  12. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Let's go Lombo! Let's start a second base controversy!Precautionary move by Davey after Espinosa got smacked down at first.

  13. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Is Espi OK? Just getting a day off, I hope, and Lombo getting a start before he gets sent down?

  14. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Swami- Detwiler's longest outing last year was also his best. 7.1 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO in a Nats win.But he only went 6 innings or more in 5 of his 10 starts.Not sure about the previous couple of seasons.

  15. baseballswami - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Miggi made a gold glove play at third — Prince is picking it at first. Don't count them out. And then of course there is Verlander…….

  16. FS - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    people forget about fister and porcello is only 22 or 23 years old. however I think Rays can be better than them.

  17. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    Is Espi OK? Just getting a day off, I hope, and Lombo getting a start before he gets sent down?Davey appears to be a lot more cautious when it comes to injuries as opposed to Riggleman. Watching Riggleman trot LaRoche out every night with the shoulder problem was beyond pathetic … really pathetic. And I said as much. If it had that effect on me have to wonder if maybe Riggleman's inability to manage a major league ball club didn't have a bit of an effect on how this team is managed today where injuries are concerned.

  18. baseballswami - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    CWJ – thanks — I hope he has been eating lots of cookies! I would love to see him come out with some edge. He pitches better with some Natitude. Maybe winning this spot, even temporarily ( if it is) may give him a confidence boost. Does anybody actually think we will see Wang anytime soon?

  19. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    Fister is on the DL.DETROIT — Detroit right-hander Doug Fister is headed to the disabled list after he left his first start of the season Saturday with a left-side injury.The Tigers announced after their 10-0 victory over Boston that Fister will go on the 15-day DL on Sunday, and the team will recall RHP Brayan Villarreal from Triple-A Toledo prior to the game.

  20. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    Swami- No problem :)It's fun to keep game logs for all the pitchers.Mine are written in pencil on paper, but they can be found online as well.I thought about tracking the hitters games, but that would be a little too tedious for me :-)I'd like to see Wang back at some point. I thought he looked good in that ST game before he got injured. I was very impressed with all of his pitches.But, I'm pessimistic that we'll ever see him pitch for the Nats for more than a couple games. He seems to be snake-bit, with all the weird injuries.

  21. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    After seeing Chis Sale last night, Detwiler looks like Hulk Hogan compared to him.

  22. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    NatsLady- Seems like the DL's have been steadily filling up for all teams since March began, doesn't it?Did anyone see Moore pitch for the Rays today?I read that he was a bit wild. Apparently he's considered to be a Strasburg type but without the pinpoint control of SS.

  23. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Wright is not playing tonight? Really ? Is that just a rumor?

  24. TimDz - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    I'd like to see Wang back at some point. I thought he looked good in that ST game before he got injured. I was very impressed with all of his pitches.But, I'm pessimistic that we'll ever see him pitch for the Nats for more than a couple games. He seems to be snake-bit, with all the weird injuries. ————————-I just have this impression of CMW leaving the dugout to take the field, then tripping on the last step and doing a face-plant.Dude needs Yoga…or ballet maybe…(btw…I am not wanting this to happen…I'm merely commenting on the "snake bitten" aspect of his career…)

  25. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:48 PM

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  26. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    David Wright was scratched from Tuesday's lineup against the Nationals with a bruised right pinkie.Wright feels pain in his right hand when swinging, but X-rays were negative on the pinkie and Mets manager Terry Collins told reporters that the 29-year-old third baseman should be ready to play Wednesday. Wright is 7-for-12 this season with a home run and four RBI. Ronny Cedeno is filling in at third base against the Nats.

  27. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    Swami, Miggi was a butcher at 3rd base for the Marlins 5 years ago. Now he's older and slower. Neither he or Fielder is DHing. I predict that this won't end well for the Tigers.

  28. Will - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    It's a bit odd that the players who fared best during Spring Training (Zimmerman, Werth and DeRosa) have been awful so far, while the guys who struggled (LaRoche and Desmond) have played the best.Coincidence?

  29. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    Now they are saying Friday for Wright's return to the line-up. Wright scratchedhttp://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7796994/new-york-mets-david-wright-scratched-due-bruised-pinkieFine with me.

  30. Will - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    Hmm, looking at the final ST stats, I didn't realize how poorly Werth finished (Zimmerman too), and how strongly Desmond finished. I guess it's all about getting some momentum as the season begins.

  31. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    So Wright will get to hit against Strasburg tomorrow with a bruised finger? I definitely don't envy him making any contact against 97mph bat-breaking fastballs inside!Ouch! :-)

  32. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    NatsLady- Oh ok. Probably a wise decision by the Mets :-)

  33. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    Looking at the advanced stats Werth wasn't bad … just not even close to what you'd expect for the highest paid player on a team. He appears to clearly be in decline. Also, even with the strikeouts he and Espinosa didn't do that badly … now Desmond on the other hand … not so hot. I'm more concerned about Desmond's trend … again no walks, swing at everything from leadoff … stark difference in yesterday's game. Lombardozzi as a PH leads off and works a walk … Desmond follows and is unable to lay down a bunt to move him up. Speaks volumes at least to me. Desmond may be on his way out.Jayson Werth 649 PA, .332 wOBA, 6.5 bRAADanny Espinosa 658 PA, .331 wOBA, 6.1 bRAAIan Desmond 639 PA, .310 wOBA, -5.4 bRAA

  34. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Werth is the highest paid per year and Jackson is third – ouch.

  35. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Is it too early to start beating up on Werth? He doesn't look any different than he did all last season. Taking a first pitch called strike, swinging at a ball at his ankles and grounding into a rally killing double play.

  36. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    this is off topic but heres a link to a radio interview a mets cross checking scout did with dc 106.7 the fan about strasburg,zimmermann and pitching in general,it has some really interesting stuff,nats fans should listen to ithttp://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dV/dG/dF/dJ/VGFJ_3.MP3

  37. Wadlez - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Morse shut down indefinately…………………………… horrible news

  38. NG - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Um, where does it say this guy is a Mets cross-checking scout? He describes himself as a "nobody."

  39. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    Kilgore tweet:Davey says Morse had trouble reaching the shortstop from left field and took himself out of the game in Hagerstown. "That stresses me.

  40. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    Okay. Ross, have a big dinner and pitch 7 innings please!

  41. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM

    Morse = pretty frickin un-bueno

  42. Wadlez - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:50 PM

    And screwed…..

  43. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    At least Werth is 100% healthy…

  44. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Tweet about yesterday's game, which was the first time Morse played the field. (Suspicious, to me)."Didn't even attempt to throw out runner in 1st inning yesterday on a flyball in medium-shallow LF"

  45. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    Any chance that Morse's issues are related to coming off steroids? He used to juice.

  46. Mick - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    What the hell…. I can't believe this shit is happening, this is 1970 all over again. Storen, Morse, whats next??

  47. Sam - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Is Todd Tichenor the umpire who threw out Roy Oswalt a few years ago against us?

  48. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Any chance that Morse's issues are related to coming off steroids? He used to juice.Nah, Roger Clemens lasted a long time didn't he? If anything using steroids helps ameliorate injuries incurred athletically. Morse has had a history of injuries going quite a ways back. His most serious was to his shoulder after colliding with a wall while still with the Mariners. He missed the entire year due to surgery and ended up back in AAA afterward. He ended up as a bat (amazingly improved after the injury!) without a position as a result. It may be that same shoulder is still an issue?

  49. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    Corey, Bryce and TMo had better step it up in Syracuse they might be needed.

  50. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Brace yourselves. This was the point last year that the Zimmerman hate started. Morse is about to become public enemy #1…

  51. Theophilus - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Steroids typically affect tendons and ligaments.

  52. natsfan1a - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Maybe when they flipped the switch some went to "on" and others to "off." Nah. :-)Will said… It's a bit odd that the players who fared best during Spring Training (Zimmerman, Werth and DeRosa) have been awful so far, while the guys who struggled (LaRoche and Desmond) have played the best. Coincidence? April 10, 2012 4:58 PM

  53. natsfan1a - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Dang, just scrolled through the rest of the comments and read about Morse.

  54. natsfan1a - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Maybe the scout posted the URL?NG said… Um, where does it say this guy is a Mets cross-checking scout? He describes himself as a "nobody." April 10, 2012 5:44 PM

  55. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    I have not commented on the Morse injury issue aside from noting it was a lat muscle on his right side and not a labrum issue like LaRoche. Now I'm not convinced it isn't more like the labrum issue especially since it is throwing that is most affected.At any rate it isn't good so some young outfield guys need to turn it up pretty quick.

  56. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Yup.. it's time for some of the Baby Nats to step and become Nats. Tonight, it's Ross's turn to start showing why he was a first round pick. The guys down on the farm can work their way up with the Morse Injury. Would love to see Corey Brown get a shot, but it may be too soon. Also, hope that Nady/DeRo/Carroll can step up and produce from the bench.On a brighter note, the Mets are without the services of Mr Wright for the next two nights. Let's hope that favors us.

  57. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    At any rate it isn't good so some young outfield guys need to turn it up pretty quick.Better resurrect the left-field work for T-Mo and his right-handed power bat. Still months away for Marerro. Destin Hood won't be ready. Kobernus and Perez are the only one's hitting in Harrisburg.Brown and Harper are left-handed bats so they would theoretically replace a Tracy, Bernadina or Ankiel.

  58. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Here is where we will see the mettle of Davey as manager. (And the loyalty of fans.)

  59. sm13 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Whatever the details "indefinitely" is not o good prognosis for Morse. The over-under on when Bryce comes to DC may have just moved June15 to May 1.

  60. Mick - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:38 PM

    If Werth was not WERTHLESS, this would not be so bad

  61. UnkyD - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Getting ready to see just how deep we are, huh?I think we're pretty deep… I'm still thinking a game of two over .500, at ASB… Who wants some KookAid? ;-)

  62. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Can we declare a moratorium on the WERTHLESS comment. That horse has been dead and beaten hundreds of times.

  63. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Say it ain't so!Well, I guess a full season of LaRoche will at least partially cover the loss of Morse.Other than that, bring up Harper soon.

  64. Cwj - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Unkyd- some heavily spiked KookAid would be nice about now :-)

  65. NatsLady - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Keith Law was saying that Charlie Manuel was a "great" manager when he had talent for five years, but now that the Phillies are old and injury-ridden he is making a ton of mistakes with lineups and bullpen management. So now Davey is in somewhat of a situation. (As are Rizzo and the minor-league managers.)

  66. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Two years / $10 million. And with the contract signed, a debilitating physical problem is uncovered. Who am I?

  67. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    Goon Squad: Hello Mr Gee.. My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!

  68. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    Time to bring up Brown and Harper(may). No shock about his injury. That is what our medical staff does.

  69. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    DANG.. Ian hit that ball hard!

  70. Anonymous - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    At least this will be the end of a bunch of no-nothings clamoring for Morse at First Base! A righty at first?

  71. JaneB - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Ian Desmond is our lead off hitter. Yes he is.

  72. Cameron - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Nats starting pitching has so much trouble holding leads. Everytime the nats score, the SP gives up runs in the next inning.

  73. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    oh boy. not liking Det so far.

  74. Exposremains - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Hopefully Detwiler gets out of this one but my first impression on the team:Desmond is an excellent surprise but now that spring training is over Werth, Rodriguez and some others back to their old self

  75. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    How you liking it now, jd?

  76. Cameron - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Disregard my prior comment.

  77. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Ross ate his Wheaties this morning!

  78. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    ok I take it back.

  79. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    Liking Det a little better now?

  80. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Won't last long throwing 25 pitches in the 1st inning.

  81. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Behind every silver lining, there's a dark cloud. Gonna one of THOSE nights, huh? OK.

  82. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    beI was missing a be there.

  83. MicheleS - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    That was a nice hit!

  84. Joe Seamhead - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    Nary? Give me Corey Brown.

  85. Joe Seamhead - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Darn spellcheck. Nady. Give me Brown. He''s a better fielder,too.

  86. JaneB - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    I just heard the Morse news from the TV… Then scrolled your comments. This is what I get for working right up to 7:07.I hope they don't drag out whatever needs to be fixed till May, like they did with Zimm and ALR. I know he does, too.Worried about Espi too, but Lombo is filling in well. I'm glad Werth got on base, even if he didn't make it home.

  87. Joe Seamhead - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    Come on, fellows. We can't waste any lead-off extra base hits, especially from Jason Werth. Argggh

  88. Exposremains - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    if the nats did the little things like scoring when they have chances they would be 4-0 and could be 5-0

  89. jd - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    what a play by Desmond !!how many short stops make that throw?

  90. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    C'mon Desmond haters. Where are yoi

  91. Joe Seamhead - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Not many, jd. Super play!

  92. Grandstander - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    Dare I say that play was, Jeter-esque?

  93. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    This is really bad baseball….Johnson should have sent a message to the team……pull zimm for the night…..that is just bush league to assume an umpire's ball call as you run the bases…..costs runs and they can not hit anyway…..If I am Johnson I am really mad right now about how this team seems to be taking advantage of his good will and assumed professionalism he cut them all Spring.Njack….he looks great so far….sample size?

  94. Erik - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Nationals are either liars or incompetent…I don't know which is worse. These injuries are getting ridiculous. Have to make a trade or something now or we are playing for 2013. Johnny Damon anyone??? Lombardozzi out with a broken kneecap…Wednesday's headline.

  95. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Ian D play was better than Jeter…..that is as good as it gets…..but I would rather he had picked up the relay in Chicago cleanly…..that was an easy play that would have won the game.

  96. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Wow, Erik. Really?

  97. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    Gameday needs to post more vids of defensive gems. Would like to see the Desmond play…

  98. Erik - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Yes UnkyD…REALLY!!! That is unless of course you plan on the pitching staff keeping an ERA below 2.00. Damon is still a good player and I can't think of anybody that needs him more than we do right now.

  99. Anonymous - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    RossD's hook is just ridiculous tonight!

  100. Grandstander - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Detwiler's curve is disgustingly good right now. If he can keep dropping it in there, this is going to be a long night for the Mets.

  101. NatsJack on Florida - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    Current sample size……excellent….. JayB's historical dark cloud? ……Well how about past history.

  102. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    So… Shark to LF, when Ankiel comes up?

  103. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    The bumbling of injuries is a long term issue for the team. Nothing new there and something they have yet to address…..Rizzo and Johnson were a bit too arrogant all Spring with all the "I'm not concerned" and It is too early to care attitude….this is how seasons get flushed…….again

  104. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    Erik, I was referencing the kneecap line….Again. Really?

  105. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    Njack….you know if SS make the routine plays…every time…you win more that SS that make amazing plays but miss just a few routine plays a month….just baseball but true.

  106. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    In JayB's world any bad play made in the past far out weighs any good play today. This is what a 2 game losing streak brings us…..vintage JayB.

  107. Anonymous - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    Nady really?? 2 terrible at bats and a bad play in the field. Please explain why he is here ahead of Corey Brown?

  108. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    The Cub Game Cut off muff….that cost them the game….the web gem tonight….means nothing.

  109. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    Damon is not still a good player.

  110. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Nobody in the history of baseball has made every play every time, routine or otherwise.

  111. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    trust your heart just skipped…that is what I am talking about Njack…but you know this….you just do not like to admit it.

  112. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    true….but i know you understand what we are discussing here…..

  113. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    plays made today–good or bad–outweigh plays made in the past.

  114. JayB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    If Ian D has 12 or less errors…..he is an all star…..and a very valuable player…..He will have over 25 again

  115. Erik - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Look up his stats from last year Section 3. He would be our best outfielder!!! Do you actually watch other teams besides the Nationals…EVER???

  116. bdrube - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    So what are the odds that the Nats finish the night with just the one run scored? 50-50 at least I'd say.

  117. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    I don't need no stats. I have opinions. That's the currency in here. OK, I'm just messing with you. All the windging makes me cranky.

  118. baseballswami - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    These one -run games – ugh – we just cannot expect our pitchers to keep it at zero every night. I miss Mikey!!!

  119. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Thank you, Jesus, for not making me somebody who can't enjoy Det's nasty hook, because I can't get last weeks error out of my head…. That's gotta suck. Amen

  120. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Didja find the Evan, Unterp?

  121. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    Better leave the bottle, Unky D.

  122. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    Morse looks to be repeating Zim's timeline from last year. I did think it odd that they were talking about bringing him up on Thursday when he had played the field so little.If the Nats won't make a trade for an OF that can hit, I agree with the comments to give Moore and Brown some time. I also don't think keeping both Bernie and Ankiel makes sense, since they are essentially the same kind of player.But man, we are being overwhelmed with injuries up and down the organization. Any more news on Goodwin?

  123. Anonymous - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    Morse = da Meathook

  124. Scott from Burke - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    When Werth was on third with one out they should have bunted…Detwiler could have stood there and watched 3 strikes go by. Only one game but looks like sending Lannan down was absolutley the right move. Zim getting thrown out at 2nd on the 'steal' was horrendous..then the announcer, after Zim hustles down the line his next at-bat, says "that tells you what you need to know about Ryan Zimmerman" or some such stupid comment…the team is in good shape..hopefully Morse is back in the next 3 weeks..but the tv play by play guy SUCKS

  125. SpingfieldNatsFan1 - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    Looks like Det's coming out. Amazing job tonight. Hope the bullpen doesn't blow the win for him!

  126. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    Salma Hayek gets my heart to skip a beat…..routine ground balls not so much.

  127. Joe Seamhead - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    WOrth!

  128. SpingfieldNatsFan1 - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Only one start, but if Det keeps pitching like he has over his last 6 regular season starts, I don't know what they are going to do when CMW returns from the DL. But that's a problem I don't mind having….

  129. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    NatsJack FTW

  130. Erik - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Freddy Garcia-5 WP's in 4 innings…has to be some sort of record.

  131. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    SALMA!!!

  132. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    I'll take that nubber for Werth.The Nats do seem to have some odd things happening medically, though. I haven't looked at any stats, if there even are any, but we seem to have a lot of injury issues, and their public comments as things are unfolding do not give the impression that they have a good handle on things. Of course, they could just be offering standard GM-speak and offering the standard 'he'll be fine' until they know for sure what is involved. The one thing that makes me suspicious about that is that it isn't Davey's MO.

  133. JaneB - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    I am glad Werth got his first RBI tonight. We need The Shark to get a hit tonight. Det pitched well, and I'm glad. My glass is more than half full tonight, that's all I'm saying.

  134. Joe Seamhead - Apr 11, 2012 at 12:59 AM

    This is the guy we've been looking for. Way to play the game, Jason!

  135. sm13 - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Werth showing his worth with the bat, on the bases, and in the field. Optimism!

  136. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Camptown races all night long, Duda, Duda!

  137. Joe Seamhead - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Holy Smoking Duda, Batman!

  138. jefwx - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    Now these are the Mets.And we have the better pen.And that's why when we'll have an awesome record when we're ahead.

  139. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    Bad AB by Chad there. Needs to put the ball in play. C'mon Desi, bring in those ducks.

  140. Mr. Doggett - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Not sure if too much has already been made about this on these postings, but can someone please explain F.P.'s man-crush on Werth?

  141. SpingfieldNatsFan1 - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    Let's hope Stammen comes in and continues to shut down the Mets. No free passes. Keep the foot on their throats!

  142. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    Lookit that, willya? Coupla runs and the windges go all crickets…

  143. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    That's been a strike all night. Might as well start swinging down there, guys, he's gonna call it.

  144. MicheleS - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    That was a good inning

  145. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    Does anyone know where the idea of referring to very fast pitches as 'the cheese' came from?

  146. GoNats - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    so just to be clear, its going to be Clip 7 and 8?

  147. Gumbo in Gotham - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    I love seeing Werth having such a good game.

  148. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Mr. D, I'd say it's a combination of FP being an unrepentant homer, an announcer who's paid to be colorful and enthusiastic, and a former major league player who might just know what he's talking about.

  149. Anonymous - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    I think FP has a man crush on the entire team.

  150. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    Would have been fun to see Miggy handle that one.

  151. djinFl. - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    Sorry you all did not hear the Mets announcers talking about overcoming injuries. How it is just part of the game and should not interfere with winning titles.That was just before they found out Wright has a fracture and is out until he feels he is ready. We are lucky that Cory Brown is nearly ready, not to mention others for various positions. We do not need anybody that teams much more needy than us have passed on.That was what I expected from Det tonight.

  152. Mr. Doggett - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Ok this is all probably true…but anyway, Werth is the key to the season in my mind. We already know we have Laroche back, adds wins from last year, and we have Zim the whole year. The final X factor has to be Werth. He earns his money, is the tipping point…we are in the playoffs. Oh yeah.

  153. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:14 AM

    Wally, fastballs are thrown hard. Some cheese is hard. So the "hard cheese" becomes just "cheese."

  154. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:17 AM

    djinn, I'm sorry I missed that. I can just imagine.

  155. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:19 AM

    Gonats: I'm thinking Stammen is the "long guy"…. he goes in the 7th?

  156. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:22 AM

    Sec 3 – ah, thanks. A little underwhelming knowing that answer, though. Was hoping for something a little more like 'back in the '20's, teamsters used to deliver cheese to store owners by flinging it at their heads without stopping the truck, and the shopkeepers would have to jump out of the way to avoid getting hit ….'

  157. RickH - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    How 'bout that Jason Worth!

  158. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    That was a Werth-rocket.

  159. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    This is a save situation for Stammen if he finishes. Couple more runs and Davey might even let him.

  160. jeffwx - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    I apologize Jason for my lack of faith in you.

  161. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:24 AM

    Wally: that's good enough for Wikipedia… Run with it!

  162. dj inFl. - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    Looking good Tcostant said… I kind of like this lineup, I see 6 runs tonight…

  163. SpingfieldNatsFan1 - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    Let's not waste Clip tonight. With Storen gone for the long term, I'd really like to protect Clip as much as possible.

  164. Joe Seamhead - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:27 AM

    Can't resist: It's been Werthwhile watching the game tonight.

  165. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    Wally, I can do better if you like. The high fastballs are pretty scary up and in, and back in the early days of the game, catchers used to tease rookie hitters who looked scared after being knocked down, asking "Who cut the cheese!??", implying the hitter had soiled himself.How's that?

  166. JaneB - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    See those Mets fans doing the wave? They've given up on the game.

  167. Mr. Doggett - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:31 AM

    We should beat up on these Mets all season. Let's start getting used to winning, people. Think about how much better it'll be once we figure out all their pitchers (who have "6" pitches in their repertoire.")

  168. JaneB - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:31 AM

    I love that FP is smart about what he's seeing and that he loves this team. It makes it way more fun AND illuminating to watch.

  169. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Sec 3 – perfect, I am going with that one. Ok, here is another one: 'chin music'. See if you can work Ty Cobb into it.

  170. jeffwx - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Dennis Eckersley is credited with the introduction of "cheese" into baseball as a description of his fastball. He was quoted as saying "cheese for your kitchen" as a way to describe a fastball that went up and in on the hitter.Other theories trace the origin back to the 1800s when "cheese" was a term used to describe something that was the best of its kind.

  171. A DC Wonk - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    JayB said…This is really bad baseball….Johnson should have sent a message to the team……pull zimm for the night…..Glad nega-JayB isn't the manager . . .

  172. jeffwx - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    Also 'good cheese' or 'hard cheese'. Refers to a good fastball. We have been given a number of explanations as to origin. Contributor Whit Mcleod mentions Dave Draveckey's book "Called Up", pg. 107, which credits Dennis Eckersley with inventing the term. Here's a longer explanation from contributor Joe Hernandez: Although the term "cheese" is relatively new to baseball it does have an older origin. According to the London Guide (1818), it defined ""cheese" as standing for "the best thing of its kind." In many 19th century slang dictionaries you will find it to mean anything first rate in quality. Folks would say "that's the cheese" to express that the item is of good quality. It is believed to be traced to the word "chiz", which in Hindustani and Anglo-Indian means "thing", rather than the food. Also from Joe: A more contemporary term for cheese is cheddar. Lenny Dykstra is quoted in Newsday, 3/1/1988 stating, "Doc Gooden blew some big-league cheddar". In "Pure Baseball", Keith Hernandez discussed "the high, rising cheddar". Remember that according to Bill Lee ( The Wrong Stuff), 1984) Dennis Eckerley called himself the "Cheese Master" and talked about "cheese for your kitchen" to mean "a fastball up an in". In the St. Petersburg Times (3/5/1987), Wally Backman in describing a fastball by Nolan Ryan, wrote "threw some good hard cheese up there". In Spanish we also use the term high cheese as in "alto queso" to describe a fast ball high and in. Other terms use are "good cheese" to describe a blurring fastball. As a kid, growing up in Brooklyn, we use to talk about throwing the fastball to "his cheese" (his forehead) to mean high and in.

  173. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:44 AM

    You rock, Burnie!! Clean this up!!!

  174. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:45 AM

    Oh, wait, you weren't making that up about Eckersley? I'm sort of disappointed.

  175. Scott from Burke - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:46 AM

    JayB said…This is really bad baseball….Johnson should have sent a message to the team……pull zimm for the night…..right…it was abad play but hes the cornerstone of your franchise who just signed a huge contracy and generally hustles and works hard..it's not like he's bj upton or hanley ramirez

  176. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:46 AM

    Jeff – good stuff. The 19th century has the right feel to me. Where'd you track it down?C'mon Voldemort, one more out.

  177. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:47 AM

    Yes! That was big.

  178. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Johnson should have sent a message to the team……pull zimm for the night…..I'm just glad he got them in the right order.

  179. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Fireman!!! Whoopwhoop!!!

  180. sm13 - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:49 AM

    So, are those soft, unhittale breaking balls that Sean just tossed called "cream cheese"? Great job!

  181. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:51 AM

    So that would make what Livan throws … Velveeta?

  182. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:53 AM

    Livan just throws butter…

  183. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:54 AM

    I'll bet the Guys are happy. Being on base is fun!!!

  184. sm13 - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:54 AM

    I think Livo throws cheese whiz…

  185. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    Did JayB have to work early….?

  186. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    If Eck was the Cheesemaster, that would make Livo the Cheese Whiz. And he is smooth as butter.

  187. A DC Wonk - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    Let's bask in Det's mini-gem some more (as he takes a swig of kookaid): no hits after the first two batters — a 51 of 70 pitches were strikes; only 1 BB to go with his 6 K's in 5 IP.Might we have the best #5 starter in the league?

  188. UnkyD - Apr 11, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    Luv me some Desi…. jes' sayin'…..

  189. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    Duda, Duda!The Moose did not look … graceful on that, but it looks good in the books.

  190. A DC Wonk - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:02 AM

    Predictions from our non-negative folks earlier this thread:baseballswami said… What is the highest number of innings by RossD in the last year or so? I am thinking he is not so stretched out because he was expecting to be in the bullpen. I predict a Craig Stammen appearance. And – it is about time for one of our starters to be an actual W.andTcostant said… I kind of like this lineup, I see 6 runs tonight…Nice jobs, guys.Someone ought to have predicted Zimm's 500th RBI!

  191. realdealnats - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:03 AM

    PFB Call TConstant. Now let's make a liar outta ya and tack on two more.

  192. jeffwx - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    Got cheese and other fascinating facts from a google that led me tohttp://www.webball.com/cms/page3205.cfm?presto_view=CTime to fire up the fondue set.

  193. realdealnats - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:05 AM

    What kind of cheese will Clip be delivering?

  194. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:05 AM

    Ramos kind of looked like Carlos Baerga there.

  195. Wally - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:09 AM

    A DC Wonk said…Might we have the best #5 starter in the league?Great effort tonight, but I think that he needs to prove that he can handle three times through the order and pitch into the 7th before we can go there. That is his big hurdle.

  196. A DC Wonk - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    Great effort tonight, but I think that he needs to prove that he can handle three times through the order and pitch into the 7th before we can go there. That is his big hurdle.True. But I think he can. He's got good stuff, and he's putting it together well. I think all he needs is a bit of time to build up a bit of stamina. I think he'll get that.

  197. sm13 - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    Nice recovety for Tyler. Kept his poise and mixed the hard cheese with the spreadable change ups.

  198. NatsNut - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    I would give a kajillion dollars for a moratorium on the way-overused and tired pun on Werth's name.

  199. Anonymous - Apr 11, 2012 at 2:15 AM

    trust your heart just skipped…that is what I am talking about Njack…but you know this….you just do not like to admit it.Handling Injuries, the roster? Again JayB? Maybe you should go root for Riggleman's Wahoo's because he's the guy who likes to have pitchers like Vilone, Batista, Gaudin, Livo … in case of injury? HOW DID that work out? Last I looked last place right?The Nats aren't going to panic go out and hire some ancient cast-off to make you feel secure that they are handling injury possibilities. Right now Jeff Kobernus and to a less extent Eury Perez are tearing up the Eastern League. Corey Brown has three times the number of walks to K's in the lead-off position as he only has 2 K's so far. He also has 2 triples. Rosenbaum is starting out great … Hassan Pena has looked good so far … They are going to go as far as the prospects will carry them … they aren't afraid. NO more Riggleman mode.

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