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A rare chance to breathe easy

Apr 26, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

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Adam LaRoche went 3-for-4 in last night's 7-2 victory in San Diego.

You'll have to forgive just about everyone who was inside the Nationals dugout late during last night's game showing off their pearly whites. They certainly haven't had many opportunities this season to smile wide while games were still underway.

Of their 13 previous victories, six had come by just one run, two had come by two runs, three had come by three runs and two had come by four runs.

Thus, a 7-2 dismantling of the Padres was welcome relief for a Nationals club that to date had experienced nothing but tense baseball through the season's first three weeks.

They needed this one, they really did. That may sound strange when you consider this is a 14-4 ballclub we're talking about, owners of theRead more »

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  1. Dryw Loves the Nats - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    I could just sit and read the stats over and over. I've watched (or been at or listened to) the games, I've read the stats mounting daily, and I still find it hard to believe. "Bordering on the absurd" from yesterday's headline is exactly right–but what a beautiful, joyous absurdity it is! Sweep today??

  2. Section 3, My Sofa, or else sitting in the PFB truck - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Good year to be working on a book on the team.

  3. Positively Half St. - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    It would be great to go into the LA series with a 3-0 start to the road trip. Even though the Braves showed that the Dodgers can be had, it is not going to be easy to win that series.+1/2St.

  4. djinFl. - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    PFB when the reality is better than the koolaid.

  5. Theophilus T. S. - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Zimmermann — Good as ever. LaRoche — MVP so far. Ankiel — showing unaccustomed signs of consistency. Ramos — beginning to hit in the clutch. Lombardozzi — might be able to play 3B after all (though that last throw to LaRoche showed why they are paying Adam the big bucks — and why he's worth it, and why next year's option is starting to look like a no-brainer). Gorzellany — doing exactly what they want him to do, and keeping his cool. Desmond — two BB; not that they were important to the outcome but at least he was able to do it. Espinosa — warming up slowly.Much to like.

  6. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    If this is a dream, don't wake me up!It was good to see Espi get 2 hits on his Bday in front of the family. Has Desi ever gotten two walks in 1 game? JZ and Gorzy getting an RBI each? Who are these guys? Seriously, I feel like we have entered an alternate universe. I would love a sweep today, I think EJax would love to redeem himself after that last outing, especially since Gorzy did yesterday.

  7. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Everbody keep enjoying this. It can continue. People really need to understand what a special combination the Nats have in the Davey/Rizzo duo.

  8. LoveDaNats - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    This is the most fun I've ever had as a Nats fan! OK, that Zim walkoff against the Phils a couple summers ago was PFB. I love the chemistry. I love the way they don't give up. Imagine what this team will be with Zim healthy again, Morse and Storen back and Harper waiting in the wings. So pumped! Love this team!

  9. MurrayTheRed - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    I love this team! Remember all this is Rizzo's doings, don't forget all the less than nice things said about him, the Lerners, and us(the Washington fans).I love this team!!

  10. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    MicheleS said… If this is a dream, don't wake me up!It was good to see Espi get 2 hits on his Bday in front of the family. Has Desi ever gotten two walks in 1 game? JZ and Gorzy getting an RBI each? Who are these guys? Seriously, I feel like we have entered an alternate universe. I would love a sweep today, I think EJax would love to redeem himself after that last outing, especially since Gorzy did yesterday. April 26, 2012 7:52 AM _________________________________Shame is the casual sports fans around DC have no idea. The radio coverage is RG3, the Draft, the Caps playoffs, the Wizards winning streak

  11. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Edwin vs Edinson tonight and tomorrow night is the Dodgers series as Ross Detwiler brings his 0.56 vs. Cy Young Kershaw and his 1.61 ERA. Saturday is Stras vs. Billingsley and Sunday is Gio vs. Capuano then a day-off on Monday.

  12. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM

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  13. SCNatsFan - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Another stellar outing by the staff. Lets hope Zim is just out fora short stretch and continue the Nats train rolling.

  14. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    Tweet of the night and I removed 2 letters from his curse word:@AngryCapsFan: I have people on my timeline talking about the #Nats right now? Are you f$%king kidding me?

  15. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    Last night was too good to be true — A west coast game that was over before 10 pm, and an easy win. Very glad that Gorzo was able to close the game out, get the 3 inning save and give the rest of the bullpen the night off. PFB. What else can you say about Zimmermann, the silent assassin. Not only did he pitch spectacularly, he got an RBI hit. My favorite humorous moment, though, was when Carp was extolling Znn's bunting prowess just as he was popping up into a DP. Oops. Here's hoping that the Padres' visit to 33 K Street is as unsuccessful as their trip to 27 K Street was last night. That unit block of K Street is scary!

  16. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    After losing 9-3 to the Astros last September 10th, the Nationals' record stood at 66-77. They then finished the season with a 14-4 run, leaving their final record at 80-81. Of that 14-4 run, people said it didn't mean anything because it was September, rosters were expanded, the teams they beat were either out of the race or resting for the playoffs, yadda yadda yadda. Now the Nationals have started the season with a 14-4 run and people say it doesn't mean anything because it's early, they've only been beating bad teams, this good pitching can't possibly be sustained (although, strangely, the same people who say that have no problem saying that the subpar hitting will absolutely be sustained), their record in one run games is bound to even out eventually, yadda yadda yadda.So my question is this: At what point does a 14-4 run mean something?

  17. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    My favorite humorous moment, though, was when Carp was extolling Znn's bunting prowess just as he was popping up into a DP. Oops. 222, that was the park's fault.

  18. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Nice matchups coming up. EJax has to be good Edwin tonight.Detwiler/Kershaw is really Det vs the Dodgers lineup and neutraluzing Matt Kemp and the Nats taking advantage of the Dodgers bullpen.Again, Nats have to take care of business tonight.

  19. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    String-of-Hexidecimals, it's not that it doesn't mean anything–it means they are off to a great, PFB start, but that is all it is–a start. They have won 10 more than they lost, which is a nice running start into the harder parts of the season, when the rest of the league's hitting catches up to the pitching, including the Nats's pitching. What do you want it to mean?

  20. UnkyD - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Poster from Digitopolis:Right now, Baby!!!!

  21. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    LoveDa, I'm definitely loving this ride but I did have a PFB time in 2005, too. That year will always have a special place in my heart, because it's the year I fell in love with my Nats. Maybe this year will have a special place as the year that they loved me back, as in Fever Pitch. :-)

  22. Section 215 Row A - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    The National's top 4 starters' ERAs this morning:Detwiler 0.54Strasburg 1.08Zimmermann 1.33Gonzalez 1.52Unworldly!

  23. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    So my question is this: At what point does a 14-4 run mean something? But to answer your question: THIS is when it means something.

  24. alm - Apr 26, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    This is awesome. Love watching this team. Just bought tickets for next Friday – Hope there are no more rain-outs so that I see Stras.This run is great but it hasn't YET topped the 10 game win streak in early 2005. I had full STs then and attended every one of them. Close but not there yet.

  25. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    See also thisSection 3, My PFB Sofa said… So my question is this: At what point does a 14-4 run mean something? But to answer your question: THIS is when it means something. April 26, 2012 8:53 AM

  26. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    See also this

  27. SCNatsFan - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    I think 14-4 right now is huge; while it doesn't guarantee anything you have to think of the panic if we were 4-14. Right or wrong the guys on the team know they can win, something this team has never known; its always been potential.

  28. Joe Seamhead - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    I'm more then a little frustrated with overall indifference being shown by the press, both nationally, and locally, along with local residents. I guess it will take a playoff/World Series appearance to get some respect and appreciation. Certainly a big time home run hitting star would help, too. Calling Mr. Harper and Mr. Taylor.The time to step it up is fast approaching! My two biggest hopes for the immediate future are that we continue winning, and for the Stadium to be filled with mostly Nat's fans May 4th, 5th, and 6th.

  29. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    JoeS.. agree with you on the media. I do see some tides changing in that area. I think national baseball writers are definetly taking notice and the MLB Network guys love us. ESPN will never have great coverage (b/c it's not the NFL), although I watched BBTN last night and apparantly Nats Fans were getting a little Salty on twitter about the lack of coverage. Our local media – we have our awesome host to thank, plus Amanda, Kilgore, Boz (who is funny on twitter),the new guy at MASN, etc. Sports talk radio will be years behind because A) it's not the NFL, or B) they are bandwagon fans and don't care unless you are playing in the Playoffs (see Caps coverage)

  30. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    Wish to commend Jayson Werth for his first-pitch ground-ball out in the top of the 9th. Leading 7-1, get your pitcher off the basepaths! That's one that won't show up in his batting average, but I'd rate it a "sacrifice."Game story for the Chiefs win. Lannan gave up 5 (4 earned) in 7 innings, but Mark Teahen and Jason Michaels both hit grand slams, so Lannan got the win. Harper 1 for 3 and got caught stealing.Two grand slams lead Chiefs past Red Wingshttp://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120425&content_id=29672254&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&sid=t552

  31. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Sorry, I think it was top of the 8th. Great fun watching Gorzy get that long save…

  32. JamesFan - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    The importance of high velocity pitchers who throw strike and athletic defense. If this keeps up, the next statue at the main entrance should be one of Rizzo.

  33. jeeves - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Hopefully, Jackson will bring his Dr. Jekyl persona to the fore. Mr. Hyde has been dominate too many times. Four of his last five outings have been very poor, at least for an inning or two. Obviously, I'm counting spring training which overall was not good for the flamethrower. That one good outing, on the other hand, was a sight to behold. We want more of those, Edwin.

  34. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    "If this keeps up, the next statue at the main entrance should be one of Rizzo."How many Tommy Bahama shirts should his statue be wearing?

  35. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Attendance? Your first place Ballmer team, on a fine 70 degree evening?Weather: 70 degrees, clear.Wind: 6 mph, Out to RF.T: 2:24.Att: 10,415.Oh, they stayed home to watch their hockey team in the playoffs? Oh, right, that's what happened. Free Dontrelle Willis…Literallyhttp://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-dontrelle-willis-literally/

  36. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Yeah, it's nice that Danny Espinosa turned 25 this week and all, but a former Senator just turned 101. Happy birthday, Mr. Marrero.

  37. Oldguy - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    What it means is that .500 ball from here on is 91 wins. That's playoffs.

  38. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    I figure 86 wins Old Guy. 14 + 72.

  39. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    oooh, just heard great stats on Gio: he is the first pitcher since 1918 to have 3 starts of 6 innings or more with no runs allowed and 2 or fewer hits. Career best K-rate, career-best ground-ball rate, career-best walk rate. "A legitamate break-through pitcher for this year."–from MLB.com Fantasy 411

  40. alm - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    I had 87 wins as a prediction and when (not if) we get some hitting – Zim, Morse and Harper – looks like we will go beyond that.GO NATS!

  41. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    OTOH, the on the same podcast they are not liking Milone as much, long-term, with a fast-ball that tops out at 89 MPH. He is in a pitcher-friendly home park, but his next start is in the Fenway Flamatorium.

  42. JaneB - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Yikes. What happened to Dontrelle? he was so good…what went wrong?But I digress. Because what a wonderful morning for DC sports. Though my sport, of course, is the One True Sport.My favorite comment of the day is this:djinFl. said…PFB when the reality is better than the koolaid.

  43. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Re: the pressShame is the casual sports fans around DC have no idea. The radio coverage is RG3, the Draft, the Caps playoffs, the Wizards winning streakandI'm more then a little frustrated with overall indifference being shown by the press, both nationally, and locally, along with local residents. I guess it will take a playoff/World Series appearance to get some respect and appreciation.Yes — the press is frustrating. However, the Nats really haven't earned anything yet. The Caps are in the playoffs; RG3 is a very exciting player; etc.Toward the end of June — if the Nats are still playing great — when there is no NHL, NFL, NBA news — the Nats will have the PR stage to itself. If they do well then, then the press will take notice, crowds will start to swell, and things will really change.But — all we have to show right now to the general-just-barely-paying-attention public, is "we're off to a fast start." And, for folks who do not understand just how awesome the Nats pitching staff is, most of them probably thing the Nats are just on a lucky streak, and will soon fall flat (as in the latter half of 2005).In the meantime, let's keep racking up those wins. I trust the essential fairness of life in this area: if the Nats are still deserving of "top of the sports page" and "leading of the sports segment" in June, I believe it will happen.

  44. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Josh Willingham on a hot streak going out for a couple of days on paternity leave. Congrats to the Hammer on both!!!

  45. Exposremains - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    one thing they are doing different is that they are winning when they play bad teams which was not the case in previous years. Lets see what they can do against good teams.

  46. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    Speaking of attendance: Nat's home attendance per game is up 5,384 over last year after 10 home games — which is the fourth largest increase in MLB.

  47. NatsNut - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    I know it's weird, but I'm actually *glad* that we're not getting too much media attention yet. I'm loving this ride, but I'm still half holding my breath. My hope is to get at least round or two through the NL East, plus the AL East later this year, and if we're still in a good (read: winning/dominating) position, THEN unleash the media hounds.

  48. peric - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    As I said if by some mechanism the Nats do make the playoffs this bullpen and starting rotation is built to win those short season games. And that sec3 is what you learn from this particular 14-4 record. The problem is there is another team with the same record using the exact same mechanism and they were in the playoffs and world series just last year.

  49. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Once the dispute is resolved, someone should pick up Willis as a pinch hitter. Last year in 31 AB he had 12 hits, including 3 doubles, 1 triple, and a homer. His OPS was 1.032!Can he play LF?

  50. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    I believe that Texas is .5 game ahead of the Nats. Los Angeles is 1.5 back.

  51. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    I always liked Dontrelle.

  52. blovy8 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Section 222, maybe Ankiel can convince Dontrelle to try it.

  53. Nats1924 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    it kinda of bothers me when people refer to the DC baseball team prior to the 1954 season as the Senators.Mark – If I'm not mistaken, weren't we officially the Nationals till the 1950's or so?

  54. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Bobby V. up there in Boston instilling confidence in his players again. Apparently he filled out an published his lineup under the assumption that Liam Hendricks is a lefty. Ooops! One of the players questions it so he comes out with a revised lineup and the BoSox win… not a fireable offense, but, say wha? No internet in your office? No stat books?

  55. JT - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Please, don't wake me!!

  56. Nats1924 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    Ha, I was going to say Fenway might actually not have internet but I just noticed this was a Sox rad game.

  57. Exposremains - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    harper in LF today, has he ever played there?

  58. m20832 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Toward the end of June — if the Nats are still playing great — when there is no NHL, NFL, NBA news — the Nats will have the PR stage to itself. If they do well then, then the press will take notice, crowds will start to swell, and things will really change.Unfortunately, Skins have OTA's. The press has to, just has to cover those with RG111 coming!The three games against the Dodgers will be a real measure of where our Nats are. I Luv them Nats though and it's been just wonderful compared to the last few seasons.GYFNG!!!!

  59. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    Down on the farm:From KilgoreFor AA Harrisburg: "Daniel Rosenbaum allowed no runs in seven innings on three hits and two walks, striking out two. He lowered his season ERA to 0.94."Potomac only managed two hits, getting shut out. But Hagerstown … get this: they left 16 men on base! But they still managed to score 24(!) runs in a 24-2 victory. (Matthew Skole walked 5 times — in 8 at bats).

  60. Paul 66 - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    It is incredible. I subscribe to the WP's e-mails and today, in the sports section it spoke about Ward (totally understandable) and the next item is about the ORIOLES!!!!The Nats are 14-4 and this city's "newspaper of record" still thinks the city has no MLB team of its own! And DC Wonk hopes that when there is nothing else to talk about they will talk about the Nationals? No wonder Angelos behaves as if he still owns the rights to DC. I can only hope that the arbitration process will right the ship a little. And then perhaps he can ask the Washington Post to help pay the bill!

  61. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    (err. . . I meant: walked 5 times — in 8 plate appearances).

  62. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    Yeah, the RedSox were in Minn where they did sweep but two of the three were squeakers. And on the sad side, Aubrey Huff is on the 15-day DL for anxiety-disorder.Aubrey Huff seeks anxiety treatment – 15-day DLhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/25/MNSQ1O9A0F.DTL

  63. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    Sec3…..do you know this mystery team that has the same 14-4 record as the Nats? I can't find them listed in the standings.

  64. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    "it kinda of bothers me when people refer to the DC baseball team prior to the 1954 season as the Senators.Mark – If I'm not mistaken, weren't we officially the Nationals till the 1950's or so?"It's often said that the names Senators and Nationals were used interchangeably during that time. A search of the Hall of Fame online uniform database shows that in 1905 and 1906 the team's home jerseys displayed "NATIONALS". In 1907 they had a block "W", and in 1908 they had "WASHINGTON". After that, either nothing or a block "W" appeared on the front of the team's home uniform every year until 1959, when a script "Senators" appeared. Thus the team never played a game after 1906 with "Nationals" on its jerseys.

  65. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Yes, Boz on Twitter is funny:The Nats pitchers, for now, look like they wouldn't care if the lineup was Des, Espinosa, Tracy, Nady, Flores, Lombo, Bernadina and Davey.Also, apparently Boz is a Davey fan:Gorz "took one for the team" last wk. So Davey let him hit (up 6-1); he gets RBI hit, then a 3 IP save. You manage PEOPLE, not "players."You can see all of his Tweets if you do this but he was into the Caps, mostly.https://twitter.com/#!/ThomasBoswellWP

  66. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Paul 66 said… It is incredible. I subscribe to the WP's e-mails and today, in the sports section it spoke about Ward (totally understandable) and the next item is about the ORIOLES!!!!The Nats are 14-4 and this city's "newspaper of record" still thinks the city has no MLB team of its own! And DC Wonk hopes that when there is nothing else to talk about they will talk about the Nationals? No wonder Angelos behaves as if he still owns the rights to DC. I can only hope that the arbitration process will right the ship a little. And then perhaps he can ask the Washington Post to help pay the bill! April 26, 2012 11:38 AM _______________________________Yep, I don't necessarily agree with DC Wonk. It is Redskins 24/7 and this bandwagon obsession with the Caps is the entree du jour and I don't have a clue about how the Whorioles get more than a blip on the WP radar.Yesterday's paper copy of the Post though did have the Nats front and center on the front of the Sports Page….only problem was that it had a photo that didn't catch my eye as "Nats" and I missed the article 1st time through as I was searching.

  67. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Interesting, VERY positive article in Sports Illustrated about how Rizzo built up the farm system enough to get Gio (among other items.)How the Washington Nationals became baseball's sleeping gianthttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ben_reiter/04/26/washington.nationals/index.html

  68. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a said…people said it didn't mean anything because it was September…Now the Nationals have started the season with a 14-4 run and people say it doesn't..Who exactly are these "people" I want NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS!! The executives thought Star Wars wouldn't do well so they gave George Lucas the rights to all the little toys…that made him a billionaire…If you get upset at what "these people" said yoou'll go insane…the only thing worse is writing posts quoting "these people"..one of my favorite Letterman jokes is when he asked who are the proverbial "They"..and he held up a picture of, and announced the answer as, the Van Patten family. Classic.

  69. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Sec3…..do you know this mystery team that has the same 14-4 record as the Nats? I can't find them listed in the standings.Lessee, the Rangers are 15-4, so if you spell "15" with a 4, that works. I'm still wondering where my post about "what you learn from that" went. Don't recall one. But honestly, I lost interest in that one a long time ago.

  70. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Thanks, NatsLady. Nice find.

  71. Section 3, My PFB Sofa - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Senators/Nationals nickname for the teamWikipedia, FWIW

  72. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:58 PM

    "Who exactly are these "people" I want NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS!! The executives thought Star Wars wouldn't do well so they gave George Lucas the rights to all the little toys…that made him a billionaire…If you get upset at what "these people" said yoou'll go insane…"Sounds like you're already there.

  73. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Navy Nats, re: the bobblehead for my friend. Sorry, I just saw your post, been busy the last couple of days and just now catching up.She is not what I'd call a "friend" as I only met her the day before through work and gave her a ride to the game, haven't heard from her since. I'll leave a voice message for her about the bobblehead.

  74. sm13 - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    I love looking at the N.L. East standings, it warms my heart to see the Fish and Phils at the bottom…..

  75. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    So this seems like the right time to raise a potential cloud, with Detwiler's next start a day away and reports that Wang expected to throw 65 pitches in Potomac on Saturday. I'm a little worried about what happens when he's ready to come back. The Wang and Storen injuries had unanticipated consequences — with Detwiler moving into the rotation and pitching out of this world, and Stammen making the club. This created some really interesting symmetry on our pitching staff — 3 RH and 2 LH starters, as opposed to 4 and 1. And a RH and LH long reliever, who Davey has arranged masterfully to use on days when an opposite handed starter pitches. (For example, Stammen started the 7th after Gio's start the other night, Gorzo pitched the last 3 innings after Znn.) And Detwiler is a 5th power arm in the rotation. (And leads the league in ERA right now.) The symmetry goes away if Wang comes back to the rotation. We'll have four RH starters. Det and Gorzo, both lefties will be in long relief. Stammen is likely to head to 'Cuse. I hope of course that it all works out, and we're about a month away from this situation, anything can happen, blah blah blah. But the pitching staff has been so incredible so far that I kind of hate to see it change.

  76. Frediemac - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    natsfan1a said… LoveDa, I'm definitely loving this ride but I did have a PFB time in 2005, too. That year will always have a special place in my heart, because it's the year I fell in love with my Nats. Maybe this year will have a special place as the year that they loved me back, as in Fever Pitch. :-) April 26, 2012 8:52 AM ——————————————I fell in Love with the Nats in 1969. And yes they were the Nats. Except it was their nickname not their actual name in those days. ;)LETS GO NATS!

  77. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    sm13 said… I love looking at the N.L. East standings, it warms my heart to see the Fish and Phils at the bottom….. April 26, 2012 1:06 PM It sure is nice although the Braves are doing well themselves and the Phillies strung together some nice games even with Cliff Lee on the shelf. The Braves travel back to Atlanta and get the Pirates over the weekend and the Phillies get the Cubs.

  78. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    Ever wonder where Jason Bergmann is playing? Nats Prospects found him:http://nationalsprospects.com/2012/04/ex-nats-in-the-indys-atlantic-league-edition-2/

  79. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM

    I went to some games in '05..they were fun. Cordero was amazing…and Schneider was so popular..he threw out a runner leading off 3rd in Chicago..that was the best…and players who left their cars at RFK on road trips got their cars broken into..TWICE…not a good selling point for bringing in free agents..

  80. TimDz - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    222…With Davey and Rizzo in charge, I have confidence that they will work it out. By the time Wang returns, it wouldnt surprise me if Ross tweaks something and ends up on the DL.This way, Wang makes a few apperances in the rotation (possibly as a showcase) and then gets traded when he is eligible for a trade. I think either Wang or Ejax gets traded by the deadline.Another (albeit less likey…I hope) scenario is that the Nats sell high on Ross (young and under team control for a few more years) and get big bat. I think that would be a mistake unless we could get a Gio-like return in prospects (like we gave Oakland).Either way, it is a good problem to have…

  81. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Ghost Of Steve M. said… sm13 said… I love looking at the N.L. East standings, it warms my heart to see the Fish and Phils at the bottom….. April 26, 2012 1:06 PM It sure is nice although the Braves are doing well themselves and the Phillies strung together some nice games even with Cliff Lee on the shelf. The Braves travel back to Atlanta and get the Pirates over the weekend and the Phillies get the Cubs. April 26, 2012 1:12 PM ___________________________The Nats can only take care of what they can take care of which is beat their current opponents and that's what they are doing. They can't control what happens in the Dodgers/Braves game.Eventually they will have some head-to-head games against ATL and PHI and the Nats will have to win those series.This is how the playoff teams get to the playoffs.

  82. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    Gonat, well said.

  83. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    TimDz – Good thoughts, and I agree it's a good problem to have. I'm skeptical that Wang would bring much in a trade without more successful starts, nor do I think that Rizzo is going to want to give him up for Cutter Dykstra given all the Nats have invested in him. And Det is pitching way too well to stash him on the DL with an imaginary tweak. He seems to have a very high ceiling but probably needs to have a full season of success before he'll bring even half the bounty of prospects that Gio did. So I dont think a trade of either of them is the likely solution. Jackson has too big a salary to trade, and I sure can't see the Nats eating it.It's a tough situation and I'll be fascinated to see how it works out. I just hope it doesn't mess with that great intangible chemistry that the pitching staff seems to have right now.

  84. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    TimDz said… 222…With Davey and Rizzo in charge, I have confidence that they will work it out. By the time Wang returns, it wouldnt surprise me if Ross tweaks something and ends up on the DL.This way, Wang makes a few apperances in the rotation (possibly as a showcase) and then gets traded when he is eligible for a trade. I think either Wang or Ejax gets traded by the deadline.Another (albeit less likey…I hope) scenario is that the Nats sell high on Ross (young and under team control for a few more years) and get big bat. I think that would be a mistake unless we could get a Gio-like return in prospects (like we gave Oakland).Either way, it is a good problem to have… April 26, 2012 1:27 PM TimDz, Detwiler is #1 for starters in ERA in the Majors although he doesn't meet the innings requirement as of today to be in the leaders rankings.I think this time Winning will take precedence over showcasing a player. Why take out the hot hand in Detwiler? Wang may end up in the bullpen and the rotation stays "as is" if everyone keeps pitching well.We are a long way from the trade deadline. Who knows how it ends up, just enjoying the ride.

  85. Diz - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Is anyone shocked by this? From Kilgore on Nats Journal. Did the Team Doctor sleep at a Holiday Inn Express?Zimmerman received a cortisone shot Saturday, the day the Nationals scratched him shortly before a win over the Marlins. Zimmerman felt no relief, though, because the team doctor that administered the shot, “missed the spot,” Johnson said.Must have received their degree from the Baltimore Inner Harbor School of Hairstyling.

  86. sm13 - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    I am on board with Gonat. I'm just enjoying the moment. If we weren't 14-4, it wouldn't be so much fun.

  87. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Anybody else enjoying the fine display of baseball are putting on today?They've scored 4 runs for the road trip. Hanley is 0-15 and Giancarlo is lost at the plate and playing right field on an Adam Dunn level.

  88. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    I left out "the Fish",

  89. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    That will start to smell

  90. Diz - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    I can see the interview with the team doctor going something like this:Kilgore: "So, you injected Zim's shoulder with Cortisone on Saturday?"Team Doc: "Yeah"Kilgore: "Zim says he isn't feeling any better."Team Doc: "Yeah, I accidently put the shot in the wrong shoulder. What are the odds? Ha Ha"Kilgore: "Uh, that would be 50/50."Team Doc: "Yeah, right! Never was really good at math."

  91. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    NJ, thanks for info. I will change games–had the Giants/Reds game on and I don't hate either team. I don't hate the Mets either, so I wouldn't mind them sweeping the Fish.

  92. TimDz - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Ghost…Good points one and all.I agree that trading Det would not be a good thing (was more just lookking at possible options) and, as 222 so accurately said, "Det is pitching way too well to stash him on the DL with an imaginary tweak. He seems to have a very high ceiling but probably needs to have a full season of success before he'll bring even half the bounty of prospects that Gio did."Not so sure about Wang in the bullpen, but who knows? I definately agree with not taking the hot hand out of the rotation.And place me FIRMLY in the "enjoying the ride" camp…It's a PFB time to be a Nats fan (and we have all EARNED this over the past few years)

  93. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Diz–you get Post of the Day from me!!!

  94. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    I might have done so as well, had I lived in the area at that time, which I didn't. :-)Frediemac said… I fell in Love with the Nats in 1969. And yes they were the Nats. Except it was their nickname not their actual name in those days. ;) LETS GO NATS! April 26, 2012 1:09 PM

  95. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Mets game–Sanchez just sent one into the, er, well, I can't describe it as a crowd… OK, into the coffee-klatch of people in the stands. Game tied.

  96. Snivius - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:07 PM

    I was enamored with the Nats from Day 1 based on the "underdog" factor, because MLB tried to kill the franchise for a time. It reminded me of the movie Major League, with the evil owner-ette punished the players with a grueling regimen (ohhh.. like playing "home" games in Puerto Rico) stood to gain from the team going down in flames.Then they became very tough to love, when they stunk, and it seemed the owners were no less malignant than the Margaret Whitten character in the movie.Now I get to love the Nats because they're GOOD, and they no longer have punks on the team.Enjoying this ride while I can!Sniv

  97. JaneB - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Enjoying this ride while I can!SnivSniv, what I learned, coming up in the world as a Mets fan, is that once you fall in love, you fall in love. And you can enjoy the ride anyway (even if you find it so bumpy even bourbon and maalox can't help). You enjoy it, because they are YOUR guys. Of course, I was a two timer on the Mets in 2005, and then switched allegiances altogether soon thereafter, so…GYFNG! (And thanks for these fun links, guys. And Lady.)

  98. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Jason Werth's dream (or nightmare? or near-miss?)Tennessee baseball player breaks own car windshield with game-winning homer

  99. JaneB - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    Ghost if SteveM…Jesse English is playing with Jason Bergmann. Didn't he used to be ours, too? And Ramon Castro sods familiar, too….

  100. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Chiefs won the first game of their double-header in extras. Corey Brown and Jason Michaels homered. Harper 1 for 3 with a walk, now hitting .243. Playing LF he had a throwing error (didn't see it, but they will have archive video for the game).Chiefs vs. Redwings Box Scorehttp://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2012_04_26_syraaa_rocaaa_1

  101. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Maybe peric or Wonk or someone can explain to me how to read this, but I think it says the Nats are favored to win tonight.MLB oddshttp://matchups.nbcsports.msnbc.com/MLB/odds/index.html

  102. Nats1924 - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    k, thanks for the Nationals/Senators feedback.Go Dubya's!!!!!!!

  103. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Everyone has 4 starts except EJax and Det. We all knew that JZim and Stras were going to be studs. We needed to make sure Gio translated well from the "wide" Oakland stadium to Nats Park and NL style baseball. It didn't start well but the last 3 starts have been legendary.EJax's complete game start was one of the best pitched games in Nats history however his 1st and 3rd starts were far from good. Ross Detwiler has put together 16 innings of great baseball in terms of ERA. His 2nd start had 4 unearned runs in that bad ump call at 1st which was ruled a throwing error but he still gave up that Grand Slam and if the official scorer changed that call from error to hit, then Detwiler's ERA would be toast. Depending on how you judge that performance is how you judge Detwiler overall. His start on Friday will be what we need to see.Clearly the Nats have 3 Aces in Stras/Gio/JZim. EJax has been inconsistent. Detwiler has to continue like he did his last start and get some 7 inning games in as he is averaging 5 1/3 innings so far.

  104. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    And the clock is ticking on our rotation, CMW has a rehab start in Potomic on Saturday. After that start, he will need to be on the major league roster within 30 days. I can see they putting the $11M man or CMW in the pen, so that means Ross Detwiler head to the pen as a spot starter until needed. He sure made this hard!

  105. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    I meant to write I "CAN'T" see…

  106. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    on cnnsi.com..rise of the nats..people are saying: the Nats rockhttp://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ben_reiter/04/26/washington.nationals/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t13_a0

  107. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM

    JaneB, I think Jesse English was a reliever for Jim Riggleman to start the season and was sent down quickly.

  108. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    Fundamentals, Mets people. Kearns should have been out, would have been out with a good tag.

  109. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    Ross Detwiler head to the pen as a spot starter until needed. He sure made this hard! 6 man rotation? that keeps strasburg pitching deeper into the season..and if there's an injury they don't miss a beat..but it wouold mean too much wear and tear on the bullpen? perhaps they take away a position player?

  110. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    Davey is NOT going to a 13-man pitching staff, he's been adamant about that. He doesn't even like a 12-man staff.

  111. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    Gonat, good point on Detwiler. 4 more runs over 16 innings pushes his ERA over 2.00 .Big test for him is the Dodgers on Friday.

  112. lls45 - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    sm13, it warms my hear too to see the Marlins at the bottom of the NL East. May they stay there for the rest of the season.

  113. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    OK, Marlins got hosed on that one. Tie goes to the runner, right? Reyes hits into a 3-6-3 DP and the run doesn't score…

  114. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    How does Davey like shelving his Ace on September 1 because he reached his innings limit with the playoffs in front of him?

  115. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Nady Lady -This means the Nats are a slight favorite. For example, you would need to bet $113 to win $100 on a Nats win. Compare that with Tigers/Seatle game, where you would need to bet $185 on the Tigers to win a $100. Hope this explains that.Scott – No way on the 6 man rotation; Rizzo has stated publicly that won't happen.

  116. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Actually, replay shows it wasn't even a tie, Reyes beat the throw. His reaction is priceless, rolling his eyes for at least a minute, but not a word to the ump.Mets announcers criticizing ump and bad decision by the first basemen (to try for double-play rather than throwing home)–even when it benefited their own team.

  117. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    SFB.. The 6 man rotation was shot down numerous times by Rizzo. either yesterday or the day before he specifically said there will be no change in the way Strasburg pitches (no skips, tweeks, whatever) because Stras is a creature of habit and they don't want to mess with him.

  118. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    yeah, but Davey publicly announced lannan was his 5th starter…sometimes people change their minds..and a 6 man rotation is not unprecedented..if Detwiler keeps rolling and Wang does great in his rehab starts they would only have two choices, a trade or a 6 man rotation..you don't take astarter who is pitching great and put him inthe bullpen because you have too many starters…THAT would be unprecedented

  119. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM

    Good link NatsLady on the SI article. Love me some GIO!

  120. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Mets announcers criticizing ump and bad decision by the first basemen (to try for double-play rather than throwing home)–even when it benefited their own team. Now THAT'S good, professional announcing

  121. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Tconstant– Still not totally understanding it. You layout $113, and you get back what, if the Nats win?

  122. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Detwiler is making the most of his Wally Pipp opportunity circa 2012. If he pitches a few more gems, he joins Strasburg, Gio and JZim in a quartet of Aces.EJax needs to right his ship tonight. The pressure is on.Nothing is a given with Wang. If Livo can be a reliever than I suppose maybe Wang can also. First thing is Wang has to rehab well and by the time he is ready to come back, each starter will have 9 to 10 starts to judge them by and the season will be 1/4 completed.

  123. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    SFB.. Det's been in the bullpen and a 6 man rotation would mess with the other pitchers routines, not just Stras, but GIO, JZ, and EJAX as well. They are not going to do that. And LannEn was Davey's 5th Starter until Det beat him out for the job. And as we can see that worked out.

  124. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    You don't lay out $113..everythingis based on $100 wagers…i assume you don't teach math

  125. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    Ghost good point. Wang or EJax can go to the Pen (not that I think they would do that – but it a can be an option).Also, When are Wang and EJax trade bait? After May 31? Not sure we do that since Stras will be shut down

  126. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    Favorite quote from the SI Article:Strasburg agrees that Harper is on the cusp, and will fit in seamlessly. "Harp's a good guy, and in a lot of ways, we're a lot alike," he says, in his rapid monotone. "He's the type of player that wants to go out there and not just beat people, but kick the crap out of them. So do I, absolutely."

  127. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    One thing that is certain is Wang cannot pitch in relief..because of all his surgeries he needs many warm up pitches to get warmed up..he is definitely a guy you keep on routine and hope for the best…that injury he sustained in spring training trying to cover first…look up injury prone and there's a picture of wang

  128. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    "TimDz, Detwiler is #1 for starters in ERA in the Majors although he doesn't meet the innings requirement as of today to be in the leaders rankings."Small sample size. If those four runs Detwiler gave up on the grand slam in the first inning against the Reds had not been scored as unearned runs, his ERA now would be 5.06. And he's the one who put two of those three baserunners on and served up the grand slam ball to Ludwick.

  129. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Dumping Lannan in AAA as a viable ML pitcher making $5mil had to be pretty close to unprecedented. I can't figure this one out, and I'm glad I'm not Rizzo and I'm glad there's a month to figure it out. As far as Stras and his "routine," I pretty much believe that. They didn't bump anyone so Stras could pitch in San Diego or in LA against Kershaw. Also, a 6-man rotation means disturbing not only Stras' routine but that of the other pitchers.It's not only routine, it's morale–once you mess with the rotation–barring injury–you open up a real can of worms. Detwiler pitching well and the team on the roll means however much the team might have resented Lannan getting sent down, they are ok with the result. But I doubt they've forgotten; you have to be fair to people unless there is a clear reason for messing with their heads.

  130. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Everything is based off $100.you win $100; so if in Vegas you purchased a ticket for $113 and if you win it will pay $213 total ($100 win + the return of your orginal bet).In my Tigers example above, you would bet $185 and a winning ticket would pay $285 ($100 win + the return of your orginal bet).If your team losses, your orginial bet is gone, so you could loss $113 in the Nationals example or $185 on a Tigers bet.So the Tigers are a big favorite (you need to lay almost twice as much money to win $100) vs. the Nationals are a slight favorite (you need to lay just a little over $100 to win $100) Clear as mud?

  131. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Scott from Burke, actually, I do have a bachelor's degree in math, and took many graduate courses, and I still don't understand it. Do you bet $100 or $113? And what is your return?

  132. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    the routine is constantly messed with anyway..rain outs, off days, doubleheaders..all star break…no skipped starts, just go with six until one of the peripheral startes (Jax, Det, Wang) messes up 3 or 4 times in a row…or you make a trade

  133. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    Before we get out of hand here on the rotation, take this thought away:How cool is it that we are even DISCUSSING a 6th Starting Pitcher – one that would be a #3/4 on any other staff? Remember just a few short years ago, the Cattle Calls in spring training (I am sure NatsJack suffered watching those craptastic pitchers in Viera) and that a guy who was our OPENING DAY starter, not once, but TWICE is riding buses for Cuse? Seriously, I am giddign with this.

  134. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    For bet $113.If you win you get $213 ($100 win + the return of your orginal bet).If you loss, you get zero and therefore loss $113

  135. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Tconstant. Thanks, got it! Probably too late to bet against the Tigers at this point, though. Looks like they have a chance to get swept by the M's…

  136. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Take $100 from your left pocket and put it in your right pocket..you lose nothing. For more information see Art Schlichter.

  137. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    MicheleS, you put a big smile on my face with that quote. The better pitchers have to be nasty competitive guys on the mound. Stras and JZim have that mentality.

  138. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    I remember reading during the Lannan discussion that Wang had pitched out of the bullpen at some point in his career. Maybe someone can check on that. Gotta work, thanks for info on betting. Seems counterintuitive they way they post it with the negative numbers and basing it on $100 bets, they should just post odds like horseracing…

  139. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

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  140. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Ghost.. I think Gio is that way, too. He just smilles at you when he is carving you up. Did you see how he reacted when he walked two guys the other day? He didn't give up runs, beared down and got out of the inning, but was ticked off that he gave up the walks. He was muttering to himself when he walked off the mound.

  141. TimDz - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    Scott from Burke said… You don't lay out $113..everythingis based on $100 wagers…i assume you don't teach math ____________________Not that NatsLady needs to be defended, but your reply was a bit of overkill and, imho, pretty mean spirited. There are lots of folks that don't understand the betting/wagering system. It doesn't mean they don't understand math.

  142. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    there are only two baseball teams..there are usually 8-12 horses in a race..odds are scattered on all the differenet scenarios (win, place, show) Totally different

  143. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    It WAS mean spirited, you're right…

  144. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    BTW I cannot read a racing form..i get one of those $2 tip sheets and bet (and lose) accordingly

  145. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    Heath Bell blows another save.

  146. Fear and Ignorance - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Anybody that thinks Strasburg is going to get shut down after 160 IP if they are in a pennant race is sorely mistaken. Not going to happen!!! Nobody in the organization has ever mentioned 160 IP limit and I seriously doubt they are going to give up a chance to make the playoffs and even win a World Series because of some mythical concern about an extra 20-30 innings pitched. As long as he looks strong out there on the mound, he will be out there on the mound.

  147. Eugene in Oregon - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Anyone else watching the Marlins self-destruct in NY?

  148. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Fish lose again. Fish go 0 for the road trip.

  149. Eugene in Oregon - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Bell (Marlins closer): Four straight walks, then gave up a game-winning hit to the Neuwenheis. Wonderful.

  150. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Another Heath Bell choke. Was listening on WFAN

  151. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    Rays with a Walkoff also VIA the HR

  152. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Heath Bell 0-3

  153. peric - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    How does Davey like shelving his Ace on September 1 because he reached his innings limit with the playoffs in front of him? Honestly neither nor Stras likes it but both knew well in advance it was going to happen. And Davey planned for it. Its why he wanted Wang back and had the big competition in ST between Wang, Lannan, and Detwiler. It's also why he wanted two long relief/starters stretched out for his use in the bullpen?And given that they could even risk trading Wang or EJax given the way Daniel Rosenbaum is pitching. He's going to be up in Syracuse just like Peacock before too long. He is a Milone-like pitcher … and everyone can now see how valuable he was. You could do worse than making Rosenbaum, a lefty, your #5 starter.The Nats are covered. No, it won't be the same as having Stras in the rotation. But they have plenty of good arms to back him up.

  154. Tcostant - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    I agree that odds such as horse racing would be easier. One major difference between betting baseball and the ponies. In horse racing if you bet a 2:1 horse and the odds change to 5:2 at post time, you get the final odds (5:2 in this case). When betting baseball, you get the odds you bet at the time of the bet, so if the odds changed your still locked in.

  155. peric - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    Anybody that thinks Strasburg is going to get shut down after 160 IP if they are in a pennant race is sorely mistaken. Not going to happen!!! Nobody in the organization has ever mentioned 160 IP limit Its going to happen dude sorry to disappoint you its why the Nats have a fifth, sixth, seventh, and even an eight starter. If you think it isn't you're the one who is out to lunch and not following what Rizzo keeps telling you. There is no innings limit per game. No restriction on an AllStar appearance. But the limit is between 160 and 170 innings just like with JZimmnn.

  156. alm - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Jane B,Me to, longtime Mets fan until 05.I often think about the similarity between Benitez and MPHRod. Control is the key.Grew up in NJ and went against the grain and liked the Mets not Stankies. As a Mets fan in the late 80s and early 90s was part of the invading hord at the Vet.Enjoyed the Mets RFK pre-season games in that late 80s era, remember one where Sid was on the mound and it snowed and they called the game after 4 1/2.GO NATS

  157. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Just like there won't be a 6 man rotation, count on it, Strasburg gets shut down at 160 innings.

  158. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    F&I, somewhere on the interwebs there is a link (check WaPO with the Sports Bog) to a radio intervew given in the last week by Rizzo. Without going all bold on you, Rizzo says Stras is not on a pitch limit, but there is an innings limit (no number given) and when Rizzo thinks he will be shut down, Stras will be shut down. He goes into more on it, but you get the jist.

  159. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    MicheleS, when the Nats were looking at trading for Gio, Rizzo remarked how he had a competitive temper. I haven't seen it yet but I'm sure its there.JZim's other nickname is the Silent Assassin and it fits him perfectly.

  160. Fear and Ignorance - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Peric-There has never been an innings limit (per Mike Rizzo) and if you honestly think they are going to shut him down with 2 weeks left in the season if he is still throwing bullets…you are crazy!!! He won't pitch 230 innings, but 190 or so is well within range considering he is on cruise control in 75% of those innings. That would be 32 starts at 6 innings/start.

  161. Scooter - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    This is totally a side point, probably not worth mentioning. But if all Detwiler's runs were earned, his ERA would be 2.81 — not 5.XX, and certainly not "toast." Worse than it is now, yes, but still darn good.The point was worth bringing up, though, Gonat. Especially this early, a few unearned runs can really skew things.

  162. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    NJ.. love watching the Fish lose! Swept by the Mets? Really?? That rotting smell in Miami is going to be really strong!!!!

  163. Fear and Ignorance - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:23 PM

    Michele-That was my point. Rizzo has not given an IP limit and probably has yet to determine what that would even be at this point. He flatly stated that 160 innings was purely a media creation.

  164. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    F&I, here is the linkRizzo on Stras

  165. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:27 PM

    F&I.. yes, but Rizzo says, We will shut him down just like they did with Jordan. He is not going to put that arm in any jeapardy. Plus Boras would kill him if he did.

  166. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… Just like there won't be a 6 man rotation, count on it, Strasburg gets shut down at 160 innings. April 26, 2012 4:11 PM _______________________________Rizzo did an interview yesterday and said there will NOT be a 6 man rotation when Wang is available.He back-tracked slightly on the 160 inning limit to say they will judge number of pitches as well and the type of outings he has as he approaches the 160 inning limit where it will be around 160 innings give or take.Maybe he ends up at 168 innings or maybe 158 innings or maybe exactly 160. He clearly said he will be shutdown before the post-season.Rizzo said there is a bigger picture here which is the future of a young pitcher and he isn't going to jeopardize his future.Lets face it, this will only change if the Nats need him for the September push however I don't see it going much past 160.

  167. Eugene in Oregon - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Last year's "media creation' had Zimmermann at a 160-inning limit. If I recall correctly, he ended up pitching 160 and 1/3. Coincidence? I think not.

  168. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Brandon Inge released by the Tigers.

  169. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    While the # 160 is, according to Rizzo, is a media invention, all one has to do is determine the most # of innings ever pitched in one season for Stras then add 20%, his limit will be that or 160 plus or minus, whichever is greater.

  170. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Interesting. “We’re going to control his innings at the end, and when I feel he’s had enough innings, we’re gonna shut him down. So there’s no limit per game for Davey, there’s no innings limit per game for Davey. We’re gonna treat him like a normal, young 23-year old starter. And when I feel he’s had enough innings and enough pitches thrown, then I’m gonna pull the plug on him and we’re gonna rest him, like we did with Jordan Zimmermann.”

  171. couch potato - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    I think that while 3b Zimmerman (one-n) is out, we can fill in for him by using Zimmermann (two-n's) at 3b on days he is not pitching. He really came through in the clutch yesterday!For an answer to the question of whether the team was called the Senators or the Nationals before they moved to Minnesota, Baseball-Reference says "The Senators were officialy the Washington Nationals from 1905-1955, but the fans never recognized them as such."

  172. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    a Nats Article in the New Yorker. Slightly Snarky, but gives the interesting history.Seriously, Clark Griffin, what a terd. Bob Short, not much better.New Yorker Article

  173. Sunderland - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Today, Rizzo is saying 160 innings is a media creation. I think the media thinks otherwise. Plenty of media outlets, including Mark Z and others, were there on Feb 20 when Rizzo spoke about shutting Strasburg down at 160 innings."VIERA, Fla. — If there were still any lingering questions about the Nationals' plan for Stephen Strasburg in his first full year back from Tommy John surgery, general manager Mike Rizzo put those to rest this morning.Rizzo made it clear the club will not deviate from its original plan to have Strasburg open the season on schedule, pitch every fifth day and then be shut down once he reaches his limit of roughly 160 innings."There's not going to be a whole lot of tinkering going on," Rizzo said. "We're going to run him out there until his innings are done, and then stop him from pitching."Full Linkhttp://www.natsinsider.com/2012/02/rizzo-no-tweaks-to-strasburgs-schedule.html

  174. Sunderland - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    NatsJack, the most Strasburg has ever pitched is 123 innings. Plus 20% = 148 innings. I agree that the target is in the range of 148 to 160.

  175. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    The whole innings limit is based on age and progressive build up of innings. A 19 year old signee may pitch 100 – 120 innings his first year then 120 – 140 the next, then 160 his third. Go back and look at Matt Moore for the Rays who are the best at progressionaly developing starters and you'll see a perfect example.Once a pitcher gets to the 180 – 200 mark the or age 25 the restrictions disappear. (see Jordan Zimmermann)

  176. natsfan1a - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Some good points on fact-checking fails are made in the comments section of the New Yorker article. (No, it wasn't me. :-))

  177. Ghost Of Steve M. - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    It is the media that keeps mentioning 160 innings and Mike Rizzo generally gives the same answer. It's like "asked and answered" and the Kilgore interview opened the door to where it appeared that it is on Rizzo based on "When I feel he's had enough innings, we're going to shut him down".

  178. sjm308 - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    I think this wealth of starting pitching will continue to pay dividends throughout the season but more toward the end. Peric, Michelle & NatsJack are all on the same page here that SS will not be pitching meaningful innings in Oct. BUT, Gio, Jordan, Edwin, Ross and Chien Ming WILL which is why this team was built for not just 2013 but this year as well. I remember when the Rays brought up David Price and there was all kinds of clammering for him to start but they stayed with the plan and threw him out of the pen for his first two years and now look at him. It won't kill Ross to go back to the pen for a couple of months. SS will get shut down and Ross will come back into the rotation.It won't be Jackson or Wang in the pen, neither is suited but Ross is young, has done it before and will hopefully go with the right attitude.NatsJack, I had promised not to lump you with Peric but now that everyone has a name, you have to agree that you both are basically saying the same thing about SS and his innings limit and also the 6 man rotation. Maybe great minds do think alike??Go Nats!!

  179. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    Yes, and the problem is not shutting Stras down for the last week of the season or not. Stras gets shut down at approx the beginning of Sept. That means he is shut down for a month before playoffs start–he would have to go through an entire program like spring training again, and "rehab starts" — where? The minor-league season is over at that point. Stras gets shut down end of Aug-early Sept and he stays shut down. We don't know the exact number of innings, but I say 162 at least so he qualifies for awards.

  180. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    1A.. Totally thought the same thing on the Gibson/Bell/Leonard. What a dope, not knowing the history, home opener at Chicago, etc.

  181. sjm308 - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    MichelleS: Since I started rooting in the late 40's, my level of bad thoughts for the Griffith's is much higher then that of Mr. Short but I believe that Bob Short was a much nastier person and never ever thought about keeping this club in DC. At least Clark had his father's legacy to consider and did try to work with the DC gov't. before leaving. Losing both teams absolutely crushed me but the original team was far worse. We might have been sorry but they were my hero's growing up and you could actually see that there was a pretty good club being built. That proved to be true in Minnesota. Now, its our turn!!!Go Nats!!

  182. JD - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    NatsJack,'while the # 160 is, according to Rizzo, is a media invention, all one has to do is determine the most # of innings ever pitched in one season for Stras then add 20%, his limit will be that or 160 plus or minus, whichever is greater.' That's exactly right. You mess with a young pitcher and you end up with Mark Fydrich, Frank Tannana, Bobby Witt etc. No one in the industry does this any more.

  183. sm13 - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    I'm with Rizzo on the innings/pitches/or whatever limit on Stras. If we were an aging team like the Phil's or a lucky team like the Padres 2 years ago then you go for broke. But, we're neither. Were a team whose playoff window is just opening. Treat Stras with an abundance of caution and we'll all get a chance to share his Cy Youngs and World Series rings. Abuse him and risk losing him to injury..It's not a sure thing, but it is the right thing.

  184. FS=Faraz Shaikh - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    sm13, you mean Giants?anyways, intend to stay awake and 'watch' the game here.

  185. NatsJack in Florida - Apr 26, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Peric and I agree on alot of stuff. I'm a sycophant snd he's a self proclaimed genius.

  186. alexva - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    NatsLady "I say 162 at least so he qualifies for awards" – winner winner chicken dinner!They tried to get JZimm to this number last year but he faltered in his last start. They weren't going to start him another game.

  187. sjm308 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    The more you look at what Rizzo has done, the more you are impressed. The pitching depth at all levels is solid even with trading 3 excellent prospects. We have not even seen Purke yet and I think there is another stud down in Fla. although his name escapes me right now. The other thing that has been accomplished, although it is not showing yet is that we will start to see position players in the near future. We had the great catching depth but when you look at Marrero, Moore, Rendon, Skole, Taylor, Goodwin etc etc you have to be even more excited. I left off Perez and probably another 3 or 4 but its a nice situation to have.

  188. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:01 PM

    @MicheleS: Thanks for the New Yorker link. I just fell in love with this line of the Nats in first place: "This is a novel and fragile situation."Perfect!Plus, the Bob Short line was great.

  189. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    Honestly, I am getting SO tired of outside commentators (I mean non-Nats fans), so called baseball "experts," butting into Rizzo's business with Stras' shutdown, 6-man rotation, etc. etc., and then we rehash it over and over again in here. You would think after they had to eat crow about Detwiler/Lannan and the Gio trade (I know both are still playing out but I have seen plenty of commentary "crow" on both subjects)– you would think they would just shut up and let Rizzo and Davey go about their business. But how would they earn a living??????

  190. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    alexava, we discussed this last year and concluded that because the Nats only played 161 games last year JZ could have qualified. No one was completely sure because we got into "what does 'scheduled' mean–y'know, like Clinton and "IS."

  191. JD - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    NatsJack, When I said no one does this anymore I misspoke: Seattle – Felix Hernandez – 190 innings at the age of 20 and has been increasing since (now 26) – I worry about him. Seattle – Michael Pineda 139 innings at the age of 21 and then 171 innings at the age of 22 – out for the year with a shoulder injury.

  192. Scott from Burke - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    Mark Fidrych stepped in a hole shagging fliesThat's exactly right. You mess with a young pitcher and you end up with Mark Fydrich…

  193. sm13 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    FS – I did mean the Padres, specifically scrapping their plan to limit Matt Latos. They rode him all through September and lost the division on the last day. Latos paid for that abuse last year. The jury is out on whether he can bounce back this year. And, Latos was not coming off TJ surgery.

  194. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Question: Has any of the New STH's gotten their Red Carpet Rewards Card? I seriously need mine for the discount at the team store (when it re-opens). I need a Gio shirsey, and ALR shirsey, and i am sure i can find a ton of other stuff to buy.

  195. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    I agree there won't be a 6 man rotation and Stras will be shut down somewhere around 160 innings. That seems pretty clear from everything Rizzo has said so far. So come early September, there will be a spot for Detwiler or Lannan or Gorzalanny or Stammen or Rosenbaum or whoever it makes most sense to slot into the rotation at that point.The question remains, what do you do with Detwiler when Wang returns, assuming all the other starters stay healthy, and who do you send down to make room for Wang on the 25 man? Rizzo hasn't said anything about it and I'm interested in what some of the folks here think the answer should be, especially those who are so quick to answer questions by simply quoting what Rizzo or Davey have said or suggested Here's my suggestion, which is not a prediction since I have no idea what they will do, and besides, an injury might upend everything — (1) Send Mattheus down. Stammen has really shown outstanding stuff and has versatility to pitch more than one inning, which is a good thing to have. (2) Put Detwiler in the pen, but try to keep him stretched out and fresh, and motivated by finding a spot start for him every 10 days or so — may in place of someone who's showing signs of wear or has a nagging injury that doesn't require a DL stint, or give everyone an extra day's rest during a long stretch of consecutive games. I guess you could call that a 5.5 man rotation but the point is to give Detwiler some regular starting work as well as LOOGY and one inning work when needed.

  196. Fear and Ignorance - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    First of all, 20 extra innings is hardly abusing a pitcher when no evidence whatsoever exists that these extra innings will increase the chances for an injury. Roger Clemens went from 98 IP as a 22 year old to 254 IP as a 23 year old. I just don't think 180-190 IP is out of the realm of possibility. We can all agree to disagree. I predict he will be pitching through the end of September. Anybody care to start a pool??? Put me down for 188 IP!!!

  197. Sunderland - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Wow NatsLady,I'm surprised you're not letting this one go. J Zimm did not qualify last year. The season was scheduled at 162 games. He pitched less than 162 innings. Open and shut.Rule 10.22(b) Comment: For example, if a Major League schedules 162 games for each club, 162innings qualify a pitcher for a pitching championship. A pitcher with 161⅔ innings would not qualify.

  198. A DC Wonk - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    I seriously doubt they are going to give up a chance to make the playoffs and even win a World Series because of some mythical concern….Well I suppose that's the difference between immaturity (I want it now!) and maturity.So, here's the choice:1. Use Stras all season and into October, in the hope of winning the big enchilada, but increasing the odds that he'll blow out his arm again and have short career2. Cut Stras off at approx 160 IP or so, no matter what, so as to increase the odds that he has a long career here, along with all the other young pitchers, young players, and a developing Bryce Harper, to try to build a dynasty here.I'm glad mature-minded folk are in charge of making that decision.

  199. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    I have not gotten my card, but take your opening day ticket. They can use that to the bar code and you will get your discount. Takes a bit longer but they will do it for you. Same for tickets at the box office.

  200. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Natslady — We did discuss it last year and I think you suggested that Rizzo was a genius in cancelling that Dodgers game because it allowwed Znn to qualify. But the rule is clear — 162 innings is the minimum becuase that's how many games are scheduled at the beginning of the year.

  201. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    Thanks NatsLady! I will do that when I go to the games next week. Hopefully the big store will be open.

  202. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    MichelleS — I called my STH rep about the RCR Card and a few days later I got an email saying I could pick my card at ticket services. Have you asked your rep about it?

  203. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… Peric and I agree on alot of stuff. I'm a sycophant snd he's a self proclaimed genius. April 26, 2012 4:59 PM ____________________________NatsJack, if you were a true sycophant, shouldn't you have kissed up to me in Spring Training? ;-) Seriously though, I would expect you and Peric to be on the same page occassionaly. Until this week, I didn't even know who Peric was on here. I think I have agreed with him once so far.

  204. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    222.. Thanks, I called and got the "It will be going out soon" answer. Hmm.. will try again and see what they say.

  205. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:28 PM

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  206. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Incidentally, I thought they should have let Znn pitch an inning in relief in September in order to qualify for the leaderboards. Would that have ruined his career? But I guess they are really serious about shutting those recovering TJ guys down.

  207. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    Well, I don't recall saying Rizzo was a genius for cancelling and NOT RESCHEDULING the game. The weather and the travel did that.There were, in the end, only 161 scheduled games. However, it was felt that if JZ were close to winning an award and the Nats had played all their originally scheduled games that JZ would pitch an inning out of the bullpen. That was not my suggestion, my idea was to shoot that down by saying it was unnecessary because of the above. I still think the rule is somewhat ambiguous, but also that if Stras is anywhere close to 160 innings, they will make sure he pitches 162.It was observed at the time that fangraphs considered him "qualified" and Baseball Reference didn't (or vice-versa), further adding to the "confusion."I doubt it matters unless it is an issue for arbitraion. I'm done now on this subject.

  208. Gonat - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    Bryce Harper back up to .250 and his 3rd RBI of the season which came w/ a single with RISP. Tyler Moore played LF in the 2nd game of the doubleheader.

  209. natscan reduxit - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    "Yes, we're entering uncharted waters here, folks. "… for fans, these uncharted waters are a toss-up between a daily dream come true, and a blood pressure raising adventure into God knows what…. but for the ink-stained wretches presented with an opportunity of a lifetime, that of recording for posterity something which has never gone before, these times must be the most exciting and terrorizing of whole careers. I'm just glad we have Mark Z allowing us to tag along.Go Mark! Go Nats!!

  210. FS=Faraz Shaikh - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    Roger Clemens example? wasn't the guy a user?anyways, read the NewYorker article and comments section. Apparently the guy got lot of stuff wrong.read SI article too.

  211. Fear and Ignorance - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    DC Wonk-Who said 25 extra innings increases his chance for injury??? I have not heard that from anybody in the medical profession. If that can be proved, then fine, shut him down. Simply having a gut feeling he will get injured if he goes beyond some innings limit is beyond subjective and not a good enough reason to jeopardize a chance for a championship, if indeed that is looking possible come September. I would hardly call that immaturity. Saying I want to run him out there for 230 IP would be immaturity, not 185!!!

  212. ExposedinDC - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Any Ryan Z updates ? Sorry if it has been discussed , to lazy to scroll thru the comments

  213. UnkyD - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    F&I: put me down for 165…. All I wasn't out of it is:"Gee, I guess I sounded like quite an idiot, back on April 26th…hyuh hyuh…)

  214. 417b620e-8e2f-11e1-b06f-000bcdca4d7a - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    "This is totally a side point, probably not worth mentioning. But if all Detwiler's runs were earned, his ERA would be 2.81 — not 5.XX, and certainly not "toast." Worse than it is now, yes, but still darn good."My bad. I read Detwiler's stat line on baseball-reference.com wrong. Pulled a 5 out of the Runs column and thought it was the Earned Runs column. I think my method on the calculation was right, though, which in my 8th grade Algebra I class would have qualified me for partial credit.

  215. MicheleS - Apr 26, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    ExposedinDC.. no updates yet, I think those will come out closer to game time when Ryan has to take some BP to see if he can hit.

  216. JD - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Fear, You are right that the number is arbitrary but there is a mountain of evidence that suggests that overusing a young pitcher increases the likelihood of a short career. Since there is no hard evidence of what the real number is (its different for different pitchers) it's prudent to establish an arbitrary number (20% over the previous high and 160 sounds pretty good to me) and stick with it.

  217. ExposedinDC - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    MicheleS…Thanks. Keeping my fingers crossed that the face of our franchise is back in the lineup soon.

  218. Sunderland - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Prior to his surgery, the most Jordan Zimmermann had ever pitched was 134 innings. Post surgery, they let him go about 161+. This was a 20% increase.The most Strasburg has ever thrown prior to surgery was 123 innings. You figure it out.

  219. sm13 - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    Just saw the Marlins-Mets highights. The Marlins are playing sloppy, lazy-looking baseball. I'm not sure that the whole Ozzie thing is working.

  220. NatsLady - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Saw a funny line on Twitter re: the original topic of this post."Glad Nats had blowout tonight and left me enough fingernails for Caps overtime."

  221. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Since there are several hours to kill before the game, I'm reposting this, on the assumption that comment 198 out of the first 200 comments will never be read. Time to play GM with our over abundance of great starters:The question remains, what do you do with Detwiler when Wang returns, assuming all the other starters stay healthy, and who do you send down to make room for Wang on the 25 man? Rizzo hasn't said anything about it and I'm interested in what some of the folks here think the answer should be, especially those who are so quick to answer questions by simply quoting what Rizzo or Davey have said or suggested. Here's my suggestion, which is not a prediction since I have no idea what they will do, and besides, an injury might upend everything — (1) Send Mattheus down. Stammen has really shown outstanding stuff and has versatility to pitch more than one inning, which is a good thing to have. (2) Put Detwiler in the pen, but try to keep him stretched out, fresh, and motivated by finding a spot start for him every 10 days or so — maybe in place of someone who's showing signs of wear or has a nagging injury that doesn't require a DL stint, or give everyone an extra day's rest during a long stretch of consecutive games. I guess you could call that a 5.5 man rotation but the point is to give Detwiler some regular starting work as well as LOOGY and one inning work when needed.

  222. Section 222 - Apr 26, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    lesatcsc said… [In 2011] No team in MLB had 5 SPs with 30 or more starts. (Tex came closest with 4 at 30 + and 1 at 29)2 Teams had 4 SPs with 30 + (Det was the other, their 5th starter had 19)8 teams had 3 SPs with 30 + starts. The rest had 2 or 1 (Nats for eg)So, in no case did a team start 5 guys 30 times each , and only 1/3 of teams managed to get 30 + starts out of as many as 3 SPs…. Take what you will from this. While I think you're right, having 5 guys that can all start 30+ games is ideal, in practice not one of the thirty teams managed it. When I looked at most teams there was a significant drop off in starts between the 3rd SP and the 4th SP and a huge drop between 3rd and 5th. December 21, 2011 6:56 pmSomething to keep in mind when thinking about trading away a starting pitcher…

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