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Game 34: Nats at Reds

May 13, 2012, 4:00 PM EDT

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The depleted Nationals go for the sweep today at Great American Ball Park.

For a team enjoying more success right now than it has at any other point since arriving in town seven years ago, the Nationals are also dealing with as much crushing injury news as they've ever experienced. The latest shock, of course, was this morning's revelation that Wilson Ramos will miss most, if not all, of the rest of the season with a torn ACL in his right knee.

Thus, the spotlight now shines brightly on Jesus Flores, the Nationals' one-time, long-term answer behind the plate who will again be asked to take on starting responsibilities. His backup, for now, will be 23-year-old Sandy Leon, promoted all the way from Class AA Harrisburg.

And yet through all of this, the Nationals continue to win. Today, they'll be seeking a series sweep at Great American Ball Park and a continued hold on first place in the NL East. They'll send Edwin Jackson to the mound, and hope their reconfigured lineup can provide the necessary run support.

As you know, I'm not in Cincinnati and have been spending the weekend with family. On that note, a very happy Mother's Day to everyone out there, especially the one and only Rachel Zuckerman, who is celebrating her very first one as a Mom! Enjoy the game and the conversation…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at CINCINNATI REDS
Where: Great American Ball Park
Gametime: 1:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, Ch. 50, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 183
Weather: Rain, 60 degrees, Wind 7 mph in from LF

NATIONALS (21-12)
SS Ian Desmond
LF Roger Bernadina
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche

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378 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. JZimm's only fan... - May 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Really terrible news about Wilson, lets sweep these guys for him

  2. Drew - May 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there in NI land. Thanks for all that you do.Today's splash of cold water: In 2011 Adam Dunn was so horrific that he hit .159 with a .292 on base percentage.The "lead off hitter" has an on base percentage of .285,To the next question: Who do we have that would be better? the answer is almost anyone. Of the eight Nats hitters in last night's starting lineup, only one — Rick Ankiel — had a worse on base percentage than Ian.They need base runners in front of Zim, LaRoche and in front of Ian. Move Desmond down!GYF(hobbled)NG!

  3. UnkyD - May 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Funny thing….. Where's JayB? This bench was gonna be the death of us… has any team been as bench-dependent as this one? 21-12…. Jes' Sayin'…….

  4. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    Wishing Wilson a full recovery. Wishing Mrs. Z and other moms a wonderful Mother's Day.Wishing the Nats a good game and another curly w in the books. Go, Edwin! Go, NATS!!Bonus comment: Did my ears deceive me last night, or was Frazier using "Come Fly With Me" as his walk-up music? Interesting choice, if so. (Don't get me wrong, I like the song, especially when performed by Old Blue Eyes. I also liked exclaiming "down goes Frazier" after he faced H-Rod.)

  5. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    (Bonus bonus comment: Not sure who the artist was in that particular rendition.)

  6. UnkyD - May 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Part of me wants The Kid batting 3rd, protected by Zim and ALR, and the other part thinks he's learning more seeing less desirable pitches… Which part is right?Happy Mothers Day!!! And heal fast and well, Moose!

  7. A DC Wonk - May 13, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    From last thread:Peric suggested:Rosenbaum's best outcome is to get a September call-up this year and really impress when he gets to the majors. But . . . does that work if the Nats are in the middle of a wildcard race? (Which I think is likely)

  8. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Driving around doing errands this morning – guess what song popped on the radio?AHA, Take on ME! I belted it out at the top of my lungs (I am sure the people who were driving around me really appreciated that).I am taking that as a sign that BEAST MODE will be back soon and raking.GYFNG!!! (and rain rain go away).Get will soon Wilson!!!

  9. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    Thanks, NatsLady. Tuned in after the expected start time to find Baseball Tonight and no info on the rain delay. Figured that was what it was.

  10. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Speaking of mothers, sweet piece by Kilgore on Leon informing his mom of the promotion.

  11. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Snippet from the piece below. Evidently LeCroy is still in the business of making grown men cry. ;-)"Leon, also Venezuelan, received a call from a Harrisburg official at midnight requesting he report back to the park in Akron as fast as he could. He had not heard about Ramos’s injury and assumed he had been chosen for a random drug test. When he showed up, Manager Matt LeCroy informed him he would become a big leaguer. Leon started crying."

  12. c715e5d6-9d22-11e1-a89a-000f20980440 - May 13, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Does anyone know when Jayson Werth will be back with the team? Seems as if Bam-Bam might be missing his mentor's guidance.Checking out the Cincinnati weather radar–that looks nasty. And that may be what's coming to DC early this week.

  13. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Hmm, it was Francis Albert:Old Blue EyesReds rookie third baseman Todd Frazier is the only player in the majors whose walk-up music alternates between a pair of Frank Sinatra classics: "Fly Me to the Moon" and "Come Fly with Me."http://news-herald.com/articles/2012/05/06/sports/nh5450780.txt?viewmode=4

  14. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    fwiw, other injured guys (e.g., Morse, Storen) have been spotted in the dugout at home games.

  15. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Not to mention DeRosa! OK to be in the dugout, but careful with those high-fives.

  16. DCGuy7 - May 13, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    first, sucks for Wilson. we'll miss him. second, anyon know a projected start time for the game? can't find one.

  17. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    I just pulled up the hour by hour forecast fot Cincy and doesn't look good

  18. Theophilus T. S. - May 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Guess nobody uses Mary Chapin Carpenter, "Sometimes you're the bat, sometimes you're the ball.

  19. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Okay, that makes sense. He's a Jersey guy, and Sinatra is Old School. (In fact, I was made a similar comment to my husband before I read this piece.) :-)

  20. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    (Why am I typing in lolcat speak? 😀 I made a similar comment.)

  21. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    According to Reds PR, no decision has been made on today’s starting time. The umpires and teams will reconvene at 3:00 p.m. ET.Sandy Leon first guy to go from AA to the majors since Bernadina in 2008.

  22. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Thanks, NatsLady.

  23. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    if the game does get postponed today, then what? how will we make it up?

  24. Eugene in Oregon - May 13, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Three unrelated questions for a rain delay:(1) I can understand why Wilson Ramos was initially put on the 15-day DL until they figured out what his prognosis was. But why are Drew Storen and Jayson Werth on the 15-day DL and not the 60-day? From the time of their surgeries, both were expected to be out longer than 60 days. I know other teams also sometimes put players on the 15-day instead of the 60-day, even though the players' injuries would clearly require two-plus months of recovery/rehab. Is there a business/rules reason for not using the 60-day? Does it have something to do with when the player can start formal or informal rehab work? Or are they just hoping against hope that a miracle will occur and the player will be ready sooner than expected?(2) Any update on the TV contract arbitration process? I know the Nats and MASN were unable to reach an agreement and the issue was sent to arbitration, but I haven't heard anything since. Any new developments?(3) Finally, a hypothetical rules question. Watching the end of the Cardinals-Braves game the other night, the Cards had the bases loaded in the bottom of the 11th with one out. The batter hit a grounder to the SS. The runner on second hesitated just a moment — perhaps to try to distract the SS? — but then hopped over the batted ball and proceeded toward third base. The SS nevertheless fielded the ball cleanly, then initiated an inning-ending double play. I know that if the runner had been hit by the ball accidentally, he would have been out. I think that the play would then have been called 'dead' and the runner on third would not have been allowed to score. I think that the runner on first would have advanced to second and the batter would have then occupied first. That would have been an obviously better outcome for the Cardinals, giving them another chance to score the winning run. Assuming that's correct, my question is: If the runner on second had simply allowed himself be hit by the batted ball — obviously, with no question that it was intentional — would the umpires have had any option to award the Braves two outs? I think not (based largely on the fact that a scorer can't assume a double play), but it wouldn't seem fair to allow the runner to let himself by hit and thus prolong the inning. Anyone know if there's a rule to address that situation?

  25. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 13, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    natsfan1a said…Evidently LeCroy is still in the business of making grown men cry.1a es en fuego.

  26. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    It would be challenging, as we don't face them again this season.

  27. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:25 PM

    (That would be the make-up game, challenging.)(Thanks, Scooter. :-))

  28. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 13, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    Mr. Eugene, it's my understanding that a team may not put a guy on the 60-day until it actually needs the space. So it's a rule, not a preference. I don't know why the rule exists, but I suspect it's a union thing.As to #3, there's a big difference between scorers and umpires, but I don't know the rule in question by heart.

  29. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Continuing on the scheduling front, they'd need to find a common off-day first. Nats are playing at home tomorrow night, and Reds are scheduled to be at the Braves.

  30. mick - May 13, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Happy Mother Day to all you Mom's, just return from brunch with wife and kids and I see there is a R-Delay. Is game still on? I feel awful for Wilson

  31. mick - May 13, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Thanks Nats lady, i just read your post

  32. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    scott diamond of twins just dodged a bullet, line drive hit his shoulder.

  33. carolync - May 13, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Last year we only played 161 games. One with the Dodgers was cancelled because a rain-out couldn't be made up. I'm afraid that might be the case here. Doesn't look like the rain is going to let up until after 5. It's a light rain. I sure hope they don't try to play in it.

  34. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    I don't Tweeter, but here's something from Comak for those who do:Amanda Comak ‏ @acomakFor those interested RT @marfamata: Thanks #nats fans for your tweets & support for Wilson. You can also write him, his twitter is @WRamosC3

  35. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    The Nats and Dodgers weren't potentially in the postseason mix last year. Had they been, it would have been made up.

  36. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Kilgore tweeted that September 13 is a mutual day off for both teams

  37. NatsNut - May 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM

    (raising hand) I do. I have such illusions. Flores is up to it. Theophilus T. S. said..Flores is a big league catcher, but I don't think anybody has any illusions about his ability to start 110 of the next 129 games.

  38. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Yes. They would hunt around for an off-day or a travel day when both teams are in the neighborhood to do a make-up game if necessary. Davey wants to get the game in, he said so on the radio–he doesn't need a rain out to skip any of his starters: "I like them all."Plus we will very likely have a rain out or long delay tomorrow because guess where that weather is headed.

  39. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    There won't be a decision on the game until at least 4 p.m., Reds announce. –Per Kilgore

  40. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:06 PM

    Thanks for the updates, MicheleS and NatsLady.That's me standing next to NatsNut with my hand raised, btw. :-)

  41. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 13, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    I wondered why NatsNut had a burning chick with her.

  42. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    That bicycle thing must be over by now, so I figure I can get to Virginia. Heading to the gym. Later, folks.

  43. NatsNut - May 13, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    knowing you, Scooter, that was probably hilarious, but huh?

  44. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    I didn't get it either, but now I don't feel so dumb. :-)

  45. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Oh, wait (pages through Spanish-English dictionary), en fuego.

  46. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    Because of the joke and all. lol.

  47. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:15 PM

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  48. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    I wouldn't mind if they made it up on 9/13 because we're usually in Ohio that time of year and have not yet visited that park. Road trip!

  49. sjb - May 13, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    @MicheleS–if the makeup is scheduled for 9/13, the Nats will have to make a one-day trip to Cincy in the middle of a home stand (in between series with the Mets and Braves). I'm sure they'd rather play tonite if they had to; unfortunately it isn't their decision (Reds have a game at Pittsburgh on the 12th and start a home stand on the 14th.

  50. NatsNut - May 13, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    oh. burning chick = en fuego 1a. got it. yea, not that hilarious. 😉

  51. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    lol, NatsNut.sjb, good find re. the homestand. That said, I think MicheleS was just reporting what AK said, not advocating for a particular date, and mine was more in the wishful thinking category. Wait, do the MLB scheduling suits read here, too? Hi, MLB suits! (waves)

  52. Navy Nats Fan - May 13, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Except it's NOT a homestand – Nats are at Mets through 9/12 then go to Atlanta for 9/14 against Braves. Otherwise there would be a baseball game being played with The Boss playing his songs as walkup music. Which would actually be pretty cool.

  53. dabassguy1 - May 13, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    Looking at the radar, it might clear if they wait a little longer to play.GYFNG!!

  54. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Heath Bell earning his salary again–NOT. Whatever Ozzie said to Zembrano, it didn't work for Bell.

  55. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    4:45 start. WOW!

  56. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 8:12 PM

    I saw that, too, NatsLady. Not too good. Plus, I can't decide who I want to lose that one. I guess the Mets, from a standings standpoint.dabassguy, a few minutes ago they broke in on MASN with a Carpenter update, and he said things were looking up from a weather standpoint, as far as getting the game in.

  57. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Oh, thanks, FS.

  58. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    Colbert pitched well. Grrrrrrrrr. Bonifacio with a leadoff triple. Fish haven't lost yet. What is with these bullpens???

  59. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    I just watched BJ Upton break in on a ball hit to the wall and he couldn't get back in time. Situation was 2 men on with 2 outs in a 7-4 game. Result is 7-6 and the inning continues.

  60. Navy Nats Fan - May 13, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    MicheleS and sjb – except it's not a homestand – they're at NYMets on 9/12 and then they fly to Atlanta for the Braves on 9/14. Because if they were at home on 9/14 there would be a baseball game with The Boss playing all the walkup music live. Which would actually be pretty cool.

  61. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    Now I know why BJ Upton looked so unhappy. At that point he was 0-4 with 4 strikeouts.

  62. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    work fast, throw strikes, avoid bog innings. Try for a 2.5 hour game. 4:45…

  63. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    4:45? No bodyjam class for me. Have to stay on the elliptical and stationary bike. C'mon, Cards, Mamas don't let your boys grow up to be swept.

  64. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    also big innings, avoid big innings and don't step in the bog…

  65. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    Giancarlo Stanton with a Walkoff Grand Slam

  66. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    NatsNut, next time I have a joke I'll whisper it to you first, so you can tell me if it's funny enough. kthxbai

  67. NatsLady - May 13, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    Jeez, walk and HBP. Shades of the Mets. Grand slam for Giancarlo. 6 runs in the bottom of the ninth for the Fish.

  68. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 13, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Ha ha, bog innings. That was funny. (Pending NatsNut's approval.)

  69. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    wait, what? I was just sitting here…

  70. NatsNut - May 13, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    okay, THAT was funny.

  71. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    no probs, 1a.stanton walk-off grand slam

  72. natsfan1a - May 13, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    Hmm, somebody woke up the Fish.It's not you, whatsa. That related to an earlier exchange. Bog innings is good. :-)

  73. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    game has started.

  74. sm13 - May 13, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Roger trying show JZimm how to tag up?

  75. sm13 - May 13, 2012 at 8:59 PM

    Wow, can't believe how few people were willing to wait out a 3 1/2 hour rain delay.

  76. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    Did Edwin Jackson miss his spot to the wrong guy or what?

  77. TimDz - May 13, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    Oops…

  78. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 9:03 PM

    Votto homers.

  79. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    Nice at-bat by Bryce Harper

  80. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Bob Carp called that Jesus Flores fly-out like a 3 run jack.

  81. Section 3, My PFB Hitterish Sofa - May 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Eugene, a little late, but: my question is: If the runner on second had simply allowed himself be hit by the batted ball — obviously, with no question that it was intentional — would the umpires have had any option to award the Braves two outs? I think not (based largely on the fact that a scorer can't assume a double play), but it wouldn't seem fair to allow the runner to let himself by hit and thus prolong the inning. Anyone know if there's a rule to address that situation? Yes, there is.7.09It is interference by a batter or a runner when — (e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

  82. Drew - May 13, 2012 at 9:17 PM

    Atta way, Jesus!

  83. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    nice info Sec 3.Sac fly by Jesus ties the game.

  84. peric - May 13, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    @shannaclawz got seriously elbowed in the ribs by an O's fan because she is big-time Nationals and TB Rays fan. Apparently fans were video taping the obnoxious O's fan next to her. She got an upgrade to the front rows … still ….Have to wonder about obnoxious O's fans coming to Nats park for the series in May. The Phillies Phans redux?

  85. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Willie Harris DFA'd by the Reds

  86. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Roger Bernadina comes through again. As 3 of us said, give the guy some playing time before you cut off his head at the neck.

  87. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Eigene, the Braves cards and the rule. Had the runner from second gotten hit by the batted ball he is out. Also if in the opnion of the umpire he was hit on purpose to avoid a double play, the batter is also out. They said that on the broad cast during the top of the next inning. They read rules number, but I am not aware of it.

  88. Drew - May 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Funky Cold Bernadina!

  89. peric - May 13, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Willie Harris DFA'd by the RedsWillie Harris == Pudge. Stop the Riggleman geezing.

  90. Drew - May 13, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    Funky Cold Bernadina!

  91. TimDz - May 13, 2012 at 9:31 PM

    1) Get the lead…Check.2) Get thru five innings to make it official.

  92. rdexposfan - May 13, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    Shark attack 7 of 9 against Arroyo

  93. peric - May 13, 2012 at 9:33 PM

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  94. peric - May 13, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    Not to mention DeRosa! He seems pretty much done … another possible example of geezing. When a high five injures you and you are a professional major league baseball player? Houston we have a problem better get Senator John Glenn back on the ground.

  95. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    And I'm one of those 3, Gonat.

  96. Section 3, My PFB Hitterish Sofa - May 13, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    That was funny. While they were showing a Nats fan with a red block W, the woman sitting next to him was totally giving the guy next to her the full "Talk to the hand cuz the nose CANNOT stand your breath!"

  97. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    Zim back to throwing 3 quarters again? I have seen that for a few throws when he is on the move. Didn't have to move much for that last play.

  98. peric - May 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    But . . . does that work if the Nats are in the middle of a wildcard race? (Which I think is likely)Given the current rash of injuries? Are you kidding? Plus I suspect (as Natslady reported) that a trade is in the offing to deal with the Wang situation. Its interesting that from all reports no one wants Lannan but all are interested in Wang. What will block Rosenbaum from a September call up? Lannan. If Gorzo goes down you might see him brought in to fill that role. That seems like a good fit for him at this point. As for September. Let's see if they survive the late May and June schedule first.

  99. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    lot of hits so far!

  100. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    Ya know. I've decided to lay off any of our guys that are out hitting Pujols

  101. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Anyine have a clue where we rank in RISP in the majors. Dor a first place team, I am betting pretty low.

  102. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    Any one have a clue where we rank in RISP. For a first place club, I bet you it is low. If we were good at RISP, we would not have som many close games.

  103. TimDz - May 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Oops II

  104. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    That got too much of the plate but credit to Joey Votto

  105. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    Edwin just got lucky against Bruce. Missed the target on a dead red fastball 94mph that luckily Bruce swung through for strike 1

  106. peric - May 13, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Roger Bernadina comes through again. As 3 of us said, give the guy some playing time before you cut off his head at the neck.Definitely a better choice at this point than all the proposed external options. And he's still developing …

  107. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    Votto I knew would sooner or later wake up. We jave wasted a lot of hits. Come on boys, lets wake up and score the runs. Arroyo is pitching the ball so we can hit it.

  108. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:04 PM

    In a 2-2 game, it magnifies that top of the 4th where you have Espi and Ankiel on 1st and 2nd with no outs and they were stranded in the same spots. Edwin is not a good bunter so far.

  109. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:07 PM

    peric said… Roger Bernadina comes through again. As 3 of us said, give the guy some playing time before you cut off his head at the neck.Definitely a better choice at this point than all the proposed external options. And he's still developing … May 13, 2012 6:01 PM ______________________________The comments after Werth was injured that Bernadina was compared to garbage when he has virtually had no playing time was just a little premature. Sure, he isn't an All Star but he is a decent fill-in and better than Nady who has had numerous opportunities.

  110. rdexposfan - May 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    12th in the NL .220 RISP

  111. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    From now on 4 fingers every time Votto comes up.

  112. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    MicheleS, 1st HR was missed by 2 mitts on location, the 2nd was middle of the plate and Votto may have been sitting on the changeup—and he didn't miss it.

  113. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=DH&sid=t552&t=p_pbp&pid=502145Anyone know who Syracuse's Jim Negrych is? Don't recall him.

  114. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    come on Danny boy!

  115. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Espi with a hit w/ RISP finally breaks his 0-fer drought!

  116. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    picking Danny up for my fantasy team.

  117. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    make him pay JFlo.

  118. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:23 PM

    ugh Arroyo got lucky. Danny out at plate on JFlo's single to left.

  119. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    We got the lead for a second time. Let's not get it back. Espi is swinging at less bad pitches, and thius he will hit more balls. Let's hope that habit of swing at balls in the dirt is over.

  120. NatsNut - May 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    I'm so happy for Bryce, Danny and Bernadina! Go hitters!

  121. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:27 PM

    What is Ejax's problem, we got leads in Pittsburg he gave it away, looks like he is trying to do the same thing again. Take advantage of the lead guy.

  122. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Jackson prepares to give some runs right back. Bronson has been replaced with a pinch hitter and runners on 2nd and 3rd.

  123. rdexposfan - May 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    From nationalsprospects. Negrych was a 6th Round pick in the 2006 draft for the Pittsburgh Pirates, who spent last season in the Marlins organization, posting a .304/.370/.402 line for Miami’s AA affiliate

  124. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    People wondering what they plan to do with WWang and Detwiler. Detwiler has pitched much better than EJax, I would do nothing with Detwiler at all at this point.

  125. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Hasn't there been some trade interest in Wang? That might decide it.

  126. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    So mccatty is getting the pen up. Ejax just struggling out there.

  127. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    Espi preserves the lead. Nice catch!

  128. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    EJax hung that slider to Valez who was a .190 hitter and batting in the 8 hole for a reason. EJax has also received double the run support of JZim. I don't like what I keep seeing from him except at the plate as he is a very good hitter.He had the one gem earlier this year against these Reds.

  129. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:36 PM

    EJax minimize the damage he created as best he can. Still don't understand why he gives back runs so often in the following inning after we score. (Wish I could find a stat on that).

  130. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 10:37 PM

    For about the 100th time, neither Wang nor Jackson can be traded till June 15th.

  131. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    Ejax is what he is — a perfectly good No. 4 starter that pitches 200 innings a year with a decent ERA. Solid, but not spectacular innings eater. A step up from Livo or Lannan, but not in the same league as the Big 4.

  132. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    if steven can come off of bench, I fail to see why people object Moore as a bench player?anyways, this has become a must win game if nats wanna stay in first place.

  133. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Did anyone suggest trading Wang before June 15th? Sheesh.

  134. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    can they trade wang tomorrow?

  135. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    we can't even bunt properly.

  136. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    Bernadina spanked that ball. Unlucky. Right at the LF

  137. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:45 PM

    If Desi gets the bunt down, it moves Lombo to 3rd and easily scores on Bernadina's liner to LF. Fundamentals……

  138. peric - May 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    For about the 100th time, neither Wang nor Jackson can be traded till June 15th.I thought Kilgore said it was May?

  139. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Gonat said… If Desi gets the bunt down, it moves Lombo to 3rd and easily scores on Bernadina's liner to LF. Fundamentals…… not the idiotic theory that the exact same thing would have happened…perhaps he's pitched differently? walked to set up dp? a dozen other possibilities?

  140. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Wow 0 for 3 with RISP again. That is twice this game now. Desmond trying to bunnt on a high pitch, that almost never works, let it go and it is ball 1. A good bunt and if Roger hits the ball like he did we would score. As I said before we must have one of the lowest RISP averages (I think we actually have three hits today, however one didn't score a run).

  141. Fear and Ignorance - May 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Why did Rizzo spend $11 million to sign Jackson, who has never been any better than Lannan? Couldn't that money have been better spent on offense?

  142. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM

    F&I: Compare jackson and lannan's avg innings per start last year

  143. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Fear and Ignorance, were you complaining the same about Ejax when he was throwing his two-hitter against Reds in Nats park?

  144. peric - May 13, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Why did Rizzo spend $11 million to sign Jackson, who has never been any better than Lannan? Couldn't that money have been better spent on offense?Probably because YOUR STATS date back to before Francis Galton (1886-1911) most of the smarter GMs don't USE YOUR stats. They use stats that do a better job of accurately modeling a player's performance.Man stop with the Lannan AAAA pitcher replacing EJax. There's just no comparison. EJax has pitched over 200 innings 3 years in a row, thrown a no-hitter, and pitched in playoffs and world series. Has Lannan? NO.

  145. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    "Nice catch, Hayes. Don't ever &^$% do it again."

  146. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Bryce Harper's inexperience in calling off Espi almost cost the Nats. Turns into a nice 150 foot Web Gem. Bryce had to come a long way for that one!

  147. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Harper made that wayyy toooo interesting… hmmmm he should have let Danny get it

  148. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    lannan 5.5…jackson 6.4…ejax went about an inning more a start..think about the wear and tear jackson saves on the pen

  149. peric - May 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Couldn't that money have been better spent on offense?By all accounts (including Fielder) the Nats could have had Prince Fielder. Plenty of offense. They decided to go with the plan which means developing prospects to provide offense, i.e. Bryce Harper, Danny Espinosa, Roger Bernadina, Anthony Rendon, Ian Desmond, Ramos, Flores, etc. If you don't like it go watch the Ori'holes. They still like bringing on geezing quasi AAAA players to give them hitting.

  150. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    OK….so with nobody out and a man on second only in the 6th inning, you're suggesting walking the 1 hole hitter to get to the 2 and 3 hole hitter?I can't believe a sac bunt was on and that Desi did that on his own. That was bad situational baseball on top of poor execution.

  151. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    One of Espi's better at-bats. He recognized the curveball. It took a month to do it! What do they say, better late than never.

  152. UnkyD - May 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    Itd be nice to score more of these base runners, but if we simply put 10+ men on base, we'll win lots more than we lose… Good to see the bats waking up…

  153. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    peric said If you don't like it go watch the Ori'holesenough of that go watch the o's crap

  154. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    Really glad to see Danny come around.I want this win! I can't believe the Braves swept the Cards… grrrrr.. stupid Braves.Oh.. and if Any Nats Front Office people are reading this. DO NOT have some going away party for Chipper at Nats Park. Just tell him, don't let the door hit you on the way out buddy.

  155. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… OK….so with nobody out and a man on second only in the 6th inning, you're suggesting walking the 1 hole hitter to get to the 2 and 3 hole hitter?I can't believe a sac bunt was on and that Desi did that on his own. That was bad situational baseball on top of poor execution. May 13, 2012 7:03 PM ____________________________Hard to tell what was going on with that at-bat and if Davey put on a bunt. Desi's a better bunter than that. It was just poor executtion.

  156. Fear and Ignorance - May 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    Peric-Yeah, that meaningless ERA stat is SOOOO outdated. 4.43 (Jackson) vs. 4.00 (Lannan). Jackson has never been the better pitcher, and there is a reason he has been on 7 teams in 10 years. He is not going deep into games like promised, and the bottom line is that he was really not needed. They needed offense, not another #5 pitcher.

  157. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    Lannan f'in SUCKS..thats why they're paying him 5 million NOT TO PITCH!!!

  158. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    Time for the Goon Squad to check in.

  159. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    one reason he has a lower era is because he gets yanked out of games so early…managers know all hell is about to bust loose..the third time through the order lannan is target practice

  160. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    The relief pitcher for the Reds can't get a strike over. In the Flores at-bat, he throws a get me over fastball for strike 1 dead red which JFlo was in take mode, then he throws in a fastball coming in at JFlo's knee which he swings and misses and eventually K's. He throws 4 straight balls. Unfortunately JFlo swung at 2 of them. OUCH

  161. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Uh….Jackson has ALWAYS been the better pitcher. That's why he's always wanted by somebody and Lannan isn't.

  162. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Gonat/NatsJack I think JFlo will be fine defensively/ calling a game. Do you think it will take him a couple of days/weeks to settle in at the plate? He hasn't had much playing time. I don't expect him to have power, but figure he would be good average guy.Also, how would they use leon? Day game after a night game? Or will he become someone's personal catcher.

  163. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Fear and Ignorance said… Peric-Yeah, that meaningless ERA stat is SOOOO outdated. 4.43 (Jackson) vs. 4.00 (Lannan). Jackson has never been the better pitcher, and there is a reason he has been on 7 teams in 10 years. He is not going deep into games like promised, and the bottom line is that he was really not needed. They needed offense, not another #5 pitcher. May 13, 2012 7:08 PM _______________________I agree. I made that argument before and after EJax was signed. The net gain of EJax pitching on average 1 more batter per game at a higher ERA isn't a net gain for this team.

  164. CN - May 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

  165. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    i would love a vanilla milkshake right now..is there a better beverage than a milkshake? no way

  166. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Another RBI for Tracy — 7 pinch-hit ribbies this year.

  167. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Chad Tracy picks up Flores. The GOON SQUAD!!!! Where is JayB and his criticism of the bench?

  168. CN - May 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    THAT was a pro at-bat by Tracy, fouling off 5 pitches and laying one out to RF to drive in Espi

  169. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Good job Tracy.

  170. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    ejax pitched 1 more inning per game..that is substantial

  171. Joe Seamhead - May 13, 2012 at 11:16 PM

    Wow! What an at bat by Chad Tracy!

  172. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Ump's tired of standing in the rain.

  173. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Man on third you cannot take a thrid strike. Just tap it foul like Tracy did, and get a pitch you like. That is what George Brett used to do so much. Rarely a called third strike.

  174. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    MicheleS.JFlo is gonna be fine calling pitches. Jacksons location got him in trouble, not the pitch call.Leon will only get maybe 3 out of 14 games. They may feel that he's developed enough defensively to keep him all season.

  175. peric - May 13, 2012 at 11:24 PM

    Peric-Yeah, that meaningless ERA stat is SOOOO outdated. 4.43 (Jackson) vs. 4.00 (Lannan). Jackson has never been the better \YOU TROT OUT YOURS AND for the 1000th time I will trot out my REAL mathematics created by folks who are reasonably proficient in modern mathematics. In other words they don't go doh every time someone mentions the world calculus.Adjusted/weighted to be Park and defense neutral2011 John Lannan 182.3 xIP, true ERA or tRA 5.04, pRAA of -15.1 Pretty close to the ABSOLUTE worst for any major league starter and he has had similar stats THREE YEARS IN A ROW!5.04 is Lannan's TRUE ERA. IT SUCKS whale protuberances!In 2012 Edwin Jackson has 38.8 xIP, a tRA of 2.93, and a pRAA of 4.8. STOP pushing AAAA Lannan who really isn't any better than JD Martin, Atilano, Mock, etc. In fact his stats were often worse!!!

  176. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    I have a feeling if is is even remotely close, the umps are going to be calling it. The rain is starting to come down again.

  177. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    Man…9 more outs is alot.

  178. Fear and Ignorance - May 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    NatsJack-Then why does he have a higher ERA if he is better? Feel free to go to http://www.fangraphs.com to make your lousy case.Peric-You mean those washed up veterans like Chad Tracy. Your right, good teams like the Cardinals, Yankees, Rays and Red Sox always play prospects over veterans. Get real!!! This isn't the MLB D-League!!!

  179. Fear and Ignorance - May 13, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    You're

  180. peric - May 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Fear and Ignorance go watch the Orioles. They love ignorant fans who fear mathematics.

  181. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    I doubt there's anyone in organized baseball who would take Lannan over Jackson. It's not even close. Jackson's just a much better pitcher.

  182. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    NatsJack, 7 more.

  183. peric - May 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    NatsJack-Then why does he have a higher ERA if he is better? Feel free to go to http://www.fangraphs.com to make your lousy case.Fangraphs puts ALL THE stats there sucker. If you are stoopid enough to just use the ERA then you will certainly have a crappy fantasy team. Many will rub their hands in glee as they take your money.

  184. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    fear and ignorance… I don't need fangraphs. I use scouts, GM's and cross checkers.

  185. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    Good job Nattheus

  186. baseballswami - May 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    Is it my imagination or is this game taking FOREVER!! Things always feel so precarious during our games, even when we were leading by 3 or 4 a FEW times, I never breathed easy. I guess it comes with the territory of having been a nats fan since the beginning. Feelings of impending doom are around every corner. Hard habit to break.

  187. peric - May 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    Peric-You mean those washed up veterans like Chad Tracy. Your right, good teams like the Cardinals, Yankees, Rays and Red Sox always play prospects over veterans. Get real!!! This isn't the MLB D-League!!!What's the Nat's record right now brain fart? And how many more years are these players going to be playing for them? A lot.

  188. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    This is just an observation..Lannan always seemed like a nibbler and really couldn't blow anyone away, EJax is a power pitcher and can chuck it up there. Regardless of salary, I would rather have EJax. (Plus it's not my money and lord knows many have called the Lerners cheap, I think we can dispell that if they are willing to fork out $$$ for a 4/5 pitcher on the MLB staff and to Park one in AAA)

  189. Section 3, My PFB Hitterish Sofa - May 13, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    So, this is officially a fantasy baseball site now? Sigh.Flame away, lads, I'll be in the cage.

  190. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Swammi.. it is taking forever.. 6 more outs..Sec3.. thanks for answering the earlier questions from Euguene, I always wonder about that stuff too.

  191. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Shark!

  192. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Where would we be without ALR?SFNats.. it's the water.. Sharks like water.

  193. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    LOL…You're right. Must be the water.

  194. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    The only fantasy I'm having is that the Nats are still battling for first place and the Phillies are in last. And it's not a fantasy, it's FANTASTIC.

  195. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 13, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    ALR playing all star baseball so far. Remember he is a slow starter, so wait until he gets going.

  196. Fear and Ignorance - May 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Jackson is NOT a much better pitcher SFNats…he has 7 years worth of stats to prove it. Just because he has better stuff, doesn't make him a better pitcher. Ask anybody who was a fan of any of the teams he has pitched for in his career. I think they would all take Lannan from what I have heard. I am not even saying Lannan is better, just saying that Jackson isn't either, and not worth $11 million per year when the offense is at the bottom of the league.

  197. Scott from Burke - May 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    from F&I: I think they would all take Lannan from what I have heard.this sentence is so full of holes…

  198. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    I was gonna make a comment about our defense and errors lately and Desi commits one. Geez!

  199. NatsJack in Florida - May 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    So where's Lannan?

  200. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    Jackson may not be better, but he's worth every cent I paid for him.

  201. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Here's the key difference between Lannan and EJax. One (Lannan) has reached his ceiling. EJax has not. If he ever learns to be more consistent — a big wish, granted — watch out. He blows people away. That two-hitter he tossed a few Saturdays ago was one of the best-pitched games in Nats history. Lannan was a plodder; EJax is a thoroughbred.Been busy all day with Mothers of all assorted sizes, ages and stripes. So glad this game has crept into the evening.Do we have an MPH Rod appearance in the future? Should I warm up the snifter of bourbon and Maalox?

  202. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    do you walk Phillips (righty) and face lefty (Bruce), who has been hot lately? 2nd and 3rd one out for Burnett.

  203. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM

    Fear and Ignorance — I'm not worried about what fans would say. I'm just betting that no one who's actually involved with a professional baseball team would take Jackson over Lannan. Other than maybe ERA, which isn't the best way to judge, Jackson is better than Lannan in every measurable way. And signing Jackson at the last minute didn't stop them from spending money on offense. That's simply not true. The fact is, there was no one out there who fit what they needed at the right price. They could have had Fielder, but it would have been insane for an NL team to sign him for the years/$$$ he got. It's pretty insane for an AL team to do it. There weren't any worthwhile CFs on the market. And that's what they really needed at the time.

  204. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    Jackson has no-hit capability on any given day. Lannan has no no-hit capability. I'll take Jackson. And if Jackson results in a) a draft choice, b) a decent player in trade, or c) a play-off win, he'w worth every penny of $11M.

  205. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    FS=Faraz Shaikh said… I was gonna make a comment about our defense and errors lately and Desi commits one. Geez!————————-That was a tough error. I'm not sure Desi could have gotten him even if he had fielder the ball cleanly. Just a bad break.

  206. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    oh ok, I didn't know. Guess I will cut him some slack.

  207. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… MicheleS.JFlo is gonna be fine calling pitches. Jacksons location got him in trouble, not the pitch call.Leon will only get maybe 3 out of 14 games. They may feel that he's developed enough defensively to keep him all season. May 13, 2012 7:23 PM ______________________________Agreed. As I pointed out earlier, he was very fortunate that Bruce swung and miss on a dead red fastball that missed its location. EJax for his last 4 starts has been just getting by. Also fortunate for run support.

  208. SFNats - May 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    Sorry, above, I meant that no one would take Lannan over Jackson. Clearly, it's nap time!

  209. whatsanattau - May 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    Chest thump

  210. MicheleS - May 13, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    YUK>. Bam Bam, lost the ball.. We need this win

  211. Gonat - May 13, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    whatsanattau said… Jackson has no-hit capability on any given day. Lannan has no no-hit capability. I'll take Jackson. And if Jackson results in a) a draft choice, b) a decent player in trade, or c) a play-off win, he'w worth every penny of $11M. May 13, 2012 7:52 PM ____________________________Yes, but he is very inconsistent. 1 great game, 2 good games, and 4 not so good games. The 1 great game could have been a no-hitter. So what. Give me a consistent low ERA guy and while I don't consider Lannan that guy, he was consistently a high 3.80 ERA guy last year, and you are right, he won't pitch any no-hitters.

  212. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 13, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    wow we never make it easy.

  213. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Burnett's stats will suffer from that and that is where you need an asterik. He pitched a great relief appearance and a ball caught in the weather got lost. Stinks.

  214. Joe Seamhead - May 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Oofff! The t was painfully!

  215. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Desmond's error opened the door. When you give a team that hits well 5 outs they usually do score a crooked number. Ankiel almost bailed Harper out, he almost got to the ball.

  216. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    Yep. Burnett did a great job of pitching out of a jam that really wasn't his fault and limiting the damage. That run that Shark and LaRoche put across really looks big now.

  217. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    One-run lead entering the ninth. Ladies and gentlemen, the bourbon and Maalox are being poured full strength.Barkeep! Bourbon and Maalox all around for my friends. And that includes my very, very best friend, "GOOD HENRY!!!"Please make it be Good Henry.

  218. CN - May 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    GoNat, the asterisk will prob be in the form of an unearned run, as the runs came in with two outs after the lead-off error by Desmond.

  219. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    stats won't suffer, runs unearned due to Desi's error. Should have been 3 outs already

  220. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    A milkshake would have been nice today Scott, but I am sticking with the bourbon and the Maalox..Here comes Henry in the 9th…

  221. whatsanattau - May 14, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    There are no yes, buts in baseball. (only in blogging)

  222. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… Desmond's error opened the door. When you give a team that hits well 5 outs they usually do score a crooked number. Ankiel almost bailed Harper out, he almost got to the ball. May 13, 2012 8:00 PM __________________________Some people cut no slack at all. He would have to come across his body to make that throw. Who knows. I give a Hit on that if I'm the official scorer.

  223. whatsanattau - May 14, 2012 at 12:08 AM

    Flores=PopeyeHe's got the beard and he even runs with his forearms moving like Popeye.

  224. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 12:08 AM

    Agree with GoNat. I guess they gave him an error because he got the glove on it. But that was a tough chance and the runner likely would have been safe either way.

  225. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Hometown scoring. That Lombo ball to Votto the Gold Glover has been changed to a double from an error.

  226. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    that was funny… Go Ian.. Shark likes water!!! Get a hit please

  227. sm13 - May 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Henry time is coming….

  228. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    Okay.. No Shark.. Come on Tyler!

  229. djinFl. - May 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    The Reds announcers have had nothing but good things to say about Harper. Even covered for him losing the balls in the mist and evening glow. Said he is just a great kid, and great for the game.Just the opposite of the Pirates announcers, jerks.GYFNG

  230. Marty - May 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    Fix it, dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,Fix it, dear Henry, dear Henry, fix it.

  231. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM

    CN said… GoNat, the asterisk will prob be in the form of an unearned run, as the runs came in with two outs after the lead-off error by Desmond. May 13, 2012 8:02 PM ________________________Not true. Mattheus gets an unearned but Burnett gets not only an inherited runner scoring mark but also 1 earned run on his stats.

  232. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    Good Henry tme.yes Desi's play was hard to do, but in the 8th inning your team depends on you to do it.

  233. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    I really don't get that pinch hit for bernie. Tyler Moore hasn't played, is cold, cold, cold. Bernie is hot, hot, hot. Poor kid – he gets brought in in the highest leverage situations, with terrible conditions – sidearm, Chapman, now this and in the rain. He needs playing time – probably back in NY. Good Henry or Bad Henry?

  234. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    Bottom of the order to Henry. He needs to be sharp.

  235. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    One request: Feed him the DP pill, Henry.

  236. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    Oh cr-p, here we go again. Kardiac Kids got the blood pressure up.

  237. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    Do you get Clippard warming now?

  238. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    Love hearing the Lets Go Nats chant!

  239. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    There is not enough bourbon and maalox in the universe to get me through this season.

  240. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    Pour it on, Henry. Pour it on.I am so glad Florest is behind the dish.Barkeep, pour me another bourbon.

  241. Drew - May 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    When the bell tolls for me, the cause of death will say: Henry Rodriguez.

  242. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    Join the club, swami. Join the club. We're all going to alcoholics by Sept. 1.

  243. sm13 - May 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    Good visit by McCatty. Try to calm things down.

  244. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    No way, Sunshine. We can quit drinking after the season's over. Not before!

  245. NatsNut - May 14, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    OMFG. HENRY RODRIGUEZ, STOP THIS AND GET HIM OUT FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD.

  246. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    There's the slider

  247. Scott from Burke - May 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    time for the gas

  248. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    Pitch track had that as a strike

  249. NatsNut - May 14, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!??????????

  250. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Ruh Roh.

  251. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Davey Davey Davey…

  252. sm13 - May 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    First pitch ball = tough outing for Henry.

  253. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Definitely Bad Henry. This is just awful – all that hitting goes to waste. I know he was great last night, but sometimes someone else is going to have to close out games. He just can't be consistent.

  254. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    If Henry gets through this, it will be a miraculous type

  255. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    How many times do we have to see this.

  256. Marty - May 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    Dude's good…

  257. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    that just sucked

  258. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    OMG

  259. sm13 - May 14, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Ohhhhhhhh Henry!!Two walk off slams in MLB today – Votto and Stanton.

  260. Joe Seamhead - May 14, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    Desmond killed us once, the ump killed us once again, and Votto sent us to baseball hell.

  261. Fear and Ignorance - May 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    That right there is why Davey will never be a great manager!!!

  262. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Votto and HRod – what a pair. That was just unnecessary. Whatever happened to closer A and closer B? How many of these games can we afford to have him throw away? Yes, he was great last night, but when he is awful, he is dreadful. Anybody else feel that one coming a mile away?

  263. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Gonat said… Do you get Clippard warming now? May 13, 2012 8:21 PM __________________________I wrote that 11 minutes ago. He had to get Heisey and he couldn't do it. Votto did what Votto does but its on Henry. He created it and Davey let it roll.

  264. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    All you HoRod fans, this CLOWN loses as many as he wins, he is worthless and worse than that Davey and McCatty are CLUELESS. Why not bring in Clip, HELLO, HELLo, HELLO, I have decided that Davey Johnson may lead this team to 90 wins one day, but he will always be out coached in any playoff series.

  265. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Let the Good Henry, Bad Henry debate begin.

  266. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Nats are now in 2nd place

  267. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    F&I, Davey is already considered a great manager.

  268. Dryw Loves the Nats - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Ray wonders if it was the mound conditions. Has he not noticed that Bad Henry can neither throw a strike nor hold a lead?

  269. SCNatsFan - May 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    When you walk the bases full for Votto you deserve what you get. I can't fathom this is our closer.I predict tomorrow Davey stands behind Henry.

  270. Dave - May 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    Epitome of feast or famine.You can't be surprised anymore.

  271. Dryw Loves the Nats - May 14, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    On the bright side, Jesus shows that he can handle the plate. I love Wilson and feel horrible for his injury, but no way he would have stopped that WP.

  272. Drew - May 14, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    How many Hindenburgs do we have to watch?I would never, ever, ever let that stiff pitch in a pressure situation.

  273. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    better yet let the Smart Davey and CLUELESS Davey debate beginBTW: Do not blame Harper for this, i guarantee Davey and HRod will lose more game in 1 season than Bryce Harper will in his whole career

  274. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Have you ever seen a player who is either so completely spectacular or so completely abysmal? He has no in between and you can see it pretty quickly. There has just got to be a plan. I am not saying he shouldn't ever close games – I just think there should be someone else warming up and as soon as you see it's one of those nights, you just bring the quick hook. He also seems to do better with more than one run for a lead. Although a grand slam kind of takes care of a lead for us. We have a record number of hits and score six and it's not enough. That's weird in and of itself.

  275. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    This is one Davey and HRod PERIOD!!!!! AGAIN. I would think morale among LaRoche, Zim and other players that buts their ass is gong to get down when they start thinking they have a clueless manager and a LOSERof a reliever

  276. Michael J. Hayde - May 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    Ugh. It's frustrating enough that Henry Rodriguez has to learn how to be a closer on the job. SOMEbody has to sit him down and talk to him about the closer's mentality. You do NOT try to fool an 0-4 hitter with off-speed and wind up loading the bases for the guy who's 3-4! As F.P. says, you throw your best pitch and if he hits it, he hits it! Lord, I can't wait until Drew Storen returns!

  277. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    Don't any one tell me that this baseball and that is the way it goes. How hard would it have been to put in Clippard????????????????????????????

  278. NatsNut - May 14, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    no kidding swami. unbelievable.

  279. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    Long plane ride back. The relief pitching through the 8th was great even though the stats will say otherwise. Many clutch hits all game and it all gets erased by a botched 9th inning save situation.If Davey won't do it, Rizzo has to over-ride him. Clippard and Stammen were both available. He should have been warming one of them. Had to get Heisey with Votto on deck. Why did Henry all of sudden throw 4 sliders to Heisey? WHY?

  280. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    sit HrOd down and say, "hey stupid, if your slider is not working and hitting the freakin ground 3 times in a row, do not throw it again"

  281. John - May 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    Happy Mother's Day, Henry.

  282. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    r u kidding me? if you are not doing your job which is driving in runs with runners on, you shouldn't be worrying about whether your manager is clueless and reliever is a loser or not. you should shut up and try to get better at your job.

  283. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    baseballswami said… Have you ever seen a player who is either so completely spectacular or so completely abysmal? He has no in between and you can see it pretty quickly. There has just got to be a plan. I am not saying he shouldn't ever close games – I just think there should be someone else warming up and as soon as you see it's one of those nights, you just bring the quick hook. He also seems to do better with more than one run for a lead. Although a grand slam kind of takes care of a lead for us. We have a record number of hits and score six and it's not enough. That's weird in and of itself. May 13, 2012 8:39 PM ___________________________No kidding. Some of us said that after the Dodgers game. You can see it. He couldn't locate his fastball again tonight. When he can't do that, you're toast.

  284. NatsNut - May 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    good point dave. don't know why i'm surprised. oh man I feel sorry for those guys. i can't imagine their heads hanging any lower than tonight.

  285. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:45 AM

    They can't catch up to his fastball but he throws sliders – they lay off and take walks. What is wrong with this theory? Repeat after me: We won the series, we won the season series, we had a .500 road trip, DREW STOREN IS OUR REAL CLOSER AND WILL COME BACK! How do you think he feels watching this crap? He must be jumping out of his skin to come back. I really did appreciate him last year, but now, looking back, I didn't appreciate him nearly enough. Love you Drew!!!!!

  286. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:46 AM

    Gonat….. BINGO, excatly! I think Rizzo really has to think about Davey in 2012 and get some new blood in 2013, Davey is losing games for this teams like he did last season, HRod is not worth keeping, as soon as Storen is back, get him the hell outta here! He s gong to kill team morale, He may be the most inconsistent pitcher I have seen in 30 years

  287. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    FS=Faraz Shaikh said… r u kidding me? if you are not doing your job which is driving in runs with runners on, you shouldn't be worrying about whether your manager is clueless and reliever is a loser or not. you should shut up and try to get better at your job. May 13, 2012 8:43 PM ______________________________Even the best with RISP are successful 3 of 10 times but the best closers have a better than 5 of 6 success rate. While I would like to agree with you, Henry's very inconsistent and can't be the closer. Can't be.

  288. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    well good thing we don't have to see that guy again all season long. Thank GOD.

  289. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:48 AM

    DC media should be hard on Davey, the should not let him weasel his out of defending HRod. I would expect Davey to own up and say, my coaching cost this team tonight and maybe 3-4 other games this season

  290. Joe Seamhead - May 14, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    Hey! We won another series. We're playing with one arm tied behind our back. We blew this one, but we're still playing over .600 ball. Give it a break, Mick.What, do you want Clip to be set up man and closer every night? Henry was robbed by the ump's call of what should have been strike three on the batter before Votto. We got beat by a very, very good player in Votto after the ump's non- call. It's baseball. Get 'em tomorrow.

  291. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    I am so sick of this!

  292. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    FS, I'm with you. Nats should have been leading this game by about 5 runs, and it wouldn't be an issue. The plane ride home will be fine, .500 road trip, Padres and Pirates coming in for the week, Espinosa is hitting and Bryce is learning what it means to be on major league TEAM.The last time there were two walkoff grand slams in one day was 1998.

  293. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    Mick — I have been watching Davey Johnson his whole career. Yes, he is a baseball guy through and through. But one of his weaknesses is that he has pet players and players he does not favor and he shows it. Another one is that once he decides something he will stick with it even if the evidence shows something different, way past when someone else might. sometimes that really does pay off – Espi is coming around, he was right to be patient with him. His ego has always gotten in the way of his truly brilliant mind. This is a man who has been fired from a winning team. Managing pitching is not a strong suit. Again – no need to give up on him closing some games, just have a plan for Bad Henry times. Once it goes bad, it's not turning around.

  294. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Davey says "enough injuries, we have had our share" I say, enough coaching blunders Davey, we have had our share of losing in DC and your coaching is not making things better. A novice would had taken HRod out after the first 2 batters!!

  295. Mr. Doggett - May 14, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Ok, before you all start ripping Henry again, just remember he's going to be awesome his next time out and he's still improving overall as a pitcher ….

  296. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Mr Doggett, let Henry improve any where but DC!!!! I am done with this BUM!!!!

  297. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    mick said… DC media should be hard on Davey, the should not let him weasel his out of defending HRod. I would expect Davey to own up and say, my coaching cost this team tonight and maybe 3-4 other games this season May 13, 2012 8:48 PM ______________________________That won't happen. Davey sees by sticking with Espi that it would eventually pay dividends. Lombo will go with no playing time at the expense of Davey's loyalty. Espi has cost this team and so has Henry.I don't see Davey changing. I'm so over Good Henry and Bad Henry. I want consistent Henry. I will say it again—Henry is a thrower he is not a pitcher. He had the 8 and 9 batters again tonight to start out. Shouldn't be a high leverage situation.

  298. Knoxville Nat - May 14, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    Well that is what, 3 blown saves this season by Henry when DJ either has no one warming in the bullpen or waits until it it way too late to do so? It's about time some of the DC media people hold Johnson's feet to the fire on this closer situation.

  299. mick - May 14, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    OK Gonat, I see your point, except I would say that Henry is a LOSER and needs to become some other teams problems. I really do not see how other players can tolerate this over a 162 game seasonBy the way gang we are now out of first place, thank you Davey and HRod!

  300. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Seeing Flores, that is where I might fault Davey. Flores should have been Henry's personal catcher, period. Didn't help tonight, but in the long run, it might.

  301. Unknown - May 14, 2012 at 12:58 AM

    HRod is 8-11 in save situations, better than Heath Bell. Got jobbed on check swing to Heisey — it was a strike anyway and another pitch was 2 feet inside the ump's zone all day long and he called it a ball. Henry needs to learn from adversity. Biggest mistake to Votto was throwing the high heat – even if you walk him by throwing the slider or change the game can still be won. With better pitch selection OR competent umpiring, HRod is 9-11, and even 8-11 is better than Heath Bell. Next 7 at home before BRUTAL trip through NL East. The team's mettle will now be tested. Let's see.

  302. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Thanks, Unknown.

  303. baseballswami - May 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Even though I am highly bitter about what just happened – and well, I am also bitter about the caps, and well, about losing Werth and Ramos. I really planned on being positive now – kind of lost my way for a minute. Oh — and dropping out of first. But – the team has really been grinding and holding on through all of this adversity. It's a great bunch of guys. Did you ever think we would lose a game with that many hits and 6 runs? I know they will continue to battle – I hope they stay close to the top of the standings, maybe being second will get the target off our backs and onto ATLANTA's. Hang in and get a couple of people back and make another run. It's a long season. It does seem like when someone goes down, others step up. Espi and Bernie have stepped up and now so has Flo. GYFNG!!!

  304. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    I know that's kind of silly, you can't have a personal catcher for a reliever, but it was like night and day seeing Flores' defense. We may lose the power and offense we got from Ramos, but we'll get it back in defense.

  305. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Hey JoeNo, I don't want Clip to be closer. Howver, with 1 out why not have Clip come in when it is clear HRod is going to blow another game. What is your rationale for not having Clip in? It can't be because he pitched last night. HRod pitched last night too, Joe Torre any good manager would have made the move to Clip

  306. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    and we are hanging on by thread and you know what, other guys did come through. Our strong point is suppose to be our pitching and Clip was ready to pitch the final 2 outs or even to Votto. This where a good manager comes in. Injuries to Ramos and Werth had NOTHING TO DO WITH TONIGHT! This was all managing and not pulling a head case of pitcher whewn everyone in the ball park knew he did not have it,Flores caught a great game Nats lady and the proof is how he handled Mattheus. An all start catcher could not have stopped HRod from losing the game tonight!

  307. Dryw Loves the Nats - May 14, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    I'm with you, Swami. That was a hard loss, and really Henry should have been able to get that last out somewhere before Votto came up….but you've got to like these guys and what they're doing. All but two series won, guys playing hard every night and winning some they should lose. A starting rotation that makes people run out of superlatives. And this is without some of our key players. I'm working hard to swallow this ugly loss, but it helps to count our many bright spots!

  308. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    baseballswami said… sometimes that really does pay off – Espi is coming around, he was right to be patient with him. May 13, 2012 8:51 PM _______________________________Why do you think he was right? Because Espi had 3 decent games this weekend? What about the 25 horrible games?Some think Lombo is a star in waiting so Davey possibly shot himself in the foot for allowing a player with options to work out 0-19 with RISP until today to come up with a big hit? A couple of HRs in low leverage situations? Its a good sign but again there is a cause and effect of these decisions.That is the problem as I see it. Cause and effect. This team is on the cusp of doing something special even in the face of adversity with all of these injuries.

  309. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    I'm with you, swami. Well, I'm not bitter because I don't follow the Caps (or that pointy ball team, but I digress). Every team deals with injury and adversity. I wasn't expecting the Nats to be in first place this long, but I enjoyed it immensely, and I'll enjoy it when they get back there. Heck, it's only 1/2 game. Do we have to be #1 all year? What are we, Yankees fans? ;-)(Confidential to Michele: I wouldn't mind seeing Chipper get some sort recognition for his career late in the season, but I also understand that it could be awkward what with him being with a division opponent and all. I've actually come to respect the dude.)

  310. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    You didn't really think the Nats were going to grap ahold of first place in April and stay there until October, did you? Really? Stupid Cardinals, letting themselves get swept by Atlanta.

  311. Joe Seamhead - May 14, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    So, Davey Bashers, who should be our manager? You guys kill me. Look at our DL. Look at our record. I still think Johnson is pulling rabbits out of his hat.

  312. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

    Also, wonder what was up with those people seated near home plate who put on a horse head and a giraffe head in the bottom of the 2nd and 4th, when Bruce what would come up. Kinda weird.

  313. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:07 AM

    Joe Seam: that was one hell of rabbit he pulled out tonight wasn't it, lol

  314. Drew - May 14, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    In his career he now has 10 saves and SEVEN blown saves. Is that good? He' not a fireman. He's a ;(&$@" gas can.

  315. sjm308 - May 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    Mick: I love your passion but are you really sick of us challenging for first place and being in first for over 30 days?? We lost a really tough game but its 162 games and there will be games other teams blow against us. Just relax and let things work out. HRod is not our closer in Sept if Storen is well. Yes, this was a really really tough loss but it happens. We have Det and SS the next two days against the Padres who are coming East. We need to keep hitting and things will work out.I think I am that 3rd person who liked Bernadina and am very happy for him. Would not have put Moore in that tough spot in the 9th, plus I think you have to place more emphasis on defense at that time so I would have let Bernadina hit against the lefty.Everyone is jumping on HRod but if Desmond makes a routine play and Harper finds the easy fly ball we are not even in this spot.

  316. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

    Drew, he is a LOSER and belongs on one of the Nats teams from 2007 and 2008 that lose 100 plus games

  317. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    So, if somebody doesn't perform to expectations on any given day, they're a loser? Sorry, LOSER? Sure glad my mom didn't subscribe to that theory or I might be even more warped than I am. (Yeah, I know.) Thanks, mom. 😉

  318. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

    Joe Seamhead said… So, Davey Bashers, who should be our manager? You guys kill me. Look at our DL. Look at our record. I still think Johnson is pulling rabbits out of his hat. May 13, 2012 9:06 PM ___________________________Davey's the right guy although there's some that maybe would like to flush him, but if he doesn't keep the right balance, he could let it slip away.It isn't as if Davey's whole career is World Series wins. He has many detractors from his past.

  319. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

    sjm 308I am happy for Bernadina and Espinoza. I just think Davey and McCatty better get a read on when to go with Hrod and when to take him out or the morale on this team will sink to point that the season could fall apart

  320. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 1:15 AM

    spot on sjm, but like you said 162 games. luck will favor us sometimes and sometimes it won't. very tough loss to digest but I am not going to question people who have lived and breathed baseball all their lives.

  321. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    Nelson Cruz just hit a grand slam against Jerrod Weaver and his 0.79 WHIP (5-0, 1.60 ERA). Honestly, would you rather be a Nats fan or an Angels fan?

  322. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    NatsLady, that's what I've been saying since that Dodgers meltdown. Ramos is a great bat, but raw behind the plate. Flores is a much more complete player. It will never show up in the box score but that block he made on one of Henry's 55-foot sliders was as good as it gets. Ramos would have given up three wild pitches and Votto would have never batted. I will miss the Moose, but not his defense.We bounce back. Davey sticking with MPH Rod after the game, calling it "a bump in the road."Hell, the Cross-Bronx Expressway isn't this bumpy. It's a marathon, people. Pods, Bucs and first-place Orioles coming in this week.No time to hang our heads. There's Gorse to be Hacked.Come back soon, Mickey Morse and Drew Storen!

  323. mick - May 14, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    natsfan1A… so how many more games with Hrod losing them is OK for you, 5, 10, 20, hey why not 20 more?

  324. SonnyG10 - May 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    You know I really hate to lose a game we should have won. This loss was really hard to take, but sometimes s@#t happens. The baseball gods took one from us.

  325. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 1:20 AM

    Gonat, I am going by records but turning around a 70 win team to win a WS in 3 years (2nd place a year after 68 wins) and consistently doing that with other teams such as Reds and Orioles. That is also impressive besides that WS ring. He only stayed with other teams for two seasons.

  326. peric - May 14, 2012 at 1:23 AM

    325 posts OMG a new record!

  327. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    I was upset about the LA game, and I think the loss the next day was a direct result of demoralization by that high profile loss. Then the boys came home and lost the next one. Then they stopped losing, and pulled out series wins against the D-Backs and Fillies.The team is young. They can't lose extra games because of one reliever's meltdown. They needed to learn that and I hope they have.

  328. peric - May 14, 2012 at 1:27 AM

    So, if somebody doesn't perform to expectations on any given day, they're a loser? Sorry, LOSER? Sure glad my mom didn't subscribe to that theory or I might be even more warped than I am. (Yeah, I know.) Thanks, mom. 😉Best post of the day and apropos for Mother's Day.This all a part of the pain and aggravation of developing prospects. Would it be any better if Riggleman were here to trot out Ron Villone and his sexy baseball wife? Because that is what he would have done as soon as Henry got into trouble. And then? Might as well suffer with high ceiling prospects and their growing pains as opposed to decrepit close-to-AAAA types who can't last an entire season.

  329. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

    Jerod Weaver's ERA just blew up. 2.83 and he is still responsible for JHamilton at 2nd.

  330. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    Henry's got to learn to stay in there and pitch through it when he gets himself in a jam or doesn't have his best stuff. If he doesn't, he's nothing. Taking him out of a Sunday afternoon game in May when you've already won the series will do nothing but ruin him. It's not Game 7 of the World Series, after all.

  331. Exposremains - May 14, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    terrible way to lose but you kinda deserve it when you score 6 runs on 16 hits.

  332. Gonat - May 14, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    Bill Ladson tweet: William Ladson ‏ @washingnats Just putting it out there: Craig Stammen, Tyler Clippard or Sean Burnett should be given a chance to close games. #Nats

  333. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Gonat, JH is killing everything in sight right now. He has about 20 RBIs on the week I believe.

  334. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 1:34 AM

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  335. realdealnats - May 14, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    Mick, Easy, man easy. You sound unhinged. Davey's got us playing 600 ball. Lots of injuries. He's had patience with Espi and Desi and LaRoche and they've come through or are hopefully coming around. Yeah HRod has control problems, but Davey is trying to see what he has in this guy. What if he got Votto? Then we're all singing another song. It was a terrible day weatherwise. You may be right about Henry, but Davey's cool. Keep the faith, Mick, we love you and Davey.

  336. MicheleS - May 14, 2012 at 1:36 AM

    It's a marathon, not a sprint. I am tagging that game on Desi's error (or non error depending on your point of view) and our lack of hitting with RISP. Henry got squeezed in the 9th. Pitch track proved it. Yes, that game was a downer. 1A. your mom and my mom must have talked.And it's 1 out in the 4th, Weaver got yanked after giving up 8 runs.

  337. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:36 AM

    Thanks, peric. Best post of the day and apropos for Mother's Day.

  338. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    Davey might have used Clip or Stammen IF IF he knew there would be a rainout tomorrow. But there is no day off until May 24. He has to manage his bullpen. Jerrod Weaver just got knocked out of the game, after giving up 8 earned in 3.1 innings. Guess what, people–that's going to happen to us. You can bet. In 162 games, lots of bad stuff will happen. Our team has grit. I'm sorry if you're sick of it, but it's fun to me. I've waited a long time.

  339. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM

    Someone said it earlier. walking 2 guys to get to Votto is playing with fire. up 0-2 to haidi and he nibbles, throw a fast ball down the middle and blow him away or let him have contact and take your chances, but to walk him then made no sense. remember the pitcher is the one in control of the game, the batters are at the mercy of the hitters especially on 0-2 counts.Henry is so beauty or the beast. he is way to inconsistent to be a closer. Let Stammen get a try, and put HRod back in the 7th inning for a while. Why keep the status quo. Three blown saves by a closer in 14 games is way too many. However another won series so overall good, but we are now 0-5 in Sunday games. That is our worse day of the week for sure. 21-8 in the other 6 days.

  340. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 1:40 AM

    exactly NatsLady.Guys let's not forget the days of Millege, Hanrahan (who sucked with us), and others. Couple of hundred loss seasons and when we had no direction. I am glad where we are now. I don't think one loss, however crushing is going to down this team's spirits.

  341. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:40 AM

    Could be re. our moms, MicheleS. They may have chatted over beverages and bon-bons. :-)Agreed re. the Desi error/non-error and the issues with RISP. The ball that Harper lost was also a factor (that was on the weather and the lights, I think).

  342. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 1:42 AM

    Me, three.Our team has grit. I'm sorry if you're sick of it, but it's fun to me. I've waited a long time.

  343. FS=Faraz Shaikh - May 14, 2012 at 1:42 AM

    Manassas, that must be because we are 5-1 the day before Sunday.

  344. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 1:45 AM

    Ladson is an idiot.(1) Stammen is MORE valuable in the role he has now. (2) Clip is having a slow start, I'm not sure he's completely over the shoulder stuff and besides that, he's living dangerously by working on new pitches in 1-run ballgames. (Which I think he needs to do if he wants to prolong his career.) (3) Burnett was tried as closer before and blew a bunch of games before Storen took over the job full-time.Peric has been promoting Mattheus as closer, but, for whatever reason, Davey and McCatty don't see it. Face it, we are living with Henry until Drew gets back. End of story.

  345. NatsFanJim - May 14, 2012 at 1:55 AM

    These modern day push-button managers are too cute by one half — including Davey Johnson.Who says you need a pitcher for the 7th, and the eighth, and then the ninth? A modern phenomena. Matheus is going great — LEAVE HIM IN. Nope, gotta go with the lefty to lefty match up. Statistics don't overwhelmingly prove that move out any longer. 9th inning: gotta gto with HENRY, THE IMPLODER. Saving 8/11 is unacceptable — especiallay for a team with high aspirations. If Henry gets 44 chances at saves (which he won't) he would blow 12 games — yep, 12 games. Try making the playoffs giving away 12 games in the 9th.Henry the Imploder is not the answer. Switch Matheus to the closer role — or Clippard. What is wrong with you, Davey?

  346. D'Gourds - May 14, 2012 at 1:57 AM

    I think hrod's problem is he tries to be too fine. Last night he was just painting the black with 98. But you can't do that every night. And when you throw that hard you don't have to. I'm not a hrod "hater". He just has much to learn and closing 1 run games for a 1 st place team is not the place. I still advocate using Stamen. He's been around a while and throws strikes. That said, I really like the job Davey has done. He sees the big picture. This team is still developing. He is the perfect manager for this team. He has more baseball knowledge in his pinkie than any of us have combined. But it's fun to spout of opinions, no?

  347. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 1:58 AM

    Ny wife says the Nats loss is my fault on two counts.first Big CCat (whoo has not been on as he can't get his g-mail ccount to work) text me this morning about Votto, and I said he probably would kill us today. She said I am the one that talked Votto's game into the game it was.Second she said I conceded victory as soon as bad Henry allowed the first runner on. that seems to be Henry's M.O. if he gets the first person out, he has no trouble. Iffirst gets on he over throw his sliders.So I apologize for causing the loss. I see us winning 5 of 7 this week.However I would like our losses not to be as painful as many of losses have become.

  348. NatsFanJim - May 14, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    Henry the Imploder is not the answer. What did Davey tell him the other day? 8/10 saves isnt bad? Really, Davey? Have you lost your mind?Henry the Imploder has now saved 8 of his 11 tries. Given 44 chances during the season, Henry the Imploder would blow 12 games. 12 games, Davey! Try making the playoffs blowing 12 games in the 9th.Mattheus is going good; use him or Clippard as the closer. What is the problem not using Clippard to close? I just don't get it. Davey is leaking credibility. He is leaking games. What does Rizzo do with a 69 year old sub-par Know-it-all manager? Davey will not be back next year. I am taking bets.

  349. SFNats - May 14, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    The Nats are playing .600 ball and have been in first place for most of the season. With half of their key players hurt. I wouldn't go firing Davey just yet.

  350. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 2:06 AM

    Only 3 teams have more blown saves than the Nats. The Marlins, the ROckies and the Cubs. Of course we have a number of wins in the last couple innings too.Just need more consistent bullpen work. Will have to see bullpen ERA as I know it is going up much faster than the starters.HROd's ERA up to 4.70, Burnett has an earned run so the terror must have been changed to a hit. It was the first run he gave up this season.

  351. peric - May 14, 2012 at 2:11 AM

    Ladson is an idiot.RLMAO!Bill plays favorites. He doesn't like Mattheus and suddenly he likes Desmond and not Bernadina. But I would consider alternating Mattheus with HRod as it was originally set up. I don't think Henry can pitch in games in succession. In fact that is why Johnson pulled Mattheus for Burnett to preserve his bullpen not just to get the lefty-lefty matchup.I think he needs to practice what he preaches with the closer position.

  352. peric - May 14, 2012 at 2:18 AM

    What is the problem not using Clippard to close? I just don't get it. Because you haven't been watching long enough. Clippard implodes if he is over used and if you put him in the wrong situations. Clippard isn't a closer. He is an all star set up guy. Henry was originally slated to alternate with Clipp so that he wouldn't be expected to pitch 200 innings as he almost did last year. It would burn him out. Plus Lidge was there.But Storen went down … so they decided to have alternating closers which I felt could actually work. Then Lidge went down. The problem IMO is that they didn't replace Lidge forcing Henry to come in every close game and often pitch successive days. He isn't up to that yet. Yesterday he was lights out the best pitcher on the planet. Today Henry was less than adequate. Storen and Mattheus are better suited to the closer's role IMO. But Storen is hurt so I would alternate Mattheus and HRod.

  353. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 2:19 AM

    Henry just needs to fire it in. He showed he can do it. It is when he starts nibbling and giving the ump to call a ball he has problems. Fird it.Home Runs to McCutchen and Votto didn't tick me off as much as the pitching to the others before that. If no onegets on those guys don't get up. Simple formula. As soon as they came up i was not surprised at all at the results. Was ticked byt not surprised.I think we as fans take losses muchharder than they do. (I guess that is a good thing.) Besides lack of talent, I would not have the patients to be an athelete, because I would expect to win every game (though not realistic)

  354. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 2:29 AM

    I'm not sure it's so much that Davey plays favorites as that he has "projects" and he only works on so many of them at one time. So he may be (and I say MAY BE) retarding Lombarozzi's development while he lets Espinosa work through his problems. But it's pretty hard to have two guys starting second base every day. So he's made the decision to give Espi priority over Lombo. In the case of Flores/Ramos, he saw that Flores didn't need development, Ramos did. Perhaps Flores was a trade candidate, also, and didn't fit in the long-term picture.Fans tend to think in the immediacy–why didn't we win this or that game, why not put in this or that pitcher, etc. Every loss that seems winnable SHOULD BE WON. That is Riggleman thinking. Davey doesn't think that way. The Nats are going to lose 60 games (at least). Some will be absolutely unwinnable, for whatever reason–unhittable opposing pitcher, our starter gets shelled, etc. But those games have few lessons to teach young players–it's the games that you CAN win that you have to show the team not only how to win but how to lose, how to lose and go on to win the next game.Pujols got a hit. Wouldn't that be something if the Angels didn't lose this game?

  355. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 2:33 AM

    That's a good analysis, peric. I said from the first we would miss Lidge a lot. I'm not sure the alternating closers would work with Mattheus. Something about him makes me nervous, and I can't put my finger on it.

  356. whatsanattau - May 14, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    I'm often amazed at the vitriol spewed by fans after a difficult loss. (me personally I try not to go all spoiled brat, but whatever)Once Drew went down, Davey tried to go A/B with Lidge/Hrod. Lidge got broke. I think Dave would prefer a second closer, but he's running out of candidates. Anyone he moves into that role opens a hole in another area. In my opinion Davey was right to leave Hrod in to get out of that to day, but even if he had succeeded, they would be looking to someone else to close tomorrow. Three days in a row, has always been low on Davey's list.

  357. Manassas Nats' Fan - May 14, 2012 at 2:43 AM

    Just checking another trend I hope doesn't repeat. After the first two HRod meltdown, we lost the following game. Better stop that one now.A;sp the opther trend I hope doesn't follow is I have had a hard time sleeping after the girst two implosions, maybe enough time has lapsed for this one, though I should be in bed, and don't feel like it yet.I am sleeping better this season then in the past, as usually every blown game I have trouble sleeping and 2005-2010 I had many sleepless nights, less last year, only a few this year, but the impossion nights have been hard the old sleep system as I replay the pitches in mind over and over. (Another reason I could not be an athelete, I replay way too much in my mind.)

  358. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 2:46 AM

    Whats==I agree and was thinking the same. Also, that minor-league pitcher (Perry) is taking up a bullpen slot, presumably for mop-up duty–which we never seem to have!

  359. Section 222 - May 14, 2012 at 2:48 AM

    Listened to the game on MLB At Bat on my iPhone driving back from Roanoke. Thank you MLB.com. And what a wild game. Espi looks like he's back from the dead. Tracy is a professional hitter. And Charlie and Dave? They are Washington treasures. But Henry, Oh Henry. Once again, I love the guy, and I think he has a great future. He was unhittable last night, but here's the deal Davey, and I know you're reading this because you said you read blogs and Tweeter — hi Davey! — Anyway, you've now been burned three times. Last night everyone was saying what a genius you are because you stuck with Henry in Pgh, and he came through with a great performance. But today Oh Henry showed up instead of Good Henry. And when that happens, you must, must, must get someone up in the bullpen. Not to hook Henry right away, but to make sure he does not pitch with the tying run on 3rd base. Because at that point, his off speed pitches are not an option, even with Flores behind the plate instead of Ramos. And when major league hitters (especially Joey Votto, but also Rod Barajas) can sit on his fastball, they can hit it, I don't care how fast it is.I don't want Clip to close, I don't even want Stammen to close. Not yet. But I do want one of them to come in and try to get the third out in the 9th if there's a runner on third. Henry's a head case now when he gets in trouble, and he's blown three winnable games so far. If you'd learned this lesson after LA, we'd be 23-11 instead of 21-13. Don't let it happen again. You have options, use them. And don't give me this — "he's managing the bullpen" stuff. Bullpens are made to use to win baseball games. Time to use it when the game is on the line. We're playing two of the worst teams in the league over the next four games. We didn't need to save Clip or Stammen from pitching to one guy to keep them fresh for the Padres and Pirates. That's crazy talk. We may not even need them tomorrow or the next day. We should have won this game, plain and simple.

  360. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM

    Off topic, but these ESPN guys are terrible. Could they giggle and congratulate each other any more? Hello, fellas, I know it's 13-5, but there is a baseball game going on.

  361. JaneB - May 14, 2012 at 3:09 AM

    It's late, but happy mothers day to Mrs. Z! And a special thank you to all the mothers of our Nats, and almost Nats.

  362. Exposremains - May 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM

    Here's the way I think the Nats see HRod. They know he's an incredible talent who can throw 100mph and can be untouchable but they also know that he has confidence issue and stage fright. Confidence and stage fright are 2 things you can work on but it takes time and the best way to beat it, is to be put into pressure situations as much as possible until it doesn't feel so bad anymore. A lot of people can't overcome it and that's why the closer role is such a tricky and difficult job because it takes a special person to do it.

  363. peric - May 14, 2012 at 3:16 AM

    So he may be (and I say MAY BE) retarding Lombarozzi's development while he lets Espinosa work through his problems. Player development isn't completely on board with that either from what I've heard. They won't pin that on Espinosa working his way through his sophomore season. They want that. Davey sold them on the idea of teaching Lombardozzi multiple roles (UTL). Its not something he was getting in the minors. Even there they typically use ORG veterans for that role. Last year it was Matt Antonelli and Seth Bynum in Syracuse. Its Riggleman's idea for Guzman redux. A "starting" utility guy that could step in almost anywhere at a moment's notice. Given the injury toll you must admit that Lombo has been extremely valuable in that role? Davey wanted a prospect to do it. He didn't much care for last year's bench of Alex Cora et al. Needless to say given the clamor for Lombo one can see that he has been far more successful than either Hairston or Cora. So, from that perspective, Davey looks right on target again.But, is Lombo a starter? On some teams absolutely. But most every team would kill to have Espinosa in their infield. From my perspective, given the rash of injuries, Lombo is a starter.

  364. Exposremains - May 14, 2012 at 3:17 AM

    One more thing, if you give up on Hrod to early, he could become another Hanrahan(all star closer for another team)

  365. peric - May 14, 2012 at 3:19 AM

    I'm not sure it's so much that Davey plays favorites as that he has "projects" Sorry, I meant that LADSON has his favorites. Thus the odd depth chart where he puts favorites in starting positions even though they aren't starting. If he really likes them, when they get injured, he leaves the there. Ladson is an odd duck.

  366. Bigfish - May 14, 2012 at 3:25 AM

    RE: ESPN guys….Am I the only one who can't stand Rick Sutcliffe?

  367. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 3:36 AM

    Espos: You and I are in agreement on this. Henry may not make it, because stage fright is a REAL issue. For years, Barbra Streisand could not perform live because of it, and when she did, she wore a headset with someone whispering encouragement. But, his talent is evident. And the Nats CANNOT lose games the next day after he melts down. There is no one on the team who doesn't owe someone that they got their chance, and that includes Mr. call-off-the-middle-infielder-and-dont-ask-for-help-when-you-cant-see-the-ball Harper. I have to say, I was glad to see the last of GasCanrahan, and good luck to him with the Bucs. But Davey is not about to let a talent like Henry slip away without giving it his best shot.Now, I don't know much about the AL. And I certainly didn't learn much from ESPN Sunday Night Baseball except that Albert isn't hitting–which I already surmised.

  368. Exposremains - May 14, 2012 at 3:43 AM

    The mind is very powerful and if the second before Hrod release his pitch a little voice in his head says: "Don't throw it into the backstop" that's all it takes. These guys are professional but also human being and young too. There's a lot more to baseball and performance than physical abilities.

  369. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - May 14, 2012 at 3:45 AM

    @BigFish: You are not alone on Big Sut. I can't stand that idiot. And Orel Argument is only slightly behind.I am so happy the Nats get back in action against a so-so club, the Pods, tomorrow. Flush this game out of their system.I think they're going to have a 5-2 week. I'm going out Saturday night to observe the Balti-morons. Can't wait for the parade of rusted-out 1977 Olds Cutlesses to start from the north.

  370. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 3:50 AM

    I thought Tito was a good manager who got a bad rap. But he seems to be fitting right in with the giggle-fest on ESPN. Apparently there is a play-by-play guy who–occasionally–is allowed to mentinon the actual, y'know, game. The "commentators"??? Yuck.

  371. NatsLady - May 14, 2012 at 4:11 AM

    Just went back and reread Manassas Fan's wife's analysis of why the Nats lost this game. Apology accepted. LOL LOL LOL!!

  372. Drew - May 14, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    OK, deep breath. Now for some good news: In addition to his 35 RBIs in 32 games, Matt Skole has nearly as many walks (32) as he does strikeouts (36).The Hagerstown third baseman looks like a good lefty bat.

  373. peric - May 14, 2012 at 4:34 AM

    The Hagerstown third baseman looks like a good lefty bat.You mean future first baseman. There's the Nats hope for a Joey Votto type bat … by playing both first and third I guess the hope is that he will become a decent infielder. He has been terrible at third base. But his bat is legit.Have to see how he does in Potomac in a month or so.

  374. peric - May 14, 2012 at 4:42 AM

    I still advocate using Stamen. He's been around a while and throws strikes.Stammen is a long reliever / starter. He has a low 90's fast ball. Mattheus, Storen, and Rodriguez all throw mid nineties to triple digits. That is the template for a prototypical closer. Its what Aroldis Chapman is. Stop trying to set Stammen et al up for failure people! Sheesh! When they did have these sorts of closers, more often than not THEY LOST ONE RUN games. Now they are at least winning their share. Try to at least know what you are talking about before blathering about changing the closer. We could pick up Mike MacDougal. He's available, throws mid nineties and used to close for the Nats. There's a reason LA DFA'ed him.If we listen to all the noveaux NEGANON Nit wits, we'd have to irrevocably release Harper for losing a fly ball in the twilight. There's 2 runs right there! Well shall we DFA Harper because he is as much responsible as Henry and his 2 walks? STOP acting like blithering idiots.

  375. That old-school, prestigious way of Scooter - May 14, 2012 at 5:29 AM

    Guys, I wasn't here during the game, but catching up now, I think Joe Seamhead actually said it best (while the game was still going on):Oofff! The t was painfully!I think that pretty much says it all.

  376. kc21 - May 14, 2012 at 7:01 AM

    This might have been posted already, but I have an idea on how to save Strasburg innings. We call up Chien Ming-Wang in a few weeks and have them pitch together. Strasburg for the 1st 5 innings, then Wang for the rest of the game.It allows Wang to prepare like a starter and save Strasburg innings for September, when we'll really want him. If Wang pitches well, we could trade him during the stretch run.I know that means we eat up a roster spot on 6 starters, but seems like as the starters stretch out, we'll need less relief help. Burnett and Ryan Perry rarely pitch now as it is.Problem is what do we do when Storen and Lidge come back?

  377. natsfan1a - May 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    fwiw, last night he did throw up his hands to indicate that he couldn't see it, and Ankiel was backing him up but didn't quite get to it.There is no one on the team who doesn't owe someone that they got their chance, and that includes Mr. call-off-the-middle-infielder-and-dont-ask-for-help-when-you-cant-see-the-ball Harper.

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