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Game 128: Nats at Marlins

Aug 28, 2012, 7:50 PM EDT

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Stephen Strasburg tries to snap the Nats' losing streak tonight at Marlins Park.

The Nationals have done a remarkable job all season overcoming injuries to key players, but let's be honest: They really missed Michael Morse and Ian Desmond while getting swept in Philadelphia over the weekend. The return of both players to the lineup for tonight's two-game series opener in Miami can only be viewed as a positive thing.

Morse (bruised hand) and Desmond (mild hamstring strain) will be hitting fifth and sixth, respectively, in manager Davey Johnson's lineup. That bumps Jayson Werth and his .391 on-base percentage back up to the leadoff spot, giving the Nationals as potent a lineup as they're going to field at this point in the season.

They've also got the man they want on the mound when they're trying to snap a losing streak: Stephen Strasburg. Not only is the right-hander 3-0 without giving up a run against the Marlins this season, he's also 4-0 with a 1.44 ERA when starting with the Nationals on a losing streak of three games or more.

I'm not in Miami for this series, the last road trip I'm scheduled to miss for the remainder of the season. I will, however, be appearing live on CSN's SportsNet Central at 10 p.m. with analysis of tonight's game, so be sure to tune in for that. In the meantime, enjoy the game and the conversation here…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at MIAMI MARLINS
Where: Marlins Park
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 187
Weather: Indoors

NATIONALS (77-50)
RF Jayson Werth
CF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche

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288 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Steady Eddie - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    GYFNG!!!!

  2. dabassguy1 - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Missed the last four shows out on the road watching my favorite band. Hopefully, Morse and Desi's return combined with Stras will end this losing streak. Man, I miss watching the games when I can't watch them.GYFNG!!

  3. A DC Wonk - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Lineup sure looks better with Werth leading off and Morse & Desmond in there!

  4. SonnyG10 - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:17 PM

    OK, Nats, turn it on. Don't make me stress out early in the game. Put feet on Marlins' neck and keep it there. GYFNG!!!!

  5. Steady Eddie - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    And pitch carefully to that Stanton dude.And throw over to first a lot if Reyes gets on. Don't listen to the booing from the 17 fans in the stadium when you do that.

  6. Pilchard - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    The Nats 3 hottest hitters are:Lombardozzi: .421 BA in the last two weeks.Tyler Moore: .333 in the last two weeks; 3 of the 5 RBI last weekend.The Shark: .556 over the last two weeks.By comparison,Espinosa: .234 with 14Ks in 41 ABs over last two weeksLaRoche: .231 1 RBI over the last two weeksMorse: .143 over the last two weeks.At what point, do you go with your hottest hands?

  7. peric - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Moore 1b next sesson he deserves it.

  8. natsfan1a - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Make me proud, boys. :-)

  9. Secret wasian man - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    Sad day in DC. Cooley cut. Need the NATS to win and cheer me up. Die Shannahan

  10. NatsLady - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Interesting article (see link on the right) about how Atlanta limited Medlen's innings by starting him off in the bullpen with the goal of him being available at the end of the season.You have to wonder if they could miss the playoffs altogether due in part to that decision–could he have won 3 or 4 (more) games for them.

  11. NatsLady - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    Not Nats Related. Not Baseball Related.But this is REALLY cool. Stay safe, Gulf!Videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7oJvwY4Rik&feature=player_embedded

  12. JD - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM

    NL, I don't think Atlanta considered Medlen one of their top 5 starters at the beginning of the year anyway so I think that this is really revisionist history seeing as how he's been their most effective pitcher lately. I have only seen Medlen once but I am not convinced that he's Tom Seaver or Greg Maddux just yet.

  13. JD - Aug 28, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Peric, Where's Morse playing next year?

  14. RickH - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Not sure I want to cut ALR loose.

  15. JD - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM

    RickH, I am not sure that's happening either but I am also not ready to anoint Moore as the full time 1st baseman even if we don't re up ALR.

  16. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    GYFNG! STAY HEALTHY BOYS!The best news of the day.. Mark travels for the rest of the season! See you in St Louis!

  17. bowdenball - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Pilchard said…"The Nats 3 hottest hitters are:Lombardozzi: .421 BA in the last two weeks.Tyler Moore: .333 in the last two weeks; 3 of the 5 RBI last weekend.The Shark: .556 over the last two weeks.By comparison,Espinosa: .234 with 14Ks in 41 ABs over last two weeksLaRoche: .231 1 RBI over the last two weeksMorse: .143 over the last two weeks.At what point, do you go with your hottest hands?"Never. You go with your best players and you understand the incredibly misleading nature of small sample sizes.

  18. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    For those wondering if National Media would criticize the O's attendance, well, Rose/Millar on Intentional talk made a point of calling out the fact that they are not drawing.

  19. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    GYFNG

  20. peric - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    1) your posts are redundant.JD, I'm usually right and you're usually not.That has to count for something.Your Giggleman's Island mentality is why the Nats lost last season when they just might have had a winning record … using less veterans and more top talent from the minors.

  21. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    I know we hate the Barves, but send a thought out to one of their bloggers. Sad story for such a young man.Mac Thomason

  22. sm13 - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    Take Stanton out of the Marlins lineup and they look pretty weak. Our guys need to pitch around him for the next two days. Go Nats!

  23. DWS - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM

    Regarding run support (last post} who has JZ faced?Every pitcher has the misfortune of facing an ace or a pitcher on a roll. If any stat people want to really delve into numbers be my guest.Davey's going with the vets, lets see how it goes. I would have put Lombo in left itting second and sat Bryce. But I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

  24. DWS - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    And as always Baseball is just a little part of our lives that really isn't going to change mankind.Thanks for the reality check MicheleS.

  25. Theophilus T. S. - Aug 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    My mistake — I didn't realize they lost because Desmond and Morse were out. I thought it was because they were out-pitched.

  26. natsfan1a - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    From Mark's Tweeter feed. Now, that's funny (Hi, Davey and Mike!). :-)RT @acomak Davey & Rizzo start pre-game session together. Davey puts Rizzo in headlock. Point was Sun. convo = "normal business as usual."

  27. DWS - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    If I had a fantasy team next year Medlen would be on it.Theo?

  28. mick - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:20 PM

    Secret wasian man said…Sad day in DC. Cooley cut. Need the NATS to win and cheer me up. Die ShannahanI was driving to work this morning and heard the junkies go one about Graham Gano being cut… it was actually pretty funny. I will miss CooleyBut to be honest, i am so wrapped into the Nats, I really could care less about the SkinsCan't wait for tonight's game. GO NATS!!!

  29. BigCat - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Stras has gotta come out and blank these bums for 7 and then turn it over to our pen. We can't lose if the fish don't score. Period

  30. Drew - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Notes for the stretch run:1. Don't let Stanton beat you.2. Don't let McCutcheon beat you.3. Don't let Votto beat you.4. Don't let Kemp beat you.5. Don't let Wright beat you.

  31. NatsLady - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:53 PM

    Re: Medlen. Yes. A lot of it is hindsight. The Atl "assumed" they were playoff bound and that Medlen was not (yet) an Ace and planned accordingly. The Nats "assumed" they were an 85-87 win team, probably not playoff bound and Stras should pitch on regular rest as a starter as JZ did last year. That's why a lot of "why didn't the Nats do X,Y,Z with Stras to manage it better" criticisms are total baloney.

  32. rabbit34 - Aug 28, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    We have our Hammer line-up in there tonight. Good luck!!

  33. UnkyD - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    All I want for my birthday is the beginning of a new win streak!! Happy 53, to me:-)

  34. sm13 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    Agree with Drew. Do you add Holiday or Beltran to that list?

  35. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Well, I see another Loria-like 25,000 in attendence in Miami.

  36. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:22 PM

    UnkyD! Happy Birthday! And I want a win for you!!!

  37. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    Haopy Birthday Unkyd.

  38. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    NJ.. It looks like there are 500 people there. Wow! That is not good. After watching the Franchise, I actually feel bad for some of their players (except reyes). Definitely don't feel bad for Loria, he is getting exactly what he deserves.

  39. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    Batters 3 and 4 again 0 for 2 RISP . Harper didn't help dilly rallying in the batters box. First time I remember if not hustling. Probably cost them a run at least as Lee would be holding

  40. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    OY! What the heck was that!

  41. NatsLady - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Addendum: Don't let Ruggiano beat you.

  42. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    A meatball.

  43. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Fifth game in a row starter gave up first run. I thought we were going to get out of this terrible habit they have started.

  44. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    Command on his fastball just isn't very good at all.

  45. MicheleS - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:33 PM

    Well this will shut up the Strasburg crap

  46. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:34 PM

    Cries of shut him down can be heard…

  47. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    And another inefficient 23 pitch first inning.

  48. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    But then, you can pretty much hear every conversation in that ballpark…

  49. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    Is it too much to ask to score first. I am in a bad mood already. first two hitters leave man on base Then Stras pitches terrible.

  50. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:37 PM

    Not a bad swing from a guy who's been off several days.

  51. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    espy is swinging at breaking balls and taking fastballs, makes NO sense.

  52. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    Ricky friggin Nolasco.

  53. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    I see the same batting we have seen last Tuesday. I thought they would fix the problem.

  54. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    10 Pitch second inning. That is what I expected from Strasburg in the first.

  55. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    Any chance Stras can throw two more 10 pitch innings like the 2nd? I sure hope so.

  56. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    Now Stras will not be letting any fastballs go by…

  57. sjm308 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    Hate posting during a game – when is the last time we were ahead in a game? When is the last time we scored the first run in a game? Will take a deep breath now.Go Nats!!

  58. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    The Nats current motto "we make every pitcher feel good except our own"

  59. Ghost Of Steve M. - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM

    Sjm, last lead was a week ago 4-1 against Braves.

  60. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    0 For 10 first 3 innings . Nolaslo last 8 games 1-6 with nearly 7.00 ERA. So what are the hitters. excuse tonight?

  61. Secret wasian man - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    A loss tonight means one week since nats won a game. But hey. No need to panic. Zimmerman said so

  62. Secret wasian man - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Another steal. Ugly.

  63. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM

    Remind me again why 6.5 million Suzuki was picked up?

  64. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    I'm not going to panic. Anger or depression are the more likely results.

  65. NatsNutty - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Whelp, so far, the Nats are making Rickie look like just another Cy Young Award candidate with their anemic hitting. I guess it doesn't matter when or if Morse and Desmond return to the lineup, their anemic hitting is contagious. I also hope Stras "finds his groove" before the game gets out of reach (once again)!

  66. blovy8 - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    ok, it's anger

  67. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    That steal was totally on Stras. He didn't even look to first.

  68. -Dan- - Aug 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM

    It's so annoying, everything is going against us, we need a huge break for turning things around.

  69. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    carlos lee? that's like laroche stealing

  70. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Fielders quit. easy double play. Rizzo needs to go yell at players. Davey not the One screwing up they are. Stras doesn't bother to hold runners I see.

  71. Steady Eddie - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    With Danny's error and Strassy's inability to hold anyone in, they now officially are looking like losers. This is sad.

  72. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    Carlos Lee steals without a look. Embarassing.

  73. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM

    This team is really hard to watch right now. They are bad. If you disagree I think your just in denial. Go nats

  74. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    Giving them extra outs. Giving away bases like they are Tums. The old Nats are back.Legion of Doom, are there any seats left on this Titanic?

  75. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    Good thing it's not September yet. Probably should just get Stammen up.

  76. sm13 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    Greg friggin' Dobbs. Not to mention the suddenly speedy Carlos Lee. This is now embarrassing and worrisome.

  77. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM

    Wow, a throw over, I forgot they were allowed to do that. Surprised is wasn't a balk at this point.

  78. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Shut him down now. They are choking. Sept 15 th out of first. No need to waste innings get him out. Doom and gloom? You better believe it.

  79. Unknown - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    This team is unraveling like a cheap suit. By the time the Dodgers leave town, the Nationals won't be in first place in the NL West. This looks like another 2005 collapse.

  80. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Why don't they take Strasburg out? Why waste innings? He looks terrible.

  81. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    It's not like Strasburg is a converted outfielder or something. Nobody should have to tell you.

  82. Ghost Of Steve M. - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Espinosa error turns into 2 freebie runs and several extra pitches.Danny and Harper need time off.

  83. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    Actually, this is the eye test Rizzo was referring to. When you can't command a pitch you've thrown your whole life, something is not right.

  84. NatsNutty - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM

    5-0, no hitting, no pitching, no fielding. We're partying like it's 2008, 2009, and 2010.

  85. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM

    The only good thing about this is that it will only count as one loss.

  86. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    Kind of agree with you Steve, but EVERYONE had a day off yesterday.

  87. Grandstander - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    This might not have been a "must win", but it was definitely a "don't play like crap" game, and they're failing spectacularly. Might be time for some of this "veteran leadership" to hold a players meeting and set some people right. This is not a playoff caliber team at the moment

  88. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM

    If the nats end up Choking and not making the playoffs it will be a major disappointment. They are pressing. Yes it's panic time.

  89. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:09 AM

    look for #1

  90. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    Nolasco's gonna no hit the Nats.

  91. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    It's ok Ryan. No need to panic. You said so yourself.

  92. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    day off sure didn't help did it. are we going to to just fade a way tonight. All 3 onwere habe been awful. Rizzo yelled at wrong group

  93. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    The youth of the staff is showing up now, plus the other clubs are gearing up for the Nats.

  94. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    The 2005 collapse was much earlier. I will agree that the current squad resembles the bumbling Astros squad from a few weeks ago. I am just waiting for a couple of our guys to bump into each other….

  95. Ghost Of Steve M. - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM

    Come on NatsJack, Nats will get it going!

  96. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM

    This guy isn't no-hitting the Nats if they leave Strasburg in, he'll at least get a hit.

  97. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Except for the homer we have hit the ball harder. However We are hitting it where they are

  98. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    Tomorrows lineup should be. Bernadine. More. Lombo. Flores. Det. Nady. Morse. And Hellen keller

  99. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    We need a big deal like the other teams. Remember in 2005 when the Nats brought in Preston Wilson for the stretch drive?This game was over in the first inning, by the way, so if Strasburg comes out to pitch, the Nationals obviously don't care about pitch counts or inning counts. Oh, he should keep pitching so he doesn't interrupt his rhythm, cause his rhythm is so good right now….

  100. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    I've said it before and I'll say it again:It's a good thing it's the Barves that are chasing us.Let's go Padres!

  101. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM

    damn that Ruggiano homer was a meatball on the replay

  102. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    I'm trying the "troll" approach Ghost

  103. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    If you want to do conspiracy stuff, you might ask whether the League has changed the strike zones against the Nats.

  104. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM

    let's not start blaming the umps, bob. stras is stinking it up all on his own

  105. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    any out is good

  106. Steady Eddie - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    Forget the Maalox, time to go straight to the bourbon.NatsJack, while it's only one game, I'm thinking much the same. Even when he didn't have command in July, he just could only intermittently throw strikes. He didn't leave so much out there to be hit.I also agree with the "why waste the innings?" thought. Some games post-TJ, the command is just not there. Why throw good innings after bad?

  107. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:16 AM

    I take it back hit. Not at someone. 5 games 6 runs. Doesn't matter who is pitching our hitters are making almost impossible to win

  108. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Ah hah. I thought only the doom and gloom group were on tonight. But I see the MAKE EXCUSES Group has arrived. Welcome

  109. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Why is Strasburg still in the game?

  110. NatsJack in Florida - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:19 AM

    And with his 2 seamer, the movement is sideways instead of down which makes it flat and extremely hittable.

  111. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    I think the whole shut-down thing has been incredibly distracting for the team. Basically, the Nats are on record that they are not really trying to win it all this year. Why should any of these other guys give their all, when next year is the year that really matters?

  112. Manassas Nats' Fan - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:20 AM

    I place the quit-a-meter on to see if the team has heart like they most of the season or none like they did in Philly

  113. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    This looks like April with worse pitching.

  114. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    They look as though they have zero interest in the outcome of this game. Desmond would rather be getting massages than play.

  115. LoveDaNats - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM

    We're going to need a crane to "pick each other up" at this point. Come on boys. You are better than this.

  116. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    Lannan has pulled us out of the fire twice. Maybe it's time. This team has quit tonight. This is not a slump. This is a disease. Try again tomorrow. Time to watch dance moms. Goodnight

  117. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    they're going to luck into a hit, maybe a run, but this game is over. Terrible atbats. Of course, Espy just missed a mistake. I guess anything could still happen.

  118. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    K's and errors are our secret weapons.

  119. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    like some extra outs, for instance.

  120. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:24 AM

    That's why he gets the bigggggggg bucks. Suzukkkkk

  121. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    Why is Strasburg hitting?

  122. Ghost Of Steve M. - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    William, wondering the same myself.

  123. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Somebody explain why Strasburg is still in the game? Rizzo needs to deal with this issue tomorrow. This is ridiculous to have an injured pitcher out on the mound and hitting when he is losing 6-0.

  124. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Now I'm pissed. Really? Still going with stras? WOW. Way about innings count?? Ughhhhhh good riddance.

  125. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    Why use up your bullpen on a loss?

  126. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    Not sure what it is, but the Nats have been playing BAD baseball for about a week. Pressing? Maybe. Tired? Most definitely. Stupid? Unfortunately. But all of it represents BAD baseball. When Carlos Lee steals without a throw, you know teams have figured out you can't keep runners from stealing. Let's start there, calling for more throw-overs from the dugout. Improvement can be slow, but it needs to be constant with a young team.

  127. Unknown - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    The Nats have never been able to hit Ricky Nolasco. For that matter, they have never been able to hit any of the Marlins pitchers.

  128. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    The Nats have some ridiculous rhythm theory on top of an innings theory. Not only do you have to reduce innings, you can't take a young pitcher out of his "rhythm". Of course, there is no scientific basis for it at all, but it sounds good to baseball people.

  129. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    The starts at this point are the thing, not the innings.

  130. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Unknown. We are 2. O against Nolasco.

  131. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Which is based 100 percent on non-science.

  132. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM

    Oh, and about that hitting coach – is he on vacation? He is the one guy I would trade, plus cash, for the Orioles' equialent.

  133. ExposedinDC - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    Stay positive people, no whining in here….or so I am told

  134. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    That whole thing about looking at who is left on the schedule is garbage. We struggle with Colorado and Miami and seem to do well against San Fran. I guess they want to have Strasburg get hammered so hard that no one will say he should keep pitching.

  135. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    As this Strasburg shutdown thing gets closer and closer we play worse and worse.

  136. LoveDaNats - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    Pretty bad when the highlights montage is all Fish. Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed. Strassie does not have his stuff. Maybe this is the beginning of the end Rizzo is waiting for. Sorry. Hate to be Debbie downer but this is no fun.

  137. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    There is no whining. These are observations. It has been a great season so far, but I think the Nats were not ready to deal with prime time, but there is time to get ready.

  138. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    The glass half full folks have taken the night off.

  139. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:33 AM

    See, who would even want Strasburg on their post-season squad? Rizzo's plan is working.

  140. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    Will o. Well said. You got an over achieving team in bmore who is not intimidated. They are not choking. They are good.

  141. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM

    I am kind of disgusted that the Nats are just leaving Strasburg out there to get hammered around the park. Nobody even up in the pen until the score hits 7-0. Nobody on the team even tries to hit, because Strasburg is pitching and that will end the losing streak. On to Detwiler.

  142. LoveDaNats - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    This is easier to watch with a second glass of wine.

  143. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    Stras is done for the night, thankfully. Not a good outing by him, but his defense didn't help him either. BAD baseball makes a good pitcher look BAD, and good teams look worse.

  144. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    The Nats are still overachieving. Who had them over .600 before the year started? Let's not get crazy. This team is much better off than the O's.

  145. Swift Eagle - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    Someone else saw this a few starts ago..But I thought Stras was really falling off towards 1st more than usual tonight…There's no doubt to anyone who's watched him closely the last few years he is not right..

  146. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    They need to grind some atbats, take something away from this game, even if they're bound to lose.

  147. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Well, Strasburg made everything worse, with his own bad fielding play by failing to get the first runner in the 3rd. Everything steamrolled from there and his failure to hold on runners made it worse.

  148. Swift Eagle - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    As Davey said Sunday, you're never as good as you are when you're winning or as bad as you look when you're losing…It's a slump, it happens

  149. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Game is still not over, we have been hitting Nolasco, so we need to plug away.

  150. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    The O's are a statistical fluke. Nobody wins 13 one run games in a row without a huge amount of luck. The last time I looked, they were last in their division in run differential.

  151. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    Big knock by ALR and we are in it. Come on ALR!

  152. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    I just think the announcers could be a bit more realistic about how the team is playing. Yes, the balls are bouncing against them, but there are other reasons as well for this bad streak. If Desmond can't stay healthy, they need someone who can. You need your SS out there game in and game out, not sitting out most of the second half with niggling injuries.

  153. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    A home run now is just a tease.

  154. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Blovy 8. I agree with you. But once your 31 games over .500 and you can't be happy finishing with less than 92 93 wins.

  155. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    Nolasco ran out of pine tar in his glove…

  156. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM

    Good point on the announcers. You don't win games hitting the ball hard

  157. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM

    There's always a high point. Maybe they just reached it and are coming back toward the team they actually are. That could still be good enough to win the division, and I think anyone should be happy with that. If you are now expecting 100 wins, you may as well be a Yankee fan or watch football.

  158. Swift Eagle - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:46 AM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said… You need your SS out there game in and game out, not sitting out most of the second half with niggling injuries. August 28, 2012 8:42 PM ______________________Sort of like negative posters who never show up during the winning streaks?I always thought it was b/c you were just haters, but maybe you had "niggling injuries"

  159. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    The Nats generally need four hits in an inning to score a run with their speed. We have only 3 guys who can even run at all. Morse and La Roche are pictured next to the word lumber in the dictionary.

  160. Section 135 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    When was the last time Laroche came through in the clutch? He needs a day off every series. Same with Espinosa and Harper. When Sept comes we better see some call ups play. This team is tired and a choke is coming if theyre not careful.

  161. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

    WODL, a HR there was not a tease, it was the start of a rally. You seem to post just to inflame people here – that fake quote by Stras is a prime example of the excremental nature of your content.

  162. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:48 AM

    Can we say "Free Fall'?

  163. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    For what it's worth, Espy looked like a better shortstop anwyay, and there's no harm in Lombo playing 2nd every so often.

  164. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    To quote that famous preacher:"The Nationals' chickens have come home to Roost."

  165. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    It is funny that some people complain about negative posts and I agree, if you are talking about personally attacking players or being a troll. But many of us post during losses because that is more instructive.In my opinion, it is the true "homers" who are completely unobjective, who post during wins. But I will try to come on the next time we pound team X and post something like: "Take that team X. You suck and the Nats are great."

  166. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    Swift I'm glad to see your taking zimms advice and not panicking. Glad you chimed in to lecture us. Don't take your frustrations out on William O. Hes has an opinion like all,of us.

  167. NatsNut - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    I just got home and checked the score first thing. Ohmygosh, what in the heck is going on? It's the baseball gods, isn't it? We said "playoffs" too soon and too often didn't we? I'M SORRY!!!

  168. Swift Eagle - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    How is NOT personally attacking a player when you claimed Desmond was sitting out when he was able to play?

  169. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    I bet the Nats would like to have back the 4-10 games that Davey cost them during the year doing his little experiments: think HRod, and that crazy experiment with Wang — and numerous other failures to manage a close game.Davey: A clubhouse genius; on-field dolt.

  170. Oldguy - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    They are on strange turf and will learn from this. The last 4 teams that have gone to their first WS are collectively 2-16. It takes a while to get the feel of it. Veterans who have been there are great, but they can't experience it for you. Nobody thought this was to be our year in April, and maybe it's not. So be it. It has been a great run so far, and we may still get there. But whatever happens, we'll be better next year.

  171. mick - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    Swift… agreed. Slumps happen, the good news is Desi and Morse are back, we will be fine. i would like to get a run or twoThe Strass controversy ought to stop now, no big deal with a shut down… I think he is tired, frustrated and is showing a little immaturity in behavior on the mound. Nats will win without him the rest of the ay and this would good for Strass.

  172. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Ebay2k, you need to reel it in. If you disagree with something than write, with facts, why you disagree. Calling something "exremental" is argumentum ad hominem and gets you a D in any logic class in any philosophy class in the land.

  173. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    What was "instructive" about the fake Stras quote? What was instructive about calling a three run HR a "tease"? Your idea of instruction is pedagogy, at best. Go sell it somewhere else.

  174. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    In Stras' defense tonight (and not to make excuses) Stras was squeezed like no other time all year — this ump wouldn't budge on any corners — and was generally terrible (pitch track constantly bored this out.)

  175. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    William O Doug. Well spoken. I agree. Folks think if they are all positive they are better fans. NOT TRUE.

  176. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:55 AM

    another fat pitch

  177. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Learn to read William ODL – I said your comments were exceremental. I never said anything about you. Please enlighten us all as to why your fake, unattributed "quote" from Stras was anything but pure excrement?

  178. LoveDaNats - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Un effing believable.

  179. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Ha ha William O brings a little edjamacation to this Homer board.Calling out posters on their Rhetorical Fallacies!!!I love it.

  180. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:58 AM

    I don't think there is any question that Desmond could have played last weekend. The Nats and/or he, were being hyper-cautious, but that seems to be the team's way. I am just used to Cal Ripken and Pete Rose type of players who basically are not coming off the field unless you drag them off.

  181. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:58 AM

    In fact, this board (while hosting a bunch of nice folk) is chock full of Self-deception and rampant Rhetorical Fallacies.Hmm, most conversations in life are fallacies, come to think of it.Oh, but everyone does it, right? (oops, the Rhetorical fallacy of "Common Occurence"

  182. mick - Aug 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM

    Now, if we do not start hitting tomorrow, there may be a deeper problem going on… what that is, i have no idea

  183. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    If the Nats blow the division, I wonder what that will do to their nascent, fragile new, fan base?Washington, unlike other cities, Demands a winner — (redskins excepted). That's the just the way it is.

  184. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Wow I hope nats win soon. It's getting ugly in here.

  185. mick - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    ugly game and worst of season, I hope this out of their system tomorrow

  186. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    W.O.D., if you watched LaRoche play 30 or so games last year with a bum shoulder, you would not be wishing for players to gut it out with an injury

  187. JaneB - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:00 AM

    Not panicking here. Crying a little. But not panicking. Hoping to see some life in the offense, still.

  188. ehay2k - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    William O has brought very little to this board as far as I can tell. His recent posts give me little incentive to review his older ones to look for something he may have written that is worthy of writing.

  189. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Is this Ebay guy the same guy who said we need to get rid of the hitting coach? I wonder how that guy's kids feel after reading that? Isn't that a personal attack on the poor hitting coach? What about saying the Nats are playing BAD baseball? How dare you attack our team's play,,,

  190. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Me thinks EHay is a bit overblown, oversensitive, overly crude, highly insulting, and a general Troll.

  191. blovy8 - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:02 AM

    what scares me is that Suzuki is having the best atbats

  192. NatsNut - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Boz is right. Right now this feels twice as painful as the winning feels nice.

  193. Swift Eagle - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Everyone's entitled to their opinion, by Desmond still doesn't look 100% to me, and that's with almost a week off…so I don't think he could have helped last weekend…

  194. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    If somebody is truly hurt, nobody should gut it out. Do you think that Desmond had that type of injury that ALR had last year? I don't. I think the team was being hyper-cautious and it might have cost them a game, but we will never know. They might have lost all three anyway.

  195. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    Ehay: YOu take this blogging, posting 'stuff' so seriously that you would even consider "looking up old posts' to get an "I gotcha" on another poster?Such a silly person. The Nats losing really brings out the negative in people — which is also silly.

  196. Fear and Ignorance - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:04 AM

    Verlander just gave up 9 hits and 7 ER in 1 2/3 IP. I guess they should shut him down, too!!!

  197. DJB - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    NatsFanJim,They lose the fan base. I chose to be a fan of baseball after a 15-year absence (Angelos having previously ruined my love of the game). I invested my time and emotion with this team. It's a grind. If we have a GM who doesn't think that is worth anything – who doesn't really want to win – why should I invest my energy in rooting for them. If they collapse, then Rizzo must be fired to restore baseball credibility to this town.

  198. Secret wasian man - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    Nats Jim I go to every skins game and have gone to at least 10 games a year for the nats including road games since they came to dc. And I don't live close. My point is i will never switch my allegiance away from any dc team. No matter how doom and gloom i might get.

  199. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    I had a problem with the whole attitude the last few days. Once again, this is a small sample and it may just be noise, but there seemed to be this feeling that it didn't matter that much because Strasburg was pitching on Tuesday and that was a sure win. That just doesn't exist in baseball. Bob Gibson broke Walter Johnson's record for ERA in 1968 on a defending World Champion, and Gibson only went 22-9.

  200. NatsFanJim - Aug 29, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    Why are we losing?Pitching staff is getting worn out.Suzuki is a waste.Zimm needs a shot.LaRoche looks like he needs his Ritalin.Desi isnt ready.Harper is a tantrum throwing .240 hitter whose owned by lefties.Espi is still hitting just .250.Great Player Lombo is a bench warmerHot player Shark is a bench warmerPower hitting Moore is a bench warmer.That's about it; should be enough. I'm shocked we ever got over 10 games over .500

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