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Qualifying offer for LaRoche, not Jackson

Nov 2, 2012, 11:17 PM EDT

The Nationals made a qualifying contract offer to Adam LaRoche before today's 5 p.m. deadline, but not to any of their other free agents, ensuring they would receive at least one draft pick as compensation should they lose the veteran first baseman.

LaRoche was given the one-year, $13.3 million offer all free agents are eligible to be offered under MLB's new compensation system, according to MLB.com and FoxSports.com. The 32-year-old can either accept the offer (which equates to the average salary of the top 125-paid players in the majors this season) and return to the Nationals for 2013 or decline the offer and seek a multi-year contract with any of baseball's 30 clubs.

If LaRoche (who has seven days to make a decision) declines the offer as expected, the Nationals would receive a compensatory draft pick (a "sandwich" pick between the first and second rounds) should he ultimately sign with another franchise this winter. That franchise would then lose its first-round draft pick (unless it's one of the top 10 picks) under a system installed under the new collective bargaining agreement that eliminated the oldRead more »

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  1. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    LeCroy– refresh my memory?

  2. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Add Nady as another FA

  3. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:58 AM

    Oh, you mean the guy who is getting a World Series ring? That he worked sooooo hard to earn???? ( oozing and dripping sarcasm)

  4. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    Yes, baseballswami, that one! I wonder if Brian Schneider is close to retirement because I think he only gets a Minor League deal.

  5. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:07 AM

    Add Todd Coffey and Adam Kennedy to the FA list

  6. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:10 AM

    @Swam: Matt LeCroy was a veteran catcher at the end of his career when he played here in 2009. He got in 39 games for Frank. Good-hit, no field catcher. Notable for one game at RFK when I think it was the Marlins stole six bases in one inning. Frank had to yank him during the inning. Both player and manager broke into tears after the game over the move. Class act. Paying his minor league managerial dues. Should be a big league manager some day.

  7. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    Make that 2006 for LeCroy's year here, not '09.

  8. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

    astros i believe and total eight bases.http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2006_05_25_houmlb_wasmlb_1

  9. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:17 AM

    Is anybody here at all interested in signing Jose Valverde as a FA addition to our 'pen?Considering how he lost it at the end of the season, we could probably get him relatively cheaply.Anybody think he has anything left in the tank?

  10. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    Castellanos is another player who started as a an infielder and a 3rd baseman and got moved to the outfield to make a spot for him.

  11. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:19 AM

    No to Papa Grande. Head case.

  12. NatsLady - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 AM

    BASERUNNINGSB: Ensberg (1, 2nd base off Rauch/LeCroy), Bruntlett 2 (2, 2nd base off Armas/LeCroy, 3rd base off Armas/LeCroy), Taveras (6, 2nd base off Rivera, S/LeCroy), Wilson 2 (5, 2nd base off Armas/LeCroy, 3rd base off Armas/LeCroy), Burke (3, 2nd base off Rivera, S/LeCroy).FIELDINGE: LeCroy 2 (3, throw, throw).Wow, that is what I call a BAD day at the office.

  13. MicheleS - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    Swami. Lecroy.. frank pulled him mid at bat and cried afterwards

  14. NatsLady - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    It being the Astros, the Nats won the game (8-5)…

  15. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:22 AM

    No to Papa Grande

  16. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:31 AM

    Goodwin was robbed.

  17. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    Thanks, Faraz, I think it was eight for the game. But I don't think they were all in the same inning. I was at the game, got the scorebook at home (I'm at work now). I'd forgotten about LeCroy's two throwing errors as well. It was a diaster. Somehow the Nats hung on to win the game. But it came at a psychic cost.

  18. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:36 AM

    Now I remember LeCroy! No to Valverde- can you imagine that celebration fitting in here? And Goodwin got totally, completely robbed by Hamilton. Think that might happen a few more times in the future?

  19. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:44 AM

    Nats pitcher alert! Barrett. First pitch strike- second pitch hard hit, but scored an error.

  20. NatsLady - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:47 AM

    Well. That was fast. Is Tony LaRussa managing the East?

  21. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:49 AM

    He got two batters, one re- scored a hit, one strike out. The hit bounced off the third baseman and was originally an error. Next pitcher totally blows it.

  22. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:53 AM

    And they should have kept Barrett in the game. The Cub is getting shelled.

  23. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:16 AM

    Goodwin!!I do believe we have our center fielder of the future.

  24. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:17 AM

    Goodwin trying to win the MVP. Impressive LH on LH hit.

  25. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:23 AM

    Rendon sighting!

  26. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:35 AM

    Goodwin has a nice compact swing and generates a lot of pop. Rizzo has to be pleased to see that.Rendon with an upper cut swing. Didn't like that.

  27. Steady Eddie - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:42 AM

    And Miguel Batista. And Chad Durbin. And Todd Coffey. The ex-Nats FAs march on.

  28. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:46 AM

    so great to see the Nats of 2005-2010 (Schneider Kearns, Coffey, Nyjer, Coffey et al) scrawling across the bottom of the screen, all looking for work. Meanwhile, Goodwin is trying to win the MVP of this game … and fight is way on a talent-filled roster for '12.I'll come right out and say it: The 2012 Washington Nationals are loaded. LOAD-ED!.The best 25 (and Kristina) come North!

  29. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:47 AM

    Agreed. Goodwin with a nice looking swing, Rendon maybe trying to go yard? Barrett small sample size but fine. Keep the prospects coming!

  30. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:47 AM

    Oh- nice defense by both Goidwin and Rendon.

  31. Steady Eddie - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:49 AM

    Never mind, Steve already got Coffey time.Getting late, thought the screen crawl was one of those scuzzy box elder bugs that were invading our house before Sandy.

  32. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:50 AM

    Wasn't Endy Chavez once a Nat? Also Brian Bruney

  33. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:56 AM

    Goodwin finishes a nice 2-5 with the HR and double.

  34. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM

    Yes, Endy Chávez was an original 2005 Nat.

  35. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:58 AM

    @Gonat. Both were. Chavez was the putz who wouldn't bunt in the leadoff slot for Frank. Bruney left here in a huff, and has flat-lined since. Meh to both.

  36. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:59 AM

    Bruney was one of Rizzo's best DFAs however he put us through a couple of extra weeks of misery watching him. It was a painful few weeks and worse than watching Lidge.

  37. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:03 AM

    I just looked up Endy Chavez. Played 7 games for the Nats in 2005 and in May 2005 was traded to Philly for Marlon Byrd.Endy must've really pissed Frank Robby off!

  38. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:31 AM

    Add Matt Capps and Joel Peralta as FAs

  39. D'Gourds - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:39 AM

    That's a triple negative statement!

  40. D'Gourds - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:42 AM

    That's a triple negative statement!

  41. Jim Webster - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:58 AM

    Swami, NatsLady Sunshine: LeCroy game at RFK gave rise to the chant, "We want Fick."

  42. natsfan1a - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Fell asleep before the end of the game (just as Barrett came on), so will have to watch the DVR on the rest of it.Also on a LeCroy note, I don't recall that he cried afterwards (although Frank did). Matt later said something like, "Heck, my own daddy would have pulled me from that game."And I liked Marlon Byrd.

  43. BIGNAT33 - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Has anyone seen any medical updates on Wilson Ramos? Is he supposed to be ready by spring training?

  44. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    BigNat33, http://www.masnsports.com/nationals_pastime/2012/10/what-a-healthy-wilson-ramos-would-mean-for-kurt-suzuki.htmlRamos is walking without crutches and won't be playing Winter Ball as he will be staying in Washington to rehab here.

  45. BIGNAT33 - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Thanks Gonat. I guess Flores is trade bait then; probably a throw-in if a package deal is made.

  46. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    BIGNAT33 said… Thanks Gonat. I guess Flores is trade bait then; probably a throw-in if a package deal is made. November 04, 2012 7:15 AM _______________________________You would think but some are also saying there's a chance he could be non-tendered as he is a arbitration eligible player.Flores is a very capable back-up catcher but I think his stock went down as he wasn't performing as well playing almost every day as the #1 catcher. In his defense, he was playing hurt but teams may just look at this slash (.213BA .248OBP .329SLG .577OPS) and not offer anything much in trade. Does Rizzo really want to be on the hook for a contract if he is only going to receive a Cutter Dykstra type in return?

  47. fast eddie - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    I read that Rizzo went after Jacoby Ellsbury last season and may try again this winter. He's a FA after 2013. That would solve our CF/lead-off problem. Could he be had for Morse and Lombo? A trade for Price is unlikely and would cost too much. What about Dempster as our #5 starter? He went 12-8 last year with 3.38 ERA. The Cubs and Blue Jays have shown interest. We could sign him for two years at less than EJax got.

  48. MicheleS - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Fast Eddie, Saw that in the post about Ellsbury. Holy Poop! Rizzo was going for it (again, never playing poker with Rizzo). Not sure if ellsbury will leave after 2013, he is too good and since BOS ditched Bobby, he may be content to stay with the new manager.Dempster could be a stop gap until Meyer is ready so that could be an option. I also heard that Demp might want to go to LA with Ted Lilly (best buds from Cub Days).

  49. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    fast eddie, I think with the emergence of Bryce Harper as a legit CF, there's no longer the panic for a CF.I'm not annointing Brian Goodwin as a future superstar, but did you see him play last night? He hit a HR, a double off of a lefty, and hit a would-be triple but was robbed by the Reds speedster.

  50. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Peric, I saw on your post about the Adam Dunn comp pick and it was actually comp picks that resulted in both Alex Meyer and Brian Goodwin.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/the-nationals-draft-haul-for-losing-adam-dunn/2011/04/14/AFxhXZdD_blog.html

  51. NatsJack in Florida - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Gonat… do not underestimate the value of a relatively young, controllable catcher with at least some Major League pedigree. And also remeber, it was Davey that suggested Flores as a rule 5 guy to Bowden when he was dok for the Nats.ing early consulting wor

  52. NatsJack in Florida - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    doing early consulting work for Bowden.

  53. Theophilus T. S. - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Swami — Matt LeCroy — backup catcher from the Paleozoic Nats era infamously removed by Frank Robinson in the middle of an inning after allowing a half dozen or so of the enemy to steal second; after release, manager of Hagerstown and now Harrisburg; proof of emotional scaring after removing players (one each at Hagerstown and Harrisburg) after taking the field in the bottom of the inning when they failed to run out ground balls. Most notable accomplishments as a player were as a catcher and DH w/ the Twins. Highly spoken of as a manager and teacher though I don't see humiliating players as a BFOQ.

  54. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… Gonat… do not underestimate the value of a relatively young, controllable catcher with at least some Major League pedigree. And also remeber, it was Davey that suggested Flores as a rule 5 guy to Bowden when he was dok for the Nats.ing early consulting wor November 04, 2012 8:31 AM ___________________________________I just think it could go either way. If Rizzo thinks he will definitely get a team's Top 20 prospect I'm sure he will do it but to receive a Cutter Dykstra type, why bother.I think it will be interesting to see what happens.

  55. NatsJack in Florida - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    What I'm saying is that until Wilson Ramos's status is determined, Flores won't be going anywhere. And that probably won't occur until after pitchers and catchers report.It will be alot easier to ascertain roster needs and other teams desperation at that time.Flores will still be a relatively cheap solution for somebody, including the Nats.

  56. Theophilus T. S. - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Gonat from last night — Marlon Byrd was as much of a lemon as Chavez. The Nats cut him because Frank Robinson, the career .300 hitter, 500 HR guy and HOFer, was trying to improve Byrd's batting and he wouldn't listen.

  57. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… What I'm saying is that until Wilson Ramos's status is determined, Flores won't be going anywhere. And that probably won't occur until after pitchers and catchers report.It will be alot easier to ascertain roster needs and other teams desperation at that time.Flores will still be a relatively cheap solution for somebody, including the Nats. November 04, 2012 8:51 AM _____________________________________What you say makes sense but they still have Solano and Leon under team control as able backups with Minor League options.

  58. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    Theo, thanks for the background on Byrd. I didn't realize all that transpired between him and Cranky Franky.

  59. Joe Seamhead - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Byrd has improved as an outfielder since leaving, but he was awful when he played here. He drove me nuts with his running in on balls that ended up over his head. He was worse then Lasting Milledge and Nyjer in that respect.

  60. c715e5d6-9d22-11e1-a89a-000f20980440 - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Following up on yesterday's posts regarding bat size and speed, let me recommend Chapter 6 of The Physics of Baseball (3rd Ed). The first section of the chapter, which includes the summary of an actual field experiment on the subject, is entitled "The Optimum Bat Weight." Do not be intimidated by the title of the book: it is written so that the narrative results, readable by mere mortals like me, are in the first part of each chapter. The heavy math is in each second part.The book also covers such pitching subjects as curves and knuckleballs, and addresses how far can a ball be hit under the best conditions (and separately for Denver).ArVAFan

  61. Section 222 - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    I don't the hating on Marlon Byrd is justified, and to compare him to Lastings Millege is libelous. He certainly was not and never will be a superstar, but he's had a very decent career since he left the Nats. Don't forget he made the ASG in 2010. He's well on the way down now for sure (age 35), but he always played hard here. I remember one great diving catch racing in and toward the left field line. The guy had no fear.

  62. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    NatsLady, I have followed cricket before I became a fan of baseball. In cricket, players trying to hit for power always used heavier bats. I am assuming it is the same principle here. Heavier bats (more mass leads to more force) lead to more power than lighter bats. Lighter bats are better suited to get hits since they increase bat speed. That's what I understood.I bet Giancarlo uses a heavier bat.Also I wonder long time use of heavier bat affects bat speed over a player's career.

  63. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Faraz, I would love to see the physics of length of bat, weight of bat, impact points, flex & whip on bat, etc.I always thought Wilson Ramos swung a light bat as it looks like a toothpick in his hands and it seemed he needed a bigger bat like Morse uses.

  64. Gonat - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/physics/4216783Physics of the HR and very cool – Ryan Zimmerman!

  65. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Good read. Thanks, Gonat. sweet spot is more like sweet zone I guess. Frazier (or was it Ludwick) proved it past summer when he hit a broken bat home run.

  66. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    WOW there is a lot of stuff written on this topic.

  67. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

    When you go to the Louisville Slugger factory they have a fact sheet they use on the physics of hitting a baseball. Fascinating.

  68. Theophilus T. S. - Nov 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    Does this raise the question whether Babe Ruth would have hit more HRs if he had paid attention in physics class at St. Mary's Industrial School for Boys?

  69. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Very likely, Theo. That and had he started his career as a hitter only.I am already tired of Nationals and Bourn rumors.

  70. NatsJack in Florida - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    Said it last week, I'll say it this week. As an organization, starting at the very top….the Redskins STINK!

  71. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:14 PM

    The Redskins sure are exciting when they lose!

  72. Theophilus T. S. - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    A couple of the Redskins will be lucky if they're allowed back in the locker room.

  73. MicheleS - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    The only thing good about football season (since I can't see my Bears play) is the fact that we don't have to watch election coverage. Tuesday cannot come fast enough.

  74. baseballswami - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    I am predicting that all of the election commercials will be immediately replaced with Christmas commercials.

  75. natsfan1a - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    They've had Christmas stuff in the stores since before Halloween. Le Sigh.

  76. MicheleS - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:37 AM

    These commercials ALMOST make me miss the creepy WB Mason guy.

  77. Joe Seamhead - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    Kyle Shanahan's play calling is turning the young superstar into RG3 & out.

  78. Ghost Of Steve M. - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:16 AM

    The Redskins remind me of the 2007 Nats. 1 superstar and in need of many more good players.

  79. peric - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:05 AM

    Unless a miracle occurs, as long as Snyder is running that franchise they will be terrible. I can't believe the guy actually had the temerity to run down Joe Gibbs, the only head coach to give him a winning season outside of the last Norv Turner year. And Gibbs gave him two!Snyder is a complete and total moron and shouldn't be placed in charge of a dumpster much less a professional sports team._______________________________________________________________________"Said it last week, I'll say it this week. As an organization, starting at the very top….the Redskins STINK!"_______________________________________________________________________

  80. SonnyG10 - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:11 AM

    Yup, that's why I'm no longer a STH of the Redskins!

  81. fast eddie - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:43 AM

    So, as the Deadskins continue their slide to the bottom under The Danny's leadership, can we expect the Nats' fan base to grow as the disenchanted search for another outlet?

  82. baseballswami - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:45 AM

    And there is not going to be hockey this year : ( The Nats may be the only game in town worth following by spring.

  83. DJB - Nov 5, 2012 at 2:55 AM

    Bourne is a definite no go. We need Price. I think a deal that includes Espinosa, Rendon, and maybe even Morse gets it done. Bats basically kept the Rays out of the playoffs. Espinosa is a strike-out machine, and I don't see it getting better.

  84. baseballswami - Nov 5, 2012 at 3:20 AM

    I watched the Wilson Defensive Player of the Year awards. One player per team – the best defensive player. Ours was ALR – no shock there. Then they named the best defensive player in the AL and NL — the NL was — Bourne. Really. Okay then…In the entire National League?

  85. natsfan1a - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    The Nats are already the only game in town I follow, so I'm good there. :-) Thanks for the info on the Wilson awards show. (Go, ALR!)baseballswami said… And there is not going to be hockey this year : ( The Nats may be the only game in town worth following by spring. November 04, 2012 9:45 PM

  86. Faraz Shaikh - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    actually bourn was very good last season according to advanced metrics. might have been best.

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