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Game 59: Mets at Nats

Jun 5, 2013, 7:33 PM EDT

Photo by Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

Can one ninth-inning rally carry over to the next night and create long-term momentum for a struggling ballclub? The Nationals certainly hope so, though you all know the adage by now: Momentum is only as good as your next day's starting pitcher. So the Nats will need Dan Haren to come through with a strong performance tonight against the Mets.

But they'll also hope to string some more hits together, with a lineup that tonight will include Anthony Rendon making his first big-league start (and only ninth career professional start) at second base. All the Steve Lombardozzi fans out there need not worry: Lombo is scheduled to start in left field tonight, so he's not being cast aside to the bench 24 hours after driving in the game-winning run last night.

Meanwhile, Stephen Strasburg and Ross Detwiler are each supposed to throw bullpen sessions this afternoon, after which the Nationals will determine when each injured starter will be ready to return to the mound. So stay tuned for updates there, and right back here for game updates throughout…

NEW YORK METS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 183
Weather: Clear, 77 degrees, Wind 10 mphRF to LF

NATIONALS (29-29)
CF Denard Span
RF Jayson Werth
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche

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405 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please, let Det and Stras be ok!!! I was a bit worried last night when I watched all of the dinged up guys jumping the rail. I was afraid one of them would get hurt in the dog pile.

  2. BigCat - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Ok Haren, lets keep the ball rolling.

  3. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Would begging help?

  4. SCNatsFan - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Jesus Flores signs a minor league deal with Rays

  5. Kirbs - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    I like this line-up…let's keep the ball down DAN!

  6. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Dave Cameron at Fangraphs with some interesting perspective on the Rendon switch to 2B. Particularly interesting is the noticeable improvement of other 2Bs who started out as 3Bs – – Neil Walker, Matt Carpenter, Daniel Murphy.

  7. Steady Eddie - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    “@ZuckermanCSN: Detwiler's done with what looked like roughly 2 simulated innings in bullpen. Still no sign of Strasburg, who was scheduled to throw today.”

  8. Tcostant - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Why isn't this a bigger deal? I had to hear about this from my wife who hear about it on a non-sports channel. How sad that something that happen at the beltway series is so ignored:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/fan-seriously-injured-assault-wednesday-nationals-orioles-game-191014581.html

  9. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    I'm really ready for D-Span to start trending his OBP up instead spiraling down like it has been.

  10. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Some of us were discussing it on the weekend. O's fans from Annapolis. Got arrested. Real classy.

  11. Steady Eddie - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    “@ZuckermanCSN: Strasburg in bullpen now preparing to throw for first time since leaving Friday's start with lat strain.”Mark seems to be first on the case today…

  12. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Don't know how you missed it Tcostant. It was certainly discussed here.

  13. phil dunton - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Werth was better in the lead-off spot than Span. Span's OBP is disappointing, as is his base running/stealing.

  14. Tcostant - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    I must have miss it – sorry. I've been to over 25 staduims over the years and never have been treated like that. Maybe a little good natured back and forth. Just scary.

  15. JD - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Here is the Biogenesys deal as I see it:Tony Bosch figured he is probably in the clear until baseball sued Biogenesys. This wasn't going to put him in jail because it's not a criminal charge but it was going to put a large hole in his pocket book based on large lawyer bills.Tony decided to play ball with MLB in order to rid himself of the legal costs and Baseball is dying to prove that it has turned the page and wants to rid the game of drugs (they are particularly interested in nailing a big fish like ARod and/or Braun).The union and their lawyers will go hard after Bosch's credibility and they will appeal all the suspensions so unless Baseball has corroborating evidence this is not over by a long shot.

  16. JD - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    As far as Gio is concerned. I like the guy a lot both as a character and a player and I love his compete level but I have a really hard time buying the notion that a baseball player buys legal supplements from Tony Bosch. GNC would be a more reasonable destination.

  17. Tcostant - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:03 PM

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  18. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Re: Mark's latest tweet on Stras: Ruh roh. DL here we come.

  19. Janus - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Hey folks, if you want to get your blood in a boil over arrogant umpires give this a quick read/watch: http://www.lobshots.com/2013/06/01/gum-throwing-umpire-jordan-baker-has-no-respect-for-baseball/The updates linked at the bottom of that site are worth reading too.It was enough to get me to send an email:majorleagueumpires@majorleagueumpires.comNow I'm just sitting back waiting for my pesonal apology from the umpires union.

  20. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    Great link Janus, thanks. This guy is a piece of work. Right at home on Angel's crew.

  21. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    Section222– I thought the same thing. Did not even throw a pitch. Must be bad if he told the truth about it. Now we wait to hear how Det feels.

  22. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    NatsJack, more troubling than Span's OBP is his poor baserunning. With the caught stealing, pickoffs and doubleplays on balls in the air he is in the .290s. He has to draw walks and never upper cut on a swing. Span doesn't have 1 flyball hit all year only balls in the air categorized as line drives.

  23. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Mark posted his game post yesterday at 3:33. By this time (4:20 pm), the big news had broken and there were over 75 comments on the post.

  24. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    I am hoping that DSpan just needs some time to get used to the completely different pitchers. He is money in the outfield, though.

  25. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Byron Kerr- Stras to the DL. Rats.

  26. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Yep, Sheesh

  27. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    And Detwiler???

  28. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    This is becoming a minor league exhibition month. And there is so much pressure because the Braves don't seem to lose and the Phils are playing the Marlins.

  29. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Ghost….I prefer to address the problems in order. His OBP has gone from the .360's to the .3teens. Start getting on base, then correct the base running issue.

  30. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Det threw the equivalent of 2 innings. Now they wait to see how he feels.

  31. JD - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Swami, Not surprised. And if it's back dated he only has to miss a couple more starts. You don't want him to hurt his arm because he is favoring his side. If Det is ready he and Stammen can work Saturday. I am concerned a bit about Karns and his tendency to give up the long ball. I am not convinced he's ready but it is what it is.

  32. MicheleS - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    Well hopefully Stras is only down until the 15th. I wonder who will take his spot? Tweets are saying AAA call up.

  33. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Apparently Det is feeling ok and will make a start in the minors. Saturday either Stammen or a call up.

  34. JD - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    NatsJack, You are correct. Span's entire offensive value revolves around getting on base often. I don't think we'll ever see a robust running game as long as Davie is running this team but Ghost is also correct in that Span hasn't been a good base runner and that is really surprising to me.

  35. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    And I am glad that Stras is being honest and prudent about this. We need him for the rest of the season. When we make our big run. You know, when everyone is back. Whenever that is. Muscles in sides and backs are nasty little things. Boo.

  36. Steady Eddie - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    I frankly suspect that the team expected Stras would need to go to the DL the whole time, but given his reaction in the dugout after they pulled him, they were going to be very careful to take it one incremental step at a time. That way they would minimize the risk that he would do anything physical that could set him back, while respecting his, let's just say competitive, youthful, and somewhat rash determination to get back out there immediately.Am sure also that they've been doing this in close coordination with Boras, whose long-term financial self-interest here coincides with Stras', even if Stras is too young and headstrong to get it. So the idea that some have raised here, that Stras will bolt to another team as soon as he becomes a free agent, is both premature and nonsense as far as what Boras or most other agents would advise (from the standpoint of long-term player development practice).

  37. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    On my timeline, looks like Byron Kerr won the "first tweet about Strasburg to DL Derby" by a whisker over Adam Kilgore, Mark Zuckerman, and Amanda Comak in that order. Congrats Byron.

  38. waddu eye no - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    janus – thanksbut look both ways before crossing an umppadum pum.gyfng

  39. Caps Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Kristina Akra may not be as hot as Julie Alexandria, but she just scooped her by announcing on MLB Network that Strasburg is headed to the DL.

  40. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    Random question– do the umps get random drug testing? Maybe some roid rage???

  41. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Ohlendorf and Young doesn't have options but Rosenbaum does.

  42. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

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  43. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    From the twitter feed:"Rizzo says Espinosa had MRI on wrist and shoulder today. Club isn't announcing results yet."Very curious about this, particularly the shoulder.

  44. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    It's really fun to watch the new guys– but then there is that pesky needing to win thing going on also. Can we have both?? Am I correct that we no longer have anyone just sitting out day to dsy? So we have a full bench and pen?? Werth is back now- first of the group. Bryce next?? Please say yes!

  45. Janus - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    I know umps get away with basically whatever they want, but really this shocked me. Maybe it shouldn't have.To anyone that doesnn't care or have time to visit the link:This umpire, Jordan Baker, would take a rather large (large enough to be photographed from the stands) hunk of gum out of his mouth every half-inning and chuck it into left field. There is a photo showing about 20 such hunks on the field.When fans raged at him, he went and had a laugh with Angel Hernandez who then took HIS gum out and chucked it in the direction of the jeering fans. On top of that, he seems to be making terrible calls and throwing people out left and right.It seems at this point the TV announcers have gotten in on the act and were calling Baker out on his gum antics last night.

  46. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Another random question– what is the status of our forty man roster with two guys getting dfa'd? That mean two spots open?

  47. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    NatsJack, still has to do both and anything below .340 concerns me. He has to take those 3-2 counts and work some walks, make parallel swings and stay on base when he gets there.

  48. Caps Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    So Strasburg is going on the DL. Did he clean out his locker?

  49. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Swami, no they added Krol. At 39.

  50. Caps Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    "baseballswami said… Another random question– what is the status of our forty man roster with two guys getting dfa'd? That mean two spots open?"Yes. Although that may not be official until the fate of the DFA guys is determined.

  51. phil dunton - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Re: The Yankee fan at the O's game–confronting two likely drunk hecklers is butt stupid and just asking for trouble. I was confronted by a large, very drunk young Phillies fan about 3 years ago in one of the Nats parking lots after a Phillies victory. The animal got in my face and yelled "Great game, huh." It was obvious he was baiting me. I looked him right in the eye and said "I really like the Phillies team and wish the Nationals played like them". At first he was shocked, then he slapped me on the back and said "Thanks buddy". I could live for another day. Going to any sports game nowdays and wearing a hated team's sports garb is risky business.

  52. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    How did Julie A get scooped by Kristina A? She's not on the air until 6:30 pm, but she tweeted the news at 4:29, just four minutes after Mark and the other beats did. Kristina's doing a great job on MLB Now, but she's not at the park.

  53. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Phil, way to diffuse it. I wear a Nats cap to all stadiums even when Nats aren't playing much like that Yankees fan. Never a problem. People engage me in intelligent conversations.

  54. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 2mOhlendorf to replace Strasburg on #Nationals’ roster. Nats need starter for Saturday.

  55. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    There you go. If he doesn't move to long man in the pen the Nats can lose him when Det and Stras come back.

  56. EmDash - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Looks like Ohlendorf is the guy. Should be an okay option for one start, I guess.Karns is a bit home-run prone in the majors, which is a bit funny because avoiding them was one of his strengths in the minors. He probably needs more seasoning in AA/AAA before he's ready to be up permanently, but he's certainly been promising so far and could develop into at least a lights-out reliever in the Stammen mode if starting doesn't work out.

  57. EmDash - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Current DL list: Detwiler, Espinosa, Harper, Mattheus, Ramos, Strasburg. Plus two players released. Plus Werth and Zimm have spent time on the DL. That's 10 of the opening day roster, or 40%, who've been injured or terribly ineffective enough to be released. Kind of boggles the mind.

  58. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    I thought we were snake bit last year, but our starters stayed healthy. Only needed Lannan for double headers and we played piggy back with Wang and Det a bit. It's just a shame there is so much pressure- some of it by us fans– on this team to produce the same way the ideal roster might be performing. Bench just not quite stepping up as early as they did last year, pen not quite so effective, couple starters down. Doesn't take much to get off track. As long as we can stay around .500 maybe we can make a run in the second half.

  59. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Karns needs to work on his location… He's got the stuff but he sometimes serves it up and gofers it…

  60. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    I'm glad that the Nats went with Ohlendorf instead of moving Stammen to the starters role.

  61. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Think they want to save Stammen for Karns start…. He seemingly can only go 80/85… And Stammen has been throwing the serious heat, they may want to save him.. At least that's what I'm thinking….

  62. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Win number 2 in a row tonight.

  63. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    But in all fairness, Karns came up from AA , unexpectedly. Of course he is going to have flaws and struggles. This could be a great thing for him- show him what he needs to do and encourage him that he is not so far away. As a fan I need to chill, watch the guys play, enjoy the new guys and stop stressing about the standings. Stuff has happened that changed our situation. I need to adjust my expectations. I still think we can have a great second half.

  64. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Johnny Cueto is already back on the DL with another lat strain. He had been back for 4 starts. Jeez.

  65. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    I am telling you– lats and obliques are nasty to get rid of. Matt Kemp and Hanley Ramirez have both dealt with lingering hamstring issues. You have got to let them heal or you are a yo- yo to the DL.

  66. JD - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    Swami, I couldn't agree with you more. For the time being I just want us to start winning series regularly and play better ball and the good news is that there are still 23 games left in the 1st half so there's lots of time and lots of baseball to enjoy.

  67. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Will take Kristina over Julie old town any day of the week. Am glad no Valdespin, that guy kills us but would expect a pinch hit appearance.Anyone else expecting a high & tight fastball to Rzim's melon after last night? Don't think Jordan did that on purpose but the guy does have amazing control, just saying.

  68. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Win ever series and you are in the playoff.

  69. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP 2mOne evaluator on Ohlendorf: "Max effort. Lots of moving parts in windup. Stuff is decent with spotty command and control."Let's hope he has his good command then…

  70. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    Valdespin average against rest of league. 225. Against us .500

  71. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    Uh oh. Dillon Gee went 7 1/3 and stroke out 12 against the Yankees in his last start. Let's hope that was a fluke.

  72. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:37 PM

    MNF, wow re. Valdespin, didn't know he was that good vs. us. Odd that he's not starting but not complaining.

  73. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    https://twitter.com/masnKolko/status/342410426925076480/photo/1Something's on fire I guess?

  74. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    Danny is burning his locker contents.

  75. ptindc - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Just saw the skipper on MASN. Beard is shaved. Must have been the walk off last night.

  76. ptindc - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    Just saw the skipper on MASN. Beard is shaved. Must have been the walk off last night.

  77. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    I saw that Clip has some facial hair. Kind of scruffy , though.

  78. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    "So Strasburg is going on the DL. Did he clean out his locker?"Why does this keep coming up about the locker? Rizzo confirmed in comments that aired on 106.7 yesterday at ~5:15 p.m. that Espi is going to AAA after the DL. Hence the cleaned out locker.

  79. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    As of yesterday, everyone was curious about the locker issue before the whole story came out. It initially looked like an option to AAA because of that. Also reports were that it was done on anger, guys don't clean out their lockers for the DL. And everyone rehabs in the minors.

  80. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    "Phil, way to diffuse it. I wear a Nats cap to all stadiums even when Nats aren't playing much like that Yankees fan. Never a problem. People engage me in intelligent conversations."At the Os game (JZimm start) I saw a group of guys, one in Is garb, one in Brave a garb, and one in a Pacers jersey and a Yankees cap.B'gock?!

  81. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Eric….some people always want things to be more than it is.

  82. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Sooooo….. I wonder which D Haren will show up… I sure hope its the good one..

  83. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    "And everyone rehabs in the minors."I think you may be confused. Rizzo strongly implied that Espinosa will be optioned to AAA even after he is healthy to spend some time to get his mechanics right. Not just a rehab assignment.

  84. natsfan1a - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Confrontation is risky, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the guy was asking for it. Also, I suspect that this could happen at any park, with any fanbase. As my dear departed grandpa-in-law often said, I might have told you this before, but it's worth telling again. I was once at an O's/Nats game at RFK. There were some unruly, over-imbibing Nats fans seated a few rows over and down from us, in the upper deck. They were giving the fish eye to some O's fans (who were doing nothing offensive, just sporting O's gear) for several innings. The O's fans included a young boy, btw. This got no response, so the Nats fans decided to up their game and start throwing stuff, including beverage containers, at the O's fans. I went to the top of our section and told an usher about it (we didn't have texting and Tweetering back then, kiddies, but I digress). After a while, she went over and said something to the Nats fans, and they stopped.I've also saw a similar event at Nats Park, that time involving unruly, over-imbibing Phillies Phans who threw popcorn on a young Nats fan. (Stay classy, Phillies Phans. But I digress.)I don't care who is behaving in such a manner, or where they're doing it. There's no room for it, and no excuse for it. Just another natsfan1a editorial.phil dunton said… Re: The Yankee fan at the O's game–confronting two likely drunk hecklers is butt stupid and just asking for trouble. I was confronted by a large, very drunk young Phillies fan about 3 years ago in one of the Nats parking lots after a Phillies victory. The animal got in my face and yelled "Great game, huh." It was obvious he was baiting me. I looked him right in the eye and said "I really like the Phillies team and wish the Nationals played like them". At first he was shocked, then he slapped me on the back and said "Thanks buddy". I could live for another day. Going to any sports game nowdays and wearing a hated team's sports garb is risky business. June 05, 2013 4:53 PM

  85. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Watching the P-Nats on my tablet. Robbie Ray pitchinh in Myrtle Beach.

  86. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Is Cy Gee pitching tonight? Or is it Dillon Gee?

  87. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    So how long until Rendon gets a ball to him at 2B? I give it 2 outs.

  88. natsfan1a - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Boy, that was a long comment, and I didn't even mention the unruly (but apparently not under the influence judging by his breath) O's fan who "accidentally" bumped into me, several times, on the ramp after a recent O's game at Nats Park, then apologized in a rather Eddie Haskellian manner. And now I've dated myself, too.Er, on topic, hope that Dan has another good start in him. May the Nats bats hit early and often, and may the Mets bats flail with futility. May our defense not falter. May we score more runs than the opposing team. Oh, and nobody should get hurt. Okay, that should about cover it. I'm good.

  89. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Only took one out.

  90. Gonat - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    The Rendon era just started. The ball found him!

  91. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Fielding pct 1.000 at second

  92. natsfan1a - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    I believe that his specialty against us is pinch-hit home runs.paul brandt said… MNF, wow re. Valdespin, didn't know he was that good vs. us. Odd that he's not starting but not complaining. June 05, 2013 6:37 PM

  93. natsfan1a - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Oh, wait. The game's on. See you later.

  94. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    "So how long until Rendon gets a ball to him at 2B? I give it 2 outs."Funny now!

  95. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    I so called it earlier today that the first out would go to Rendon at second!! Mrs. B – you around?? Monday night's classic– Jhonny Holliday called the walk off– last night also. Coincidence?

  96. Eric - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Look at Lombo yielding to Span. Seam head would be proud 😉

  97. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Right there was the difference between Tyler and Lombo in LF. Lombo got out of Span's way.

  98. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    2 balls to Rendon, no problem yet. But like FP said, it'll be the double plays and things like that that present the real challenge.

  99. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Welcome (back) to the show Rendon!

  100. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    2 for 2. Baseball god at work.

  101. Nats 128 - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Now officially the know it all Peric is proven wrong on his one guarantee that RENDON WILL NEVER PLAY 2ND BASE FOR THE NATS.Yeah, never is a long time! Back to the game as Im here typing on my phone.

  102. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Hahahaha… Swami, I made mention of that last night…. Or was it this morning…I'm predicting a 7-3 win tonight!

  103. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Marlon Byrd looked absolutely lost.

  104. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Get your expectations in check about Mr. Rendon. He will make errors. If you don't think so you aren't being realistic.

  105. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Now that's what a leadoff man does.

  106. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Luck helps! There you go Denard! Make your own luck!

  107. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    It would just be so sweet if we could score early and often.

  108. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    I love Span the man….

  109. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    I think most people here are being tongue in cheek about him fielding 1.000 so far.

  110. JaneB - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    There you go NatsJack! Double from Span!

  111. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Ghost….he made 2 errors in his 3 games at Syracuse.

  112. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    7-3 sounds right

  113. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Tonight?

  114. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Werth's job in that spot is to drive the ball to rightfield. Doesn't do his job. Come on guys. Runs are at a premium!

  115. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    I know he will make errors. Good to have easy ones to start.

  116. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Duda- the Mets mirror version of Tyler Moore in the OF.

  117. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Werth fit in with others with the hit to center.

  118. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    There is where not advance runner hurts. Now ALR has to bail out Werth

  119. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… Ghost….he made 2 errors in his 3 games at Syracuse. June 05, 2013 7:17 PM After each error there were some comments made here to try to make some point. I guess Rizzo wasn't too concerned.

  120. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Thataboy Desi!

  121. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Oh Desi!

  122. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Desi bails out Werth

  123. JaneB - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Ian!

  124. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Yesssss… Score often!

  125. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Desi picks up Werth and RZim. Very nice. Keep that line moving!

  126. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Woah, the rookie hitting on 3-0. Ballsy.

  127. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Rendon got green light 3-0. Hit hard just wrong spot

  128. JaneB - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Anthony. 3-0 you don't swing. Plus it was outside. Sheesh.

  129. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Not sure I want him swinging on 3-0…

  130. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    The Exorcist showed up last night, We're ok! 1-0 Nats. GYFNG!!!

  131. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Sorry, 3-0 where you have the pitcher breathing hard and you have the new callup swing?Bad idea although nice wood on it but unlucky BABIP.

  132. EmDash - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Early run – love it.Good god is Dillon Gee slow, though. I already hate watching him pitch.

  133. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    How many balls have gotten between LaRoche and the line lately? It's not for lack of effort, he's diving, but I don't get it. Is it just unlucky?

  134. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Ghost, you're right. No excuse for 3-0 swing.Me? I'm optimistic. Imagine that. GYFNG!

  135. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Grrrrr. Double with no outs. Jhonny Holiday again. Please can we have Bob and FP together again?

  136. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Wtf Haren?

  137. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Terrible….

  138. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    This is soooo not good. No outs. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

  139. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Bah, humbug…

  140. EmDash - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Oof. That really did not look like it was going to get out. One of those ball carrying kind of days?

  141. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    That is 3 down the line in the last 9 innings. Our scouting report has not be solid to where to place ALR as none have gone to right, so he seems to be feet left. Haren up to same trick of homers. Of course it would have been a solo, but ALR not placed correctly based on wear they are hitting.

  142. Knoxville Nat - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Yes, unlucky. The last couple have been hit rather hard though.

  143. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Haren is leaving everything up. You know what that means…

  144. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    Now they hit to his right, but are always singles.

  145. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    LaRoche's gold glove must have some holes in it.

  146. EmDash - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Stuff is staying up = not good Haren.

  147. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Haren getting shelled early. Need to get three and go see McCatty for a chat. Haren is now our third best starter- since we really only have three now. Ok- I am summoning a slugfest. We win 12-11.

  148. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    All the mo from last night and the first inning can vanish in no time when the pitcher lraves balls up.

  149. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    I was just going to say…..yep, Dan….keep throwong strikes up in the zone. That always works.

  150. phil dunton - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Haren makes Edwin Jackson's performance last season look good.

  151. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Might as well hae Duke or HROD pitch if you are going to keep ball up.

  152. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    I think the issue is that I don't really like Haren….

  153. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    The bat boy humor is a new twist.

  154. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Have you seen EJax numbers this year?

  155. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… Might as well hae Duke or HROD pitch if you are going to keep ball up. June 05, 2013 7:38 PM Uh, no.

  156. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Haren's number as fifth starter is fine.

  157. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    Oh,Danny boy, the ump the ump is calling- and he is saying—BALL. We going to see Stammen and Davis?? Lots'O Pitches so far.

  158. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Why is Haren nibbling against the pitcher?

  159. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    But we only have three healthy starters right now- 2 on the DL. And the order has become very convoluted.

  160. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Haren is lucky.

  161. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Nice catch, Lombo!

  162. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Thank god that's Lombo and not Moore.

  163. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    Oh- my- goodness. That ball is carrying! Good thing Lombo is fast. Hope it flies for us, too!

  164. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Yah Tarasco, that's bright to have your LF to the pitcher's pull side play him like a chump. That was close to a disaster. Great catch Lombo!

  165. Knoxville Nat - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Seen EJax numbers and don't want any part of those. I would have preferred keeping Lannan over EJax, but Haren for one year seemed reasonable. DL for Lannan wasn't something that was foreseeable.

  166. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    sure am glad lombo is 6'0 tall as listed on the team site.

  167. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Christian Garcia goes 2 innings giving up 1 hit in Harrisburg tonite.

  168. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Jack, agreed, though you gotta admit that he did look like a second baseman making the catch.

  169. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Well- he kind of IS a second baseman.

  170. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Haren can hit, right?

  171. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Haren nearly hit a homer!

  172. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Haren could be the slowest human being of all time.

  173. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Yep Joe….that he did. But that's better than looking like a DH making the catch.

  174. Scott Margenau - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Lombo. Great play! Love it.Harren nearly went yard.

  175. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Ok. But he can't run.

  176. Scott Margenau - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Come on jayson.!!!!!

  177. Knoxville Nat - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Can we put in a courtesy runner for Haren?

  178. NatsJack in Florida - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Looks like D-Span got the message on OBP.

  179. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    2nd life Jayson!

  180. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Haren and his speed is hilarious…. Lol…. I'm still laughing….

  181. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… Looks like D-Span got the message on OBP.I was thinking the same thing!

  182. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Terrible….

  183. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Sigh.

  184. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    guess trent should have sent haren…haha.

  185. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Werth, one day of the DL…give you one.But we need you to come through, man!

  186. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

  187. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    One day off the DL

  188. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Lateral muscle? Sorry Julie, its Latisimus muscle.

  189. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Mariners/White Sox 14 innings of shutout

  190. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP 24sWhen Marlon Byrd played for the Nats in 2006, his car got stolen from the RFK Stadium parking lot during a road trip. Great times.That's hilarious.

  191. baseballswami - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    She is perky but not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  192. paul brandt - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    SS has the biggest wad of tobacco in his cheek I have seen in a long time and not so sure the cup he is drinking contains water.

  193. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    We've got bad Dan Haren tonight.

  194. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    come on dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  195. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Haren is a bum….

  196. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Dan, you are better than this.

  197. Joe Seamhead - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Wow, just looked back, and Werth looked like he held up. The ball of Wright's was out.

  198. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Oh, no. We really need to find that jet stream, too. Looks like Haren is trying to pour gasoline on that nearby fire.

  199. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Notice they follow hits with homers. We follow with nothing close to a homer. We are wasting base runners

  200. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    MrsB loves the Nats said… Haren is a bum…. June 05, 2013 8:00 PM Wow, that is nice.

  201. Eric - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    How on earth was that 3rd pitch to Duda called a BALL!? IT WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ZONE!!!

  202. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Take Haren out.

  203. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Yeah GoSM… He is a bum….

  204. Joe Seamhead - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Three fly ball homers. Hey, Nats? Let's hit some fly balls. Deep fly balls.

  205. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    So we thought we were going to have five killer starters- now we have JZ and Gio, if he does not get suspended. Plus two call ups and the home run Santa.

  206. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    15 homers given up by Haren, seriously?? He looks like he is stoned, I really do not like this clown at all

  207. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    And you wonder why we are way behind in the standings? This is not the pitching staff we expected. Get well soon Det and Stras!!!!

  208. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    No Mrs B, I wouldn't even say that about Henry. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the GM that spent $13,000,000 on him.

  209. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    what pisses me off about Haren is that he knows Det and Stras are out for a while…this is where professionals who CARE and who are GOOD step up for their team, all this clown did tonight was lose a game and steal a pay check

  210. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Haren given away a lot of mo.This is the night the hitters have to be serious. Our pitchers have carried this team.Only once did we actualky get into a slugfest this season and we lost that 7-6 lsst Wednesday, well it up to the hitters now to get as serious as Met hitters have.

  211. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Is Stammen up?

  212. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    get this garbage pitcher out of here, please Davey, I'm begging ya, what a BUM!

  213. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    mick, come on, think of all the happy HR catching people that have had the time of their lives and will be back b/c of Haren.

  214. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Oh, this was one move I was totally against…. And still am… Haren has only had 2 good games out of the 10 he has played in…Not worth it…. He is a bum…

  215. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    mick, do you think he is trying to suck. He's leaving his pitches up and they are teeing off. Gee has made several mistake pitches and haven't seen any Nats HRs. Bad pitches and credit to the hitters.

  216. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    "Haren has only had 2 good games out of the 10 he has played in…"That's simply not true.

  217. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    good point Paul, LOL

  218. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Really, though- plenty of time if we can square it up . Not like that ground ball, of course. If they can hit it hard, it might fly out .

  219. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    When we need runners that is a great play.

  220. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Whelp. Bad Haren does not mess around.Weirdly, he doesn't seem to be feeling especially poor tonight. He was moving around the bases better than he usually does.

  221. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Way to beat the shift, Adam!!!!

  222. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Ghost Of Steve M.15 HR's…. I knew Wright was going to homer because everyone in the park could see, Haren's pitches are all high tonight. Nobody tries to suck, but players like Haren so not do the extra preparation to be better…I have said this since April..his preparation is terrible

  223. Joe Seamhead - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Hey! How about ALR reaching on a bunt?

  224. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Need to bat around,

  225. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    They all laughed when I said "Get Bartolo Colon." Or was that when I sat down at the piano?"Marlon Byrd is available," I said. Nobody listens to Old Sofa…

  226. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Please tell me his good games this season… Every game has gotten better… Ie, he sucks less….His Atl game was good and Bmore… What other game????

  227. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    after last nights emotional win and the team trying to get on track, this clown pitches one of the worst games I have seen from a pitcher in a awhile he stole his pay check tonight, he owes his team mates an apology and should give his check back to the Lerners

  228. TimDz - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    FP keeps saying that the ball is flying out…..If that is the case, why does it only happen during the top of the inning?Maybe it has something to do with our pitcher vs. theirs…not to mention our batters starting out 0-1 just about every time….

  229. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    That exact pitch was a ball 2 pitches before. Unbelievable.

  230. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    That wasnt a K….

  231. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    take a bong hit Haren, i'm sure you do that on your off days

  232. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    If Gee was pitching up we would be teeing up also. He is pitching so that we ground out. You know- the way you avoid the hitters going yard.

  233. Joe Seamhead - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    mick, are you sure you're not pulling our leg?

  234. Less Platu - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    What's Haren give up, 14 home runs? Gotta lead the MLB or at least close. I like Haren at times, but don't see him getting any better.

  235. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Haren leads the NL in home runs, he's 2nd in MLB.

  236. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Sigh… Okay..

  237. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Have we talked about Jacques Plante lately?

  238. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Ian Krol warming.

  239. phil dunton - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Marlon Byrd's stolen vehicle was a Cadillac Escalade SUV.

  240. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Apr 27 Red May 12 Dodgers

  241. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Haren's other 2 starts Apr 27 vs Reds Mat vs. dodgers

  242. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    LaRoche gun shy there with the play on that bunt. Thought for sure he was going to 2nd.

  243. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    We know absolutely nothing about Haren's prep for his outings, so there's no basis to say he doesn't prepare. Pretty sure he wants to succeed because, in addition to wanting to win in general, he's trying to get a long-term contract for next season.It's a logical fallacy many fans are too prone to, imo – if the results are bad, there's an assumption that it's because they're not trying hard enough or are a bad person somehow. The fault is always will or something mental. 99% of the time, a player who's not doing well is both doing as well as they can *and* not succeeding.

  244. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    It really is early enough if we can get to Gee. I would love to see Davis or Kroll . Hey- look! The Mets did not hit any home runs in that inning! Progress!

  245. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Haren's has sucked the enthusiasm out of the crowd.The hitters need to blow the baloons right back up.One lesson Ian hasnt learned umps cannot be depended on to call the pitch correct that ball was way inside, but the Nats dobt get a lot of those. Need to more runners

  246. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    This just means we'll have to comeback late again. Return of the Cardiac Nats.

  247. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    That should be, the problem is not always will or something mental…

  248. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Now get suzuki home . We need runs.Tell shsrk these arr the O's

  249. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Haren out. Kroll or Stammen?

  250. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    We absolutely must get these runs in.

  251. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Aight Mr Bernadina….

  252. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Keep the line moving.

  253. BxJaycobb - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Honestly I barely blame Haren. He's simply been ineffective for the last few years, but all of a sudden Rizzo thinks he has outsmarted everyone (as he always thinks he has…i.e. being the only person in western civilization who finds it unnecessary to carry a lefty in the bullpen) and decides Haren's on the brink of a renaissance? Spoiler alert: The dude is done. Anybody who followed him with the Angels and whose eyes were attached to their brains could see it. He may have a nice game here and there, but he's easily (easily) a below average starter in the Major Leagues. It's not that he's worth 13 million dollars. He's barely worth anything. When you know you're going to have injuries to pitching, you simply can't afford to sign a starter principally because he's "reliable and steady" re health and will give you 35 starts a year. This team is not going to make up the ground it needs to with one of their starters being reliably poor game after game. We just don't have the offense for it.

  254. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    That K really sucked.

  255. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    2 ducks on the pond with 1 out and Span K's.

  256. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    not good boys, not good.

  257. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Wow…..

  258. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Werth we are not in Potomac any more.2 3 run homers Snday.2 3 run homer opportunity = 2 KLeft 4 in scoring position now.Check swing and called. Is he gun shy tonight.

  259. TimDz - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    That was a sad sequence….2nd and 3rd with one out and they can't even push across one run.. .with Haren out, maybe the BP can put some zeros on the board….but you have to chip away…..

  260. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    hate to say it but why waste stammen here? bring in one of the young bucks when you are down 5 to 1.

  261. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    It takes time to regain timing. It was unrealistic to expect Werth to come back and suddenly be an offensive force. What he immediately brings is a presence to the clubhouse. We've seen that. The bat will take a few days.

  262. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Heron might as well stayed inAs usual we heal slumps Wright awful the lsst 2 weeks

  263. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Ruh- Roh. Things not looking too good for Stammen, either.

  264. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    The White Sox scored 5 runs in the 14th inning in a 0-0 game. Seattle tied in the bottom of the 14th with 5 runs.On to the 15th.

  265. Scott Margenau - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Brutal game so far

  266. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    You noticed MrsB ask for another example of a good Haren game. I gave 2 and she has run for the hills.

  267. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Freddy Garcia gives up 4 runs in the 1st inning vs the Astros.Yah, Cy Garcia from last weeks shutout.

  268. PityPolice - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Haren is hot garbage. Not worthy of his contract or a spot in this rotation.

  269. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    When? I'm still here… I didnt see the comment… I don't run from arguments/disagreements…

  270. Section 135 - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Natinals- we don't deserve the O. Zim needs a few days off. He looks so old. Sit Span for a game after that awful at bat. Without Harper Stras and Det we have no chance. Might as well play the kids.

  271. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Uncharacteristic outing from Stammen. Walked 2 already.

  272. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    On… Wait… MNF – so you are saying he had 4 good starts instead of 2… Yeah whoop de do… That justifies that he isn't a bum….

  273. Section 135 - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Most boring team ever without Bryce. I think so.

  274. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    "Zim needs a few days off. He looks so old. Sit Span for a game after that awful at bat. "Did Zim look so old yesterday in the 9th inning? Span is 2/3. Calm yourself

  275. Eric - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    "This is the night the hitters have to be serious. Our pitchers have carried this team."Post of the thread.

  276. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Oh boy. Stammen……….

  277. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    like i said, why waste stammen on this slop of a game?! dumb!!!!!

  278. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    I didnt say he wasnt a bum. You said he only 2 good starts I said he had 4. You mixed arguments

  279. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    The Phillies are going to be in 2nd place after tonight. That hurts. But we needed to go 5/7 on this homestand. Still very possible.

  280. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    This is terrible…

  281. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Watching the white sox and Seattle now. 0-0until the eleventh. Now 5-5 in the 15 th. our game feels way too much like last weeks O's game. I need to watch a worse train wreck.

  282. Eric - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    A loss wouldn't have surprised me tonight…but a bloodbath wasn't on my radar…damn…

  283. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    I must have caused this. iaid keep the line moving.The Mets are doing that, and our hitters are as too oftenabsolutely clueless.You know who DFAd

  284. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Okay… So out of 11 games, let me make sure I say he has only had 4 good games instead of 2….Got it…. Regardless of the argument, Haren is still a bum….

  285. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Went to see the P Nats tonight Ray looked good Taylor looked awful. Come home to see this debacle. What little momentum we get just floats away like a .500 team deserves.

  286. phil dunton - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Nationals will fall to third place in the NL East tonight after the Phillies evened their record at 30-30.

  287. PityPolice - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Haren is not worthy of his contract nor a spot in this rotation. Anything short of a being shelled for 5 to 6 runs is an unlikely over achievement. If I was a fan of an opposing team I would try and make it to one of his starts in person. Hopefully things turn around.

  288. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    So Stammen threw like what 40 pitches??? for what reason?! Davey asleep at the switch again…time to watch hockey.

  289. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    "So Stammen threw like what 40 pitches??? for what reason?! "Because the game was within reach and Davey was playing to win the game.

  290. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Marty Foster is also clueless. His strike zone is so swful.It is umping like this thay eventually will cause the msjors to go robotic umping at home plate as technology gets betters, the umps must keep up.It is time for our hitters to ger serious and knock in runs.The Mets season wise are as bad as us seem to have no problems.

  291. DJB - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    You know, when you have a team this bad, its kind of funny. My pre-2012 Nats are back. Where have you been all this time? Almost didn't recognize you last year. Let's break a record for least runs scored. How about a breaking a record for most games with 2 or less runs? Let's see how many hanging sliders you can miss. Zimmerman, Zimmerman….

  292. paul brandt - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    sorry dave, disagree…not with this offense but hope you are right and will give you kudos if you are.

  293. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    The game isn't really in reach anymore. It was before.

  294. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    14Th in league in runs. Tell me their approach is go

  295. Section 135 - Jun 6, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Cy Gee. Cy Heffner. Tomorrow Cy Marcum. Yet Eck is a great hitting coach

  296. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Gee put everything down…. Haren left everything up…I've never turned a a nats game off or left early regardless how terrible things were going (even in those 100 loss seasons). I will not start tonight…

  297. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Krol coming in too. Going to need another long relief guy tomorrow for Karns, then. Any options? Rosenbaum, maybe?

  298. Rabbit34 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    Haren is maxed out. Time to go to pasture. This team…. inhales. Looks like a fourth place finish this year. Call a spade a spade folks. We can make up all the lame excuses we want to, but in the end it doesn't help. Last year, like the 3-2 win over N.Y. last night, was a fluke. And, you can take that to the bank.

  299. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    the season is over. this team doesnt have enough talent to be much better than. 500. "this is my last year as manager" and World series or bust comments were a killer. way to RECKIT RIZZO! Be lucky to finish 3rd in the division. 8 games back. just pathetic.

  300. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    "Looks like a fourth place finish this year"Look at the Mets record.

  301. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    And yet another night we make a nobody look dominant on the mound. Some things don't change.

  302. Section 135 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Bad baseball. No grind in this team. That is teachable. Just give up when they get down. Starts with Davey and his confused old man look. Next is Mccatty with his grumpy yet clueless looks and Eck with the confused look on his face.

  303. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    "And yet another night we make a nobody look dominant on the mound. Some things don't change."He went 7 1/3 and struck out 13 against the Yankees his last time out. Keep some perspective.

  304. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    we are sooooo bad

  305. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    White sox and Seattle to the 16th. Just keeping up with it for fun. It helps the pain. I know this is not the rotation, pen or lineup we hoped for, but I did not expect it to go this poorly. Guess we need not worry about Rendon at second- everything has gone waaay over his head.

  306. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Only one guy out tonight due to injury. (danny doesnt count) and we are getting our Butts kicked at home by the METS. Lucked out last night. What a terrible team. Step down tommorow Davey Please. Whos pitching tommorow? Stevie Wonder or Helen Keller?

  307. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Do people always have to say season over when the Nats lose a game? Because there's like 103 more of these things, you guys.

  308. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    even if Hare was not a worthless sack of you know what, the bottom of 5th was pathetic, Werth should have stayed on DL…good teams get those 2 runs in… we are simply pathetic

  309. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Walter Mathua for Manager.

  310. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Werth has to readjust to big league pitching. It takes a few days. If you thought Werth coming back would suddenly change everything, you set yourself up for disappointment. Doesn't work that way. These things take time.

  311. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    If Krol can develop a changeup, look out.

  312. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Krol just struck out the side!

  313. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    I forgot, Harvey is itching tonight…that is why Werth looks at 3rd strike and Span strikes out…ooops I forgot it is a crappy 3-6 pitcher who looks like Harvey verse the Nats, just like every pitcher looks like Harvey verse us. Davey said this morning if you fire Eck, fire me….what the hell is rizzo waiting for

  314. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Pretty good, new guy.

  315. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    Proctor he is 3-6 with an ERA of 5.68 and we have 1 run that is my perspective

  316. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    can rizzo fire himself … the Haren move shows he is a stooge

  317. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Good on you Krol!!!

  318. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Emdash. Anybody who looks at this team can see there is no hope for post season. For those that do may I recommend cutting the trips to happy hour down to twice a week.

  319. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    we are at 59 games… how much more time…2014?

  320. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Now the guys need to score at least one for pride. But i am telling you that if we come back and win this one I am dancing naked in the streets.

  321. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    swami…that is too much information, lol

  322. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Me too swami…. Me too….

  323. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Can we just can the post season talk right now?

  324. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Secret wasian man said…Emdash. Anybody who looks at this team can see there is no hope for post season. For those that do may I recommend cutting the trips to happy hour down to twice a week. POTD you are spot on, what a bust of team and a season

  325. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Folks here complain about LODers and trolls. I would like to complain about all the people who say, "theres time" and "Its Early." NO IS NOT!!! Wake up people

  326. Scott Margenau - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Just missed

  327. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    I'm not saying we're likely to make the postseason or we're not. We're not out of it. Until we're mathematically eliminated, I'm not giving up. If you want to dwell, feel free.

  328. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    David… we should place bets now on the elimination date, I say August 20

  329. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Agree David P…

  330. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    No its not over. I mean "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" NO but last year I always expected a win. this year not the case.

  331. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    My bet on elimination date is November 1st. That's the day after we win the World Series.

  332. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    and I bet… Davey leaves before the end of the season too. I also think the Lerners will show the door to the bald headed stooge of a GM, lol

  333. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Davis really does look like Clip… Lol… Kinda funny

  334. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    White Sox win in the 16th 7-5

  335. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Hoping hurts nothing. They're scuffling now, and all that's in my control is my decision to hope they do better.Haren was a reasonable gamble given his strong history and the 1 year deal. I didn't agree with it, but the thought process was sound. The gamble hasn't worked out that well, but it wasn't an unreasonable choice. That's the story of this season; every reasonable gamble hasn't worked out.

  336. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Freddy Garcia pulled after 3 innings and 6 earned runs.

  337. Secret wasian man - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    Elimination time???? 3 innings ago

  338. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    They had Davis and Clip on split screen last night it was freaky

  339. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    No its not over. I mean "was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" NO but last year I always expected a win. this year not the case.was it over when the Titanic hit the iceberg, oops, actually it was, lol to coin a line from Stephen Colbert… don't look at the Nats as sinking, they are soaring like the Hidenburg, lol

  340. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    I hope Clip and Storen take in Davis as a roomie. Davis has that straight leg follow thru like Storen but looks like Clip's twin.

  341. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    And for the record, Drew's Mom says they never roomed together. Jhonny Holiday sure does care about where people are from. Tired of him. I love watching new guys. It's very 2010.

  342. slidell2 - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Actually folks, it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor.

  343. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    I feel bad for Davey as he looks bewildered… hey Haren pass Davey your bong, lol

  344. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Well, swami, I don't think we'll be dancing tonight….

  345. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Slidell – the quote comes from Animal House….

  346. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    if Nats do not win with Gio, tomorrow, both the Twins and Rockies will send the Nats back to their 2007 level.. I smell a 7-8 game losing streak coming which will for all intents and purposes will end any post season hope for 2013

  347. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    it is so sickening to see the fans come out and show support, Nats fans have proven DC is a baseball town (not that we ever had too). Nats are top 5-6 in attendance. If i was the owner, i would be livid with Davey and the Stooge

  348. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    "it is so sickening to see the fans come out and show support"Yeah how awful. I'm sure the players truly hate it.

  349. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    David Proctor said…"it is so sickening to see the fans come out and show support"Yeah how awful. I'm sure the players truly hatehow do you draw that conclusion?It is sickening for the Lerners and fans who have emotionally invested a great deal in this team…these players should be ashamed of themselves, especialy Haren who is garbage

  350. phil dunton - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Freddy Garcia, who pitched like Roger Clemens in his prime against the Nationals last week, was knocked out after three innings against the weak hitting Astros.

  351. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    I hope Davey puts in Solano to catch the rest of the game.

  352. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    in fact, the players should be embarrassed at the support they get from the fans and the poor half ass effort they have shown… this is unacceptable and they deserve all the flack they are about to get

  353. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    "It is sickening for the Lerners and fans who have emotionally invested a great deal in this team…these players should be ashamed of themselves, especialy Haren who is garbage"Why? Do you think they're not trying? Too many people on here seem to think that the players don't care, aren't trying, or have some character flaw that makes them awful people and awful players. They're underperforming, it happens. Do you think you start hitting better by being ashamed of it? You're wrong if you do.

  354. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Phil D… I was just on the phone talking to my dad about the game and switched over to see the other game and told my dad that…. He did one of those heavy sighs and said 'Not surprised'

  355. ehay2k - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Not our best effort tonight. Haren wasn't sharp, and the defense hasn't been either. The rookie pitchers are the only reason to smile. Oh, and ALR's bunt. That made me happy.Lastly, we stink with RISP. I'm sure it's not Eck, but somehow, I think the players do not have a proper plan at the plate. That needs to be adjusted.

  356. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    We are the cure for all who slump. Sometimes I think this season is a bad dream. We thought the curse lifted last night, but it was just a tease.. Seriously, how you can completely absolve the hitting coach is beyond me.would love to see any offense right now. Anything at all. It won't always be this bad.

  357. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    I assume we will everygame. I hate when they lose, but never ever will you hear me say it is over. If you think it is over, then let it be over and move on.In the meantime I planning to win this still and win tomorrow.First move is to get some to coach hitting.Gee almost 6 ERA coming into tonight. Our hitters need a coach.

  358. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM

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  359. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Ghost Of Steve M. said… Sorry, 3-0 where you have the pitcher breathing hard and you have the new callup swing?Bad idea although nice wood on it but unlucky BABIP. June 05, 2013 7:30 PM This is looking larger in the whole picture as the Nats had Gee on a 1st inning pitch count in the 20s and only scored 1 and left 2 on.

  360. phil dunton - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    The Lerners did not choose to extend Rizzo's contract beyond the 2014 option season. They may eventually offer him a new contract but that's unlikely if the Nationals continue to sink. The minor league cupboard is pretty bare and the current roster certain doesn't offer much hope. If Rizzo departs, I certainly hope he takes his adopted son, Eckstein, with him.

  361. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    David… fair enough as far as most of the players go… in that case then, they simply are not very good and then one should lay off them and our wrath should be on Rizzo and Davey for hyping them up as a WS contenderI disagree with you on Haren.. I think he is lazy period and his first 3 starts should prove that in terms of his lack of preparation for those games. He looks like he could care lessthat is my view

  362. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Nats will not finish last place, but they will be battling Mets and Phillies for 4ththat is reality gang

  363. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    We do have 9 hits tonight. We failed to come up big with RISP, which sucks, but isn't a particularly good indicator of future success. Especially given that Werth is 1 day off the DL and he was the guy up in many of those situations. More times than not, he will knock those runs in. He's just rusty.

  364. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Yeah GoSM…. I'm not sure who gave Rendon the to ahead… Whether it was McCatty or DJ but I didnt like that at all….

  365. mick - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    David, unfortunately there is nothing in these 59 games that is particularly good indicator of future successlol

  366. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    Baltimore is losing 9-1 to the Astros. This game is so humbling. I love baseball. I know they are trying and confounded. I will watch just to see what happens next. I do think a hitting coach MUST beat some responsibility. I also think if things don't get better in the second half– and I think they will– Davey will step aside early so that the new manager can have the same advantage he had.

  367. Dan Strong - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    The nats have to be leading the league in at least one stat… Blowouts….against.

  368. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Well Abad has been a pleasant surprise. Can we at least agree on that?

  369. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    And I have to confess that when the season started I would have had a hard time figuring out who Abad, Davis, Krol, Karns and Whoever is coming next- Ohlendorf?? were. Come on guys – this is who is pitching for us now.

  370. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    So who are we drafting tomorrow??

  371. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Well, let's face it. The Span deal flopped and the Haren deal flopped as well. I like them both personally, but we already have tons of .250-type hitters with no power. Span contributes very little to the offense with his 3.20ish obp and zero power. He is not a base stealer and while his fielding is decent, that really wasn't an issue last year. They said putting him in center would take the pressure off Harper in the outfield. What a joke. Harper got hurt because they were moving him around all the time instead of leaving him in center to learn the position and the fields in the NL.You could pitch any guy from the minors and get better results than you get from Haren. The only issue with Haren is his variability sucks you in. He seems better but he isn't. Either Lannan or Jackson would have been better.Beyond those deals, this team has suddenly become almost unwatchable. This isn't football. You have to keep some guys healthy. As soon as they get behind by more than one run, you know the game is over. I have never seen a team with so many players like Tyler Moore who simply have no idea what they are even doing at the plate. How is he not back in the minors? He can't field, run, or hit. It is getting hard not to feel that we lucked into last year.

  372. Dan Strong - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    I'll give this to them… When they lose, they lose big.

  373. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    All Haren had to do was pitch a shutout and we'd be in this game. Like most nights when you give up the second run it is over.But tomorrow is another day.

  374. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Nice to see Rendon check in with a double.

  375. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Finally something to get excited about! Rendon!

  376. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Way to go, kid!!!

  377. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    Good job, lefty bullpen guys.The lesson of this game is that tinkering with the roster on the edges can't create immediate results. Nothing's going to quickly Change Everything. Health, and more players performing to their career levels, are what will help. There's no magic bullet. Only thing for it is patience and hoping for the best.

  378. DJB - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Mick, primary responsibility lies with our huckster GM. He should have been fired for sitting Stras last year. If Stras can't stay healthy, you might as well take your chance when the ring is on the line. Anyway, its kind of fun in a weird way to watch all this horribleness. I think I am over the burden of high expectations.

  379. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    On one hand, it seems like we are hitting on pitchers…. But on the other, we aren't scoring runs….I'm wondering if that is on Eck…

  380. NatsLady - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Boy, when you watch Lombo swing after watching Rendon–what a difference.

  381. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    I love it when Jhonny Holiday tells us that the Mets pen is the worst in baseball. FP has quit talking. In shock.

  382. SCNatsFan - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    If Davey's comments showed anything then Eck isn't going anywhere

  383. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    I am aware. But it just seems to make no sense. It is so obviously not working — at all.

  384. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    Still like the Span deal. He's changed his hitting approach over the last month to be more aggressive, I'd expect at the coaches' direction, and it's not working. Hopefully they'll realize that soon and he can go back to playing his game. He'll start getting on base better once that happens.

  385. NatsLady - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Wow, how would you like to blow a 5-run lead in the 14th inning with your closer in? (Oh, and still win the game.)

  386. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

    The roster didn't need any tinkering. Rizzo should have left everything the way it was and either sign La Roche or not. Obviously, we needed a left reliever and in Rizzo's defense, Christian Garcia apparently is a phantom pitcher who is often touted and yet seldom seen.The Gio and Suzuki deals were both good, but I am afraid the success of those deal may have led to hubris. I see nothing in the past portfolio of Denard Span that indicates that he is anything but an okay player. At least he isn't BJ Upton, I guess at $75 million.This team needed another big bat like Morse's, not another Lombardozzi typy player in Span. That deal, together with letting Morse go was a big, big mistake.

  387. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:11 AM

    We just need 9 to tie. Don't give up until the 27th out.

  388. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:11 AM

    Abad has very impressive.

  389. EmDash - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

    Minor lat injury that any pitcher can get does not equal can't stay healthy.

  390. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

    Morse is on pace to allow the most runs since the stat started being kept. The record is 45. He's on pace for over 60. That's how bad his defense is. If you think defense doesn't matter, you don't understand baseball.

  391. NatsLady - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:14 AM

    Very. I don't think he has given up a run, has he?Kobernus is a skinny noodle. Didn't realize that.

  392. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:15 AM

    This is like watching a game at Harrisburg or Syracuse. Might as well bring up a few more. Can't go any worse. I like Abad! And Kobernus is on base. Rally time!!

  393. Bob Saget Nats Fan 101 - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

    question for everyone. I want to go to Fridays game with my family. We want to get tickets on stubhub.With the forecast for Friday being rain, what is the nationals current policy on rainout games? Any links would help.I ask because I could buy good tickets for cheap and exchange them for a later game if the nats do that.

  394. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

    The NL East is suddenly the NL Least. The Braves are not that good. This could be a year where 88 wins gets you the division crown. I agree that the wild card seems a long shot.Nevertheless, the dirty little secret of MLB is that regular season records don't matter in the play-offs, particularly if you have pitching. Just ask the 82-79 Mets who came within a whisper of beating the eventual 3 time champs A's back in 1973. I remember the 83-79 Cards winning the World Series, as well as a Twins team that was actually outscored during the regular season in 1987.

  395. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

    Jeez, Span has been robbed twice tonight.

  396. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

    DSpan really has gotten robbed tonight.

  397. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    Ha! Both at 10:16!!!

  398. David Proctor - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Does Tracy do anything but pop up?

  399. baseballswami - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Uh, no.

  400. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    Just a brutal game…. Guess this was just 1 of the 70 games we were gonna lose…. *sigh*. Back under 500…. Again….

  401. Dan Strong - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    And that's that… Welcome to third place.

  402. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:22 AM

    Lets salvage the series and Win tomorrow… Later folks…

  403. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    They could have put Morse at first and platooned him with La Roche like the Yankees used to do. Yes, he was a poor outfielder, but so is Tyler Moore, who has essentially contributed nothing to the time this year except keeping the fans in the first row cool with his swings.Anyone who says offense doesn't matter in baseball is an absolute fool.The goal is outscoring the opposition and there are plenty of ways to do it. Offense doesn't win championships, nor does defense. Outscoring the opposition does.

  404. DWS - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:25 AM

    Very interesting speed read. For all of you who don't like following the Nats, before them (and the Expos) there was the Dodgers. mick you're reverting to form.The sun will rise and there will be baseball tomorrow…whether the ledge let go or not.My 2 cents.

  405. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 6, 2013 at 2:28 AM

    How are Chad Tracy and Tyler Moore even on the roster? I don't understand how it is even possible to carry guys hitting under .150 on the team. Why do they even pull the pitchers and have these guys hit for them when Gio, Haren and Strasburg are all better hitters.It is such a joke every time that Davey pinch hits these guys. I can't stomach much more of Chad Tracy and Tyler Moore this year. I really can't.

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