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Instant analysis: Phillies 4, Nats 2

Jun 19, 2013, 2:48 AM EDT

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Jayson Werth's fourth-inning homer produced one of the Nats' two runs.

Game in a nutshell: The Ross Detwiler-Cliff Lee pitching matchup looked like a compelling one on paper, and it didn't disappoint. Each left-hander was both dominant and efficient for much of the evening, surrendering one early run. Then Detwiler folded in the sixth, allowing three runs, while Lee continued his excellence straight through the eighth. One night after producing a game-tying rally against the Phillies bullpen, there was no such drama for the Nationals. They went down quietly against Jonathan Papelbon and thus lost their third straight game, falling two games below .500. Most frustrating: Because the Braves were swept by the Mets in a doubleheader, there was an opportunity to gain 1 1/2 games in the standings. Instead, the Nats only gain 1/2-game, while the Phillies gain 1 1/2 and catch the Nationals for second place.

Hitting lowlight: The highlights were few and far between. Jayson Werth homered in the fourth. Jeff Kobernus homered in the eighth, the first of his career. In between, the Nationals barely did anyRead more ยป

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  1. Unknown - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM

    another unwatchable game from this team.no charisma, no heart, no runs.gonna be a struggle to get 80 wins from this squad.

  2. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:52 AM

    The taste of what we are choking down night after night is very sour. Ouch. Still love you, Nats, hang in there!

  3. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

    Well… It's not like Lee is some no name that we made into the next CY candidate….Lee was on…. Nats bats were off…. Hopefully tomorrow we can get the win and go 5-5 on this road trip…

  4. Boyer - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

    This team should have to ride on a bus like a AAA team until they actually play like major leaguers. Nats are becoming the joke of baseball. Horrific.

  5. Dan Strong - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

    This team…*sigh*

  6. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

    This game isn't on Det, it's on the offense (as usual). Having said that, Det was one pitch away from getting out of it and couldn't do it. Although, of course, if that's an outfielder in the outfield, they probably catch that liner. That ended up being the difference in the game. We gained half a game, but it should've been 1.5. We have to take advantage of these opportunities. It's hard to watch right now.

  7. SCNatsFan - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    Again, you struggle for offense and play Punch and Judy second basemen in the outfield. Maybe in AAA the can convert Espi too. Go ahead Davey, tell the team to relax. Another embarrassing effort at the plate.

  8. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    Boyer said…This team should have to ride on a bus like a AAA team until they actually play like major leaguers. Nats are becoming the joke of baseball. Horrific.This hyperbole does nobody any good. The Nats are 2 games under .500. Not good given expectations, but there are another 10-15 teams who would probably like to be where we are. We're not "the joke of baseball."

  9. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    As I said before first pitch Det had to match Lee pitch for pitch.On the bright side, we didnt make a single out with RISP

  10. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:55 AM

    The Blue Jays have won 7 straight after being awful early on. It's possible, folks.

  11. Boyer - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    Total lack of heart. No passion. I would start taking things away in the locker room. Make them feel some pain and need to earn it. If this keeps up the place will be empty once Skins camp starts. No one will even know baseball is going on in Aug and Sept.

  12. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    Keep the line moving has been my theme for 50 years

  13. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    yesterday, Davey pulled Stras after 5 innings…why did he not pull det after 5? even FP stated Det looked tired..once again, Davey's decision was just wrong

  14. Boyer - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:57 AM

    David…The World Series or bust proclamation is a HUGE bust. That is why they are the joke. Too much preseason hype for a team that choked last year.

  15. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM

    Detwiler was one pitch from getting out of it and probably should have gotten out of it if Lombo makes a decent play. Easy to go back in hindsight, but I'm fine with Davey's decision. He's made much worse before.

  16. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:59 AM

    my point is both Stras and Det had just return after a month…Davey has no feel of his pitchers

  17. John Stodalka - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:59 AM

    Prediction:Lombardozzi, with his .234 obp and popgun swing, will be sent down, Kobernus will stay.

  18. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:59 AM

    Boyer, the season isn't over yet. It's getting harder, but the Braves aren't running away with it. How about we just see how it plays out instead of stressing so much?

  19. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:00 AM

    Progress MNF…. Progress….Yeahs David… I'm not gonna worry about it until we are technically out of it… Until then and after then I will continue to root and cheer for them…

  20. John Stodalka - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    Prediction:Lombardozzi, with his .234 obp and popgun swing, will be sent down, Kobernus will stay.

  21. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    Desi, as a team leader went to the manager. He got the usual blather. They just need to relax and have fun. Yeah. That should do it. That's the brilliant plan? And as for those of you who think they don't care or have any heart? The opposite is probably true. They are tied up in knots. If you could ask their families how things are going, I am sure this is not a happy time. They are going through a horrible time. As hard as this is to watch, I cannot even imagine being in that clubhouse.

  22. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:02 AM

    I truly believe this team is going to go on a roll in the second half. Depending on how far back we are, it may or may not be enough. But either way, it will be a whole lot of fun to watch. We will be in contention.

  23. JaneB - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:02 AM

    We lose the game My client on The Voice comes in second. Bad night.

  24. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:02 AM

    David… Det shout a have been pulled after 5 in my view, using the same rationale for Stras after he was out a month…. I mean Storen was rested, right

  25. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:03 AM

    Yeah swami – I was about to say… I know they are frustrated, probably beyond you and I could even think about…. It's tough but as we know winning cures all… Hopefully, they can start winning and things will get good…

  26. DJB - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:04 AM

    Again, the run differential is ultimately determinative. We are about negative forty. We will end between 5 and 8 below 500. This is pretty much set in stone. We can say "go team," but it is over.

  27. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:04 AM

    Mick, the difference is that this is Det's second start. Det went 5 in his first start, as did Stras. Stras will probably go further in his next start as well.

  28. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:04 AM

    bottom line, Braves lose 2 and Nats fail to take advantage of it. there are simply no more excuses

  29. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM

    DJB said…Again, the run differential is ultimately determinative. We are about negative forty. We will end between 5 and 8 below 500. This is pretty much set in stone. We can say "go team," but it is over.Then why watch? I don't get it. If you're SOOOO sure it's over and the team is so painful to watch, WHY DO IT? Or do you just enjoy coming here to tell us how awful the team is and we stand no chance? It makes no sense to think that way, otherwise.

  30. Unknown - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:07 AM

    Really proud of our guys tonight. Didn't show any quit.

  31. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

    It just cracks me up when people blame Lombo, the part time bench infielder. He is just a huge cog in this machine. Certainly no veterans with big contracts responsible here. Entire game rested all on that one throw. Such a very unlikely scapegoat.

  32. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

    When Harper gets back they will go on a tear.Not sure why so many people are so negative about the ending.Look at Giants 2010 and 2012. Tigers 2011.One thing I dis agree with many. Every game is important be it early, middle or late. Too many kept saying it is earky. Well if Braves had gone 7-7 not 12-2 we would be just about even.

  33. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

    Agreed DP… I'm okay with us hovering around 500 considering the circumstances… Just trying to be patient until everything gets back in order…

  34. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM

    Get Mlb.tv watch others. Getting ready to move on.

  35. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:12 AM

    David….I hope you are right, but I see zero evidence that this group can ever put together a winning streak of any kind… they are playing hard and in 70 games I feel they only quit once this season the exceood.ption is Haren, who is garbage). The point is, they are just not very good

  36. SCNatsFan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:13 AM

    Swami I don't blame Lombo I blame Davey for thinking he is a starting mlb outfielder

  37. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:14 AM

    They. Are a lot faster. But record at this stage about the same.

  38. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:15 AM

    The Tigers were under .500 until July last year. The A's were 5 back with 9 to play and won the division.The point isn't that the team is playing well. It's not. The point is that runs CAN happen (even if they're not probable). People who come here and say it's a CERTAINTY that the season is over on June 18 annoy me. You can say the team isn't playing well, find fault with Davey, players, whatever. But the season isn't over, the Nationals aren't eliminated and I'm going to continue rooting for the team until the end (and even after that).If you get some enjoyment out of the team struggling or trying to make the rest of us as miserable about the team as you, have fun with that I guess. To each their own.

  39. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:16 AM

    Phillies appear to be a better team than Nats and will be in second place by Wed, as I said on Sunday. what is scary is that the Mets may be better than us. I hate to say, Nats will finish 4th, ahead of Miami

  40. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    Oh my lord….

  41. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    Our woodward and Berstein's on twitter didnt report if Harper started jogging today. Said yesterday he was suppose too, but no one followed up.I am guessing he jogged a little to see how it will feel tomorrow.

  42. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    mick said…Phillies appear to be a better team than Nats and will be in second place by Wed, as I said on Sunday. what is scary is that the Mets may be better than us. I hate to say, Nats will finish 4th, ahead of MiamiMick, come on. I know you're pessimistic but keep some perspective, man! You said we'd be in third after the last Phillies series and we weren't. The Mets are certainly not better than us. The Phillies are not better than us either. You have some confirmation bias because you only see when our team fails, not when they do.

  43. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM

    There are things in every game that I appreciate. First of all- I just really like baseball. Watching Jayson shut up that rude crowd was quite satisfying. Det showed five innings of what he is capable of. And don't compare Det and Stras!!! Det was out for a full month. Stras was working up to 7-8 innings and was out a shorter time. And he is supposed to be " The Man". Det was cruising and hit a wall- did anyone notice? Again- he was out much longer, made one start in Colorado, in the altitude . I love the team but I am getting the feeling that the bosses are not paying attention. Anyway, positives– how about Kobernus getting his first homer off of Lee???

  44. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM

    Zach Wheeler was rewarded for his stellar start by being sent back to AAA.

  45. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

    I'm always happy when the Astros win…. Good for Bo Porter…

  46. MrsB loves the Nats - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:21 AM

    Mick – be prepared for people to call you out when you make statements such as that you made about the Nats being in 4th place, if it doesn't happen…I've seen you make various comments like that then scream 'why me?' When your statements are false….

  47. Joe Seamhead - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

    No, the whole game didn't rest on the throw.We got beat by a great pitcher who is having a great year personally. But, swami, the infielders playing the outfield are killing our pitchers.Though plays like tonight don't go in the book as errors, they are plays that have to be made. I have a lot of respect for your opinions but we'll never agree on this thing regarding Lombo, Kobernus and Moore. Like I said, I don't expect web gems from them because they can't make them. I'll continue to cheer for them from the stands, but I have my opinion and you have yours. Mine is quite simply they shouldn't be out there to start with.

  48. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

    The Nats are not in third place, they're tied for second.

  49. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:25 AM

    On any given day any team can win or lose. It's not predictable- you think it is, but it's not. It's been disappointing and frustrating to be sure, but I will watch every day because anything can happen. David is right- it's June 18 th. Game tomorrow. I hope they play well but I would not be against a little lucky bounce now and then!!

  50. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:28 AM

    Mick had loose all 6 ganes between Twins and Rockies, so I concluded he is just to negative for me toi believe.I realize I am to positive as I see no reason why we can't win the division.Most pkayers are way under lifetime numbersand when they get back to normal and Harper is back we will take off.

  51. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:28 AM

    MrsB…my comments are so harmless compared to other posters…I also do not insult anyone unless they attack me first.I predicted Sunday, Nats would be in third after Phillies series…now, if Phils win…my prediction will be spot on, right? So, will you and any other mother fers in here acknowledge it?? No,

  52. SCNatsFan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:28 AM

    I watch, I hope, I love this franchise but they are hurting my heart this year

  53. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:30 AM

    Tiebreakers aren't recognized until the end of the season for a reason. You know, when there's a sample size that actually means something and not 5 games.

  54. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

    frankly, my 8 game losing streak prediction was wrong that week, but it is a more than viable to occur than an 8 game winning streak

  55. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

    Joe- you are completely misunderstanding my position on the young guys. I am sticking up for them only because I feel that they have been put in a no win situation. Bad for their development, bad for their careers, bad for the game, bad for the team. I hate it that they have been stuck where they don't belong without the skills, experience or training. I hate to see them personally blamed for doing their best when I feel that it's poor management to have them out there. That 's why I defend them. They are tiny cogs in the wheel and the last guys who should be blamed for how things are going.

  56. BigCat - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:32 AM

    I will back my boy Manassas. We have just begun to fight. Our pitching is too good to keep this up. We deperately need Harper back

  57. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:33 AM

    The key to victory was Det had to match Lee and he couldnt

  58. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:33 AM

    manda Comak โ€@acomak 18sAsked Jayson Werth how #nats can keep from drowning in struggles & hit stride. "Got to show up tomorrow ready to eat somebody's face."Well I suppose killing the opposition is one way to win games…

  59. David Proctor - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:34 AM

    I thought you didn't insult people, Mick? You just did.

  60. Almazar80 - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

    Season's not over, many games left to be played. Of course, the probability of success isn't that great. Last year's excellence has given way to the reality of mediocrity.

  61. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

    I go into every single game assuming we can win.Why bother if you can't possibly win.I assume the itger team goes in with same attitude.We need to out execute other teams which we have not done enough of.

  62. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:36 AM

    Eat someone's face? Seriously, Jayson Werth is one of a kind. I hope he knocks a ball to New Jersey tomorrow.

  63. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:37 AM

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  64. DJB - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:37 AM

    You watch because they're Washington's team. Whether or not they win, we still have a team. When it gets too painful, I'll turn to football, but right now we have baseball, which is something to say. We just need to fix the organization and watch individuals develop. We have the money, we just need to change management.

  65. BigCat - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:38 AM

    Doesn't a good manager find ways to shake things up? How bout a little small ball Davey? Shake it up baby. Anyone can just sit there and hope for a 3 run bomb ala Weaver. How bout picking the lineup out of a hat? Could it be worse? Hell, it couldn't be worse if you brought up the P-Nats to play. World Series or Bust!!

  66. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:38 AM

    Could you make some positive predicions? We know all your negative ones.I dont remember many negative predictions last season by anyone.I try to fuss at all negative predictors not just yours.

  67. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:38 AM

    when did you defend me??

  68. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 AM

    I only saw an uuprovoked insu

  69. BigCat - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:40 AM

    Time for me to go to bed, the crowd is getting rough…. nightnight manassas

  70. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:40 AM

    DJB– I think you have a point- someone or group of someone's is asleep at the wheel. Need to make adjustments. The guys seem to need a little more support and guidance instead of pat answers, stories and quips. Jayson, though- what a character .

  71. Joe Seamhead - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    David Proctor said…manda Comak โ€@acomak 18sAsked Jayson Werth how #nats can keep from drowning in struggles & hit stride. "Got to show up tomorrow ready to eat somebody's face."Well I suppose killing the opposition is one way to win games.——///-///Wow, Jayson taking the Werewolves of London to a new level!

  72. mick - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    Manass. I do all the time!!! you only cherry pick the ones you do not like and that makes me SICK!!!

  73. baseballswami - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:41 AM

    Sleepy time. Go Nats!!!!!!

  74. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:43 AM

    At this point neither is likely.Why are so negatie? It is like you rather be right than the Nats wi a game.That is why so many people jump on you.It appears you are happy about predicting doom. Real fans hate that.

  75. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:45 AM

    Harper will make everyone better.However if the majority of tge hitters stay below career aversges, even Harper cant save it. I believe most people near career averages.

  76. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:53 AM

    Correct mediocre so far.No more lossrs in June

  77. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:54 AM

    Was phanatic mobile tgere tonight. He took care of that.

  78. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:56 AM

    It doesn't really matter whose name is printed first in the standings tomorrow in the sense that I see no relevance in that with regards to any topics on here. If the Phillies win tomorrow, which we probably all dread and sort of expect, then the Phils will take 2nd again.This team is not the same team without Harper and no one has any clue when he is coming back. How long has it been already? A month? That is a long time for a mysterious injury.

  79. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:56 AM

    Its our team I cheer as if they will win every game. Never negative prediction.We are busting loose soon.No more losses in June

  80. paul brandt - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:57 AM

    "LESS" no i don't coach the team, i just cheer the kids on win or lose.

  81. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    Top 8 in a hat (ith Gio) throw all in the hat.That would loosen tge team for sure.Of course remeberNo more loses in June

  82. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:00 AM

    His post 1133.No more loses in June.

  83. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:04 AM

    For the record when below .500 most wins listed first, when above least losses listed first.

  84. 5c3cd06e-cef8-11e1-abe6-000bcdcb2996 - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:04 AM

    Two benefits of the Nat's poor performance thus far.1: No one is slamming dissenters with "In Rizzo we trust". 2: At this pace prices to the games on stubhub will come down

  85. Eric - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:04 AM

    "David Proctor said…manda Comak โ€@acomak 18sAsked Jayson Werth how #nats can keep from drowning in struggles & hit stride. 'Got to show up tomorrow ready to eat somebody's face.'"Ha! This kind of trivial hilarity is exactly why I love this guy. Levity is vastly underrated. Home runs in a hostile ballpark don't hurt either ;).

  86. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:06 AM

    I dont remember seeing real positive predictions. I will have to look for them from now on.Your negative are so plentiful.A real Nats fans might have a few negative predictions.

  87. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:07 AM

    I dont expect or ever expect it.

  88. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:08 AM

    He stole the keys to the phanaticmobile yesterday, and tgey coulnt get it restarted. Classic

  89. Joe Seamhead - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:11 AM

    I'm with you on Werth, Eric. Gotta love that guy's schlick.

  90. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:12 AM

    I hate having fat fingers.Last 8 homers solo. Zim hit a 2 run homer last Thursday in Colorado.

  91. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:14 AM

    As poor as the execution has been could you imagine the grief the 2 Los Angeles teams are hearing.

  92. Eric - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:15 AM

    Didn't he do that late last year, too, MNF? I remember some kind of shenanigans with the Phanatic mobileJoe:"Gotta love that guy's schlick."That just sound dirty ;)

  93. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:16 AM

    Posey just made a play similar to Suzuki's earlier tonight.Speaking of tgat play, Span made a great throw.He needs to walk more as well as drop more bunts

  94. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:17 AM

    He got on it, but didn't drive it.Lot of his Shenanigans were focused on helping Teddy win

  95. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:17 AM

    We started off 7-2 and had the Braves dead to rights at home in the next game. That was a pretty good start. Those were good times until Heyward got the key hit and started us on a 3 game series loss to the Braves.

  96. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:20 AM

    The Friday night game was the Zim throwing to right field game.

  97. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:26 AM

    I notice Morse is not playing tonight? Is he injured again?

  98. Scott Margenau - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    DP for President of this Bolg! Dude…u truly are the voice of reason. Mick…u need to settle! We are all bummed…but maybe a little positive vibe from US the fans is what they need to "get loose" :-)

  99. Joe Seamhead - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM

    I think that as irritated as I get with our OF situation, I'd be infuriated if I was a Braves fan. I know that error tell a small part of an outfield's story. many miscues are not ruled errors, but our whole outfield has only been charged with 5 errors. Meanwhile the Uptons have 8 between them, in addition to numerous miscues that aren't ruled errors. Between the strikeouts, errors, and money committed the Braves have to be very concerned. Though being 7 games in front will temper their concern for a while.

  100. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:34 AM

    Joe, watching the Bravesthey are not unbeatable at 7.5 down if we start hitting in the 260s instead of 232

  101. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:36 AM

    2 games still going both in bot of 7 giants 3-2 over Padres and Seattle 2-1 over the Angels.No more losses in June.

  102. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    Not sure who home ump in Giant game. The strike 3 just called was a foot outside. Wow worse call of the night.

  103. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:42 AM

    Home plate ump is Manny Gonzalez. He is first ump born in Venezuela.Interesting batter was Marco Scootero also a Venezelean.

  104. Oldguy - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:44 AM

    Okay, lots of rethinking to do. Mets sweep Atlanta. Interesting stuff going on elsewhere–Boston, Houston, etc. It now seems as though our 2010 and 2011 teams were better than their records–I thought so at the time. Go back and rethink 2011: If we had not had the manager shakeup–not blaming anybody–I just think that team that finished strong showed a lot.I now think last year was a bit of a fluke–at the start everybody thought our come-of-age year would be this year. No one expected us to have the best record in baseball last year, but we arrived early. I think Boz, among others, would agree that maybe we got there too fast. Then Davey's world series talk in April, which was way premature and not very smart, put the wrong ideas in our guys' head and pissed off everybody else. Can't you hear them gloating in Philly right now? We owned the Phillies back a while–all right, we won the season against them–and now where are we?The team is eating humble pie, and it's not all their fault. If they get over it, we may be playing "meaningful games in October." (Rizzo was always right to use that phrase–moderate, a reasonable goal.) But world series? You don't ever want to predict that. Not ever. Eight teams have never won a world series. Quite a few other have won only a few. The Phillies, for example, have won 3 in 130 years! The last 4 teams to go to their first world series have a collective record of 2-16. And the Rangers, for example, finally got there but haven't won yet.The only thing that will get this team's heads on straight is patience. Nothing is fore-ordained. My NL team growing up was the Giants–I saw Willy Mays play at the Polo Grounds in NY. And the greatest year for me until 2004 was 1951. Thirteen games behind in late August. Finished 37-7, and then Bobby Thompson finished it off. My best friend Dodger fan couldn't even spit for a month.Swami's comment the other night about sitting back and enjoying the games is the way to go.

  105. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:46 AM

    Tomorrow a quadupleheader.First Dodgers @ YanksSecond Padres @ GiantsThird Nats @ PhilliesFourth Mariners @ Angels.I love Wednesdays and Thursdays during the summer. 4 games mosts days for old farts like me.

  106. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:49 AM

    My only addition the team that is hot at the end and makes the playoffs sually does well.Willie Mays on Deck when Thompson hit the homer.

  107. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 4:51 AM

    No 400 game Thursday so hopeully 215 game goes extra innings to make it 4 full games not just 3.5 games

  108. John C. - Jun 19, 2013 at 5:30 AM

    Mick, you make negative predictions day after day, week after week, and month after month. Every now and then you may get one right, but overall your batting average is below the Espinosa Line. That you want to pat yourself on the back is far more surprising than the collective yawn from your fellow NIers when you stumble over a correct prediction.

  109. John C. - Jun 19, 2013 at 5:39 AM

    Of course, Thompson's HR (and the team's comeback) was helped considerably by the fact that the Giants had a guy in the stands stealing signs & relaying the to the batter.

  110. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 19, 2013 at 6:04 AM

    It has become very, very hard for the "best" team in baseball to win the world series since they added the extra round back in the mid-90's. Assuming each round is essentially a coin flip, each team has about a 13 percent chance of winning it all. We were a bit fooled by the Yankees doing so well in the late 90's but that wore off. The Braves are a better example. Going back to 1982, they have been in the play-offs 15 years, I believe and made it to only 4 World Series and won only one.

  111. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    Didn't the Giants have to play a lot of road games that summer? I am not sure how it played out but I think that whole thing about stealing signs was way overblown. Weren't they still stealing signs when the Yankees wiped them out 4-1 in the World Series a few days later?

  112. Rabbit34 - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Harper is going to be rushed back, play for about a week, then be out for the rest of the season. Watch.

  113. NewbieNatsFan - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    I personally loved Jayson Werth's comment. "Eat somebody's face." It speaks to the passion, aggressiveness, and confidence this team needs. I think there is a bit of a depressive, Eeyore mentality going on. The Phil's rally last night is exactly what the nat's need to show. They opened with small ball getting a runnner on base. Could have patiently worked him around the bases, yet they had the kind of confidence to make even more happen. Not disconnected, random luck, but a determined attack.I'm picturing the squad with faces painted half red, screaming as they charge out of the dugout.Strong individual performances, especially pitching, just won't cut it. Confidence in each other and a "take no prisoners attitude."GYFNG-ESF!

  114. JaneB - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Newbie, nice new rally cry: GYFNG-ESF! I'm down with it!

  115. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Love the negative prediction

Archives

NL EAST STANDINGS

W L GB
x-WASHINGTON 91 64 --
ATLANTA 76 79 15.0
NEW YORK 76 80 15.5
MIAMI 74 81 17.0
PHILADELPHIA 71 85 20.5
x-Clinched NL East title
Through Sunday's games

NL PLAYOFFS STANDINGS

W L GB WCGB
x-WASHINGTON (4) 91 64 --
y-LOS ANGELES 89 67 2.5
y-ST. LOUIS 87 68 4.0
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SAN FRANCISCO 84 71 7.0 --
PITTSBURGH 84 71 7.0 --
MILWAUKEE 80 76 11.5 4.5
x-Clinched division title
y-Clinched playoff berth
Through Sunday's early games

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WED: Mets at Nats, 7:05 p.m.
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FRI: Marlins at Nats (DH), 1:05 p.m., 7:05 p.m.
SAT: Marlins at Nats, 4:05 p.m.
SUN: Marlins at Nats, 1:35 p.m.
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