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Game 91: Nats at Phillies

Jul 10, 2013, 7:34 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

PHILADELPHIA — The Nationals have lost two straight and have once again fallen into an offensive abyss. The good news: They're sending Gio Gonzalez to the mound tonight and their two other aces to the mound the next two nights, so there's still hope.

As detailed earlier this morning, the Nationals are something of an unstoppable force when either Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann or Stephen Strasburg is on the mound (playing at a 101-win pace). So Gio's presence on the mound tonight can only be considered a good thing.

On the other hand, Cliff Lee starts for the Phillies, and that's not a good matchup for the Nationals, who have struggled to hit lefties (MLB-worst .215 batting average) and have struggled to hit control artists like Lee, who has built an entire reputation on throwing strikes and getting quick outs.

So, something's got to give tonight. We'll see what does. Updates to come…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Where: Citizens Bank Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 187
Weather: Partly cloudy, 82 degrees, Wind 11 mph out to RF

NATIONALS (46-44)
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
LF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman

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329 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Home run derby.Lee needs to throw a ball.

  2. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    WOW. Just Wow.And Zim's was on 0-2.

  3. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    One thing about Zimm is that he surprises me how he can go from looking clueless to smacking homers….

  4. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Yup, Ryan Zimmerman needs to sit.

  5. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Is this the real Cliff Lee?

  6. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Cliff Lee is HaRen'ing tonight.

  7. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    My my my. That is impressive. But fire Eck!

  8. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Righties can't hit Lee.What does ALR want right over the heart of the plate.

  9. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    This is the greatest homer hitting team ever….

  10. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    I just wish we had some men on base during some of these HRs. Game would be over if so.

  11. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    man oh man, when we are hitting we are a fun team to watch, keep it up boys…Rendon started this all off.

  12. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Hmmmm…Either FP or Carp said that Cliff lee doesn't give up homers. "Don't expect to see the long ball." Glad they were WRONG!

  13. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    If we dont cut out games like Monday and Tuesday.

  14. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    why do they even pitch to Ramos with the pitcher behind him

  15. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Dang Ramos just got robbed. He can hit.

  16. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    I know Revere isn't supposed to be a good fielder but man he makes some plays. Just robbed RAMos.

  17. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    That's the thing about swinging for home runs–sometimes you get one, but it's a solo shot if everybody is doing it.

  18. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    I think Cliff Lee is just cutting his price making it easy to trade him outta Philly. GYFNG!

  19. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    I know Revere isn't supposed to be a good fielder but man he makes some plays. Just robbed RAMos.He's no Nook Logan.; )

  20. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Rob Maaddi‏@RobMaaddi5m Cliff Lee gave up 9 HRs in first 135.2 IP this season and 4 in last 8 batters.

  21. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    I think Mark must be down in the seats. Stay there, man, we still need that .7 run.

  22. phil dunton - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Nats must have the highest percentage of solo homers in MLB.

  23. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… If we dont cut out games like Monday and Tuesday.It sure wasn't due to the pitching, it was the non-clutch hitting.

  24. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    nice to have ALR there…not many 1b make that pick…good first out.

  25. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    That was a very nifty grab by LaRoche. Most MLB first basemen don't get that. Deceptively tough play.And have I mentioned how much I like watching Span run under balls, and then wait for them, instead of cruising to them? I like that.

  26. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:50 AM

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  27. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    paul brandt said… nice to have ALR there…not many 1b make that pick…good first out.That's his added value! What gets my lid is that the Nats infielders make way too many poor throws and LaRoche isn't going to be here long-term.

  28. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Sec. 3, My Sofa said… I think Mark must be down in the seats. Stay there, man, we still need that .7 run.Glad you got my back on that one! Want that extra .70#4.70

  29. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Well assuming Zim moves to 1B, that removes one of the worst offenders as far as throwing. And as far as picking, Zim has shown a good ability to pick the ball (although picking at 3B is much different than 1B). We'll see how that all plays out.

  30. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    i wonder if ther's ever been a game where all 8 position players hit a hr.

  31. A DC Wonk - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    How much do we love it when Werth hits a HR against the Phillies…?

  32. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    I should also add Zim hasn't made a throwing error in over a month so maybe he's not the worst offender anymore. But regardless.

  33. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Sec3, haha.Ghost, yep, ALR really makes it look easy.

  34. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    woah… span against lefties…he's likely below the espinosa line

  35. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    Span's career numbers against lefties are still very good. This season is just weird. I don't get it.

  36. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    OK, paul brandt, you're on the NIDO list

  37. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    FP clearly has no idea who the Buffalo Soldiers were. 3 more innings guys. What a great game to win if we can hold on.

  38. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    yes…maybe new league, DP ?

  39. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    These are NL lefties….

  40. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Yeah guys often struggle when moving from one league to another. I guess that's it. I still don't really get it though.

  41. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    Sofa, many thanks, my 1st official drink…will never forget it.

  42. phil dunton - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    All four of Ruf's homers are against Nats pitching; three last year and one this year.

  43. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    jeffwx, not sure, but the record for most player on a team to homer in the same game in the AL is 7, done 3 times, and 8 in the NL, done once.Baseball Almanac

  44. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Yeah Ruf is a Nats killer. Like Jordany Valdespin.

  45. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Frandsen bunting for a hit with the lefty behind him?

  46. SonnyG10 - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Hi gang. I'm on a camping trip again. This time in Pennsylvania overnight on my way to Niagra Falls. No TV and no radio here so I'm getting my updates from you folks. Be my eyes and ears.

  47. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    thanks sofa

  48. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Bryce made me nervous there on the Revere line out.

  49. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Frandsen bunting for a hit with the lefty behind him?Well, to be fair, it *was* a hit. Doesn't really matter what kind at that point.

  50. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Time for Bryce to join the HR Derby.

  51. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Harper is the polar opposite of Span when it comes to making things look easy. Harper makes it look hard.

  52. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    David Proctor said…Yeah Ruf is a Nats killer. Like Jordany Valdespin.July 10, 2013 9:05 PMDP, so true and Giancarlo Stanton, man is he scary.

  53. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Just watching the highlight between innings on MASN–the fan near the Nats dugout just giving Werth the DEATH GLARE as he came back into the dugout after his home run was hilarious.

  54. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Finally the Nats knock a Phillies pitcher out sort of early ;)

  55. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    As Annie would note, Harper is pulling his hips out.

  56. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Sec. 3, My Sofa said… Frandsen bunting for a hit with the lefty behind him?Well, to be fair, it *was* a hit. Doesn't really matter what kind at that point. July 10, 2013 9:08 PM Good for him. There were 2 outs. You have to know who's batting behind you. If it was Michael Young, sure. It's like stealing 2nd with your best hitter up next in an obvious Int Walk situation.

  57. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    But making things look easy is not a verifiable statistic and is one of the "skills" that GMs and scouts are most likely to overestimate, and GMs/scouts, more than anyone….

  58. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    maybe Harper needs to shave his beard before his next AB like Desi, even if it's tomorrow.

  59. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    That's an emory/shiner/spit ball

  60. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    It's like stealing 2nd with your best hitter up next in an obvious Int Walk situation. No, it's not. It's not at all like that. Getting to first is good, no matter how. He was sure he could beat that out, it was a smart situational play.

  61. BigCat - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Zim needs help at the plate

  62. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Zim is having one of the best offensive seasons of his career. He doesn't need help.

  63. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Dang ALR just got robbed. Werth with a nice takeout slide but it didnt matter.

  64. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Sofa, with 1 out or no out fine. He's a pinch-hitter that Charlie wants to hit it in the seats. I guarantee you Cholly wasn't happy about that. Did you see how badly Gio K'd Revere on the AB before that?I think NatsJack and some of the others would agree with me.

  65. A DC Wonk - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    I know everybody does it these days, but I don't like those one handed catches. Back n the day (am I remembering right?) that was hotdogging, no?

  66. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    ALR robbed big time. That took away an insurance run.

  67. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    1 every 13 innings going into tonight.

  68. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    They're down three–Cholly wants anything but baserunners and the pitcher in a stretch, he's more nuts than even Phillies fans think. He's an excellent bunter and fast enough to know Zim can't throw him out on even a halfway decent bunt, and he can get a good pitch because nobody is expecting it. Which is exactly what happened. If he'd lined the ball into center for a single, that's a hit, and a good outcome. It doesn't matter how far a hit goes, it's a hit.

  69. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Gio with his 1 run performance just moved into 14th in NL ERA at 3.03

  70. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    About .150. Career wasnt that big a spead it is the Barbaro effect.

  71. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Clippard has been absolutely fantastic this season. Reliable. He struggled maybe a little to start the season, but wow is he putting together a season. Consistent.

  72. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    It is easy the Barbaro effect.

  73. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Nice hit….

  74. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Ah, that doubles machine is working again!

  75. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    On a 1-2, Rendon doubles. Just incredible. Rendon and Werth could teach these guys how to approach working the count.Did I tell you I love this kid.

  76. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Rendon for David Price?

  77. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    don't get hurt big fella

  78. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Ryan Zimmerman special is $11? Why 11?

  79. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Did Ramos hit *that* one in de seats?No, Justin DeFratus.Thanks, I'm here all week!Try the veal!

  80. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    WODL, wow!sorry, i like the kid and his upside so no but what the heck do i know?

  81. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    I second that

  82. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    I wouldn't give up Rendon for Price. I want a guy who can make an impact every day over a guy who can do it every 5th day.

  83. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    OK, Hairston. Here comes your .7, Ghost…

  84. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Didn't know Delmon Young could make that throw. The book on him is not a great arm.

  85. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    squeeze davey

  86. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    I told big cat bunt before they said it.

  87. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Davey should have pinch-run for Wilson Ramos.

  88. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    OK, pulling a soft grounder to second actually works, here, Denard …

  89. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Cholly is scheduling the PFP for tomorrow morning as we speak …

  90. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Swinging bunt

  91. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Second time this year Desmond has been IBB'd to get to Harper.

  92. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    They're walking Desi in front of Bryce???

  93. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    sofa, nice call dude!!!!!!!!!!!the old swingin bunt!

  94. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Please make them pay Bryce!

  95. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    I wouldn't trade Rendon either. He may have the best hitting approach on the team and I am pretty sure that he does. He seems to have a great attitude and also a great head of hair. Boswell mentioned him as trade bait for Price or another pitcher, however…..

  96. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Beat me to it. In a week's time

  97. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Sec 3, we got our 4.70. Time to get greedy!

  98. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Man, this is the second time Desmond gets IBB to get to Harper. C'mon, All-Star, show 'em what you got.Wow, he aired that first one out.

  99. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Still pulling his hips …

  100. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    David, I agree. Pitchers get hurt. Rendon will be good (and fairly cheap) for years and year.

  101. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    They really, really don't want to give up the 4-spot here–looks like they'd rather risk walking him if they can't get him to fish.

  102. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    They got him to fish. Nothing biting. Ass heading toward the first base dugout.

  103. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Does anyone know if Rendy graduated from Rice or what his status there was? Rice is known for being the Swarthmore of Texas….

  104. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    This guy works slower than Storen.

  105. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    NatsLady said… David, I agree. Pitchers get hurt. Rendon will be good (and fairly cheap) for years and year. Rizzo would do it if Price signed an extension otherwise NO.Aren't you all glad Rizzo didn't give in to trading Rendon during the Hot Stove.

  106. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    Not interedted

  107. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    Tucking it up here, boss.

  108. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    Ghost, was Rizzo every close to trading Rendon? I don't think so. He went and signed Haren and called it a meeting. Then Boras talked him into Soriano.

  109. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    H-Rod just walked in a run.

  110. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Zim a golden Sombraro plus a homer

  111. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Since SI predicts the Nats and the Rays in the World Series, I don't think we have to worry about a Rendy for Price trade.

  112. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    Loeffy, it doesn't look like it.Anthonly Rendon on Wikipedia

  113. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    Hey MASN director — Next time keep the camera on Soriano while he talks to his hat. Please!

  114. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    WODL, someone will correct me if wrong, but think Rendon finished just 2 years at Rice.

  115. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Henry walked in a run AFTER he cleared the bases by giving up a home run.Homer (2-run), single, single, walk, walk. Pitching change.

  116. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Dan Kolko ‏@masnKolko 9sHenry Rodriguez faced 5 batters tonight with the Cubs. He didn't retire any of them. Homer, single, single, walk, walk.

  117. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Ha Ha, paul, I just pulled even!

  118. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Well, as a responsible student athlete, I am sure Rendy (like Espy and Desi, get it?) will graduate soon….

  119. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    I owe you one, NL.

  120. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Denard really doesn't like slamming into walls, does he? Which speaks well for his good sense.

  121. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    If he could just hit lefties and steal a few bases, Span could win over my heart…..

  122. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Oh Denard! Awesome play and may you be okay. That was a killer catch!

  123. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Span has had concussion issues in his career. Hope he's okay.

  124. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    UNTUCKED

  125. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Gee, that was a LOT more fun than last night.Toast a good one, go get 'em tomorrow.

  126. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Oh man. hRod didn't improve with the change in venue. I hoped better for him. But man am I grateful he can't so that to us anymore.It shouldn't be, but life feels better when they win.

  127. paul brandt - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    think Ray has had a few virtual drinks…wow!!Sofa, ha! don't know how to fix the NIDO, can you do so?

  128. SonnyG10 - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Yeah! Nats win!! Thanks for all the commentary, NIers.

  129. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    can do, paul. FYI, I'll have add you to the left side.

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