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Game 91: Nats at Phillies

Jul 10, 2013, 7:34 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

PHILADELPHIA — The Nationals have lost two straight and have once again fallen into an offensive abyss. The good news: They're sending Gio Gonzalez to the mound tonight and their two other aces to the mound the next two nights, so there's still hope.

As detailed earlier this morning, the Nationals are something of an unstoppable force when either Gonzalez, Jordan Zimmermann or Stephen Strasburg is on the mound (playing at a 101-win pace). So Gio's presence on the mound tonight can only be considered a good thing.

On the other hand, Cliff Lee starts for the Phillies, and that's not a good matchup for the Nationals, who have struggled to hit lefties (MLB-worst .215 batting average) and have struggled to hit control artists like Lee, who has built an entire reputation on throwing strikes and getting quick outs.

So, something's got to give tonight. We'll see what does. Updates to come…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Where: Citizens Bank Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 187
Weather: Partly cloudy, 82 degrees, Wind 11 mph out to RF

NATIONALS (46-44)
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
LF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman

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329 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Braves lose. Nats need to win. For that to happen, they need to hit. And score. And score a little more. GYFNG!

  2. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Nats win 1-0.

  3. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    Nats – 6Phillys – 3GYFNG!See yall game time…

  4. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:46 PM

    That Jacob Turner trade is looking good for the Marlins. Deficit at 5.5.

  5. Section 222 - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    For a second I thought you meant that the Marlins were now 5.5 back!

  6. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Ghost — Off topic, but per our exchange during College World Series — Hunter Renfroe finally signed with San Diego and has been assigned to the Eugene Ems. I'll see him, I expect, on Friday evening.

  7. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    And we can all be glad Chad Gaudin is no longer a Nat.

  8. Doc - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Davey is forgetting his sabermetrics again!Den Span doesn't hit lefties–Scott does, and did last night.C'mon Davey, get a grip!!!!!Eat Lee's face guys and stomp on the Philthies!!!!!!!!

  9. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Span is 7/24 against Lee in his career. Hairston is 6/28 against him. This will probably be a close game so all things being equal, Davey wants his best defense out there. Makes sense to me.

  10. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Adam LaRoche has hit .303/.388/.514 since May 1.

  11. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Matt Cain only lasted 2/3 of an inning. If the Mets win this game, they'll sweep the Giants, who have lost 32 of their last 47.

  12. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    I thought Mike Rizzo was clear, but others Hairston was brought to be a bench player and if the numbers dictate he would start a few games. Ge was not brought in to platoon with Span.Matt Cain already pulled in the first. Giants pitching has not lived close to its potentional.

  13. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Davis as disappointed as we are with runs scored, Giants fans are disappointed in their pitching.

  14. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Why are we glad Chad Gaudin isn't a Nat? Isn't he pitching well? 2.44 ERA? Did I miss something?

  15. natsfan1a - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Also, pitch well and don't throw or kick the ball around. And score more than the other team. That should do it. kthxbai.Eugene in Oregon said… Braves lose. Nats need to win. For that to happen, they need to hit. And score. And score a little more. GYFNG! July 10, 2013 3:41 PM

  16. James Joyce - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    I wish Davey would throw his best lineup out there too. Harper should not be hitting 3rd, he's the slugger and Zim is the pure hitter, and Lee is a very tough lefty. Desi has no place hitting 2 either, despite his recent success. Span, Rendon, Zim, Harper, Werth, ALR, Desi, Suzuki (who hits Leee well) is what they should be throwing out there tonight.

  17. do1teach1 - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    I got this email from the team:Nationals SS Ian Desmond and Yankees P David Robertson have teamed up for the 2013 All-Star Game Final Vote and need your support. Visit mlb.com/vote to cast your vote for the deserving duo, or text N1 and A3 to 89269 to vote for Desmond and Robertson, respectively. Unlimited voting ends July 11 at 4 p.m. ET. (End of copy/paste from email.)This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. Vote "Desi and D-Rob." Who in the hell is David Robertson and why do I care if this random pedestrian goes to an exhibition game?Also, since they've told me he's a really great pitcher who ought to go to the All Star game for the American League, does it make any sense for me to vote for him–knowing that if he does well and wins or saves the game for the AL, it could cost the Nationals home-field advantage in the World Series?Just absolute, epidemic, circular, mindless stupidity.

  18. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Read on twitter so take it with that in mind. Ron Harper will pitch to Bryce.

  19. James Joyce - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Chad has been accused of drunkenly groping ladies in emergency rooms, I think.

  20. JD - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    NatsLady, He really has pitched well although ERA for relievers means bupkes.It doesn't tell you about inherited runners stranded, messes you create which are cleaned up by someone else etc. Another 2 reasons ERA is such a flawed stat are: 1) Not all pitchers have the same defenses behind them. 2) Not all pitchers play in the same ball parks causing different environments not to mention dimensions.

  21. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Giant fans have thrown in the white flag and now are supprting Freeman as an anti Puig vote.

  22. JD - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:32 PM

    'Harper should not be hitting 3rd, he's the slugger and Zim is the pure hitter'. So what?

  23. TimDz - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    do1teach1….Atlanta fans and Toronto fans are doing the same thing (getting fans from both teams to vote for both the Atlanta rep- Freddie Freeman and the Toronto rep- I have NO idea who it is….Oddly enough, BOTH are leading in their respective leagues…

  24. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Last year down the stretch we led off Werth so how would this workWerthHarperZimLaRocheDesmondRendonBuffaloSpan

  25. skidge - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    On Chad Gaudin:http://t.co/ehKNyayjcV

  26. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    I didn't know about Gaudin's personal issues… I saw him pitch the other night and he pitched well, which startled me, because I'm just not used to thinking of Gaudin as a good pitcher. BTW he is no longer a reliever, he is in the Giant's rotation, such as it is.

  27. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    Well, that is certainly bizarre behavior. OK, I'm officially glad he's not a Nat…(Gaudin, that is).

  28. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… Read on twitter so take it with that in mind. Ron Harper will pitch to Bryce.So much for secrets getting out Rizzo! Bryce's dad Ron will start training tomorrow for the HR Derby by throwing BP over at Hagerstown.

  29. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    I kind of thought he should watch and just be a Dad. Who pitches BP for the Nats?

  30. paul brandt - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Harper should use Dan Haren as his HR derby pitcher…would be pretty funny.

  31. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    paul brandt said… Harper should use Dan Haren as his HR derby pitcher…would be pretty funny.That is roll over funny! I wish it was a player from another team we were laughing about.

  32. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    baseballswami said… I kind of thought he should watch and just be a Dad. Who pitches BP for the Nats? Cano had his Dad pitch to him and it turned out to be a great story.I think it was FP who suggested this after hearing Bryce was going to be in the HR Derby.

  33. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

    But Cano's Dad is a professional baseball player and coach. Ron Harper is a stud, but I don't know about this.

  34. A DC Wonk - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    paul brandt said… Harper should use Dan Haren as his HR derby pitcher…would be pretty funny.Count me in the LOL group on that one, too.

  35. nats guy - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    I don't care about Gaudins issues either. Hell Ian Krol had one which is the reason we acquired him so cheaply.

  36. A DC Wonk - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    baseballswami said… But Cano's Dad is a professional baseball player and coach. Ron Harper is a stud, but I don't know about this.Hey — what the heck — the Kid is only 20. (And I suspect he'll be back for future HR competitions). If he has a good relationship with his dad, what a great and fun bonding experience!

  37. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    Definitely the post of the day– or week?! And not a bad idea.

  38. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Actually rhat would be funny

  39. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Dan Kolko ‏@masnKolko nowChristian Garcia suffered a hamstring injury, Davey says. Will miss his next scheduled appearance at Triple-A. Can't seem to stay healthy.I feel for the guy, but he's damaged goods. Relying on him for anything would be foolish.

  40. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    He pitched to him a lit through school so I have been told.

  41. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Sorry, I think there is a difference between using a gay slur in a tweet (not that I approve) and what Gaudin is accused of (not that he is convicted, however). Plus, Gaudin is not a kid, he is thirty and a married man. No one knows why he was in that hospital in the first place.

  42. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Hmmmm–I dunno, a hamstring injury and he is only missing one start? They have a 7-day DL in the minors… Is he going on it?Sounds more like they haven't decided yet who would go down if he comes up. His thirty days of rehab must be over. Not that I'm suspicious or anything…It's just very coincidental…

  43. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    On May 31 the Giants were 29-24 and 1 game out in the NL West. They are now 40-49 and about to be 40-50. That's the kind of losing the Nats have NOT done–> no matter how much we complain about nibbling around .500.The hole is not deep. We saw over the last week how quickly a few games in the standings can be made up.

  44. JD - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    NL, I think you nailed it. The obvious 1st choice I think is Ross O. but at the same time Garcia has been pitching 1 inning at a time and they need someone to eat innings especially with our current 4 & 5 situation. I think they would like Stammen to be the long guy but he has put a kibosh on these plans. Also when Matheus returns I think one of the lefties goes back and I think Krol has been better and has more upside than Abad. Of course there is always the possibility of a trade.

  45. JD - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    NL, The hole is not deep but as the days roll forward the deficit becomes more significant. If the Braves would have played even a bit better they could have put us away by now. They have the White Sox and the Mets after the break and we have the hot Dodgers and Pittsburgh. We have to find a way to cut into the deficit at least back to where we were a couple of days ago.

  46. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    NatsLady said… On May 31 the Giants were 29-24 and 1 game out in the NL West. They are now 40-49 and about to be 40-50. That's the kind of losing the Nats have NOT done–> no matter how much we complain about nibbling around .500.The hole is not deep. We saw over the last week how quickly a few games in the standings can be made up. July 10, 2013 5:31 PM I'm loving it since I predicted here 2 weeks ago that I thought the Dodgers would take the NL West with 86 wins.At the time I figured the Giants or DBacks for 2nd place.The Giants pitching has now fallen apart. Things are so bad the Cubs now have a better record!

  47. NatsLady - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    JD, absolutely. I said a few days ago Davey has to get out of "teaching mode." He should have lifted Jordan after five, he was tired, leaving pitches up and they were getting hits. Sorry the kid would not have gotten the win, but better a no-decision than a loss.

  48. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    The fact that the Giants are tanking is only relevant if you happen to know they are going to come back and win. Otherwise, they're just another team that's tanking, in their old classic June Swoon.

  49. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    I would love to see somebody come up to the plate and gaze admiringly into the bleachers, and when the ump or catcher asks what he's looking at, say "I was just admiring the home run I hit two weeks ago."

  50. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    We kid because we care.

  51. SCNatsFan - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    It just feels like a must win game… So lets win.

  52. karlkolchak - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    We got Krol cheap because prior to this year he hadn't been anything special on the field. The light went on for him this year–simple as that. Hopefully, he learned from his mistake.

  53. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    That must have taken some doing:Gaudin charged with lewdness in Las Vegas

  54. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    The Gaudin incident happened in January; he is only just now being charged.

  55. JD - Jul 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    Karlkolchak, Krol is 22 years old is a lefty, he throws gas and has good control. Sorry, we don't get him if he didn't have bad press for his gay slur.

  56. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    JD, that may be, I don't know, but FWIW, my "sources" in the Bay Area tell me he apologized, and it was pretty much forgotten locally.Ian Krol says he's matured since slur suspension (SF Chronicle)

  57. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Of all the places to use a gay slur, he does it in the Bay Area? It's never acceptable, but I mean really…

  58. Secret wasian man - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    Thank goodness Ramos is back. Will Ryan Zimm pout if the ump makes a bad strike call?

  59. Secret wasian man - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Just like of all the places to say what Jimmy the Greek said…….

  60. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    We are so focused on the Barves, but the Phils are breathing down our necks right now. And Cliff Lee is pitching tonight. Mets and Marlins have their moments where they are world beaters. Wacky stuff.

  61. natsfan1a - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Me, I prefer to run the bases backwards.Sec. 3, My Sofa said… I would love to see somebody come up to the plate and gaze admiringly into the bleachers, and when the ump or catcher asks what he's looking at, say "I was just admiring the home run I hit two weeks ago." July 10, 2013 5:45 PM

  62. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Cat chaser, maybe…

  63. Scott Margenau - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    Why is DSpan starting vs Cliff Lee? Did last night 2/5 tell us nothing? SHar is a better lead off period…look at his stats, especially vs lefties! This is insane! Com on Davey! End Rant. That said i am now using reverse double knock to help DSpan gor 3/4. Then i will eat a double crow sandwich. GYFNG!

  64. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    DSpan is our starter. Hairston is a bench player. This will not be a platoon. End of story. Anyone listening to Ray Knight?? He sounds very openly frustrated with the team's hitting approach and the lack of adjustments being made. Welcome to that party, Ray.

  65. BigCat - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Interesting quotes from Hamel about Werth. A lot of respect there. I will say that Jason is looking more n more like that Phillie guy who terrorized us. He just flicked his wrists last night and the ball was gone

  66. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Span has better numbers against Lee than Hairston. That's why.

  67. That Old-School, Prestigious Way of Scooter - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    See, the first step is to learn from what you've observed. The next step is to learn the right thing. "Scott Hairston is a better leadoff hitter" is not, in my view, the right lesson from last night's handful of plate appearances.

  68. hiramhover - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Who's afraid of small sample sizes? Not Scott M!

  69. karlkolchak - Jul 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    JD – Krol was a 7th round pick who had an ERA of 5.20 last year. As I said–nothing special. Not to mention, he was the PTBNL in that deal. Cole was the big enchilada of that trade for the Nats. I seriously doubt Krol's previous mistake had anything to do with him being traded.

  70. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    In 2010, Krol pitched 140 innings with a 2.80 ERA. Krol was very highly regarded in the A's organization. He struggled a bit last year because he was injured in 2011. From everything I've read, the A's still viewed him as a pretty good prospect. Whether or not his slur played into him being traded, I don't know, but he wasn't complete crap for the A's.

  71. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Interesting that lefties actually hit Lee significantly better than righties.

  72. baseballswami - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    So it sounds to me like we have no chance tonight. Guess we should just forfeit now.

  73. A DC Wonk - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Doc said… Davey is forgetting his sabermetrics again! Den Span doesn't hit lefties–Scott does, and did last night. C'mon Davey, get a grip!!!!!Doc, with all due respect, Davey knew sabermetrics before it was even invented. For real.And here's a great example:This season:Cliff Lee against righties: BAA .207Cliff Lee against lefties: BAA .268So, maybe Davey — a masters degree in math — is smarter than some of us.(And David Proctor, I owe you a beer!)

  74. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Need 5 or more runs. Only lost twice when we score that much.

  75. A DC Wonk - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Cole was the big enchilada of that trade for the Nats.Cole pitched 3 scoreless innings today. (Only three, because he's playing in the futures game)

  76. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Lefties batting .500 tonight

  77. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Good hit, Bryce… I was sitting here just cussing Desi something serious for 1 pitch 1 out….

  78. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    What the hell was that Zimm?????

  79. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    wash on, wash off, breathe in, breathe out…stay calm Mick, lol

  80. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    My goodness 3 pitches over the plate and Zim didnt look like he was ready. The first right in the middle.With 2 trikes anything close you swing. Too easy to call a strike.This is where I say is where Eck does mothing. He should be ssking him why he didnt swing

  81. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    To be fair to Ryan: you almost never see him get angry over ball/strike calls. These last two days, he's looked befuddled by the zone. And can you blame him? It's been all over the place.

  82. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    David… I will not blame umpire…Bryce hit the ball as well as others will tonight…no excuse or spin for Zim…simply not his best at bat

  83. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    I'm not excusing Zim, he needs to swing if it's close given how bad these umps have been. Just saying that you can tell how frustrated he is because he normally doesn't act like that.

  84. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    First pitch to Revere basically same and called strike too.Did we scout Revere. Throwing it right where he wants it.

  85. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    GIDP, NICE!

  86. Secret wasian man - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Does Zimm even care? Is he trying to win? Just awful. Heck put Miguel in, at least he will try. ( bad news bears)

  87. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    The problem of course was strike 1 easily was the best pitch to hit and lsid off. With Cliff Lee the first pitch is always tge most hittable pitch.

  88. Secret wasian man - Jul 10, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    It zimm is going to pout about the umps let him do it on the bench. Put in Lombo.

  89. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Come on, Gio painted the corner. Same as pitch 2 against Span.

  90. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Ghost…i agree, Nats have to play through these homer umpires

  91. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Much better than typical Gio first though 16 pitches to .3. Battees is too many.

  92. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    good inning for Gio

  93. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    MNF said The problem of course was strike 1 easily was the best pitch to hit and lsid off. With Cliff Lee the first pitch is always tge most hittable pitch.====If you are talking Zimm's at bat… First pitch looked like it was below his knees… But the 2nd pitch was right at crush level…. That's the pitch he should have swung on….

  94. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    good news is Werth has brought his A game this series…he is seeing the ball well

  95. A DC Wonk - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… The problem of course was strike 1 easily was the best pitch to hit and lsid off.If that's the case, then he needed to be more aggressive, right? Swing at those? That's exactly what Davey's been saying, and people here are criticizing Davey for this.OTOH, and FWIW, Charlie and Dave said that the first pitch was not a strike.

  96. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    I always liked the low pitches. The second was good to hit too.Noticed Werth swung at first two as tgey were hittable.

  97. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan all my coaches I had always told us to lay off the first pitch the first time through the batting order

  98. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    I liked the lows pitches too, verse a lefty

  99. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    I am not in Davey',s camp as he is not a opposite field guy I amI am also hit tge first good fast ball in the direction it needs to go camp.Cliff Lee throw so few balls and fast balls early, to wait is fool hearty.

  100. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    I was always taught to see at least 5 pitches my first time thru the order… Nats need to show some patience… Make the pitcher show you what he's got….

  101. mick - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    your right about Lee Manassas Nats' Fan

  102. Secret wasian man - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    I can't believe i sit here night after night hoping this team will score some runs. I'm done. I'm sure nobody here will care. Mick, good for you for trying to be positive. Personally this team is NOT worth it. GUTLESS underachieving pathetic losers. I'll post back on game 162. When we try to get our 74th win

  103. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    LOL SWM

  104. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Against most pitcher that is the practice. Against Cliff Lee that is not the best practice.

  105. BigCat - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Michael Young. Nat Killer

  106. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Zim didnt follow your coach's instruction .he saw 3

  107. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    You said last night your skipping last 2 games. Be a man of your word.Remembers Nats will win the east.

  108. phil dunton - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Secret Wasian, I share your pain.

  109. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    One thing about it… Ramos has an awesome bat right now…

  110. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Tip of the cap…

  111. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    FP is idiot. A 10 foot bunt is not a good bunt. 15 feet would be good

  112. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Big Cat. Keith Howell for bunt coach and hitting coach. Agree?

  113. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    The bunt wasn't bad given the pitch. Lee threw a curveball.

  114. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Just remember, you can't believe everything you read on the Internet.

  115. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Can we make Rick Eckstein's nickname in here officially be "Barbaro"? Just wondering.

  116. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    It needed to be bunted at least 5 feet more, that the bunter can take care.Just as Big Cat if Keith Howell coaches bunts great.

  117. SCNatsFan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Gonna be hard tonight after a season of struggles against lhp but we have to get the job done.

  118. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Did we even hit Lee last time?

  119. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Barbaro is fine.

  120. phil dunton - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Why isn't Hairston is LF and Harper in CF this evening?

  121. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Geez, horrible call at second. Out by three feet, easy.

  122. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    The neighborhood play has been around for ever. Why call it tgere.

  123. David Proctor - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Span hits Lee better than Hairston. Also, that should've been called an out.

  124. ExposedinDC - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Fundamental baseball and its 1-0 nats……frustrating

  125. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    His foot might have been off, but umps for safety almost never call it.

  126. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Why Span.

  127. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Good job Gio…. Blue – unh unh unh…

  128. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Why Barbaro.

  129. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    For the record, the one replay they showed on MASN was not at a good angle to show Desmond's foot, but it looked to me like he was there.

  130. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    FWIW, meteorological heck is suddenly breaking loose here in mid-DC.

  131. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Sec. 3, My Sofa said… For the record, the one replay they showed on MASN was not at a good angle to show Desmond's foot, but it looked to me like he was there. July 10, 2013 8:00 PM If it was that close, then the runner is out. That is a BS call. Barksdale screws the Nats again.

  132. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    He could not possibly have been off the bag, if indeed he was at all, more than an inch, or an instant. He was stretching for the throw and "pulling" forward toward the mound. Bad call.

  133. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Hard as Desmond's hit was to left, i doubt Buffalo would score.

  134. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    mick said… Ghost…i agree, Nats have to play through these homer umpires I check the Pitch F/X after each game to see how fair the umps are and what I find is that the Nats seemingly never get the calls in their favor on Strikes/Balls. Not sure why that is. Maybe a carryover from being so bad. Then you get this year the Nats haven't received 2 GIDP neighborhood calls.Davey needs to yell some more.

  135. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    SEC 3 – I'm a mile away from Nats Park… I was just about to say – they need to delay the game… It's dark as heck outside…Then I realized we were in Philly…#doh

  136. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    Another point, the passiveness of Acta was years of the Nats getting screwed by the umps and they knew he wouldn't complain.

  137. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Rendon with a great stop. He got that as the ball was by him.

  138. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Now, THAT'S a play Danny would have made. Great job, Rendon!

  139. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Just got off phone with Big Cat.Both bemoaning Barbaro.Remember 5 or more runs we are 35-2

  140. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Dammit… My directv is messing up…. Ugh….

  141. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Rendon

  142. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    See, 0-2 count and Rendon spits on it. That probably makes his 2 strike average around .230 now.

  143. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    OMG that HR hit the fan right in the face.

  144. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    LOL! Make a great play, lead-off the next inning, and hit a home run!!!

  145. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Yes Rendon…. Thank you!

  146. phil dunton - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Rendon should be batting cleanup instead of Zimmerman.

  147. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    BUFFALO!

  148. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    I just love Rendon and Ramos. RR railroad

  149. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Buffalo

  150. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Yes Ramos!!!! Yes Ramos!!!!!

  151. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Ramos! Maybe the righties have Lee figured out?

  152. Drew - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    We needed some R & R.

  153. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    No do not call him a Buffali Soldier a slang term from 1870s

  154. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    I thought Desmond had that.

  155. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Rendy ran when he hit his homer. He didn't know that you are supposed to stand there with your hands on your hips….

  156. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Mrs B, I'm 3 miles on a line from Nats Park, and we're getting some donner und blitzen with serious wind. The worst of it seems to be south, I hope there's no tornadoes there.

  157. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Come on Harp, that was an awful AB.

  158. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    The contest of getting a hitting lesson from Zim.Harper took the lesson and didn't swing at 3

  159. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    I love Rendon and the Buffalo. Took two outta the park against Cliff Lee. Yeehaw!

  160. mick - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    now thats what I call some R&R

  161. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Need a shut down inning.

  162. A DC Wonk - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Did Ramos swing first pitch?

  163. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    So many good ABs then you got Span with weak contact and RZim's Ks which is the difference from piecing together a big lead.

  164. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    I agree he doesn't fit the profile, but who called him Buffalo Soldier?

  165. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Wonk, 2nd pitch.

  166. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Gio run the pitch count up by walking first batter on 8 pitch.That is not fundlemental baseball

  167. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    But as long as you brought it up …Buffalo Soldier

  168. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Last thing you can do is walk the leadoff guy, Gio. Especially when that guy is Delmon Young.

  169. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    35-2 with 5 runs 15-1 away 20-1 at home

  170. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    I'm more impressed by Rendon's AB. Young rookie, 0-2 count and he once again put together a great 2 strike at-bat.As I said yesterday that Rendon was scouted as the rare youngster who handles 2 strike counts like a professional hitter.

  171. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Sigh. Throw strikes, Gio. You can't start walking the world when you get a lead.

  172. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Come on Gio. You got a lead. Throw strikes. Get your head in it. The ump sucks. Get over it.

  173. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    My biggest bitch about McCatty he comes out to lste.As soon as 2-0 on first batter Desmond should have been in thete.Why are so slow to react?

  174. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Actually the first thing you do is walk the lead-off guy….

  175. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Ramos should bat cleanup

  176. Ron In Reston - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Ok, granted, I'm following the game on MLB Gameday, but apparently Gio shold just throw underhanded down the middle, it's the only was the jackmunch behind the plate is going to calla strike…..it's insane.

  177. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Ramos has actually said that he enjoys batting 8th. If it works for him, let him at it.

  178. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    This ump at 2nd base needs to be kicked upon with soil….

  179. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    In basketball that was the time for the make up call.

  180. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    I don't think FP knows the origins of what Buffalo Soldier is. Has the term changed?

  181. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said… This ump at 2nd base needs to be kicked upon with soil…. So true.

  182. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Inning should already be over but for these umps….

  183. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    I just stopped and crawled on the throw to second–that was another bad call. He was out. Very close, but no question. And is it me, or is FP going a bit Harry Carey on us, if you catch my drift?

  184. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Gio GIO GIO GIO GIO!

  185. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Wow. Just checked Cliff Lee's stats and given that he is a lefty, we shouldn't expect to win tonight….

  186. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    What a pitch by Gio and how's about Ramos getting his mitt in the spot to catch that foul tip! WOW!

  187. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Actually the first thing you do is walk the lead-off guy….+1

  188. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    I only know how it was used during calvary wars

  189. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    I think one of the best power hitters on the team should not be batting 8thSpan,rendon,harper,ramos,desi,alr,zimm,werth

  190. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    *stopped and crawled ON THE DVR/HD.And take the rosebush from my hair …

  191. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    FP

  192. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I agree with you. Ramos could certainly bat higher up. But if he likes batting 8th and he still puts up good numbers batting 8th…why mess with a good thing?

  193. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    These guys have similar stuff as lefties….

  194. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Buffalo SoldierFP, like many in here, doesn't waste time with rigor in his usage.

  195. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    He didn't get fooled that time.

  196. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    What was the count?

  197. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Better than pouting

  198. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    A day late but we will take it RZim! Nice shot. You killed that one!

  199. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Home Run Derby tonight apparently

  200. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    because, he'll like batting higher in the order and provide more production for the team.

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