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Game 92: Nats at Phillies

Jul 11, 2013, 7:46 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

They hit four homers and knocked out Cliff Lee last night, so the Nationals have to like their chances in tonight's series finale against Kyle Kendrick, right? Well, not necessarily. Though they've historically had success against the Phillies right-hander, they were thoroughly dominated by him only three weeks ago, held to one run and two hits on June 19.

The good news: Jordan Zimmermann starts for the Nationals in his final tune-up before next week's All-Star Game. The right-hander has been brilliant all year, of course, though his last two starts haven't quite lived up to his usual lofty standards (seven runs, 14 hits in 11 1/3 innings).

I am not in Philadelphia for the series finale at Citizns Bank Park. Had to hoof it back to Bethesda for tonight's episode of The Baseball Show, which airs at 11 p.m. on CSN. Hope you'll tune-in, and hope you'll enjoy the conversation here as always…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Where: Citizens Bank Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 187
Weather: Partly cloudy, 85 degrees, Wind 7 mph LF to RF

NATIONALS (47-44)
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
LF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman

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539 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. sjm308 - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    I know people will be clamoring for Ramos and he has been terrific but I think you get him to stay strong by giving him several days off a week. I realize Suzuki is not hitting but we certainly are not going to have a drop off in defense this game.It will be interesting to see how each week is divided now that Ramos is truly on a hot streak.Go Nats!!

  2. Knoxville Nat - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    A bit surprised that Davey has Werth batting in front of ALR. While I realize that Werth has been hot at the plate I would have thought DJ wanted to continue with the L,R,L,R arrangement as much as possible.Oh well, it's all good and hopefully KK of the Phoolies will serve up several balls in play and limit the number of K's on behalf of the Nats.

  3. Eric - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:52 PM

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  4. Eric - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Werth was ahead of ALR last night, too, yes? Either way, I agree it's surprising…

  5. A DC Wonk - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    ok, first: GYFNG!First?!A few questions/comments from the last threadWater23 said… Also, I really like Aoki as a 4th outfielder. Huh? Is he available? Why would they ever want to trade him? What could we trade for him?NatsLady said:Sorry, Wonk, but this will delay my series on the Opening Day Starters, which I know you like.Oh, goodness, don't apologize! That's a heckuva lotta work, even more so when you're not getting paid to do it!JD asked:I did a filter on rookies and Segura didn't show. Are you sure he's a rookie?No, he had too many plate appearances last year (163) to qualify. I think the limit is 130.

  6. Don - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Suzuki has hit Kendrick well in the past. They need this game tonight, Glad JZim is on the mound. Go Nats!

  7. Don - Jul 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    The whole L-R-L-R stuff is overrated. You face 5-6 inniings of a starter. You try to score as many runs as you can against that guy. You can adjust the matchups later to deal with releivers (after your best lineup has knocked the SP out, hopefully).

  8. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Hope one of the beats asks Davey about the lineup. Werth hit fifth last two nights against the lefties Lee and Lannan (Davey used to move Morse ahead of ALR in the lineup against lefties too). But against a RH pitcher, I think this is a first. Does Werth have really good numbers against Kendrick or something? Or maybe Davey is superstitious and wants to keep the same order (sans Ramos) that scored runs last night.

  9. natsfan1a - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Go, Bulldog! Go, NATS!!

  10. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    sjm, agreed about giving Ramos some days off. I am surprised Davey is leaving Werth in the 5 against the LHP but it also gives more seperation between the 1, 3 and 6 spots now if they go with Bastardo.

  11. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I agree that alternating Wilson and Kurt helps them both. I voted forever for Ian but it didn't seem to help much. I hope they have the brains to put him on the team anyway, because he can help them. But in the near term I hope we hit Kyle enough to give him nightmares. GYFNG! ESF!

  12. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    JD mentioned in the last thread that Espi is improving in Syracuse, not striking out as much and even had 2 XBHs yesterday. He suggests that Espi might replace Tracy on the bench if he keeps it up for another week. I think he might have been joking about it just taking one more week of good hitting for him to come back, but I think it would be a mistake to bring him up and have him sit on the bench. If he's really figured things out, he ought to keep raking at Syracuse to get his confidence back and lock in the adjustments he has made, until he's really needed here because of an injury. He's certainly not the LH bench bat we need for a playoff run.Don's comment on LRLR reminds me of something I was going to ask yesterday. Did Cholly just have a brain freeze when he decided to bring in a lefty to face Chad Tracy, allowing Davey to bring up Hairston instead?

  13. Get Your Re(n)d On - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    Once they lost Espi from the lineup, a straight LRLRLRS through the order was no longer possible. So it makes sense not to cluster all the lefthanders in the top five spots. Ergo, LaRoche moves down. It ain't rocket science.

  14. Tcostant - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    sjm308 just remember that Ramos will get four days off next week during All-star break. We need to win games right now, so I want Ramos in there expect for those day games after night games.

  15. Janus - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Also, since Rendon has replaced Espinosa, our starting lineup (with the regulars in) will always have a R-R in there somewhere. If we bat LaRoche in front of Werth that just means we'll end up with R-R-R at 6-7-8.

  16. Another_Sam - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Please, please please let this be the start of a roll.Play ball.

  17. Janus - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Oh dang…

  18. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Section 222 said… Did Cholly just have a brain freeze when he decided to bring in a lefty to face Chad Tracy, allowing Davey to bring up Hairston instead?Yes, big brain freeze but it turned out to be a non-factor. Cholly has made some horrible decisions in the series and if not for the ineptitude of the Nats hitters in the 8th and 9th inning on Tuesday and most of the game on Monday, the Nats would be up 3-0.

  19. andrew lang - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    Where's the Birthday Boy hiding today? Yes, you Jack.

  20. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    A non-factor? Hairston hit a sac fly. Think Tracy would have done that? I don't.

  21. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    NatsLady @ 4:20 p.m.,Thanks for the link to the Joaqim Soria piece; for those who haven't read it, it's not so much about Mr. Soria as about the need for caution by GMs in valuing relief pitchers (for the long-term, at least).

  22. UnkyD - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Tcostant: I want Ramos to get the rest he needs…every week. His knee was WRECKED, a little over a year ago, and I would give him at least 2days off, every week, for the rest of the year. Suzuki is an excellent b/u, and will hit, with more rest…

  23. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    Sec222, I think Chad Tracy could've made a productive out but I should have put a wink next to my sarcasm ;) again.

  24. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    Sec222, I just think that if Espi can regain the form he had late last year he is head and shoulders better than either Tracy and Lombo. Why wouldn't you want the best team possible?

  25. Tcostant - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    I read the Joakim Soria.Make me think of the Cheif and makes me worry about Storen.

  26. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    I believe Ramos will play about 60% of the time.The two will play better due to this.

  27. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Productive out = oxi moron

  28. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    JD, Espi needs to play most days. Do you think he would be a distraction pouting on the bench? I have visions of him pouting when he got those 1st days off earlier in the season when Lombo replaced him.

  29. Eric - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    "Did Cholly just have a brain freeze when he decided to bring in a lefty to face Chad Tracy, allowing Davey to bring up Hairston instead?"Bob and FP certainly did when talking about who we had available on the bench at the time. They listed Bernie, Lombo, and Tracy, and I was like, "No love for the new guy, eh?"

  30. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:44 PM

    Yesterday I said we needed 5 runs, but reality our record when we score 3 or more is incredible. When we score 3 or more runs our record is 42-10 over 81%.

  31. hiramhover - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Even when Espi is in good form, he's better (higher BA, more power) batting righty than lefty, so they're unlikely to see him as a LH bench bat to replace Tracy.And as others have pointed out, he's better off getting the regular playing time in the minors, anyway.

  32. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    The real problem we have had 39 games where we scored 2 or less.

  33. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Ghost, I'm assuming Espi has done some serious soul searching riding the buses around up state NY. I think he would be very motivated to just prove he can hit at the big league level again and if he does he will get a full time job somewhere next year. I am not a psychologist so I may be all wet but I am just looking to have the best 25 on the team.

  34. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    JD, by late last year, I guess you mean before September and the playoffs. :-) Well yes, if Espi can return to his 2011 form, he'd be a huge improvement over our current bench, even over Hairston. I'm sure not going to argue against that. I guess where we differ at base is what he needs to do to show that he is indeed that player. Again, I don't know if you were kidding or not, but a week or two of decent play definitely isn't going to do it for me. Some people here started talking as if he was fixed when he went on a 3 game hitting streak. In Syracuse. Come on! I don't know what Rizzo's threshold will be but with Rendon playing as well as he is, I assume he'll be in no hurry to bring Espi back just to replace Lombo or Tracy on the bench. And then there is the clubhouse chemistry issue, which I don't feel at all capable of assessing. Honestly, I'd want to see a solid month of consistent hitting, with lots of XBHs and power, before I would call him ready. And I don't think it would be unreasonable to let him play in AAA for the rest of July and August dand bring him back for September.

  35. baseballswami - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    I think we are lucky to have two catchers who have value. I feel that Zuke is better at knowing the pitcher's minds and being their shrink. I feel that Ramos is better at reading the opposing hitters, and provides more offense. Zuke seems to hit better when he is used less. Win- win.

  36. bowdenball - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said…"The real problem we have had 39 games where we scored 2 or less."You act like (1) this is an ongoing problem, and (2) 39 is a lot more than anyone else has had.The offense is better than it was in May and June. We've only had two such games since Ramos returned, and we scored two runs in both. By the way the Pirates have had 34 such games, and the other NL contenders have had between 27 and 30. So it WAS a problem, yes. Production from LF, 2B and C were also problems. Those probably aren't problems any more, so I'm not sure if games where we score 2 runs or less will still be a problem.

  37. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    I exactly thought of Storen when I read that article about relievers. Some people have the opinion that his inconsistency is "mental" but what if it is a warning of reliever flame out?

  38. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Interesting Fangraphs piece on the 50 most valuable trade commodities. Dave Cameron's new list will come out next week, so in this piece he looks back at his list from last year. Bryce was at #2, Stras at #8 and Gio at #21. No other Nats on the list.

  39. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Tampa has made their move in the AL East and are in 2nd place. How quickly things change and doubt they are trading David Price until they are out of it or into the off-season.

  40. MicheleS - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    NatsJackHAPPY BIRTHDAY

  41. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Derek Jeter injured his quad in his first game back. I don't have any problem with being careful with Ramos. A day off is better than a month off.

  42. Tcostant - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    I think your on to something Natslady…

  43. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:04 PM

    It's not just about what's best for Espi it's also about what's best for the Washington Nationals.On that we definitely agree!

  44. baseballswami - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    I think at this point we probably need Lombo's varied skill set on the bench. He can literally play anywhere, and at one point was the emergency catcher. I just do not think Espi can handle the bench or hitting a few times a week, and one of those is probably a bunt.Especially if he has just retooled his swing. I think we see him in September, barring injuries.

  45. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Ghost, interesting point about TB. Carp and FP were talking last night like the Phillies are definitely sellers. The guys on MLB Tonight were all arguing that they are too close to getting into the race to blow the team up at this point. The second WC has definitely increased the number of teams who don't want to give up before the trading deadline.

  46. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Ruben Amaro Jr. has floated the idea of the Phillies not only not being sellers, but being BUYERS. That would be one of the more stupid things he has ever done. The Phillies are not built to contend.

  47. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    This Reds/Braves series is good for us because the Reds are the only team ahead of us in the WC race and the Braves obviously in the NL East. No matter what, we should gain ground (assuming we don't lose every game)

  48. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Stephania Bell ‏@Stephania_ESPN 3mSaid it before but bears repeating. There's no way to simulate real games in rehab. Always ramps up a bit more, muscle strains common.

  49. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Thanks Michele!

  50. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Freddie Freeman won the final vote.

  51. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Sec222, Amaro has had this delusion for a few years now. Most pundits recognized the fact that his best players are either past their prime, prone to repeated stints on the DL or both. That team as its constituted will always hover around .500. If he is smart he starts converting players with serious value into future assets (Lee,Utley,Ruiz). Or he can just let their value continue to plummet ALA Halladay, Howard and Rollins. Works for me.

  52. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP 6mDavey on no ejections this season for arguing calls: "I'm in a slump." … "Maybe the first inning Sunday."

  53. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Dan Brooks ‏@brooksbaseball 6mI just want to point out that Puig has swung and missed more times than Marco Scutaro has over the last 2 years. Combined.

  54. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    Section 222 said… It's not just about what's best for Espi it's also about what's best for the Washington Nationals.——————–On that we definitely agree! July 11, 2013 5:04 PM That's the post of the day along with the birthday messages to NatsJack!

  55. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Tulo is still on the DL right? Won't that mean that Desi may get a spot anyway? It's a shame he is out as of now but Freeman is a deserving all star and the short stops selected are all having very good years too. So really not much cause to complain.

  56. hiramhover - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Re: AmaroWhy are folks assuming he really means what he says? We don't do that with Rizzo.Better to ask not whether it's truthful, but why Amaro might think it's useful. To pump up his fans and players, maybe; to signal to other GMs that he won't be holding a fire sale, so they better make him good offers, etc.

  57. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Yeah but Tulo is on rehab assignment I think.

  58. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Happy birthday NatsJack.

  59. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    David Proctor said… Freddie Freeman won the final vote. Is that right! Soup-prize Soup-prize!

  60. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    hiramhover said… Re: AmaroWhy are folks assuming he really means what he says? We don't do that with Rizzo.Better to ask not whether it's truthful, but why Amaro might think it's useful. To pump up his fans and players, maybe; to signal to other GMs that he won't be holding a fire sale, so they better make him good offers, etc. And that's the correct analysis. You don't piss off your fanbase. You also don't let other GMs know you are in sell mode as you quietly listen to offers.Cliff Lee has 2 years of $25 million contracts left. The Red Sox will do that deal.

  61. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Cliff Lee also has an expensive option for 2016.

  62. baseballswami - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    I think it would be totally irresponsible for Tulo to go to the ASG, and not just because I think Desi should go. He is not even back to his major league club yet. His team needs him healthy and his team should come first. I don't ever remember a player going who was at this state of rehab this close to the break.Bochy will be scared to death to play him and so he is a wasted spot. There is no way he can be full strength to the point where he can help the NL win.

  63. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Re: Cliff Lee–wouldn't Texas also do that deal, especially now with Yu Darvish on the DL (though they are saying it's not serious). But the longer they wait, the fewer starts Lee makes for another team.

  64. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    If we winn 3 of next 4 we will gain 3 gaims combined on the 2.

  65. Section 222 - Jul 11, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    I totally agree that the Phillies should sell. While they have a very outside chance of making the playoffs, if they stick with their aging stars they'll have no chance next year or the year after. Even Michael Young has some value right now because he's having a good year. Plus, I just love the idea of the Phillies selling. Hahaha.Thanks for the POTD nomination Ghost, but "Buckets of Bold" still wins my vote.

  66. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    FWIW:JIM BOWDEN Almost final all star snubs: Donaldson, Longoria,Balfour, Bruce, Puig, Desmond, Strasburg

  67. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Hiramrover, I am judging Amaro's actions as much as his words. By keeping his core in place and by bringing Michael Young in he acted as if he had a contending team. He doesn't. When you have an aging team it's always best to start rebuilding a year too early rather than a year too late.

  68. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Ghost, It's interesting that the Red Sox dumped salary last year in that deal with the Dodgers and now they are primed to add salary. I think they even surprised themselves with how well they have performed this year.

  69. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Tulo is on rehab, but. Who knows.

  70. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    My impression is that Michael Young is a terrible fielder (confirmed by fangraphs). There must be some place for a bat-only player…

  71. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    I saw Seattle score 7 runs and I thought maybe Morse was back, but not yet. That ship may have sailed now that Rizzo got Hairston.Morsehttp://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130709&content_id=53232550&notebook_id=53234746&c_id=sea

  72. JD - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    NL,In the American league.

  73. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    I would be shocked if the Red Sox don't get Cliff Lee but as NatsLady said, the Rangers will be on him too. I just don't see them giving up the prospects this time. The Red Sox have plenty of cash.

  74. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 9:56 PM

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  75. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    http://mlb.mlb.com/visualization/all_star/y2013/final_vote/Culbertson Texas likes them some Ian Desmond. How come the former Montreal Expos farmhand didn't get his Canadian friends to back him up?The entire Southeast below Northern Virginia was almost all Freeman. Amazingly Baltimore and most of Maryland was Ian Desmond.

  76. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    ERIC AND DEUCES AND NATSLADY: Please see my response re HTML in the last post. I'm not going to re-post it here, but it's relevant to you three, if not the rest of the group.

  77. natsfan1a - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Happy b'day, NatsJack. I hope you get a win. :-)

  78. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Sec 3, I read it but I have NO CLUE what you are talking about, sorry.

  79. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Sorry, NL. I'll go back and try again.

  80. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    Sec 3. OK. Start with telling me why you are giving me this information?

  81. Knoxville Nat - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Happy Birthday NatsJack……..39th once again?

  82. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    NL, if it matters to you how relevant google thinks your site is on the topic of Nats baseball, or other search terms like that someone might use to find you on google, then SEO (Search Engine Optimization) is a way to help google know that your site is relevant and legit, and it is more likely to give your site higher up the list. For instance, I just googled the term Nationals baseball," and Mark's blog here came up third, which is pretty good. If search engine ranking doesn't matter to you, then nevermind.

  83. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    *correction, I searched for "Nationals baseball blog"

  84. baseballswami - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Game time!!!!!

  85. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Sec3, I put in for laughs Nats Outsider and this blog still came up near the top at #3

  86. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Braves tore Kendricks up last weekend, so lets hope the Nats do the same.

  87. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Thank you Utley

  88. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Makes up for it.

  89. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Good one, Ghost, that's funny! I got it fifth just now. Which is still pretty good.The NatsOutsider twitter page, and the CapsOutsider, among other things, came up higher for me.

  90. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    From Amanda: "Desmond was not named to the team this year, with Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki earning the starting spot via fan vote, Brewers rookie Jean Segura named as a reserve and Padres Everth Cabrera earning San Diego’s only selection when the teams were announced last weekend."Segura seems to be called a "rookie" but as I think we determined technically he isn't a rookie as he surpassed the limit for ABs last year.

  91. JaneB - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Happy Birrthday, NatsJack! May you get a nice fat, easy-peasy Curlie W for a gift!Natslady, scary article. I immediately thought of the Chief and Storen. I guess only Mo is a bionic closer, and even he is in his last year (of many decades, but still…)I hope the coaches pick Desi. What a class guy and great player he is. And he's OURS!

  92. Rabbit34 - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    We need somebody hitting 4th who can hit the ball. Even if it's for an out. Give the darn thing a chance. Strike-out mania, here we come.

  93. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Geeez, HORRIBLE send. Brown had the ball when Harper was still two steps from third.

  94. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Yikes he was out by a mile

  95. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Ung…. Why did Jewitt send Bryce…. Ugh…

  96. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    I'm wrong. He was safe. Look at replay.

  97. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Secondary lead must have been poor as no way Harper should be thrown out on a not real hatd hit to left.

  98. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP 31s1. Good send from Jewett with two outs, regardless of outcome. 2. Harper looked safe on the replay, by press box consensus.

  99. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Opportunity blown there.

  100. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Was that a bad jump? How did he not score?

  101. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    He was safe by a good bit too.

  102. jeffwx - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    harper safe ump had a perfect view

  103. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Harper was safe. Part of the problem that slowed Bryce down was trying to keep his helmet on. Those split seconds cause problems. Replay would have made that call right.

  104. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    OK, I take it back. That was a decent send, considering Harper touched home before he was tagged. Bad call at the plate.

  105. Amr Khani - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Absolutely awful call. It was actually not hard to see in at full speed.

  106. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    David Proctor said… Yikes he was out by a mile July 11, 2013 7:21 PM Only in the ump's mind.

  107. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Bryce does not look so good since injury, nor month prior. #concerned

  108. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    My goodness on review the call was not close. Where isDavey. I am tired of him lettings ump screw us.

  109. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    MNF, Davey going out and arguing isn't going to make the ump change his mind. There is no replay in baseball…although there should be.

  110. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Sec. 3, My Sofa said… OK, I take it back. That was a decent send, considering Harper touched home before he was tagged. Bad call at the plate. July 11, 2013 7:23 PM Two outs and it has to be a good throw. Good send. Like I said when you see the replay Bryce puts his left arm on his head to keep his helmet on and it still flew off. I truly believe that slowed him down.

  111. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    Did Davey go out there to argue the call?

  112. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Worse part of the call ump was in position, if his vision is not good enough when ib good position then he is in wrong profession.

  113. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    I truly believe that slowed him down. I don't doubt it. There's a reason people knock them off; it's not just to look cool.

  114. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Doug McKinney‏@FPDougieFresh6m Oh wow #Nationals get hosed by another HP umpire. Even Philly beat writers call Harper safe haha

  115. Sec. 3, My Sofa - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Davey did not go out.

  116. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Sec3, interesting. Kerwin Danley blows calls all the time.

  117. Amr Khani - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Eventually that play is going to be reviewable, and it needs to be. If you're going to review home runs, you eventually will review all run scoring plays. Frustrating because it actually wasn't really a tough call.

  118. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Davey not backing his players is ticking me off.Get out thete Davey.

  119. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    I love baseball… But I think there has to be some type of review of scoring plays that has to happen in circumstances like that…

  120. Ishmael - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    It was obvious live — the tag was on his chest. No way henwas out.

  121. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Did Harper argue?

  122. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    How come we cant get M. Young out?

  123. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    Through 2 innings last games Kebdricks gave up 3 runs 5 hits.Third inning lets start hitting him too.

  124. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    He snarled and shook his head in disgust.

  125. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… How come we cant get M. Young out? I was thinking the same. They have a spray chart on him and he is hitting them in the Right Center field gap and right where that ball went.If you pitch him outside then the Span and Werth aren't playing him in the right spots.

  126. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    My eye sight us bad enough I could not tell live, but was clear on replay, and the ump should have better eye sight then me.The ball beat him the tag didn'.As I said reporters need to wuiz Davey on his lack of action.

  127. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    He is being pitched outside.He is my type of hitter, goes with the pitch.

  128. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Span, what are you doing?????

  129. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    That's an unacceptable play by Span.

  130. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Uhm….

  131. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    That would be enough for me to bench him tonight.He is not the ump.

  132. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    I am so sick of stupid baserunning from Span I have steam coming out of my ears.

  133. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Didn't Swisher do the same thing the other day? These guys must be really tired.

  134. Amr Khani - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    That's ridiculous. First of all, the bunt is generally a terrible play, but for a professional to do that is embarrassing.

  135. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Span: U suck!!!! Get off my team u lazy lazy man.

  136. ExposedinDC - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Ghost, I believe he was umpiring

  137. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

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  138. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Span wasn't being lazy, he was just not being smart.

  139. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Well that would've probably been a double play if Span reached so it didn't end up mattering. Still an unacceptable play by Span.

  140. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Ghost Of Steve M.July 11, 2013 7:47 PMI am so sick of stupid baserunning from Span I have steam coming out of my ears.We call it "red ass"

  141. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Span- Lazy? Nah… Yeah, that was a bad play but he isn't lazy…

  142. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    No excuse for Swisher's crap either.Physical errors happen.But mental errors early in the game totally unexcusable.Still madder at Davey for his pitiful action in inning 1

  143. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    I don't get why you care so much if Davey goes and argues. The play stands either way.

  144. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    I would bench him for the game.

  145. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Yes bad base running by Span… But Desi swinging on 3-1 right back to the pitcher would have negated him on base anyway… That's a dP ball…

  146. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    David ProctorJuly 11, 2013 7:49 PMWell that would've probably been a double play if Span reached so it didn't end up mattering. Still an unacceptable play by Span.What??!! He was only out by a step after stopping at Starbucks for a latte

  147. ExposedinDC - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    I think my sons little league team bunts better than the nats

  148. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    We already know plate umpire missed 1, but not that one.

  149. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    DJ going out wouldn't have mad a difference MNF…

  150. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    E was umping not playing.

  151. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Rockies activated SS Troy Tulowitzki from the 15-day disabled list.Tulo wound up returning a bit earlier than expected, missing just under a month of action after being assigned a 4-6 week timetable when he fractured a rib. He's at shortstop and batting cleanup Thursday against the Dodgers.

  152. Scott Margenau - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Oh…I got ya DP. My bad. But can't look at it like that. Desi could have jacked a double decker in hindsight

  153. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:53 PM

    Results the same.Besides not scouting young they haven'f scouted Revere either.

  154. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Not lazy, simpky not running until he knew if fair or foul. Terrible bsseball playing.

  155. Nats 128 - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Revere does what Span hasnt done most of this series. Go oppo with a nice level swing.

  156. ExposedinDC - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Guess that means he is going to the ASG wouldn't you think NL ?

  157. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    To plant the seed that we are one. It wont change the call but you never know.

  158. Nats 128 - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    This just cant happen. Davey doesnt have the cajones to pull Span right now. With the pickoffs and doubled off the bases this is just another brain freeze by Span. When he throws his glove down on the ground he will then complete the brain freeze turn back the clock. I thought after Nyjer left we wouldnt have to witness this stupidity again.

  159. David Proctor - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Span hasn't been picked off in months. He'll never throw his glove down, he's not Nyjer Morgan. That was an unacceptable play, but let's not get crazy.

  160. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    And…. Here we go…

  161. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Read why above.

  162. NatsLady - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Esxposed, yes. And from his interview, it doesn't sound like he minds that much. Go see his family, rest.

  163. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    Span pulls way too many.

  164. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Depends on how he feels after the next few games

  165. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 11, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Dan Kolko‏@masnKolko11m Complete brain fart by Denard Span. Bunts one off the plate and decides not to run. The result is an easy 2-6-3 double play.

  166. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    He has not Nyjered in the field at all. Just on offensr.

  167. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Span isn't Nyjer period… That's an insult really… And I liked Nyjer a lot…

  168. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    Is that acceptable for a Beat Writer like Kolko to write "brain fart"?

  169. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    MrsB, who is it an insult to? ;)

  170. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    It's an insult to Span of course… And I was a huge Nyjer fan… I used to defend him like there was no tomorrow…Everyone has brain farts… And yeah I think it's acceptable for a beat writer to say brainfart… Gotta call an ace and ace. Or a spade a spade…

  171. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    They didnt scout Werth

  172. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Espi with a HR

  173. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Love a good battle between a pitcher and a batter… Love it even more when our batter wins that battle…

  174. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Werth is locked in….

  175. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    I HATE WHEN LAROCHE SWINGS 3-0

  176. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Now cash it in.

  177. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    Hahahaha…. Ghost, tell us how you really feel! *wink*

  178. ExposedinDC - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Tony Plush……..Denny Flush

  179. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM

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  180. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Well…. At least we are battling and are getting Kendrick's count up…Need to score some runs next inning…

  181. David Proctor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Wasted opportunity

  182. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Nats not cashing in on the opportunities.

  183. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    Argggg wasted opportunities again.Keep pitching Zim.Kendricks 66 pitchesAlso an error by CVotto satarted Braves Rally in 2nd.

  184. JaneB - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    I'm still mad about the ump calling out Bryce when he wasn't out. And at Davey for not getting mad about it. You argue it to let the guy know he better not make another mistake again. I guess I'm cranky tonight.

  185. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    LaRoche is hitting in a small sample size .333 in 3-0 and .455 in 3-1 in a larger sample size.

  186. David Proctor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    It's possible Davey let the umpire know his mind from the dugout. I know in the Taylor Jordan start, the Nats were yelling at the ump from the dugout about the strike zone.

  187. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    Votto ties it

  188. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    Nats get another break, take advantage it! PLEASE!

  189. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Oh no, there you go Nats. The Phillies are trying to hand you the game.

  190. David Proctor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Second time the Phillies have thrown out the lead runner on a sacrifice.

  191. NatsLady - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Told you Michael Young was a terrible defender. Youza, another error. Not the best bunt, JZ.

  192. TexNat - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    ESPN shows that Utley made two throwing errors on the same play earlier this game. Is this actually true? If so how in the world did he manage that?

  193. David Proctor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Well that was a disastrous inning.

  194. Knoxville Nat - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    That bunt seemed to have died in the dirt at home plate. Should the scorekeeper give an assist to the grounds crew for that?

  195. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Another doubleplay for Span. Sheesh. Steam just coming from my ears.

  196. David Proctor - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    I believe they gave Utley both a fielding error and a throwing error, TexNat.

  197. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Sigh…. We need to take advantage of these opportunties….

  198. ExposedinDC - Jul 12, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Holy crap the Nats don't play small ball very well

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