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Game 99: Pirates at Nats

Jul 22, 2013, 9:30 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

With Rick Eckstein out as hitting coach, the Nationals will move forward under the tutelage of Rick Schu, though the former minor-league coordinator won't arrive in Washington until tomorrow. Whether the move makes any sort of difference at all will be hard to judge tonight, but perhaps the players respond from the wakeup call. They host the Pirates in the first of a four-game series, with right-hander Charlie Morton (1-2, 3.19 ERA) on the mound for Pittsburgh.

Morton is making just his seventh start this season, his sixth year in the major leagues. He has faced the Nats three times in his career, going 0-2 with a 4.11 ERA across 15 1/3 innings pitched. However the Nats respond to the hitting coach change, they will likely need a good deal of runs anyway. Dan Haren (4-10, 5.61) is making the start as he continues to try and turn his season around.

To be fair, Haren is coming off two consecutive solid outings. He allowed two earned runs in five innings at Philly on July 8 and pitched six scoreless frames in Miami on July 13, but both games were losses for the Nats as the offense scored a combined three runs in the two games. The Pirates have scored the least runs of any team in the month of July (47), so perhaps tonight presents an opportunity for Haren.

Updates to come…

PITTSBURGH PIRATES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 186
Weather: Mostly cloudy, 89 degrees, Wind 5 mph RF to LF

NATIONALS (48-50)
LF Bryce Harper
2B Anthony Rendon
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche

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220 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. mick - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    arghhhh…the Pirateslol

  2. mick - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    allright Davey…walk the plank….

  3. JT - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    Ryan Braun suspended for rest of season. Just announced.

  4. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Ryan Braun suspended for rest of season (seemingly authoritative reports all over Twitter). Mr. Braun opted not to appeal. Telling. More to come, almost certainly.

  5. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    And JT.. Braun is not fighting the suspension

  6. mick - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    so after Braun, whose next

  7. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    And onto something happier.. The game!GO Haren! GO BATS! GYFNG!!!!

  8. djinFl. - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:49 PM

    Ryan Zimmerman said that, if the Nats do get it going, it will be up to the players and not Schu.Why would Schu want this job.

  9. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    When you think about it, it's a fairly logical move by Mr. Braun. The Brewers are completely out of it, so accept the penalty for the remainder of a meaningless year rather than challenge, lose the appeal in a month or so, and then have to serve the suspension (at least part of it) extending into next season.

  10. phil dunton - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Rick Schu has some awful career hitting stats! At least he did play professional baseball, as opposed to Eckstein.

  11. Sec. 1 D, 10 T, My Sofa - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    "Why would Schu want this job?"You never carry your own bags in the Show.

  12. Rabbit34 - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM

    I don't need anyone to turn into .300 hitters, I just want them to barrel the ball! A hit ball at least has a chance of doing something good. Maybe Schu can lower our strikeouts and get guys to make more solid contact. That's what a coach can do. A good one anyway.

  13. Kirbs - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I like Bryce as a lead-off…trying to stay positive. Pirates are scary though….I almost said "Let's take one"….ah, I said it.And here is to good Haren (fingers crossed).

  14. Kirbs - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    Rabbit the problem is, I swear everytime I see a strikeout, it is looking. I just don't get it…especially Zim with that swing back fastball…every time looking.

  15. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM

    Garza to the Rangers?

  16. Traveler8 - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    Who is playing 3 rd base for the Pirates?

  17. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    Ex Nats news:@FollowThePadres: #Padres Jason Marquis has significant ligament damage to his right UCL, said manager Bud Black…. Geesh Marquis can't catch a break

  18. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Alvarez is playing 3rd. Mistake in Mark's line up.

  19. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    So an AZ DBacks player had a comment on Braun:Mark Teahen‏@ESPY_TEAHENAs a player there's temptation to cheat to keep up, chase fame, success &/or riches, but like all temptation in life there is right & wrong.

  20. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    I guess I was wrong on Rick Eckstein. I thought there was no way Davey would allow his removal but like I said over the weekend the Nats were out-coached in every facet of the game and that didn't escape Rizzo. Baseball is about results and it will be a wait and see on how and if Schu can positively impact the Nats.

  21. Traveler8 - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Natsjack, thanks – now the scorecard is already to go.

  22. hiramhover - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:30 PM

    Couple of posts on the last thread about how often the Nats do–or don't–swing at pitches.They went from the team with the highest swing rate last year (48.4%) to #22 this year (45.6%).Tom Veruducci mentions the Nats approach in a piece last month:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130604/dustin-ackley-eric-wedge-sabermetrics/Funny thing is (in a sad/ironic/infuriating kind of way), Verducci was arguing that the patient approach has gone too far in MLB as a whole, and cites Davey's Nats as a team with a more aggressive approach.

  23. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    And a funny on Braun (and the sad state of the Marlins)clarkspencer‏@clarkspencerLogan Morrison: "You know we're clean. We haven't scored a run in 37 innings." #marlins #braun

  24. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:38 PM

    MicheleS: The same might be said about the Nats (knocking on wood).

  25. David Proctor - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    If any of our hitters are juicing, they're doing it wrong.

  26. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:40 PM

    Eugene.. whistling past the grave yard with that comment

  27. Joseph Rizzo - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    Mark just tweeted this photo from Nats Park, and before clicking, I suggest you make sure you don't have a full stomach:pic.twitter.com/TUgAe6gHf9

  28. djinFl. - Jul 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Braun did his best to ruin the reputation of a man trying to earn some extra cash with a second job. He should be banned for those actions alone. The next guilty party might just step up and admit it.

  29. Faraz Shaikh - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    my first pick in fantasy draft this year was Braun. Thanks for that Ryan. My team needed that kick in the gut when close to out.

  30. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    and something to hope for:Greg Schimmel‏@Greg_Schimmel Three years ago today, the Phillies — seven games behind Atlanta — fired their hitting coach. Won the NL East by six games.

  31. Don - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Man, do I hate this Harper as leadoff man idea.

  32. A DC Wonk - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    like I said over the weekend the Nats were out-coached in every facet of the gameOut-coached?! No — we were out-scored.Davey's been telling them: be aggressive, swing more.Verducci shows we went to first to the bottom third in swinging at pitches.We keep taking called strikes, and a whole lotta called strike threes.We weren't out-coached. We have a bunch of guys who are way too selective and let too many pitches go by. Werth knows how to do that correctly. Most of the other guys don't.Kirbs said… Rabbit the problem is, I swear everytime I see a strikeout, it is looking.We see the stats. That's not a problem of getting out-coached.

  33. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    You can't walk the hitter in front of McCutchen.

  34. A DC Wonk - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    On WTOP they played a clip of Braun saying in 2012 "I'd* bet my life that no foreign substance entered my body"(Couldn't tell whether it was: "I", "I'd", or "I'll")

  35. David Proctor - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Typical Dan Haren. I'm so through with him.

  36. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    And there you go.

  37. MicheleS - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    OH Good lord Haren!!!

  38. Faraz Shaikh - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    From gameday, mercer did seem to have a good at bat.

  39. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Dan Haren turn Amish over the All Star break?

  40. joemktg - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    I leave for a minute for a refill, and there's two. My fault.

  41. BigCat - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Didn't you just know when "Boom Boom" walked that guy that McCutchon was gonna go deep? He is 4-10 with a 5.61 era. It's just pitiful that he is still out there chucking gopher balls

  42. Nats106 - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Nats106 said… sjm, you're dreaming, but it could happen. It's why we love baseball. That's the dreamer side. Reality: Pitssburgh is almost as inept offensively as we are. If Haren pitches around Mccutcheon and keep Marte off the bases it could be the start of something good. July 22, 2013 2:22 PM Sometimes I hate being right. Why pitch to a guy who owns you?

  43. djinFl. - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Firing Eck did not help Haren

  44. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Fired the wrong guy.

  45. David Proctor - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    The league had adjusted to Anthony Rendon. Which was always going to happen. Up to him to readjust now. I know he will.

  46. Joe Seamhead - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    I really don't lie this lineup. I hope they prove me wrong and kick some blarney a**!

  47. BigCat - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    Bring back eck!

  48. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Morton is painting the corners low. Nats won't hit him at all unless he starts missing up.

  49. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Nick Johnson just tweeted " Nats kicked a real good one to the curb today".One class act commenting on another class act.

  50. joemktg - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    You've got to be kidding. What the hell is Haren thinking???

  51. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    McCutchen again. This is starting to be funny.

  52. djinFl. - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    You got that right NJ

  53. nats guy - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Nats have to pray that they don't get swept.

  54. pedrocerrano - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    LAUGH OUT LOUD

  55. phil dunton - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    Pow!

  56. pedrocerrano - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    it's a good thing Haren was so concerned with holding Marte at first base. God forbid…

  57. BigCat - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Do you think someone might knock him down? I have never see one guy wear out a pitching staff this bad. Yes jack. It's almost comical

  58. djinFl. - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    I meant the class act statement NJ. So know we know Eck wasn't the one calling for pitching to players that hammer us.

  59. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:49 PM

    Nats need to trade Haren to a team they play so they can get a chance to bat against him.

  60. Nats106 - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Mick, you were right earlier today. There is no approach to hitting, no approach to pitching.This is crazy. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results Oh well. I think spiderman 3 is on.

  61. nats guy - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    I t dawned on me last night that the problems they have with holding runners,bunting, and shaky defense all come from Nats organization players. The onus for that is on Player Development. They aren'being taught very well. Has nothing to do with talent. Bad coaching at lower levels. Eckstein firing is cosmetic. These guys are so dead they don't even notice.

  62. BigCat - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Span loafed

  63. Nats106 - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    amen natsguy

  64. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    I'm thinking Morton can no hit this lethargic bunch tonite.

  65. Nats106 - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    On the plus side I picked up Morton in my fantasy baseball league

  66. mick - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    hey, I said it would be justice if for Eck if Nats were no hit, lol

  67. phil dunton - Jul 22, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Nats Jack, Haren would no hit the Nats.

  68. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    NJack. Jake used to teach that sliding stop

  69. VP81955 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Depressing. The 2014 season can't come soon enough.

  70. hiramhover - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Wow. Who gets fired tomorrow?

  71. Joe Seamhead - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    OK, boys,, 5-0, 7 games back.I think we've spotted them enough..

  72. NatsLady - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    So, I'm sorry? Someone said we could "make do" with Haren/Jordan/Ohlendorf et al, and still have a chance? What is the point of firing Eck?

  73. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    nats106…starting to wonder if the players have packed it in mentally? subconsciencely they want a new manager?

  74. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    BigCat…..Yep. I used it rounding first back in the day but never third.

  75. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    sell sell selllol

  76. TimDz - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Bob: No way the pierogies are going to win in OUR ballpark….Me: Wish we could say the same thing about the Pirates…

  77. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    well, lets talk about Kate's baby..ha ha ha

  78. phil dunton - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Bryce has caught the Danny Espinosa disease.

  79. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    symbolic nats are playing the pirates as the franchise is walking the plankarghhhhhhh

  80. NatsLady - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Eric Stephen ‏@truebluela 2mLast time the Dodgers knocked out 2 straight starting pitchers with 2 IP or less was Omar Olivares & Juan Acevedo (Rockies) May 5-6, 1995

  81. Almazar80 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    What a great team Rizzo put together.

  82. hiramhover - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    NLDon't know if you were thinking of a comment I made earlier, but I said there was no point in doing a trade before the deadline *if* they decided they were realistically out of contention.

  83. nats guy - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Just a conjecture, I think if they get swept DJ will retire early. I just have a feeling. Not that I want him to, because at this point it really doesn't matter. But his interview before the game sounded very depressing.

  84. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:14 AM

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  85. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Mick, 24 hours ago, I'd have said no way. However when your manager says that he'd rather be fired than have the hitting coach be fired then I'd be letting down.I think it's human nature to let down when the boss doesn't care anymore unless you're totally self motivated. Maybe it's an adjustment period for the players and they will pull out of it. I can't imagine they would just flat out give up, but it sure looks like it. Glad I didn't go tonight. I'd be surrounded by a bunch of Steve the Pirates and if I wanted that I'd watch dodgeball again.

  86. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    this is painfull

  87. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    nats106…there you go!very funny movie, arghhhhhhhh

  88. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    dodge, duck, dive and….dodge

  89. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    This goes to the Rizzo contract. The Lerners hold the option for the next 2 years and already said they are invoking the 2014 option. Rizzo thought he was getting a raise.

  90. NatsLady - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    hh, no, I don't think it was you, I think it was last week. But generally, several times when I've suggested we are very thin at SP, I've been pooh-poohed.

  91. Nats 128 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    "NatsFanSinceStart said… Time to switch channels now; there's a real game over on Masn 2"Then you have comments like this to throw in the face of all the loyal Nats fans. You create a "name" like you were a Nats fan in 2005 but you never say a nice word and only show up when things arent going well.

  92. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    .does that mean Rizzo could be done as well??

  93. nats guy - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    Actually Rizzo was reportedly upset about the option pickup without a raise.

  94. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    would be cool to see a no hitter

  95. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    reminds me of when Fred Flintstone asked Mr Slate for a raise and he got one

  96. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    Mick, if you can dodge a homer, you can dodge a ball.

  97. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    You used to see Rizzo sitting in the box with Mark Lerner at home games but not this year.

  98. hiramhover - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Did Carp really say "You've got a fighting chance at five nothing" a minute ago?What team does he cover?

  99. Nats 128 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    No hitter gone and the shutout

  100. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Really, you don't expect even the most ardent fan to keep watching this, do you? At least not without copious (sp) amounts of alcohol.

  101. NatsLady - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    If it's any consolation, Dillon Gee is no-hitting the Barves through 4.

  102. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM

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  103. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    FP is the black knight from monte pyhtononly a flesh wound

  104. Nats 128 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    FPs comments about the firing of Eckstein being the right move is the opposite of what he was saying up until today.Im not disagreeing however was today the day to make the change any different than 2 weeks ago or a month ago.

  105. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    What are you going to do? Bleed on me?Sorry Mick. I think this is my last post at least for the night. I am contributing too much to a carnival atmosphere and I think we should take this more seriously.That honey bourbon tasting has got the best of me.

  106. nats guy - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    I don't know about that but there are bad vibes. Things need to be looked at. The only player I have really gotten pi**ed at is Espinosa. I thought he lied and cost the Nats an awful lot of games early when they were playing better. I personally hope he never comes back. The other stuff is just the way it goes. People get hurt, have bad games, and bad seasons. I do wish they hadn't signed Haren. However, he is at least a stand up guy.

  107. Nats 128 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    If Stammen is brought in its the right spot to do it with the team behind.

  108. SCNatsFan - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    I keep hoping, I really do.

  109. Nats 128 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    If Bernadina hits a HR here Carp will look like a genius.

  110. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    How is that consolation when the Mets are about to tie the Nats in the loss column?

  111. hiramhover - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    128Carp looking like a genius? Now we are talking the truly impossible.

  112. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Frustrating

  113. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Thanks Shark. Swung at Ball 4 twice, robbing Bryce a chance with the bases loaded.

  114. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Nats128: Quit lying. FP never came out and said firing Eck was 'the right move." He only complimented Schu as being a good coach.You really should be more careful – lying is not a positive character trait.

  115. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    FP did say he thought Rizzo made the right move. Perhaps you didn't hear him, NatsFanSinceStart.I disagree with FP though.

  116. SCNatsFan - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Freaking roger swings at ball 4

  117. hiramhover - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Did clint hurdle go to a lobster bake and get mistaken for a lobster?

  118. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Any baseball fan should be a baseball fan first and a team fan second. I try to see a game whenever I visit another MLB city or venue. It is stupid and obnoxious to deride people for watching the only other free game on television.

  119. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Nats128: Duh of course its the right time to bring in Stammen. and not because the team is down. He is the main 'long reliever' along with Ohlendorfer. And Ohlie was just used up over the weekend.Maybe you didn't know Stammen role, being a new fan and all.

  120. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    I guess I did, DP. I'm watching, but didn't catch that.

  121. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    I am afraid that we are going to find out that Rizzo's 3 big acquisitions and one big subtraction completely ruined the clubhouse vibe on this team. Soriano's stats look decent but obscure the fact that he has blown several games. Haren has been pathetic and Span has been awful on offense and appears to simply be going through the motions.

  122. Knoxville Nat - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    This goes to the Rizzo contract. The Lerners hold the option for the next 2 years and already said they are invoking the 2014 option. Rizzo thought he was getting a raise.NatsJack,I seem to recall you telling me before that the Lerners play real hard ball on contracts. Could this be a case of what goes around comes around?

  123. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    This forum will be next to empty come Aug. 30th. I wont be surprised to see 80 comments max a game after that date. We're going to lose all the Newbies — who talk a good game, but are really fair weather fans, not tuning in until last year. They'll be gone soon — thank god

  124. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Damn! Nice Play Rendon!! Obviously I judged his fielding prowess a little tough yesterday. I honestly didn't believe he was capable of making a play like that. Good job, kid!!

  125. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    I seem to recall the Lerners refused to pay on the stadium lease based upon what some said were penny ante violations by the City, and then there was that tiff over the Metro. They seem to have been perfectly willing to pay market rate or above market for Werth, Zimmerman, Harper and Strasburg….

  126. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    But we "negative" types will stay at least until Labor Day….

  127. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Stammen used to a starter. Who wouldn't rather see Stammen starting in place of Haren. Stick Haren as the mop up 'long man." a waste of Stammen if you ask me. Maybe Stammen has been in the bullpen too long and cant go 6 innings, but I'd sure try to get him to.

  128. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    NatsFanSinceStartagreed

  129. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    About the Metro thing, it wasn't the Lerners who didn't want to pay. MLB didn't want them to pay because they were afraid that it would set, in their eyes, a bad precedent for other cities.

  130. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Right William. We, the card carrying members of the 'Legion of Doom' will still be here — probably right up to the last day and into the winter trading season.

  131. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    William O I don't know

  132. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Whatever happened to Christian Garcia? Did he get hurt again? and I sure wish they could make Kroll a starter — if he could pick up an extra pitch though

  133. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Carp announces the "nationals have the top of the order ready in the sixth." Striking fear in the hearts of no one.

  134. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    I am on the road and only looking at the ESPN Gamecast but it seems like not much to see, and even if the Braves loss, the Mets tie us in the loss column. We could be looking at a 5th place finish and that is not LOD. That is just the standings.

  135. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Rendon makes that great play, and then a routine three hopper comes to him and almost eats him up. I don't know about him defensively.

  136. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Dan Kolko ‏@masnKolko 8mRandom Danny Espinosa update: After a scorching-hot stretch at Triple-A, Espinosa is now 2-for-his-last-22 with an RBI, 2 BBs and 8 Ks.

  137. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Wow the room is now empty.Washington has some pretty attention deficit fans — the Nats will be replaced by the newest fad, whatever that may be. Maybe they'll all go renew their D.C. United season tickets

  138. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Need baserunners here.

  139. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Rizzo sure is touchy about Espi, isn't he?

  140. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    There you go. Move him over. Don't need a five run HR here.

  141. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    For cripes sake.

  142. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Harper at lead off … Span in the 7-hole.All the machinations it took to get Span here; all the ramifications that trade had for them — all the failures of expectations concerning Span, the 'key to the World Series", the "answer to all our problems." And he's batting 7th … I guess management is now acknowledging that yes, indeed, it was a bad move.

  143. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Ground ball double play — strikeoutyes, it can get worse.wait until get back to teams that can hit.

  144. mick - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    gangi'm outta here tonight…to painfull

  145. Knoxville Nat - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    Zim swings at another pitch low and away out of the SZADY. No he doesn't need a pep talk but perhaps a kick in the rear end would do the trick.

  146. Knoxville Nat - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Out of the SZ……hate this auto correct thing.

  147. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    I'll be four rows behind the Pirates dugout tomorrow night. Any nice folks who want to say hi, that's great. Any computer/forum bullies who want a piece of me, now is your chance!!! haha

  148. Another_Sam - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    i had plenty of time to ride the bike tonight — didn't have to be home by 7:05.

  149. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    I do wish Carp and FP would stop talking so much about how frustrating it all is. It is what it is. I wish they would just call the game and enjoy the game for its own sake. Its baseball! Enjoy the game and quit talking to us as it you need to convince us to stay tuned.

  150. A DC Wonk - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    NatsFanSinceStart said… (re: newbies)They'll be gone soon — thank god Who the heck are you to decide that new fans are a bad thing?! Weren't you ever a new fan?NatsFanSinceStart said… Wow the room is now empty.Gee, I wonder why. After getting a welcome mat like you put out for them . . .

  151. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    The Orioles have what we need, but no longer have: young stars to bring up. Our young stars are already up and our pipeline of players is getting thin. The O's, already a powerhouse team, just brought up Urrutia, the Cuban defector, who his .367 at AA and AAA. He's 2-2 already tonight. Lets bring up Corey Brown — maybe? anybody else down there?

  152. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Breaking News: Nats catcher throws out runner trying to steal!

  153. VP81955 - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    The Nats actually threw out a stolen-base attempt!

  154. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Haha Oh, Its my job now too put out Welcome mats? You are too funny — thin skinned too.

  155. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    Hey we threw someone out

  156. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Wonk, hard to make sense of a troll. Clearly one of Angelos people trying to be slick. You can see right through it in the 9:06 post.

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  159. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Got roped in to coming to Nats Park with the man-friend… I swore off all D Haren starts….

  160. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    NFSS – were you that guy Less Platu at 1 point…

  161. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM

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  162. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    There you go!

  163. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    As much as anyone can, Werth is carrying this team

  164. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    B – Lesplatu? what does that mean? Been here, maybe — I don't know — 3-4 years — off and on. I don't live here like so many of you all. In april I was basically run out for predicting a 500 season. Returned off and on — since then. I suppose you can somehow look up my comments –Who did you used to be?

  165. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    NatsFanSinceStart said… Ghost: (yawn) You and Wonk are complete idiots. How old are you? I'm in my mid-50's and it's clear you're an Os fan. You promised us you were turning to MASN2 so why don't you do it.

  166. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Werth is a true Pro — and our best player at this time!!

  167. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Werth has had a damn good stretch of baseball… Too bad he is the only 1…

  168. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Lets watch Span put it in the air –note: what will Carp and FP be talking about mid-sept. Cant wait to listen to it — its got be funny

  169. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    How did we score the two runs? Ive been watching the Orioles game

  170. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Come on Hurdle. Morton is gassed. oh forgot, span is up easy out

  171. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Span has absolutely no pop at all in his bat. Plays with no passion, no intensity etc.

  172. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    Haha that's "The Answer" the "Key to the World Series".250 hitter with OBA close to .299what a weak weak player

  173. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    Big hit. Worst case Harper leads off next inning.

  174. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    He doesn't seem to cover the ground in center that he did early in season

  175. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Didn't the Sabermetric people pick the Nats as the overwhelming frontrunner to win the World Series?And didn't those same genius' predict the Orioles would finish last in the Al East?Sabermetrics: last refuge of a person who never played baseball

  176. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    BigCat – Span had a good battle until the end… Looked like he was trying to do too much there… He swung at 2 balls/fouled off 2 ball, at least that is what it looked like right from my seat…

  177. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    tracy: career .236 pinch hitter.And this we needed to resign for a million a year?haha

  178. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Rizzo firing Eck is a little weird. Why did he feel he needed to make that move at this time? Do you think Rizzo loses sleep thinking about how his perfect 2012 went to $#$% in 2013? Or is he too dull, stupid and cocky to think reflectively?

  179. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Oh my, does Krol have a pornstar stache going?

  180. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Yea mrs B. I'm just down on him. On that sac bunt the other night he slowed up and they got him at second. I swear tonight he slowed up on the grounder to first, then was still out when the guy bobbled it.

  181. slidell2 - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Oh to be a fly on the wall in the Rizzo executive office.OTOH, the Nats are making this one mildly interesting.

  182. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    The base running has been bad BigCat… Harp looked like he slowed up his last at bat too….I can say something about each and every Nat right now, with the exception of Werth….They all got issues…

  183. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Can't give them anymore

  184. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Ghost – you here????

  185. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    Just been a long long disappointing season B

  186. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Frickin storen. Have a clue out there

  187. joemktg - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    dear lord…

  188. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Unh… Gotta catch that Storen….

  189. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    I like drew, but he is one of the poster boys in this god forsaken season. I don't think he has ever recovered from game 5……. For whatever reason

  190. SCNatsFan - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Start the fire sale. Figure out who we need next year and sell the rest. These parts just don't mesh.

  191. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    MrsB loves the Nats said… Ghost – you here???? July 22, 2013 9:34 PM Oh I'm here. Just grinding my teeth after that wild pitch.

  192. SCNatsFan - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    Start the fire sale. Figure out who we need next year and sell the rest. These parts just don't mesh.

  193. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Where's Abad with the lefty on deck?

  194. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Davey should have lefty in now

  195. pedrocerrano - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    This team has no shame whatsoever

  196. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Storen gets out of it with 1 given up. That hurts.

  197. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    Both that pop to Harper and that last one, those guys were dead on them Just got under them

  198. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    Did Drew shake up becuz he was scared of contact????

  199. Knoxville Nat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Ghost,Did you receive a private message from our host recently?

  200. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Not a good day for Ryan.

  201. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    Boy we hit into a lot of DP's. nats lady, you got any stats on where we rank in the league on this? Bet top 5

  202. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Ms B, I said I wasn't going to post anymore tonight, but now you know I'm a liar. I don't think Storen was shirking from contact. He caught the ball in the heel of his glove and really didn't have control of it. Another comment about Storen and recovery from game 5. I still believe Johnson absolutely threw him under the bus when he made the comments a couple of months after the season was over. Maybe Johnson should have said "Well maybe pitching to Molina with 1st open wasn't such a good idea." He didn't. Maybe he's a players coach, but he sure didn't show it on that exchange.Now….back to my bourbon and ginger. Are we winning yet?

  203. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    We're 2nd to last into double plays grounded into. We've only grounded into 62. Boston leads the group with 82. Source: http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/type/expanded-2Note: this isn't exactly a good stat. If you notice, many good teams ground into a lot of double plays because they have a lot of men on base.

  204. Secret wasian man - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Braves come back to beat Mets. 8 games now. Rendon followed by Zimm not working. Those guys are dbl play machines.

  205. Unknown - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    NatsFanSinceStart – You are an embarrassment to this team. Please stop posting.

  206. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    I think the addition of soriano basically told storen all he needed to know…..regardless of how much smoke rizzo n davey blew. The kid had a fast track to the bigs, was everyone's darling and then had the rug pulled out from under him.

  207. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    How big is the run Drew gave up now?

  208. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    Man if that run by Storen doesn't hurt now…

  209. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Yep

  210. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM

    Great at bat by Span….

  211. Secret wasian man - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:14 AM

    WERTh trying to,carry this team all by himself. C'mon guys help him out.

  212. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:15 AM

    B…… Storens play at home is a very touch one. Normally the pitcher is running full speed. He has the runner barreling down on him. So he's gotta catch the ball , find the runner, find the plate and worry about the possibility of getting his head taken off by the runner also

  213. David Proctor - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:17 AM

    Ramos got a couple of pitches to hit and JUST missed them.

  214. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:18 AM

    Thanks 106 and Cat…. I couldn't tell from my seat… I recorded the game so I can watch it but I was thinking what the heck… He looked like he got scared and wanted to avoid contact…But that 1 run or 2 WP really hurt… Difference between extra innings…

  215. Nats106 - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    Man really tough break for Grilli. Career year-hopefully it isn't serious, but that can't be good.

  216. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:20 AM

    Come on Lombo !!

  217. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:21 AM

    Ouch…. I hope their closer is okay… Don't wish injuries on anyone…

  218. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:22 AM

    Lombo swings at 2balls outside of the SZ… Unbelievable…He didnt throw 1 K and Lombo bailed him out…

  219. Secret wasian man - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    Admirable comeback. But in the end just another loss. Our bench guys stink stink stink.

  220. BigCat - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:27 AM

    MrsB. You are right on the money. Lombo swings at crap. Just horribleOh well. Another L

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