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Game 101: Pirates at Nats

Jul 24, 2013, 7:22 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

Davey Johnson hasn't been given his regulars very many days off lately, certainly not with the Nationals struggling so mightily to score runs. But there's no question a few guys could probably use a breather, so tonight two of the biggest names from the lineup are sitting: Bryce Harper and Ian Desmond.

We'll find out Davey's reasoning in each case. It's not all that surprising to see Harper get a day off against a tough left-hander in Francisco Liriano. But it is surprising to see Desmond sitting against this pitcher. Again, we'll see what the reason is in each case.

The benching of those two leads to some other changes, most notably Anthony Rendon sliding over to shortstop for his first career start at that position. Steve Lombardozzi will be at second base. Scott Hairston, meanwhile will be leading off and playing left field.

Oh yeah, and Stephen Strasburg is on the mound, trying to stop this five-game losing streak. Updates to come, so please check back…

PITTSBURGH PIRATES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 186
Weather: Partly cloudy, 81 degrees, Wind 10 mph in from LF

NATIONALS (48-52)
LF Scott Hairston
SS Anthony Rendon
3B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Jayson Werth

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430 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. A Fly Moses - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    On the plus side, this is the first time all season we'll have a competent bench. So that's nice…

  2. Tcostant - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Much rather have seen ALR sit instead of Desi.

  3. Nats106 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Agree with you Tcostant-regarding the article with players needing a break, didn't we just have an extended all star break just a week ago? Seems much longer.

  4. phil dunton - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    After nine seasons, managemwnt still hasn't solved the lack of a decent lead-off hitter problem. It started in 2005 with Endy Chavez and continues with Denard Span with lots and lots of other duds in between.

  5. Nats106 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Hairston batting leadoff with that whopping .167 average (or whatever it is)? Well, he did hit the ball hard Sunday right at 3B and SS, so maybe it will work.

  6. natsfan1a - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:39 PM

    A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you…" Um, what was it again? "Sometimes you" – it's right on the tip of my tongue. Oh yeah, right. Now I remember. "Sometimes you *win,* sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."Think about that for a while. Um, yeah, anyway. I'll take door number two, if you don't mind. Yeah, that would be real nice.

  7. Section 222 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    The blogger Harper has an interesting piece up about how infrequently our best reliever (Clipp) has been used in high leverage situations. Worth a look.

  8. Nats106 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Yes, that's Baseball 101. And since it's game 101, a win would be nice.

  9. Don - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    Rendon is playing SS? I get sitting Harper agaisnt a nasty leftie in Liriano, but would not Lombo be the back up SS right now?

  10. natsfan1a - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Actually, it's Bull Durham. :-)Nats106 said… Yes, that's Baseball 101. And since it's game 101, a win would be nice. July 24, 2013 3:41 PM

  11. karlkolchak - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    "Fun" fact: In his very first MLB start on 9/7/05, Ryan Zimmerman committed two errors while playing shortstop. He has not played SS for even one inning since that night. Good luck, Anthony.

  12. slidell2 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    Conventional wisdom would indicate that Steven better set his mind on pitching a shutout, and hope a Nat hits a dinger. OTOH, conventional wisdom doesn't necessarily apply to baseball.

  13. MikeinDC - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:52 PM

    Who's on Davey-watch tonight? With this lineup, we need to keep a close eye on him.

  14. Secret wasian man - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    I like the lineup. Heck if this doesn't work let Teddy play. I glad Desi is out. Are they charging Bowie Baysox prices tonight?

  15. timeless46 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Did Rendon play SS in any minor league game? I really do not understand having him play short right now. The kid is still trying to learn second, and he is slumping a little to boot. Why make it any harder on him. You want play Lombo (dont ask me why?), then sit Laroche against a tough Left hander, not Desi. And, does this mean Rendon is the back up SS? Oh well. Anyway, the Turnaround starts tonight. GYFNG!!!

  16. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Why in the world is Hairston leading off? And Im not so sure about Rendon at SS…But if it leads to a win, I will be the first to eat crow, as long as chocolate is on the side…

  17. Secret wasian man - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Slidell2. Conventional wisdom has us 4 games under .500. They should have never brought in Billy Taft as a 5th president. FDR in his wheelchair would have worked

  18. Section 222 - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    On the plus side, this is the first time all season we'll have a competent bench. And some great late-inning defensive replacements if by some miracle we get a lead.

  19. Secret wasian man - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Seriously folks? Why is anyone questioning this lineup? Nats had 3 hits last night. 3 HITS. At least Davey is trying. 6. 2. Nats win.

  20. The Real Feel Wood. Accept no substitutes. - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Yeah, Rendon can play third. Rendon can play second. Shortstop is right in between second and third, so no way Rendon can play short.

  21. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    222 – We are scoring 7 in the 2nd inning… I am burning sage as we speak…

  22. MicheleS - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    According to Julie Alexandria's twitter,Ian's got a nasty blister that broke open yesterday on his hand

  23. Pilchard - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    Fact is that no Nats pitcher has bigger problems dealing with defensive lapses than Strasburg. Giving Rendon his first MLB start at SS with Strasburg on the mound is a potentially explosive situation. BTW, Rendon has played 1 game at SS in his professional career. Not sure if he ever played SS at Rice. Really surprising move in light of Davey comments yesterday about Rendon's error at 2B: It takes at least 80 games at 2b to learn the position. So, the next day Rendon makes his MLB debut at SS. With all that said, this team is not going anywhere. So, why not mix things up.

  24. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:15 PM

    I wouldn't be suprised if the Nats have trouble getting 3 hits off Liriano tonite.

  25. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:19 PM

    Two best comments so far:A Fly Moses said… On the plus side, this is the first time all season we'll have a competent bench. So that's nice…and (someone with whom I've rarely agreed)Secret wasian man said… Seriously folks? Why is anyone questioning this lineup? Nats had 3 hits last night. 3 HITS. At least Davey is trying. 6. 2. Nats win.And one I disagree with:Pilchard said… Fact is that no Nats pitcher has bigger problems dealing with defensive lapses than Strasburg.That's old stuff. Not anymore. He busted that monkey.

  26. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    MicheleS said… According to Julie Alexandria's twitter,Ian's got a nasty blister that broke open yesterday on his handWell . . . there ya' go.As for playing SS, I suppose if Rendon has a stronger arm than Lombo . . .

  27. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Folks, I just want to repeat a tidbit from prior thread . . . On June 22nd — one month ago — the Dodgers were 11 games under .500 and last in the NL West (31-42). Now they are 5 games over .500 and in first. (52-47)Just takes a nice win streak to get things going.Although, that ain't happening until our bats come back from the dead . . . OTOH, maybe a couple of shutouts from our big three will buy some time for the bats 😉

  28. bowdenball - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    A Fly Moses said…"On the plus side, this is the first time all season we'll have a competent bench. So that's nice…"Best post of the day right out of the gate. +1 or whatever they're doing to compliment people on the internet these days.

  29. Section 222 - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    They brought Rendon up after 3 games of 2B experience at Syracuse and he's done fine. Not perfect, but fine. Since it sounds like Desi is injured, the question is who do you put at short. I'd much rather have Rendon's arm and athleticism there than Lombo's. It's a stopgap measure, not a permanent move. And he did play SS until college if I'm not mistaken.

  30. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    Poor Stras. He cannot catch a break this season. I am naming this " The Season of Building Character".

  31. Knoxville Nat - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    For all of you asking why ALR is not sitting against a tough lefty ho would you rather have at first base tonight, Chad Tracy? I think not.

  32. Knoxville Nat - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    And that should be "who" not "ho".

  33. Nats106 - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Pilchard, when you say explosive, do you mean Stras' seeming inability to get over defensive errors and lapses which result in a less than optimal pitching performance, or something else?And I heard Johnson as well saying it takes 80 games to learn 2nd so that move as well mystifies me. I certainly feel like we are in Bizarro world with the Nats, but as MrsB said, if Rendon makes no errors, Hairston gets on base 3 times and the Nats win, I'll eat crow.Somehow I don't think I'm going to be spitting out feathers, though

  34. Section 222 - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM

    Wonk, I love your optimism, but it's never been a question of whether it is theoretically possible for the Nats to get out of the hole they have dug themselves over the first 100 games. It's whether this team is capable of doing that. Do you see any sign, since we have been no better than 4 games over .500 since April 12, and have won no more than 5 straight all season long, that we are capable of the kind of hot streak that is needed at this point? I'm afraid I don't.

  35. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    I'll take Rendon over Lombardozzt at short every time. Rendon played as much short in Spring Training as he did at third. And you can bet he's taken alot of balls at short during batting practice.

  36. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Must be showcasing Lombo for a July 31 trade.

  37. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Looking at this lineup, I can only say one thing:"Two tickets for Bora Bora. Yes, leaving Aug. 15."

  38. Tcostant - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Mark Zuckerman tweeted @ZuckermanCSN Davey says Taylor Jordan has about 20-30 innings left this season before he's shut down.According to Boswell Rizzo hates when Davey discloses stuff like this. I think Davey is trying to yank Rizzo's chain after firing his friend…

  39. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    That would put Jordan somewhere around 150 innings which is alot for a guy who has never pitched 100 innings and is coming off TJ.Rizzo would say the same thing if asked.

  40. Alphabet Soup Erik - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:49 PM

    DC Wonk-Dodgers added Hanley and Puig, who both hit .400 for over a month…who are we adding to the lineup to do that? I still think they are in it, but they have about 2 more games to turn this around before it is too late. I would personally love to see them try to get Soriano from the Cubs…that guy can still carry an offense for a week or two and he loves the hot weather.

  41. Don - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Not sure I'd take Rendon over Lombo at any position other than 3B, but neither guy has played much SS at all. Maybe Davey is thumbing his nose in yet another way at Rizzo by bringing out the fact that the club has no infielder on the roster beyond Desi who can glove SS. Who knows. I hope Redon makes the plays, as the kid is a rookie trying to help a struggling club with big expectations, it is not like he needs his confidence crushed for the sake of some Davey vs Rizzo ego battle.

  42. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    baseballswami said… Poor Stras. He cannot catch a break this season. I am naming this "The Season of Building Character".For the players, or for the fans? 😉

  43. Tcostant - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    NatsJack in Florida said… That would put Jordan somewhere around 150 innings which is alot for a guy who has never pitched 100 innings and is coming off TJ.Rizzo would say the same thing if asked. Me: More like Rizzo would say something like we have a number in mind, without giving an actually number. Based on Stras last year.

  44. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    Rizzo hates Lombo at short.

  45. Joe Seamhead - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:52 PM

    ASsNatsJack said, Rendon got reps at short in spring training. Before his college coach moved him to 3rd he was a Texas All-State shortstop, so , though not the same as MLB, the position isn't totally alien to him. I'm not very confident about tonight at all.Liriano hasn't exactly been throwing batting practice lately.

  46. Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    So this is the anti-Rizzo lineup devised out of spite by Davey?And you don't think this FO has enough dysfunction to keep the Washington Psychiatric Institute booked fully for six months?

  47. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    Section 222 said…Wonk, I love your optimism … Do you see any sign … that we are capable of the kind of hot streak that is needed at this point? No. But I suspect that the Dodger fans didn't see any signs either.But what I do see are a bunch of hitters far below their historical averages. If they can start hitting (and I'm as mystified as the next person as to why they aren't) they can get a bunch of wins. Out of nowhere they starting hitting really well in the second half of last year.I'm not betting they will, but I think it's a lot less far fetched than most think.As the old saw goes: a team is never as bad as they look during a losing streak, and never as good as they appear during a winning streak.

  48. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me said… So this is the anti-Rizzo lineup devised out of spite by Davey?No. Ian's injured and Harper's slumping big-time against lefties.And you don't think this FO has enough dysfunction…No.

  49. ptindc - Jul 24, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    Reading through all the comments makes me miss last year. Regardless of the line up that got rolled out, we could count on being competitive. Now, we get down two runs at the start of the game and it seems like there's no way they can come back. Hard to believe where we today are with effectively the same roster.

  50. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    222 @ 4:30 p.m.,I'm afraid I have to agree with you. The Nats have now passed several of these noteworthy numbers of games over the past few months — 40 games = one-quarter of the season; 62 games down, 100 to go; 81 games = halfway through the season; now 100 games played, 62 left — and each time we've written about the winning percentage required to get back in the hunt or to reach 90 wins or the playoffs. But the reality is the Nats just keeping falling further behind and that 'required' winning percentage just keeps getting higher and higher.At the 40 games mark, their winning percentage was .525 and they were one game behind the Braves. At the 62-game mark it was .500 and they were 7 games back. At the 81-game threshold there was an ever-so-slight uptick (41-40 record and 6.5 games back), but at 100 games the Nats are at .480 and 8 games back. There's just no real sign that the team is going to turn it around this season.But that happens in baseball. And — as someone pointed out recently — even well-constructed teams sometimes have 'sophomore slumps' (I think the example given was Tampa Bay). I'm not ready to throw in the proverbial towel, but I've ratcheted down my expectations significantly.

  51. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    Good luck to Stras and his posse tonight. At this point some well placed luck might be just the ticket. I hope they are ignoring any front office politics and I also hope they are open to the new coach , who they already know. Maybe he will see something helpful or be able to communicate something in a new way. I am thinking positive thoughts for light bulbs going on and "aha!" moments.

  52. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Taylor is at 119 innings. Davey is a math major and knows the cut off is around 140 innings. He can work the numbers in his head. Rizzo can't.

  53. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Some great discussions today. I have to say though, some of the trade discussions are just comical. Why in the world would you trade a guy like Espinosa or Storen when their values are at an all time low? Or with LaRoche, what exactly do you think you're going to get for a 1B? Not exactly in high demand…I think the Mariners have about 5 1B/DH types on their roster alone.You need two teams to trade and you need to get a decent return for it to be worthwhile. Especially when, with LaRoche at least, you'd have to eat some salary.

  54. Secret wasian man - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    So the, " it's only April" crowd doesn't like this lineup. Well, for first time in 3 weeks I'm actually excited about watching the game.

  55. Section 222 - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Good recap Eugene. We've waited all season long for them to catch fire, and they haven't. Getting Bryce and Ramos back in the lineup was a minispark — we won 5 of 7 and 6 of 10 after Bryce's return. But it's been pretty much all downhill after that. Remember when Rizzo crowed on the radio that we had won 8 out of 13 games, and some of us were unconvinced that his selective sample meant the Nats had turned things around? That was on July 3. Since then, we've lost 11 of 16 games.

  56. John C. - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    So, let's see: Against a tough LHP Desmond is unavailable to play because a large blister burst on his hand (get well soon, Ian!). Let's review the alternatives: Zimmerman (hasn't played SS since 2005, shoulder woes earlier in the season); Lombardozzi (has played 2 games at SS in the majors, 20 in the minors, only 1 game since 2011; lacks arm strength, inexperienced at SS) and Rendon (Played one game at SS in Syracuse in 2013; strong 3b arm, inexperienced at SS). OK, no clear alternative, keep digging.Playing Lombardozzi at SS means you have two players in the infield playing at unfamiliar positions instead of just one. Plus, at 2b Lombardozzi's weaker arm can (mostly) get away with his disconcerting habit of hanging onto the ball too long before throwing – that won't play well at SS at all. Seems to me that Davey's call is not just defensible, it's the obvious correct call to make.Instead, the more hysterical commenters think that Davey is doing this out of spite: "thumbing his nose at Rizzo," preparing to quit by August 15 to depart for Bora Bora, that this is "bizarro world." Seriously?I know that it's against the basic ethos of the internet, but people should at least occasionally think things through before flinging comments against the wall like this is a primate cage. And for those who posted before Desi's injury was posted, it's the same principle. At least consider the possibility that there is a completely rational reason for the decision – you know, like Desmond is unavailable for the game.

  57. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    John C…..Thank you.

  58. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM

    Really, SWM? I would be interested on why you like it. I don't particularly have a feeling either way, just a bit surprised by your post and would like to know your thoughts on why you like it. Care to enlighten? And as for Bryce- I read a quote on twitter by our manager that he guesses he will have to start monitoring Bryce's knee more often. What???? Start???? Last week I was terrified he would come home lame from the ASG- and I think I would be demanding to see it for myself daily. Experience shows that Bryce would go out there with a limb hanging off.

  59. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    I know that it's against the basic ethos of the internet, but people should at least occasionally think things through before flinging comments against the wall like this is a primate cage.Whoa . . . dude . . . that's like a whole new paradigm, man.+1!

  60. slidell2 - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    I can remember when Liriano was a bum with the Twins, a member of the worst rotation in baseball. There's no reason that he can't reprise some of that ineptitude tonight; stranger things have happened.

  61. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Before his shoulder issues, Liriano was a stud in Minnesota. When he came back, he lost 5 mph on his fastball and got clobbered.He's back at 94 and nasty again.

  62. SCNatsFan - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    I just want to see the Nats play a complete good game. I miss that. Forget winning streaks I just want to win tonight.

  63. Sec. 1D 10T, My Sofa - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

    Didn't Michele advise us to grow a paradigm?

  64. andrew lang - Jul 24, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    "NatsJack in Florida said… Taylor is at 119 innings. Davey is a math major and knows the cut off is around 140 innings. He can work the numbers in his head. Rizzo can't."I spent the morning with Taylor Jordan and hopefully you got the voicemail I left you. I told Taylor what you told me when we were in Viera with your prediction that you could see Taylor in the Big in 2013.I asked him if he had discussed with Davey about a shutdown and he had not. I guess when he got to the stadium today he found out!Check the Twitter I sent you!

  65. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    SCNatsfan– Me, too!!!

  66. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    I can't figure out how Rendon gets out of this game NOT making at least 2 errors at short. Maybe they won't hit any to him.

  67. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    Thanks Andrew. I just listened to your message. Sorry I missed the call but I was working on a presentation for work.

  68. MicheleS - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM

    Sofa..Yes I did :-)

  69. nats guy - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    John C,I think the shoulder woes are still there for RZim.

  70. andrew lang - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    NatsJack, glad you liked it. We did a video of his slider grip and he talked about it. I won't give away his secret on his sinker because he has an unusual grip and we will keep that his secret.Extra info that SteveM asked for and I asked Taylor if he was going to add the cutter and the answer was that was the new pitch he would be working on in the off-season for use on the lefty batters!He also confirmed that his slider has gotten better with his work with Cat.This kid is going for it for 2014.

  71. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Very impressed with young Taylor!

  72. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    It's amazing how much the guys on MLB Network still believe in us. I wish I shared that confidence right now.

  73. ExposedinDC - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    Amen SCNats….amen

  74. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    David- I have been noticing the same thing, and not just one of them. I think it is based on the obvious talents of each individual. Their experiences have shown them that talented people usually right their ship. I soooo hope they are right!

  75. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Looks like DC United is getting their own stadium just a few blocks from Nationals Park.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/wp/2013/07/24/d-c-united-and-mayor-gray-reach-preliminary-deal-for-soccer-stadium-at-buzzard-point/

  76. MicheleS - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    David P… and takes away all the reasonable parking by the Park

  77. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    I metro in anyway so it's not a factor for me…but that's a good point. Didn't think about that.

  78. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    DC United? What the hell is that..Tonight Nats 3 Pirates 1

  79. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Metro is not feasible for me at all. How many dates would we overlap? Could they do Nats day/ Soccer night?

  80. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    Lets play good fundamental baseball tonight… That's all I ask… Hopefully the hate wake up and we will get the W…Lets win this… Go Nats!!!

  81. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Dang… Matt Kemp is back on the DL…

  82. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    MrsB- and so is Grilli. We broke them both on consecutive nights. Oops.

  83. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    I heart one pitch outs.

  84. MicheleS - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Merry Strasmas! Nice 1st inning

  85. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Two os Stras's 3 balls were strikes.Lets see is if Liriano gets squeezed to.

  86. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    1st inning is done… Good job SS…

  87. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Another backwards K

  88. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Liriano did not deserve that high strike call.

  89. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Pitch 4 was Jayson's pitch….

  90. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Well yeah, it was a 3-0 fastball down the middle. That's any hitter's pitch.

  91. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    It was in the zone though so I have no problem calling it.

  92. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    More of the same? All contact in the air. The way he pitches?

  93. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:26 PM

    But typically the Nats foul it off.

  94. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    The same Werth fouls Alverez hits one like it for a homer.

  95. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Well the Pirates scored a run. Game over.

  96. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    This gets soooo old sooooo fast.

  97. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    At work… So I'm watching on pitch track…

  98. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Well Werth has hit enough of them that I'll give him a break. Ryan got a pitch to hit and just got under it. He's not raking so he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt

  99. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Charlie and Dave just pointed out that during this entire homestand, the Nats have held the lead for exactly 1/2 an inning.Uggh . . .

  100. ExposedinDC - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Pretty depressing when your down 1-0 with 8 ab's to go and you feel like your out of it

  101. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    David Proctor said… Well Werth has hit enough of them that I'll give him a break. Ryan got a pitch to hit and just got under it.I don't think anybody's criticizing their at bats. Or, I didn't take it that way. Or, at least: I'm not thinking that. We're just bemoaning the results.

  102. BigCat - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    I was gonna say the way you get out of a slump is to shut someone out. Nope

  103. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Yeah I wasn't criticizing…. I just said that was his pitch…

  104. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Fair enough Wonk and MrsB. It's so frustratign when 1 run feels like 10. Last year, 10 felt overcomeable.

  105. ExposedinDC - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Overcomeable might be the best word ever typed on this site

  106. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Dont abandon the fast ball. Mix them all up.

  107. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    David Proctor said… Well the Pirates scored a run. Game over.July 24, 2013 7:28 PMTop of the 2nd and the Doom and Gloom starts. I was enjoying reading through the earlier posts and the Taylor Jordan info. Ray Knight remarked that Taylor was achieving good downward movement on his slider. If he did get a cutter to help against LHs, that is huge and appreciated the intel A.L.Now to the bottom of the 2nd.

  108. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    Just saying when you are losing you miss balls to get ahead.

  109. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Correct bottom of second last Friday. Dodgers then scored 2 top 3

  110. Candide - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

    Not a real strong throw from RZ, but accurate, at least.

  111. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    One could say " overcombable" when referring to that bald spot on the top of my head.

  112. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    I wasnt criticizing Werth, was criticizing falling behind again.

  113. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    You dont lose when you throw a shutout.

  114. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Are Schu and McCatty related? They look alike.

  115. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    I think it's the mustache, baseballswami.

  116. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    I'm so tired of "rolled over" pitches resulting in weak ground balls.

  117. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Wrote elsewhere, but will repeat.Nats are 14th in the league in runs. They are also last in the amount of men left on base.Bottom line we get too few runners to start with.

  118. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    When pull an outer half the plate pitch, your begging for a roll over hit.The high number of those are what I have talked about since April.

  119. BigCat - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Lets see if stra comes inside any this inning. Watch

  120. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    I don't have evidence of this, but I suspect that the low LOB stat is influenced by the early season. With a couple of exceptions (last night being one), it feels like we're getting men on base much more often than we were. We're just not doing anything with them.

  121. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Just remember. It's all about the hitting coach.

  122. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    Span got another hit! On July 10.Against the Phillies, when he hit a dribbler and the ball was thrown into right field. It should have been a hit+error, but was scored a 2-base error. Apparently, the official scorers just changed it to a hit.OK, now if we, he, anybody, could get some on July 24 . . .

  123. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    baseballswami said… Are Schu and McCatty related? They look alike. Are you joking or are you being serious?

  124. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    Nats are 14th in the league in runs. They are also last in the amount of men left on base.Bottom line we get too few runners to start with. Similarly, Nats have a higher rank in RISP then they do in BA. Same deal: the problem isn't hitting with men on base, it's hitting period.The two stats (mine and yours) together show that the Nats are actually slightly _over_ performing in scoring runs *as compared to* their batting average.Just need some hitting, boys . . .

  125. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Big Cat finally a couple 98

  126. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Did SS just fool Marte? Seemed like a good series..

  127. ExposedinDC - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    Natsjack…. I prefer to call it "lack of hitting coach"

  128. A DC Wonk - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:52 PM

    And Chad Tracy got an error removed from him over the weekend, too.

  129. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Nice read on Taylor Jordanhttp://www.masnsports.com/byron_kerr/2013/07/davey-believes-taylor-jordan-a-good-fit-for-2014.html

  130. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    That error on Tracy was a complete joke. You can't call an error on a shorthop like that. Bob and FP wouldn't shut up about it, but it really was an egregious ruling.

  131. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    So far when se e Schu engaging with players on the bench that is a step up.Eck hid in a corner and wrote on his clipbosrd. That is not coaching. That is stat keeping.

  132. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    They look a little similar.

  133. David Proctor - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Is it possible that the cameras are showing Schu more because he's new and Eck did this all along but it wasn't shown on television? I suspect that's the case.

  134. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Mike Rizzo sitting with the owners once again behind the on-deck circle.

  135. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Overall batting .239 i read .235 RISP.

  136. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Ghost – of course I am joking- it's the matching staches. I must keep my sense of humor when watching the Nats play.

  137. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    Don't tell me the Nats don't monitor these blogs.

  138. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    No eck didnt sit in the front he sat in the back.Schu is up front where a coach should be.

  139. baseballswami - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    David-, they showed Eck a lot, actually. He was in the back if the dugout and always had his open notebook.

  140. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM

    swami, I was thinking to myself, I don't see it. Just add that 😉 wink a thing or upside down question mark. Thanks for the chuckle!

  141. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Scott Hairston is due. He got his LHP matchup.

  142. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    If they did they hit the other way on outside pitches more

  143. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    I knew I saw tge same thing. Never engaging with anyone. His stats were important to him, but talking to the hitters during the game was not on his radar.

  144. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Right now I'll settle for a hit…

  145. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    What are you people talking about? Eck was always close to the steps that lead to the on deck circle during Nats at bats. And I mean ALWAYS.

  146. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    Nice throw by Zimmerman.

  147. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    Julie must have interviewed me as Rizzo sounded like me.

  148. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    Never saw that. Just saw him and his damn notebook.

  149. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    NatsJack, doesn't it get old trying to correct people on the fiction and BS that some write here.

  150. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    I am really flabbergasted at how bad the hitting is. They are not going to score. They look like they may lose every game remaining. I'm not upset anymore. I almost feel sorry for them.

  151. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Nice curve for the K. Taking to many pitches per batter though.

  152. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    I never feel sorry for any of them.

  153. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    And now you'll see Rick Schu spitting sunflower seeds. You won't see him talking to guys in the game. Yesterday they showed him with his buddy from Arizona, Chad Tracy during the game but unlike Eck, he won't take notes during the game.

  154. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

    Wow, field empties and Ump calls it a ball and not a strike. I think their pitch track needs recalibration. It's not where the catcher catches it as it's where the ball crosses the plate.Nats better get the d— bats going! Support your pitchers! Play some smart ball with the top of the order!

  155. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    We will see the next 2 months

  156. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    I am really mad at La Roche for almost never trying to go the other way against that shift. He's starting to look like Span out there.

  157. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    Stras 16 pitches per inning. Woul like to get that to 12 to meet my expectations.

  158. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Rendon hasn't put a barrel on a ball in a week at least.

  159. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    SWM, when ALR came out of his slump he was hitting them over the shortstop. He's not doing it much anymore.

  160. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Did carp just say this pitcher was crafty? No he's not. Our guys couldn't hit a ball if it was on a tee. And could that FAT ugly manager for the pirates jam any more gum in in face? Disgusting

  161. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    MNF, if Stras was throwing 12 an inning that would be tops in the Majors.

  162. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    Agree ghost. But every swing is a hard PULL.

  163. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Ball in the dirt again and we strike out. Just unreal.

  164. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    The Nats pitch recognition isn't great by these veterans.RZim, just another routine strikeout.

  165. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    At least JWerth didn't go fishing!

  166. JaneB - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Jeez Louise, what is going on with these guys? I feel worse for them than I do for us. It's heartbreaking. I was on a plane to the West Coast today with a Cubs fan who spent 90 minutes in a monologue lamenting the loss of Matt Garza. I just listened. He FINALLY said, "You seem to know a lot about baseball. Who do you follow?" I said, "The Nats.""Oh," he says. " 'World Series or bust.' That's the end of that." OY. OY OY.I hope Stras keeps facing down these guys. I hope the defense holds strong. I love them, but I'm not going to hope the offense picks up until I have reason to hope. I grew up on the Mets. I know how to love 'em when there's not much hope to pull you through.Oy.

  167. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Don't wont a win, don't wont a run. Just want a hit. I mean is Walter Matthau managing this bunch. Do doo do doo. Do doo do doo

  168. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    ALR damn near hit one out to left yesterday.

  169. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM

    3 hits in 13 innings.

  170. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    In this series in the 3 games through 4 innings the Nats have 2 hits. Harper a lead off single and the Buffalos home run.

  171. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    Damn near only counts in lawn darts, horse shoes and hand grenades.

  172. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

    For a whole season.Just need it for a game

  173. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Anthony Rendon…..a diferent kind of whiff.

  174. Another_Sam - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Has anyone used this material: "The Electric Prunes have more hits than this bench."

  175. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    NatsJack in Florida said… ALR damn near hit one out to left yesterday. That is true. Like I said, he's not doing it much anymore. That flyout went to left.

  176. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Only a matter of time before some insiders start calling for the return of Danny Espinosa

  177. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    Ghost your right. It just doesnt seem like anybody trying anything different. It's time for harp to get in there now.

  178. TimDz - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    I'm thinking of buying stock in Papa Johns….This team may not score 7 runs in this series, let alone one game….

  179. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    This is amazing. Like watching a car accident, I can't turn away.

  180. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    So how long till the Nats get their new hitting coach the teams 4th hit during his tenure?

  181. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    Everything right at the Pirates. Off the bat I thought Ramos had a hit.

  182. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    FP just said Nats trying to string together some hits. You gotta get one before you can string any.

  183. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    The other team's advance scouts do a great job as we hit a majority right at the fielders.

  184. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Span never beats out infield hits.

  185. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Are you kidding me… He threw 4 d*mn pitches that inning!?!?!?!!

  186. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    5 pitches of frustration for the Nats. That was ugly. At least Ramos hit a line drive and Span finally went to 3rd base on a grounder although the same results – no hits.

  187. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    This is just unbelievable. They may never get a hit again.

  188. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    No. He facitiously said "some hit"….singukar.

  189. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    Span has 12 infield hits. Nobody is going to beat out that play.

  190. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:32 AM

    I'm sorry… 5 pitches…. Just gross….Come on guys…

  191. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Who should I be rooting for, the Braves or the Mets? The Mets are about to pass us….

  192. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    So it's ok for Marte to try bunt.

  193. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Just when you thought it was rock bottom, the team goes out, rents a jack hammer and starts drilling through the rock.

  194. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Strasburg's VELO is sizzling tonight!

  195. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Realistically I'd be amazed if this team didn't get no hit this season.

  196. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Vince Coleman and Jose Reyes beat that out, DP…. but of course, Span is no Vince Coleman. I doubt that he could even carry Vince Coleman's sock…..

  197. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

    Rendon's 1st positive play at SS.

  198. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    "Span never beats out infield hits."=================Denard Span has 13 infield hits this season.

  199. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    Tomoorow in the 5th inning. No more all star breaks if this what happens when you take a few days off.

  200. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:35 AM

    BTW MLB Extra Innings is free this week…..

  201. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Man are we looking at getting no hit by Levoinerstferwsbm? Or whatever that pitchers name is?

  202. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Time to leave. Too many of the usual suspects have shown up.

  203. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Is 13 infield hits supposed to be great or something? Span has only better than average speed. Keep deluding yourself that he is Vince Coleman….

  204. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

    Sc natsfan. Don't touch that dial. You may see it here within the hour.

  205. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    Bye.

  206. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Have had it tge last 6 years. Always my Christmas present to myself.

  207. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Bye Nats jack. Don't worry the season is still young.

  208. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

    Strasburg keeps giving up these homers and just giving away games. He really needs to stop giving up runs when he is pitching….

  209. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Wrong Carp…..mets losing 6-0 is good news

  210. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM

    Hey, it is only August and don't any of you LOD guys remember the Miracle Braves of '14…. Sad that we have to root for the Braves tonight to maintain 3rd place, so it is not bad news, necessarily, Bob.

  211. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    A hit…. A hit…. My kingdom for a hit……

  212. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    Alverez missed the scouting meeting.

  213. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:44 AM

    Sad that qualifies as a good inning right now no matter what zim does

  214. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… So far when see Schu engaging with players on the bench that is a step up.And it's helping _so_ much right now ;-)Hey — if we keep saying "no hitter, no hitter", does that count for jinxing the pictcher?

  215. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:45 AM

    Quick, decisive, and questionable. I would've impartially ruled that an error.

  216. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    "Vince Coleman and Jose Reyes beat that out, DP…."========================In 2012, Jose Reyes played in 160 games for the Marlins. He had 20 infield hits. Denard Span has 13 in 100 games. Roughly the same pace.

  217. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    When I came here about 2 seasons ago I was lump in with the LODers. That group included myself, rabbit, WODL, Mick… As a proud member of LOD I would like to start the WBF club. " WE'LL BE FINE". You guys know who you are. And welcome.

  218. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

    Could the wheels have suddenly fallen off Luriano, setting up a 3-run tater by laRoche?maybe so

  219. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Correction: for Werth

  220. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    Hey — if we keep saying "no hitter, no hitter", does that count for jinxing the pictcher? July 24, 2013 8:45 PM I'll count that as a jinx! (I actually posted before the hit, but my browser got real slow for a bit)

  221. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    .water ….. water …… water … oh, I mean, hits ….. hits …..

  222. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    That was strike 3

  223. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    6 for 76 RISP now

  224. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Werth lets a beauty go by — go figure

  225. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    Good call SWM….bwcause you're right. We are and always will be fine.

  226. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    WERTh gets an extra strike and then stands there. Yuck goodnight.

  227. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    anybody see a pitch track? wasn't that pitch in the exact same spot as the pitch before?

  228. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Werth doing a great Matt Stairs impression with that AB

  229. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Werth was mad because the 4th pitch called a strike after 3 rd wasn't. The third was miscalled not the 4th

  230. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said… Is 13 infield hits supposed to be great or something?How does he compare to anyone else on the Nats?

  231. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    Never showed pitch track.i thought both were strikes.

  232. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    wasian lol

  233. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    haha old Span is gonna be huffin and puffin for 5 minutes!!

  234. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    Good to see Denard get his jersey dirty! I know he says he doesn't dive but I will take a sliding catch!

  235. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    So you are saying he has better speed than Vince Coleman and Jose Reyes? I severely doubt that, but check the career records. One thing we know is that Span can't steal an important base to save his life. Reyes and Coleman routinely go to 3rd after being walked or getting a dink hit.

  236. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Stras is cruising .. keep em away from Rendon, Stas — although he already knows that, doesn't he?

  237. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Just showed pitch track and 4 strikes. 1 would have been a ball had Werth not swung.

  238. Eugene in Oregon - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    "Is 13 infield hits supposed to be great or something? Span has only better than average speed. Keep deluding yourself that he is Vince Coleman…."=======================Never suggested 13 is great; you wrote 'never' and I simply pointed out that 13 hits is 13 greater than 'never'. 'Never' is hyperbole. Thirteen is the real number. Never suggested he was Vince Coleman or Jose Reyes. As I pointed out the other day, Denard Span is pretty much an average hitter for a CF and lead-off hitter, minus a bit of power.

  239. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    Strasburg keeps giving up a run or two whenever he pitches. You can't expect to win games when you give up runs…..

  240. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    I don't think you are in the LOD if you thought this team was going to the World Series and are upset we are crowding 4th place. And I don't think you are in the LOD if you are upset with the horrendous offense and lack of emotion this team has shown this year. Doesn't mean you don't love the team any less but you hate the results. If you are a Nats fan and you are satisfied with this performance then God bless you.

  241. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    span runs like Fred Sanford

  242. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

    We gotta score some runs here!!!!

  243. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

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  244. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    I didnt read anyone saying he was faster than Coleman.

  245. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

    fast moving game

  246. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:57 AM

    Manassas Nats' Fan said… Overall batting .239 i read .235 RISP.NL Overall .252, RISP .250But, more relevant to what I was saying — the Nats are 13th in overall batting and — hmm — I can't seem to find how they rank in RISP compared to the rest of the league . . . .

  247. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:58 AM

    Look who is here posting: the true baseball fans who like the Nats. The "positive thinking" people aren't baseball fans. They are Nats fans only, which a lot of people on here seem to think is a positive. That is garbage to me. I study other teams like the Cardinals and Reds and I respect their history and I enjoy watching them when they play beautiful baseball. I am a baseball fan first and a Nats' fan second.

  248. BigCat - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:59 AM

    Why not laroche bunt? Pitiful

  249. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    If ALR is goingvlook that poor against Lariano he should just stick the bat out and hit to left.

  250. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

    I always felt labeling people "Legion of Doom" was just a cheesy way of shutting up fans not happy with one thing or another. People who I've seen excoriate others for being LOD members are now far more negative than many the LODer's the chastised. Some are here tonight. I think it's funny and part of the entertainment of this crazy forum.Still, I can't decide: are most people here under 25 or over 65? I can't make up my mind.

  251. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    natssince startlol

  252. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Because he doesnt think like you and me. We have discussed this too many time.

  253. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:02 AM

    But you admit you knew I was engaging in hyperbole, so I guess we aren't disputing anything at all. I just really wanted a Vince Coleman kind of guy and instead we got a guy who is decent but nothing more and we have already had that in centerfield many times since Wilkerson left.

  254. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:03 AM

    wonder if Davey will blame Stras for giving up the homer

  255. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    In between.

  256. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:04 AM

    I believe it was 12th i remember it was 26th in the majors

  257. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    One think that I explained to my son is that when your team falls out of it, you can still enjoy the beauty of the game. This is a nicely played game for the most part. We can't win every year.

  258. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Stras has been awesome

  259. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Love the way Stras is pitching tonight. Loved the high 4 seamer K

  260. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    Even though he said he won't quit you wonder how much longer Davey puts up with this team. He looks horrid in interviews. You know this season is eating him up and I hate to see that.

  261. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    funny how people are just realizing what type of player Span is. Are you just noticing now? Or did you know all along but went along with the crowd thinking Pollyannish kinda thoughts?Span is an above average CF, contact hitter, but lacks gap and homerun power — gets triples, but must pull the ball in order to do it. Like to get the ball in the air, when his type should be hitting it on the ground or line drives — slow reflexes prevent him from being a good basestealer, and a low obp has him turning out to be a poor leadoff guy. But this was readily known before we made the deal — if anyone cared to look at the time

  262. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    agreed Ghost

  263. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    We all wax back and forth, but one thing that stats guys don't stress enough is inter-year variation. Go back to the early 70's when teams kept the same core for years and teams would have surprising variance in record, but maybe less so in run differential….

  264. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:08 AM

    I love the way both have pitched. Being an ex-catcher, well pitched games are my favorite.Idiot commentors, not so much.

  265. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    At least, with 12 K's, Stras is looking like the guy we thought we had. That is a huge positive.

  266. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    can we score 1 freaking run??????

  267. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:09 AM

    Davey's MO: excitement to begin with — ego sets in — clashes with management — makes public comments of displeasure — bad blood develops — Davey is gone on October 1 — souring another relationship with yet another team

  268. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    Except for one pitch about 6 inches more inside than Ramos asked for Strasburg nearly perfect. So far that mistake is the difference.The few Luriano errors were not hit. Nit sure Stras even had another close to a mistake.

  269. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:10 AM

    I see braves are up 6-0

  270. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    well, I'll be darn: we got a hit!!

  271. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM

    The strange thing NatsFanSinceStart, is that I have looked at various Nats blogs and they were overwhelmingly in favor of the Span acquisition, so that must be said in favor of Rizzo. Boswell held back more than most and said that the Span and Haren deals were uncertain but probably worth trying.

  272. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    If you are going to bunt, why not use JZim???? I don't get this guy.

  273. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:12 AM

    Who is a better bunter Suzuki or Stras? Going to bunt let stras do it.

  274. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    A successful sacrifice? Heavens above!

  275. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Sacrifice works but now you just burned a position player for a bunt.

  276. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Do you all realize we just played a little small ball? the world has turned inside out!

  277. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    SS has been phenomenal tonight…. Like last night, another pitcher suffering from no run support….Ugh…

  278. BigCat - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    Got a feelin

  279. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    You're right William, I think. I seem to remember Bos being luke-warm about the Span thing. But no longer — last month in his column he declared the Morse dumping and Span Acqu. a Bad deal and "let's move on."

  280. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    So mick, was Plant awesome or what? Saw Stevie Miller last night. Good but he ain't Plant.

  281. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:16 AM

    Hairston seems like he is having a good battle…

  282. BigCat - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Curly tonight

  283. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Anyone here who wouldn't want a healthy Michael Morse in the on deck circle?

  284. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    That was too close to not swing… Haven't care for this blue but …. Hairston you have to swing at that….

  285. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Sorry Hairston, that was a strike.

  286. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Nice job Hairston you bum. That's was a strike all the way. My god we can't even go down swinging. Just disgusting.

  287. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Hairston is the only guy in North America who thought that was a ball.

  288. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Swing the Bats, nationals — swing the bats. This ump has been inconsistent all night — you gotta bed ready to swing. Lets swing more and have to whine and moan less about a called third strike.

  289. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    ,6 for 79Missed a hittable pitchSo far we haven taken a backsrd K in both RISP situations.Can guarentee almost no runners ever score on a called strikeout.Bad approach again.

  290. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    hairston is a joke. what a worthless trade

  291. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    You realize all Hairston has done so far is choke in key situations. Nothing bigger than the K with a man on 3rd and 2nd and 1 out.

  292. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    See, that shows why it was wrong to condemn Harper based on the pitch track. You cannot trust those things. It was ridiculous to see people who didn't even watch that Miami game come on here the next day and say he was wrong about the ump's call. And that is without mentioning that there is no right/wrong in terms of umpiring. There is only consistency…..

  293. JayB - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Bowden called 3rd strikes will kill you

  294. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    These guys don't swing because they know they can't hit. They are just praying for a walk. Rendon???? No way.

  295. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Yeah Ghost – he hasn't had as many good at bats in situations that I had hoped for… But again, it's a reason why he was available…

  296. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    Scott, you're wrong. You must not go up looking for a walk.Ghost, not just a position player, but your only backup catcher. Of course, that only would matter if we tie it up, etc.

  297. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    this joke of a player has 1 hit

  298. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    If you're gonna sign a Hairston, it would be Jerry, not the little bro. His pickup and Eck's axing demonstrates that Rizzo is not sleeping well these days

  299. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:21 AM

    6 for 80

  300. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:22 AM

    6-81 with RISP.

  301. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Rendon needs to sit awhile. Let Lombo play.

  302. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    This is just a mediocre team that played so far above its head last year. Had me fooled but fooled a lot of sportswriters smarter then me.

  303. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Lerners bring back Morse and they are the heroes, along with the GM, whoever it may be…..

  304. Candide - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    Team's season BA with RISP and 2 outs is below the Mendoza line.

  305. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    I fell one behind 6 for 81.The three tonight havent hit a fair ball.

  306. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:24 AM

    I think it's time to bring in the voodoo dolls and sacrificing some chickens from to help this team.

  307. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    Great pitching duel. Strasburg deserves better. One mistake pitch. Still don't get it-Hairston leading off. "Being due" is no reason to do that. Hell, I've been due to get a hit for 38 years.

  308. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    WODL, that was a strike to Scott Hairston. Good pitch, but you can't let that go by, just as Werth should not have watched his called third strike.

  309. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    I can't believe DJ is using Storen right now…

  310. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Lets see if Storen can keep it at 1

  311. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Joe Seamhead said… Ghost, not just a position player, but your only backup catcher. Of course, that only would matter if we tie it up, etc. Exactly. Davey just not thinking. What happens if this goes into extra innings?

  312. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Because he's just mean. Turning into a vindictive old man

  313. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Storen look shaky to me — My feeling is Storen needs a new team and new start — maybe a pitching coach that communicates well with him. I will celebrate if he gets out of the inning with no runs scored

  314. Candide - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:27 AM

    MrsB, I think Davey figures this game is lost anyway, so let's give Storen a chance to have a good outing.

  315. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Heart of the lineup coming up in the bottom half. I promise it will be 3 quick outs. I blame this whole hitting swoon on Desmond, Zimm, harp and especially ALR. These guy are supposed to be the back bone. The vets, the leaders, the guys who make the $$$$$ and they just are absolutely pathetic at the plate.

  316. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    Candide – I hope not… Good Lord, I hope not…But did he really use Suzuki as a PH?

  317. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:28 AM

    You mean the fart of the lineup? I'd call the middle of the order blue plains.

  318. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Oh Drew. Not what the Doc ordered with a leadoff hit.

  319. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    Marte should steal

  320. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    I thought it was a strike to Hairston too, from the front, but from the side, it appeared to be a ball. Who knows? It has to do with expectations and consistency….

  321. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:29 AM

    too man head cases on this team…it is sickening to watchI feel for Stras, this no account bunch owes him an apology tonight and they owe all Nats fans one as well

  322. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    This is kinda embarrassing…. But it makes you angry that your SP only had 2 hits against him but the relief pitcher comes in and bam… Instant hit…This offensive production is terrible…Come on Drew… Lets Go Nats…

  323. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Air just vented out of Nats Park.

  324. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Drew Storen…prepare to be sent to AAA when Ryan Mattheus returns. Sorry bud.

  325. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Groundhogs day…….again

  326. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:30 AM

    Drew Storen is trying peoples' patience….

  327. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    That didn't take long — two batter: two hits, one run. Oh Drew – your time here is just about over

  328. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:31 AM

    Again… I didnt understand why DJ used Storen here… He has made some terrible/glaring decisions these last games…

  329. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:32 AM

    2 batters… Drew has the same amount of hits in this 1 inning then Strass had the entire game…

  330. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Drew, if you have lost David Proctor, then you are screwed….

  331. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Johnson is just an ass for putting him in. It's like he's trying to deflate the last ion of confidence he might have had. UFB

  332. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Maybe he's in a pending trade offer and was being "showcased" tonight. who knows

  333. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Drew…all you do is remind us of game 5…I do not feel sorry for this head case at all.

  334. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Thanks Davey your Storen experiments back fires just like Monday.People feel sorry for him, but I dont i just am mad at him. Stras works hard and succesful and he comes in and they are clobbering him.

  335. pedrocerrano - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    The team needs to publicly declare that they surrender, get on their knees, and wear their shame.

  336. JayB - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM

    Bowden keep telling yourself how Storen is worth keeping on the MLB roster and I'll keep saying any replacement stiff is better chance to help win a game

  337. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    MrsB, I have no problem with Storen to start the 9th but I look at it as a ROOGY and pull him when Walker steps in and go with a lefty.Strasburg Ace start wasted! This is not acceptable.

  338. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Johnson wants to be done of Storen and I don't blame him.

  339. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Drew is a guy who I don't want to trade because his stuff is still nasty. The problem is he can't control it. Send him to AAA (he has options) for the rest of the year, let him work on his command and holding runners and then let him try out for a spot in Spring Training next year.

  340. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    MNFno way in hell I feel sorry for Storen.

  341. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    Total meltdown — total joke — only I'm not laughing.Game 5 apparently totally ruined this kid. Hide the sharp objects when Storen goes home tonight

  342. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:36 AM

    And you guys wonder why Rizzo got Soriano?

  343. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    Storen's has better stuff than Soriano… He just isn't commanding it well right now…Ghost – Storen's confidence is kinda shot… So I don't undertsand why he doesn't just face RHBs for the time being… Let him get himself together…

  344. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    I believe the odds we score in the bottom of the 9th has increased

  345. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    NatsFanSinceStart exactly and that means he was too soft to begin with, a true pro, with heart and guts would have gotten over game 5 best thing for Nats is to get rid of his ass ASAP

  346. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    Storen has the nastiest stuff of anybody in the bullpen. The problem is he can't control it at all and so it doesn't matter how nasty his stuff is. Send him to AAA to work on his command.

  347. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    Forget Drew: inconsequential when the team is hitting the way they're hitting:2011: averaged 3.8 runs per game; after 100 games they were 49-51.2013: averaging 3.7 runs per game; after 100 games 48-52.

  348. NatsFanSinceStart - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    The closeup of Davey yanking Storen was telling. Davey said nothing, Storen wouldn't look at him.Both of those guys will be elsewhere next year

  349. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:39 AM

    Johnson coming to the mound to take Storen out. I wish someone would go into the dugout and take Johnson out of the game.

  350. pedrocerrano - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Maybe davey should rest his big bats when dan haren is pitching. Effing moron.

  351. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    NatsFanSinceStarti am hoping tomorrow

  352. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Joe Seamhead said… And you guys wonder why Rizzo got Soriano? Not only did I suggest a new Boras closer in November the P**** told me I was nuts.It was one of Rizzo's wise moves even though he way overpaid.

  353. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    what was 2012 after 100 games

  354. pedrocerrano - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    ….not that it would have mad a difference

  355. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    The thing is, relievers used to routinely pitch several innings. Now if they pitch 3 innings a week, people say they are overused…..

  356. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:40 AM

    Tim Hudson being carted off the field.

  357. JayB - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    Wait earn a spot and we are not talking about a spring traing nats foursome and morning tee time?

  358. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:41 AM

    And Proctor, you are right. Once Storen gets his head on straight he'll be fine. I think of Lidge in Houston then going to Philly

  359. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    MNF:60-40 after 100 games in 2012; they averaged 4.5 runs per game

  360. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    http://gif.mocksession.com/2013/07/hudson-ankle/Don't click that if squeemish. it's Hudson's injury.

  361. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    They laughed at me when I said in June that Nats would lose 8 straight at some point… they are at 6 now…"they also laughed at me at the University" (line from Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde) lol

  362. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    Ouch….

  363. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    As long as they didn't laugh in gym class, you are okay, Mick…..

  364. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    I just heard about Hudson… I will not click on that link DP… I want to sleep well tonight…

  365. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    MrsB loves the Nats said… Ghost – Storen's confidence is kinda shot… So I don't undertsand why he doesn't just face RHBs for the time being… Let him get himself together…Yep, I pull him as soon as a LH walks into the batters box.

  366. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    What is Drew's ERA now?

  367. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Wiliamha ha ha

  368. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Don't think ankles are supposed to bend 90 degrees from the side.

  369. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    he's Fing ABADlol

  370. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Omg… Hairston has a weak arm… Good gracious….

  371. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    RZim was not even ready when that ball was hit. It went by him before he started his dive. Just pathetic.

  372. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM

    Storen puts them on and Abad lets them score. All go on Storen's ERA only right has he gone completly south the last several weeks.

  373. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    Mrs B, yes he does. It goes well with that weak bat of his.

  374. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    man oh man….our team really sucks right now

  375. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:47 AM

    If davey gave a damn about this team he would leave NOW. What a horrible manager he has become.

  376. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    MrsB, right behind you on Hairston's noodle arm. That was embarassing.

  377. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    Mick, this team is just so poorly managed. It's almost as though Johnson wanted to make sure that they had no hope of mounting any kind of comeback.

  378. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    Exactly Ghost…. This is like the 4th game after the break where the team has seemingly won the game in the 9th… Help him get himself together by having him play to his strengths and so he can get comfy and gaine his confidence… He has the stuff… He needs the command…When the pitching is on, our bats go dead…When the bats are on, the pitching is wack…One of these days, we are going to find a way to out it together…

  379. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:48 AM

    well storen and ABAD in way have left the no account offense off the hook…1-0 it would have been all on them

  380. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    The problem goes back to Davey managing 2012. Rizzo wanted him for interim manager in 2011. I don't think he wanted him for 2012, but Davey got his "juices" flowing, and how could Rizzo say, no? THEN, Davey managed the team to 98 wins, a YEAR ahead of schedule and Rizzo had to put up with all the Stras shutdown nonsense, which would have been meaningless if the Nats had been an 85 win team, as was Rizzo's plan. 2014 was the year Rizzo had in mind for playoff contention.Davey (IMO) did a good job keeping the team's head above water in the first half of 2012, with the injuries and only LaRoche hitting. When the team took off, all he had to do was tag along for the ride. Now, what was Rizzo going to do? Davey is manager of the year, team won the Division, came within an inch of the NLDS…

  381. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Nats may finish last in East…"From first to Worst"

  382. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Why is the manager supposed to resign, Secret? Shouldn't Rizzo resign instead? These are his players….

  383. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    You could have Strasburg bunt instead of Suzuki. And had him for the ninth. We may lose100 games.

  384. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    let's be positive…come on you face of the franchise you, lets get something started

  385. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:50 AM

    I'm not giving up hope… But good Lord… Come on Nats… I know you all are feeling worst than I am…Please get it together…. It's not like y'all don't have the talent to do it…

  386. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    Good at bat Ryan…

  387. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:51 AM

    This should've been and needed to be a 1-0 game going into the bottom of the 9th……..

  388. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    Wasian and nats106AGREED!!!

  389. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    I HATE DREW STOREN!!!!!!!!!

  390. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    No Daveys going anyway. Just go early. He makes all the wrong in game moves. He has all season. I like the guy personally but he has been awful. Just awful.

  391. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Storen gets the loss!

  392. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    That would've been a Walk-off if you believe the Nats did that against Melancon and Storen held it at 1-0

  393. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    again, the only winner and guy with heart comes thru again

  394. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Good goin Werth…. Man if those runs in the top 9th don't hurt…Unh unh unh… This was a perfect night for a walk off….And we got a Hr and it wasnt a solo!!!!

  395. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    Storen now 5.40What did i tell you toren would end up costing us tge game.2 games this series storen screwed 100% up.

  396. Unknown - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:53 AM

    I hope all of you people yelling for Abad the past few days have realized he's a sorry excuse for a major leaguer.

  397. David Proctor - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Thanks Storen.

  398. mick - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    now i really cant stand storen!!!!

  399. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    So glad I opted not to go again tonight. Like I said before, I did my penance this past weekend. All 3 Dodger games. That's enough losing for one week.

  400. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Lol… I swear Ghost and I are not the same person… Lol…NL – I think DJ uses Storen wrong…

  401. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    I heard that they were going to fire the Nats' coach in charge of teaching players to catch the ball after Storen coughed up the ball Monday night.

  402. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    I wish Werth would have done that against Liriano, then we would not have seen Storen. Well, Ghost, you are right. You can't assume either Zim's hit or Werth's HR. But it is still unbelievably aggravating.

  403. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:55 AM

    NatsLady said… I HATE DREW STOREN!!!!!!!!!Calm down, you don't hate him. You are just angry at his lack of getting it done.

  404. Coolhandbane (formally Bob Saget) - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Via Dan Kolko " "he importance of having a bullpen that can deliver shutdown innings late: If the #Nats put up a zero in the 9th, that homer wins it."

  405. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    NatsLady, I agree with your 9:55 post.

  406. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Did Davey put our best pitcher in in the 9 th? No. Did he give the guys the best chance to win in the 9th? No. Did we score enough in the ninth to win the game? Yes. Thanks Davey. I will say every time WERTh homers the game is already lost. So although he is showing heart we need it when it really matters.

  407. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:57 AM

    Blame Storen all you want. This is all on the manager for putting him in for this situation. I know Clippard worked last night, but his head is on straight. Really after Storen's last outing would ANYONE here put him in with the game on the line?

  408. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Ghost, you are right. I don 't know why I am even posting in a game thread….But why can't we have one cleaning inning?

  409. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Unknown – I'm beginning to wonder/think if Abad is getting the HRod treatment…But if Abad goes, that leaves us with only 1 LHP… No good…

  410. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    If we dont tie it Strasburg gets the loss. I explain this to you a couple weeks ago, you seem not to understand official scoring.I did it for about 10 years so even Storen shouldlose he wont lose.

  411. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Lol… I swear Ghost and I are not the same person… Lol…NL – I think DJ uses Storen wrong…

  412. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Davey is not a psychologist. Either the Stanford-grad gets his head together or have him ship out. I thought he was way too glib after blowing the NLDS and I see nothing that shows he was ready for this season….

  413. Ghost Of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    Coolhandbane (formally Bob Saget) said… Via Dan Kolko " "he importance of having a bullpen that can deliver shutdown innings late: If the #Nats put up a zero in the 9th, that homer wins it."That's just plain stupidity by Kolko. Melancon is pitching to Ryan Zimmerman if it's 1-0 and the rewind button ain't working to know the outcome.

  414. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    Thank you Nats 106. Thank you. And people defend Davey. He Stinks. Can this guy Rizzo. NOW!!!!!!

  415. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:00 AM

    I have seen Fredi put Kimbrell in in these situations, down one run, saw him do it at least twice. Both times Barves came back in the 9th and won it.

  416. JayB - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    Bowden that is just the latest example of drew costing nats a game

  417. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    It is discretionary, no?

  418. JaneB - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:01 AM

    I feel awful for Tim Hudson and Young Jr. Grateful we haven't had such an injury this year. We can say we hate these guys, we can say all kinds of stuff about them. But hearing about Hudson and the comments about the ankle were all I needed to remember that these are PEOPLE, and that at any moment something awful can happen to them. And sometimes it does. And "awful" does not, in my estimation, include a jerk umpire with an inconsistent strike zone, or a formerly lights out pitcher losing confidence in themselves, or even being in 4th place. Though I can't say I'll be saying that if we land in 5th place.

  419. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    I didnt see a tag…

  420. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Denard, you are the greatest!

  421. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:02 AM

    Dang just missed. Oh well. Strasburg looked great

  422. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Wow…. Screwed by the blues…

  423. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM

    Thank God that the Braves won! Otherwise, we would have been in fourth in the loss column.

  424. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    Yeah, we lost because of the umpiring….

  425. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:05 AM

    Wow disgraceful umpiring. Guess that guy will get a raise. PLEASE FIRE DAVEY THOUGH. He's jus pathetic.

  426. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    Too bad Stras has to take another loss. He certainly deserved a better outcome-at least a no decision. Manassas, who are you referring to on the scoring? That's pretty basic stuff.

  427. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:07 AM

    The ump made a bad call, but Denard Span cost us the game, the season, and he kicks his dog.I'm sure Vince Coleman would've caught Walker's double.

  428. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:08 AM

    Averaging 6.5 hits/game since All Star game. They need to find 3-4 more hits per game.

  429. Secret wasian man - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Is anybody going to question why drew Storen? Time for Davey to blame Stras.

  430. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    Thank goodness I have to work tomorrow and won't be able to watch the game…. Beginning to understand the definition of insanity

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