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Game 102: Pirates at Nats

Jul 25, 2013, 2:05 PM EDT

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It's been ten days since the 2013 All-Star game and the Nationals are still looking for their first win in the season's second half. Last night we saw them lose their sixth straight game, failing to get any sort of offense going against lefty Francisco Liriano. 
If Liriano was trouble, they may have an even tougher time this afternoon against A.J. Burnett. Burnett has been excellent this season at the age of 36, holding a 3.07 ERA through 17 starts. Back in May he held the Nats to one earned run through seven innings and struck out nine.
The Nationals will have Gio Gonzalez (7-3, 2.89) on the mound who's had a pretty good season himself. Gonzalez also has a win against the Pirates this season, throwing six innings of two-run ball on May 5.
The real question will of course be whether the Nationals can score some runs today, as they have scored more than three runs just twice in their last ten games. They have, however, given Gio solid run support for the most part in his recent starts. Five of Gonzalez' last six outings have seen the Nats score five or more runs, each time taking the win when they hit that mark. Gio has also recorded quality starts in all nine of his outings since the month of May.
Updates to come…

PITTSBURGH PIRATES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 12:35 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500), XM 869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 83 degrees, Wind 14 mph out to CF

NATIONALS (48-53)
LF Bryce Harper
2B Steve Lombardozzi
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
RF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
CF Denard Span
C Kurt Suzuki
LHP Gio Gonzalez

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497 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. MicheleS - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    GYFNG! I will be in wine country for the next week. I will celebrate the Curly Ws out there

  2. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Please Davey, give us Span, Rendon, Zim, ALR, Werth, Harper, Desi, Suzuki. Let's score some runs for Gio today!

  3. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    Need to salvage this game. Gio is the guy to do it. Let's go Nats

  4. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    I forgot it was an early game today… Was wondering why the live blog was up so early…Charlie and Dave and XM will be my friend today!

  5. Oldguy - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    When these guys break out–and they will!–it's going to be one hell of a ride.

  6. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    MicheleS I'm jealous, but don't wait for the curly Ws, just go ahead and uncork.

  7. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    The memories of a regular season loss, for the most part, wreck your mood until the next game.I'm really glad it's an afternoon game today!!Oldguy said… When these guys break out–and they will!–it's going to be one hell of a ride.Amen!! And, gosh, I hope it's soon!!

  8. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Ok, Rizzo has got to make a move and get Peavy or some other quality SP. The Braves have their own problems and can certainly be caught. Not sure why he's been waiting to add pieces to this club (pen arm, another bench bat, decent SP). Don't be shy Mike, pull the trigger!

  9. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    I asked this question at the end of the last blog, but am bringing it over here.Over the last 20 games Anthony Rendon has hit .211 with a .263OBPIs Rendon just in a prolonged slump?Or has the league figured something out about him? Or is there any possibility that he isn't mentally ready for the grueling task of an entire pro season and is wearing down? [I'm not drawing any conclusions, but I think it's a good question].

  10. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Paranoia, Part II– seems like every pitcher is in tip top form against us. No? I know we are bad right now , but every single day…. No cap tipping today! Find a way!

  11. nats guy - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    They have figured Rendon out. He'll need to adjust. He has a beautiful swing and is a smart kid he'll be OK.

  12. nats guy - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    It happens to everybody. Tyler Moore got figured out and so did Espinosa. Espinosa has a hole in his swing bigger thatn the grand canyon and Tyler Moore didn't have enough at bats to figure out what his problem is.

  13. Joe Seamhead - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM

    I still think being reminded every 7th inning that we got rid of Morse is like some kind of a jinx, or a hex, on this team. Dump the song, it's just bad karma!Now, let's everybody go out there and eat some face!

  14. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    At the end of the broadcast signoff, Carp said (or something to that effect) "join us tomorrow to see if Gio can stop the losing streak."Interesting inasmuch as IT'S NOT THE PITCHING. SS did an incredible job last night, but the hitting failed yet again. Gio can pitch his guts out today, but its the hitting that needs to stop the losing streak.Averaging 6.5 hits/game since the break ain't gonna cut it. They've got to find 3-4 more hits in that lineup.BTW: MLB postseason probabilities have the Nats with a 4.1% chance of making the playoffs.

  15. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    - Strasburg, according to "game score" had the best (86) outing of his career.- The Pirates are 16-7 when they strike out 11+ times (wtf?)- Royals just won back-to-back series against the Tigers and Orioles, accomplishing that with a run differential of -6- Chicago had a 6-0 lead, blew it, then won 7-6 in the 12th.- Mike Leake somehow pitched 6 innings allowing 12 hits, but just one run. And he went 3-for-4 with a double, as Reds beat the Dodgers for the 6th time in 7 games (and are glad it's not a best-of-13 series ;-)

  16. nats guy - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    Oldguy,I agree when they break out it will be a hell of a ride. Only problem is that will probably be next year.

  17. Cameron - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Come on boys. Let's fix this now and then take down the Muts this weekend!

  18. alexva - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:52 PM

    don't worry about RendonRendon is the real deal

  19. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:52 PM

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  20. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    Don said…Ok, Rizzo has got to make a move and get PeavySigh. Really? Again?Are you forgetting that the White Sox might want something back for the 7-4 Peavy? Might you suggest what the Nats will give up for him, and if the Sox would seriously take that deal?The other amazing thing about that suggestion is: why do we _have_ to get a starting pitcher when our problem is _hitting_?! So, instead of losing games 2-1, 3-2, and 9-2, we can lose 2-1, 3-2, and 3-2 instead?

  21. Tcostant - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    We need to stand pat. Making a trade now, is like chasing your losings at a casinio. This team will not make the playoff, with or without a new addition.Don't waste the prospect, stand pat, do the best you can and wait until next year…

  22. Unknown - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    We're going to crush the pie-rats today. I love to see the smug pittsburghers suffer. I will be heckling all afternoon

  23. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    RE: PapaJohn's 50% off promo when the Nats score 7+ runs? Never has a promotion cost so little.

  24. natsfan1a - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    And how, Wonk.Have fun uncorking, Michele!A DC Wonk said… The memories of a regular season loss, for the most part, wreck your mood until the next game. I'm really glad it's an afternoon game today!!

  25. ExposedinDC - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Rizzo won't make a move….like he said earlier this week, he doesn't see anybody out there that's a better option, of course he also said Tracy was a quality left handed pinch hitter and and that Davey is currently one of the best managers in the game…..Dude knows his stuff

  26. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    …Dude knows his stuff Yep, sure does! Digging out of two consecutive 100+ loss seasons pretty quickly, earning him Executive of the Year!

  27. Kirbs - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    1-9 in last 10, 2 games out of 4th place…..if moves happen, it should only be for ppl with control in 14. I wonder how this Hudson injury will effect all of this.

  28. hiramhover - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    WonkIt's a pretty narrow view that says you don't do the trade just because it won't fix the problem.That locker wasn't responsible for Mattheus' pitching problems, but he punched it anyway. He wasn't just gonna stand pat and do nothing.

  29. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    well put, hh!

  30. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    So that I don't have to look at the video . . . can someone tell me what happened to Hudson? (All I know is that he broke his ankle and that the video is awful)

  31. natsfan1a - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    He was covering first and looking over his shoulder (at Freeman, I think). The runner stepped on his foot, which was on the base.

  32. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Folks, the problem is pitching. I know that they have not scored, but they should be scoring. Storen cannot be trusted, Abad has ptiched over his head, Det's done for a month, Cole's innings limit approacheth, Haren is a bust. They need another pen arm and a SP and they need those guys now. The bats are here they just have not hit. They have to bank on Harper coming around, and if he does they can win in bunches. Standing pat and hording some random prospects (many of whom are blocked for years to come anyway) is not the play to make. They need to be more bold than that.

  33. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    On a slow grounder, Huddy went to cover first. He put his foot right in the center of the bag and lifted his heel. Eric Young came barreling through and stepped right on his ankle.

  34. JT - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:32 PM

    Gotta get this ship turned around. Lets hope the wind is at the Nats backs. Its no whiff thursday!

  35. Tcostant - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Should be a fun Season Ticket event on Saturday!

  36. hiramhover - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM

    They need another pen arm and a SP and they need those guys nowI would totally agree, if you ended that sentence one word sooner.

  37. SCNatsFan - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    All we need today to win is Gio not make a mistake and give up a run

  38. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Don said… Folks, the problem is pitching.You're going to have a hard time convincing me of that:Nats: 13th in batting, 14th in runs scoredNats: 6th in ERA, 5th in WHIPIf the Nats had scored two runs earlier in the game, Storen wouldn't even have pitched last night. Either Strasburg or Soriano would have pitched the ninth.

  39. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:43 PM

    Finding that I just can't whip up on guys who have had a track record with us and helped this team go to the postseason last season. Just pulling for them and hoping that things turn around. We can watch or not watch. For them it's reputations and careers on the line.

  40. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    This wait until next year stuff is literally loser speak. Punting on third and long is the kind of thing that gets a GM run aout of town. The club has a chance right now. Stras and Gio and J Zim are here and dealing now. Werth has finally arrived. Health has returned to the lineup. The runs are going to come. Rizzo assembled this lot, he had better be a believer in his handywork. He needs to add to the roster.

  41. bowdenball - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:49 PM

    Don-I appreciate your optimism that this season can still be turned around. But if the prospects in question are "random" and would be "blocked for years to come anyway," they're not gonna return any useful pitching. You can't get something for nothing. They either have to deal good prospects like Goodwin or Cole, or they don't get anyone better than they've already got. The White Sox aren't gonna hand us Jake Peavy for Christian Garcia and a half-completed "buy ten surgeries, get one free" card from Dr. Andrews.

  42. Cameron - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Wonk I agree.How could anyone honestly say pitching is THE problem? It is A problem, but pitching should be the least of our worries with how bad this team is hitting.

  43. hiramhover - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    DonLook, I'm a fan. I'm going to think like a fan and root like a fan, whether they have a 95% chance or a 5% chance of making the playoffs. But a GM cannot manage the roster that way.PS – I know "punting" is a kind of recreational boating, but what does you mean, "3d and long"?

  44. A Fly Moses - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM

    Okay, now I'm starting to think Davey's just throwing games. Batting Lombo (it's too depressing to look up, but no part of his slash line is above .300) 2nd? What (for what lineup construction is worth), has been proven to be the most important spot in the order? It's embarrassing.Again, I doubt it would really fix anything, but since Davey seems to care about batting orders, why don't we just go back to Werth/Harp/Zimm/LaRoche/Desmond? Davey gets to keep his beloved R/L/R/L/R splits; you get your two best hitters the most at-bats; and it's not like anyone's ever on base for Werth as it is. I don't see why this is so hard.

  45. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    Don, I'm with you, except—I'm not at all sure "Health has returned to the lineup." I think Harper is still hurt. I think LaRoche has all he can do to get out there and man his base. Seamhead raised the question whether Rendon is wearing down. Span was tired before the All-Star break, though he seems fine now. Desi has that blister and who knows what else. RZimm's shoulder seems better, but he has become a singles hitter (in the last 26 games, 5 doubles, 2 HRs).

  46. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    Plus- as much as we hate it with a passion, the bench players have to get some starts or they will be even worse. Look how Chad Tracy found his stroke with a few starts. Of course, then he sat on his duff and rusted again, so there is that.

  47. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM

    Just reviewing. Has the MLB sent their appology letter for Diaz's call or has Diaz commented himself (he is probably hiding from the media) for the blown call?For you missed it. Was reading the Pirates eqivilant to this sight to see if they understood the call was blown. Walker said he was fussing at Sanchez for goofing off after the Span out, while Ramos was on second. Sanchez said Diaz said you tagged him. Walker said he didnt come close to tagging him.How could Diaz bold face lie to Davey and no one call him on it.I will see how the calls at first go. I am stll convinced Alverez never touched home Monday.

  48. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    Hey… Lombo got the Nats first legit hit last nite so there's that.

  49. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Bowdenball, I hear you. But almost every position player on the club is a long term piece. They built this club to win and to win now and they need to add stuff to it to have a better chance. If the Nats were in a dog-fight for 1st right now, I think that the sentiment would be that Rizzo should go get the player he needs, but in hear the focus is on how the club has done this or that poorly (failing to score mostly, playing bad D, bad baserunning, etc) in the past. They play the games as they come, only the standings matter in terms of the past. So they are in a hole, but the Braves are not world-beaters at all, Hudson just went down, they are not playing that well either. The Nats have bats that everyone (Rizzo and his big baseball brain included) thought would score. The Nats should score, and they WILL score. If the club ends up coming 2 games short of the Division are we going to feel good about not having gone for it by unloading some farmhands or taking on salary? I know I won't. If they don't add a SP, they have little chance to catch the Braves, if they do add a Jake Peavy or Josh Johnson maybe or Kevin Slowey (lots of ways they can play this in terms of rental, guy under control, high upside uy low kind of guy, solid innings eater), then they have a better chance.

  50. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    So, I got this idea from the fangraphs podcast. The bench is really killing us.In the first half==>wRC+ (weighted runs created, average = 100).Your regulars: All above 100 except Span (87, subpar but not hopeless).Your bench – Suzuki 62Bernadina – 47Lombo – 43Tracy – 29Moore – 23Espinosa – 22Looking at the last month (20 or more PAs)Werth – 207Ramos – 155Desi – 104RZimm – 100Span – 94Tracy – 94Suzuki – 93LaRoche – 92Harper – 86Rendon – 70Lombo – 55Bernadina 36

  51. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    So, from the bench killing us, now we have to include very subpar from Harper and Rendon.

  52. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    BTW, if you are out of the area, today's Nats game is the free game on mlb.tv. Get your devices ready!

  53. natsfan1a - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Well played, sir.hiramhover said… PS – I know "punting" is a kind of recreational boating, but what does you mean, "3d and long"?

  54. Get Your Re(n)d On - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Yes, definitely, what Rizzo should be buying now is pitching. But only pitching that's under control beyond this year. No rentals.

  55. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Mick, the Cincinnati Reds won 102 games in 1970, then 79 games in 1971, then 95 games in the strike-shortened 1972 season, returning to the World Series. The Mets won 100 in 1969, then slipped slightly but stayed decent through 1973, returning to the World Series. The Mets seemed much worse in 1970 but their run differential was not that different from the year before, where the Cubs actually had a better Pythagorean number than the Mets did, which was 93 to 92, I think. The Mets were 8 games better than they should have been in 1969, and then I believe had a Pythagorean number of 88 in 1970, but underperformed it that year and finished behind the Pirates.Slippage is a pretty common phenomenon,I actually think the random element in baseball extends past individual seasons. People see them as discrete occurrences but when a team has a common core they often have random variations.

  56. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Wheeler strikes out all three batters but a wild pitch and Buck throwing it away = a run for Atlanta.

  57. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    Rendon needed a day off… He was pressing.. Definitely in a little slump right now…He needs to work on re-adjusting to the league now that folks have tape on him…Lets win this! Go Nats!

  58. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    Hope we hit better than May 3 in Pittsburgh. Burnett shut s down 3-1. Det gave uo 2st inning to McCutcheon and a 2 run dinger to Mercer in about the 5th.

  59. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Harpee solid on the first play.

  60. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

    Nice play, Kid!!!!

  61. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    NL – The free game is just for people outside the area?

  62. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Yes, it's blacked out if you are local, MrsB–very aggravating.

  63. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Usually it is that way on mlb.tv

  64. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Yeah becuz my radio is like a batter behind… Oh well…

  65. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Well that works but 23 pitches to only 5 batters will not allow him to pitch through the 8th. Needs to have a few short innings now.

  66. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Looked like Ron harper's one pitch

  67. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Long inning for Gio… But I will take the goose egg he got…

  68. joemktg - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I'll take it

  69. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Harper's mistake becomes a run

  70. RickH - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Finally, we get a little luck our way.

  71. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Harore is such a lousy base runner — good thing he's wicked lucky. I'll take the result though!

  72. Brandon Wedel - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Wow….How about that trip! :)

  73. Don - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    And I am such a lousy typist.

  74. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Now that is a lead-off hitter and what he does. He gets on base and scores any way he can.

  75. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Uhm… Harper not the smartest move… But we will take the run…

  76. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    RISP 7 FOR 82

  77. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    Gee, look at Lombo, creating offense. ;)

  78. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    are we really playing small ball????

  79. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Um, actually that was the smartest thing that Harper could have done. Anything to get some fire under the guys. Span would still be standing over on 2nd or probably would have gotten thrown out on the bunt, not to mention that Span doesn't take hbp's, not his m.o.You either are willing to do anything to get on base and score, or you are not. Span is unwilling to do anything that smacks of heavy lifting….

  80. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Maybe we get some more breaks. Sometimes you create your own luck. That a way Kid!

  81. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    The Pirates' 3rd baseman thought that Harper was going to run him over and took his eye off the ball. Harper has a very high success rate when he gets "caught" between bases. He knows how to play pickle and I have seen him make that same play several times the last two years….

  82. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    You have to take the opponent out of its comfort zone. Vince Colemand and Jose Reyes do that any time that they get on base. A lead-off hitter who can't do that had better get on base at a very high clip to make up for it.

  83. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Sometimes 235 lbs and a 6.6 60 comes in handy in other places than the gridiron.

  84. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    8 for 83 RISP.Span ran like Harper causong bad throw.

  85. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    See, when Span place like Harper, good things happen. Stop playing afraid, Nats, and just play for the joy of playing and see what happens….

  86. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    What?????

  87. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    They are swinging early against Burnett… We scored again… Nice!

  88. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    8 for 84

  89. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    The Pirates are the worst team that I have ever seen.

  90. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM

    Diaz calls it right.

  91. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    2 for 4 this game. 8 for 85 during bad stretch, still under .100

  92. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Hmmmmmm, maybe they shouldn't have put their bathing trunks on for Miami?

  93. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Maybe today they will be!

  94. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Seen many high school innings like what we saw. 2 running errors that are bailed out by fielding errors.

  95. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    I just realized… we turned the line over in the first inning…Nice….

  96. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    I heard all those little kids chanting- Let's Go Nats!! And I thought that was a cool thing. Maybe they heard it also and it wasn't cynical adults. Kids game, nice day.

  97. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    I though bathing suits were on early.

  98. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    The Nats are so busy trying to play everything by the book. Sometimes you need to just play and force the issue. It is supposed to be fun, not work, and this year, it has been mostly work for them. Last year they played from joy….

  99. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Gio needs to cut the pitch count down too many pitches per batter.

  100. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Marlon Byrd with the big RBI and taking of 2nd base against Atlanta. We could have him and his big bat and he cost the Mets essentially nothing. He has huge OPS+ numbers. Guess Rizzo's attention was diverted elsewhere.

  101. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Well runners forced action twice and it worked. Now lets pitch like normal

  102. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    All 3 pirates hits had 2 strikes.Focus Gio.

  103. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Whats up with our pitchers when we get a lead…Sheesh… Come on Gio.. Throw the nasty!

  104. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    The Mets and the Nats are essentially tied in run differential.

  105. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    Looked like it bent in behind the plate. We will take it.

  106. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Lombo!

  107. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Lombo excellent play.

  108. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Mets put up 4. I am not sure if that is good or not for us as they can pass us this week-end if they want to….

  109. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Or we could win all 4 against the Mets

  110. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    BTW, apparently Tyler Moore has started hitting again in the minors. I am not sure what is going on with him, but maybe AAA curveballs suck or something, but if he has straightened himself out to a semblance of last year mid-summer, he might be a plus again instead of the worst player in the majors, which he was this season so far, depending on how you look at it….

  111. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Harper would be well advised to elevate the balls better.

  112. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Missed it watching the Mets game on Extra Innings. I guess it is still better for the Nats to have the Mets beat the Braves because it at least puts things more in our hands….

  113. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    We are due some bad calls our way and also some cheap hits like that one by Ryan….

  114. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Diaz ,2 for 2 on close plays

  115. Faraz Shaikh - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    btw that was not a dribbler to 1b or 2b by span, in case anyone missed.

  116. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

    MNF – make up call maybe?

  117. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    So Marlon Bryd is looking for a job in February after coming off a PED suspension and the Mets, who have NO outfielders at all in camp offer him a minimum vet contract and an opportunity to play himself into a full time job.Yeah, Rizzo blew that one.

  118. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    A note about tomorrow's pitcher–he has bone spurs in his elbow.mejiahttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/25/jenrry-mejia-will-need-bone-spurs-removed-from-elbow/

  119. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Gio at 47 pitches in the first 2 innings… Ouch… Was hoping he can go 7 today….

  120. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

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  121. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    I love the way that every time that Span gets a hit, someone on here posts, "hey, did you notice Span got a hit or Span hit that one hard?"Yes, we noticed and we were all surprised by it.

  122. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said…Marlon Byrd with the big RBI and taking of 2nd base against Atlanta. We could have him and his big bat and he cost the Mets essentially nothing. He has huge OPS+ numbers. Guess Rizzo's attention was diverted elsewhere.20-20 hindsight?Byrd at age 34 batted .210 last year. That's the player your going to sign?

  123. bowdenball - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said…"Marlon Byrd with the big RBI and taking of 2nd base against Atlanta. We could have him and his big bat and he cost the Mets essentially nothing. He has huge OPS+ numbers. Guess Rizzo's attention was diverted elsewhere."Maybe it was diverted by his .606 OPS in 2012 and his PED suspension.You're basically saying Rizzo screwed up because he doesn't have ESP. NOBODY in baseball saw this year coming from Byrd. Not even the Mets team that signed him- they only gave him a minor league deal.Take it somewhere else, WODL.

  124. Faraz Shaikh - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    well we have to point it out given with all negativity hurled at him.

  125. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Come on Gio….

  126. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Come on Gio this is not advisable.

  127. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    Sometimes Gio gets in a groove later in the game and has some quick innings. I have worried in a few games about how far he would go, but it seems to be a pattern with him to have longer innings at the beginning. Probably a chart somewhere showing pitches per inning for the season.

  128. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Yeah, you have to feel sorry for the Mets getting all that production out of Byrd while Span is offensively not even a replacement player….

  129. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Rizzo could deal Harper for magic beans and you would have somebody on here defending Rizzo: "well, they could have magically transformed Haren's arm and Span's bat…."

  130. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Gio seems to be our main starter who can transform a bad start into a good quality one.

  131. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Lombo times 2

  132. RickH - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    LOMBO!!! Again!

  133. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Gio sure isnt doing it the easy way 2 runners each inning. 3 walks and 3 hits.

  134. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    So McCatty comes to the mound, and Gio strikes the next guy out.Gee I wish I could have been at that meeting!That kind of thing happens a whole lotta times with McCatty.

  135. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Lombo deserves the love for his play today.

  136. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Gio 23,24 and 20 pitches so far.

  137. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    But you know more than anyone, Faraz, that daily results are all but useless in disproving a trend. We'll take it but you get to the point where one says, "Hey, Haren got through an inning without giving up a homer….

  138. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Another Giodini escape! 67 pitches though. Bucs need to return the favor we did for Liriano with a 5 pitching inning.

  139. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    William O. Douglas Loeffler said… Yeah, you have to feel sorry for the MetsWhat are you talking about? The Mets got extremely lucky with a guy that looked like a bum — to the entire league — and that the best deal he could get is a minor league contract. Who's feeling sorry for the Mets for that?Read my words: he batted .210 last year!William O. Douglas Loeffler said… Rizzo could deal Harper for magic beans and you would have somebody on here defending RizzoWhat are you talking about?So, tell us Mr Arm Chair GM — which outfielder who, this year, is batting .210, should the Nats go after and replace Span with?

  140. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    My son just said the same about Lombo and we will take it. I think everyone roots for Lombo, but that doesn't chance the fact that he has been an incredible disappointment this year, but all you have are your today's and tomorrow's ultimately…..

  141. baseballswami - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    MNF– it's going down, though, right?

  142. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    I don't understand swinging at the first pitch. Give Gio a little time to rest. THINK, guys, THINK.

  143. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    If it was a pitch worth hitting, then swing away.

  144. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    I know you're not asking me, but I'd suggest Josh Reddickhitting 21r right now. Plus he and Werth can have a ZZ Top tribute band concert after each game.

  145. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Gio slowed it down enough to keep Lombo from making the play.

  146. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

    DC Wonk, the moral of the story is that there are tons of guys like Span who play outfield with decent speed, but who aren't great hitters. Sometimes they have great years and sometimes they don't. You don't upset the balance of your team by seeking a guy who doesn't fit in with the philosophy which is the Earl Weaver type of team. Span was a terrible fit. Byrd would have been a great fit.

  147. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Again 2 on base. Cant keep doing this.

  148. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    One reason we have all these people who do nothing but defend Span is because they were the same people cheering Rizzo on when he got the guy. They don't want to admit that they were just as wrong as Rizzo was, but since I opposed the deal from the beginning, I have the ability to be honest about it….

  149. bowdenball - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Reddick won't be a free agent, Nats106. He's not even arbitration-eligible yet. Plus everyone expects him to recover form his down year, so he's not exactly the same as Marlon Byrd.I think DC Wonk is asking too much of WODL, though. It's not his job to evaluate slumping veteran major league talent. His job is apparently to ruin game threads of weekday afternoon games most people can't watch on TV.

  150. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Marlon Byrd on base again. The network is showing what a great teammate he is on the Mets and how well he fits in.

  151. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Gio what are you doing? Just blow him away. Dont let the pitcher hit the ball.

  152. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    We ask nothing of you, Bowdenball and get pretty much what we ask…..

  153. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    He was a Nat before wasnt that good here then why would him to be good a second time.

  154. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    You can strike out Marte but not Burnett. Ummmmm.

  155. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Span was a terrible fit. Byrd would have been a great fit. Sorry — I still don't see it. Span's got great range, and he's a lifetime .281 hitter and he's 29.Byrd is 35, coming off a PED suspension, has less range, and there's no telling if this is a fluke year or not (how many other guys have their best OPS of their career at age 35?)If you're saying that Byrd would have been better for the Nats *this year* — well, duh. But 29 other teams didn't think he was worth even a minor league contract.That's what I call 20-20 hindsight.

  156. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    Only 15 pitches that inning

  157. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    I hope Gio didn't use. Seriously. I would prefer not to have any PED user even if they have "served their time." I will be booing Braun every time he steps to the plate next season.

  158. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Byrd was Span-like here and as soon as the Nats got rid of him, he got much better.

  159. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    Thanks Bowdenball. I was more trying to lighten things up (again failing miserably). I didn't know he wasn't arbitration eligible, but his power, speed and beard seems to be the right fit.Too bad James Harden plays basketball and not baseball

  160. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Span was worth a flyer, but the acquisition should have been de-emphasized. He should have been brought in as a guy who needed to establish his credentials. They brought him in as some sort of savior. It was not smart. There are a host of guys like him all over baseball. It takes zero genius to find a Denard Span. The Nats have had many guys more or less exactly like him in the outfield in terms of production and speed since 2006.

  161. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Harper upper cut your swing some please.When you tgrow strikes you tgrow less pitches. Burnett 5 pitches all strikes.

  162. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    You are going to tell me ALL of those first pitches were pitches to hit? All of them in the last two innings? (Gio is excused.)

  163. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Because if they were all pitches to hit then we should have had five hits (Gio is excused). Otherwise you don't give the other pitcher 5 and 6 pitch innings.

  164. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    if a pitch is a first pitch and is perfect, then the player should generally swing away. Perfect pitch is subjective, however.

  165. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Gio can you have an easy inning?

  166. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    At this rate 5 innings and 100+ pitches lines Gio up for the win. Stammen will need to deliver 2 solid innings. Earlier this year the greatest angst we had was the inability to score extra runs after getting on the board early to deliver a knockout blow. It would be nice to change that today as well and make everyone at the game hard times wing eiigible.

  167. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Gio you need to k martin

  168. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Manassas, he heard you

  169. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    Got the result, but man took a lot of pitches.

  170. Ishmael - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    "You don't upset the balance of your team by seeking a guy who doesn't fit in with the philosophy which is the Earl Weaver type of team. Span was a terrible fit. Byrd would have been a great fit."Yes, look how terribly Weaver's Orioles did with Paul Blair in center. Oh, wait a minute. Never mind.

  171. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Barves tied it up on a Freeman HR. Zach Wheeler is not Matt Harvey.

  172. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    Curve so good tgat fastballs tie tgem up when high.

  173. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:07 PM

    Braves come back. It they can win and the Nats can win, we move ahead of the Mets in the loss column….

  174. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Okay, for comparing Denard Span to Paul Blair, you are forever tainted…. That is a shameful thing to even joke about.

  175. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    How in the heck is Burnett only at 52 pitches when they tagged him for like 40 in the first 2 innings????

  176. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

    Plus, check Paul Blair's power totals and get back to me, Ishmael….

  177. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    Lombo is having an awesome day! Good for him… He deserves it…

  178. Nats106 - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    98 pitches. Does Gio go out for the 6th? Weather pleasant, quick inning would work well.

  179. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

    Sounds like soccer field will be on otger side of cobcrete factory, where I like to park.

  180. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    9 for 86 RISP no run that time.

  181. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    2.6 runs average scoring when bases loaded 0 out (or close to that)

  182. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    DP here would be fine if it scores a run….

  183. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    RISP 9 for 88

  184. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    Oops 87

  185. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    David Wright with a triple. Hard to believe that Ryan Zimmerman used to be better than David Wright….

  186. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

    Fredi got ejected by the 3B ump. Wonder what that was about.

  187. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Finally.

  188. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Wow… Jayson and Desi with some dumb at bats…

  189. William O. Douglas Loeffler - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    All I asked for was a double play and instead 2 K's…. Come on Denard.

  190. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Hey, Desi and Jayson, he's been calling that ALL DAY. Adjust! Foul it off.

  191. Ishmael - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

    Blair's career slugging percentage: .382; Span, even with the bad year he's having, .384.Still think they are very similar players. Weak hitters and great defenders.

  192. Manassas Nats' Fan - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Now 9 for 88. That has been a strike all day, just got that call against Werth, so why the complaining.Since the first we are back ti normal.Now 9 for 89

  193. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Bases loaded and we didnt do a damn thing… Terrible, terrible, terrible…

  194. A DC Wonk - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    If we had better pitching we'd have scored that inning. . . . or something like that ;-)

  195. MrsB loves the Nats - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:23 PM

    Did DJ just get tossed?

  196. NatsLady - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Ismael, no idea who Paul Blair was, so looked it up. Looks like a clone of Span. Had Gold Gloves, but hard to judge because you don't know the competition or the voting.

  197. bowdenball - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    MrsB loves the Nats said…"Wow… Jayson and Desi with some dumb at bats…"Both called strike threes were outside. If they'd swung at those pitches, it would have been strike three swinging instead of strike three looking. At least by taking the pitch they gave themselves a chance that the call would go their way. Swinging at those pitches would have been a guaranteed out.

  198. Alphabet Soup Erik - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    I am so sick of listening to that idiot FP tell us that pitches aren't strikes when they are…both of those pitches were on the corner and have been called all game. Get over it. SWING THE BAT!!!

  199. Scott Margenau - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    This is unacceptable.

  200. NatsJack in Florida - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    That's bad on Werth and Desmond. That pitch has been a strike all day for both teams.

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