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Game 140: Nats at Marlins

Sep 6, 2013, 4:10 PM EDT

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While a weekend series in Miami may sound like a piece of cake for the Nationals, don’t go penciling in three wins just yet. For one thing, they’re going up tonight against the probable NL Rookie of the Year in right-hander Jose Fernandez. The 21-year-old has been dominant, leading the league in fewest hits allowed per nine innings (6.0) and most strikeouts notched per nine innings (9.8).

For another thing, Dan Haren takes the mound tonight for the Nationals, and he’s been quite unpredictable of late. After going 4-0 with a 1.32 ERA over a five-start stretch, Haren has been hit hard his last two times out, including a 2 2/3-inning nightmare last weekend against the Mets.

The good news: Bryce Harper is back in the Nationals’ lineup after sitting out Wednesday’s game in Philly with a sore left hip. Perhaps 48 consecutive hours off has done the young outfielder good.

I’m not in Miami this weekend, but please continue the conversation as always here…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at MIAMI MARLINS
Where: Marlins Park
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: WJFK (106.7 FM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 183
Weather: Indoors

NATIONALS (71-68)
CF Denard Span CF Corey Brown
3B Ryan Zimmerman
LF Bryce Harper
RF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
1B Adam LaRoche
C Wilson Ramos
2B Steve Lombardozzi
RHP Dan Haren

MARLINS (52-86)
LF Chris Coghlan
2B Donovan Solano
CF Christian Yelich
RF Giancarlo Stanton
1B Logan Morrison
3B Placido Polanco
SS Adeiny Hechavarria
C Jeff Mathis
RHP Jose Fernandez

UMPIRES
TBA

144 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. umpiressuk - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM

    So what’s going on with Rendon? Has he hit a wall?

    • Hiram Hover - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      I’d like to know too. This makes 3 of last 7 games Lombo has started at 2B instead of Rendon.

      • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        Davey has said that many of the coaches have come up to him and told him that they need to start giving Rendon more days off because he’s never played this much before.

      • Hiram Hover - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM

        Thanks, DP. I hope there’s nothing wrong beyond the grind of a long season–it’s starting to seem like more than just a little extra rest.

        It crossed my mind that they could be showcasing Lombo for an off-season trade, but that would leave them awfully thin on middle IF backups.

  2. Section 222 - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    The Marlins’ lineup actually looks more imposing than the Mets’ did.

    • Steady Eddie - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      Until you actually look at their starters’ batting averages. The Fish’s two leading hitters in that lineup, Coughlin and Yelich, are batting .262 and .288 respectively — and have all of 141 and 163 ABs. Their team BA is the worst in MLB at .231, and that’s after getting 9, 12, and 11 hits off the Cubs in their last three games. (Mets are no great shakes at .242 either, but as long as we’re getting relative here….).

      Actually, once I started looking, I was astonished to see that the two NL teams just ahead of the Nats in BA (now 9th in NL, at .250) were the Reds at .251 and the Braves at .253. Shows what enough though not great hitting will do when you combine it with strong pitching. Braves #1 in NL team ERA at 3.19, Bucs 2d at 3.20, Dodgers 3d at 3.23, Reds 4th at 3.41, Cards 5th at 3.55 — and Nats 6th, but all the way up at 3.73.

      And of course, that’s exactly the degree of difference that we’ve showed against the Braves — 5 losses where we scored 2 or fewer runs (1-3, 2-3, 1-2, 2-3, 1-2), and all of our 4 big wins vs. them were by one or two runs, all but one scoring 2 or 3 runs (2-0, 3-1, 3-2, 8-7).

  3. tcostant - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM

    Did the Marlins have a rain out or something? I remember hearing Mark on the radio about a week ago talking about this strech of games and nothing they would miss Jose Fernandez. What happened???

  4. Section 222 - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    I think they gave him an extra day’s rest so he could have his last few starts at home, and try to draw more than a few thousand fans.

  5. masterfishkeeper - Sep 6, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    Yes. Fernandez has two starts left, and the rest means that he’ll make the starts at home.

    We can hope that either (1) he’s hitting the wall that Strasburg hit last year or (2) the extra rest screws him up. Or maybe both, somehow.

    • Steady Eddie - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      While the only other time we’ve faced Fernandez was the second, dismal loss in that 1-2 series at the Fish right before the ASG, and also had Haren pitching, that hopefully won’t be such a bad precedent on the starting pitching side. Haren actually slightly outpitched Fernandez.
      Fernandez: 6IP, 4H, 1R, 3BB, 4K
      Haren: 6IP, 3H, 0R, 1BB, 7K
      We took a lead on a 4th inning Harper BB, ALR single, Werth SF
      Soriano blew the save and shutout on a 9th inning lead-off tater to Stanton (one place where you might want to walk the leadoff hitter), and Stammen lost it in the 10th on that miserable Tracy throwing error from 3d that Ghost reminded us of yesterday, 2BB, a sac bunt and a groundout by Lucas where we just couldn’t quite turn the DP.

      That and the Phillies series is where we started our nosedive.

      But we did get a man on in all six innings Fernandez pitched, and got two on in three of those innings. One of those many professional AB fail games.

  6. exposedindc - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    Not really going to matter if bad Harendorfer shows up…. Really hoping he keeps his pitches down and in the ball park.

    • Steady Eddie - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      Well, that’s why I said “hopefully”….

      When Haren has been on this year, he’s gotten a lot of groundouts and Ks. If you don’t keep the ball down with enough movement to get grounders and flies rather than line drives in that ballpark, it almost doesn’t matter whether or not it stays in the park with all that real estate to cover in the outfield.

  7. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Haren’s last start really wasn’t that bad. He was just blooped to death. He kept the ball down and nothing was really hit all that hard (maybe one ball).

    Also, Span has been scratched from the lineup for some reason.

    Nationals PR ‏@NationalsPR 3m
    New #Nationals lineup: Brown 8, Zimmerman 5, Harper 7, Werth 9, Desmond 6, LaRoche 3, Ramos 2,
    Lombardozzi 4, Haren 1

  8. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Welcome to the lineup Corey Brown. That is the good news. The bad news is — look who is pitching. Oh, goody.

  9. sjm308 - Sep 6, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Hey everyone – long time between posts because I really hate having to log in which means I have to remember a stupid password and all that other crap. Still great to read Mark though and I will try not to whine (much). I have not read any comments except the few this new format lets you look at since logging in really has not been a great experience.

    Hoping we can be 5 games out of the playoffs by Sunday night but my hopes are not high.

    Thanks to one certain poster who has my email and encouraged me to jump back on the horse and try again.

    Just pitch well, play good defense and be smart on the bases and like always, I will be happy.

    Go Nats!!

    • Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

      sjm308: I’m no computer whiz, but isn’t there a box to ‘stay logged in’? I don’t have to log in every time I want to post.

      • sjm308 - Sep 7, 2013 at 12:16 AM

        I will search for that! thanks

  10. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    I have been struggling with the format also. Feel like an old fogey. Reading, though. Guys may actually hit well- seems like they do poorly against junk ballers and better against consistent pitching. Like Halladay- how could you even bring yourself to swing? They were forced to take those pitches and walks, which are just one base at a time no matter what. Then a good pitch comes in and — what?? Our guy love a good fastball.

  11. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    Julie Alexandria ‏@JulieAlexandria 1m
    Davey says Denard was experiencing tightness in groin; is day to day. Corey Brown to start in CF.

    Ugh, that sucks. Just when he was red-hot.

  12. Ghost of Steve M. - Sep 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Unreal on Denard. Get well soon. If I saw Jose Fernandez starting my groin would tighten up too.

  13. Theophilus T.S. - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    No problem w/ Brown starting. Hernandez/Fernandez whatever-his-name-ez won’t have a book on him to speak of, we can hope that Brown remains hot.

  14. Steady Eddie - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    Umpiring team from hell with Kerwin Danley at the plate and Angel Hernandez at 2d.

    Danley gives a very generous first pitch strike to Fernandez that was both low and outside.

    Long night?

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:26 PM

      Pitching so far eliminating any opportunity to bitch about umping.

      • Steady Eddie - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

        I was “looking” on my phone’s MLB At Bat app at the time.

        Based on Fernandez’s record and our difficulty hitting him last time, I knew we’d need all the help we could get, and it was clear from that first hit we wouldn’t get any.

        A bad — and portentous — omen, that’s all.

  15. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    This is going to be a long night, but not because of the strike zone. Because of the pitcher.

  16. Faraz Shaikh - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    WOW Jose with Marlins and Harvey with Mets. some nice aces grooming in NL East.

  17. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    Bases loaded with Stanton coming up and nobody out. This is disaster.

    • Faraz Shaikh - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM

      disaster averted. only a 2 run single by Mike, not a GS.

  18. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    I figured we would lose this game simply becuz Haren is pitching…

  19. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    Did Haren even bother to warm up?

    His last couple games are back to beginning of the season form

    We cannot afford idiotic pitching.

  20. Dan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Wow. Three minutes in their inning and it’s 2-0 already.

  21. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Dan Haren, the new Danny Espinosa. Haren stinks.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:34 PM

      So bad.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

      I mean, I don’t think I need to say anything anymore about Haren… My feelings were quite known when we signed him and when he racked up 10 damn losses…

  22. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    Oy. Not good. Not good at all. NL East not going to get easier in the future with the pitching that is developing. Dan Haren- yikes.

  23. kirbs3256 - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    Welllll…at least LA is up 2-0 vs Reds.

  24. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    I wish Corey Brown had played Stanton’s ball right the inning would have ended 2-0

  25. paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    not the way we wanted to start the game…guess we got bad Dan, down 3-0 already to the Marlins is just awful but when you have nothing to play for like the fish, they can play loose…they seem to do that well vs. us…reminds me of the Strasburg game already.

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:31 PM

      I would say all season the first inning has been our worse. All starters seem to struggle.

      That tells me there is a systimatic error that needs fixing.

      • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

        MNF, ok but how do you fix it? throw an extra pitch? field an extra ground ball?

        I agree with you but its not like you just throw a switch and everything will change in inning 1…what is the systematic error? mental prep? if so, how the heck do you measure that?

  26. Faraz Shaikh - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:30 PM

    alright I think that’s all I can take for tonight. haren in that humongous park does not sound good, with them making so much contact.

  27. exposremains - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    Should have traded him when he created value for himself. He’ s been awful. Period.

  28. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:35 PM

    We might get no-hit tonight, guys. Fernandez looks even better than usual.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

      I’m not going to be upset when we lose but I will be pumped if we win…

  29. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    So far no one seems to understand the urgancy to win.

    We need to change this.

    • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

      I think they all understand the urgency. It’s not easy to hit 99mph when he’s also throwing that nasty breaking ball and change.

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:42 PM

        Need to be prepared. Run the pitch count up.

        Heren was totally unprepared.

        Granted hard to hit 99 but at this point if you want to make the playoff you do what you have to.

        You cant make excuses.

    • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      they have looked the same way all year.

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:44 PM

        Correct. My main beef has been non urgant play all season.

        I feel urgancy every game. If you are urgent 100% of the time, play with more urgancy than the opponent, one would be way ahead ofvwhere they are now.

  30. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    I like this kid over both Harvey AND Strasburg.

    • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      yep!!

  31. secretwasianman - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM

    Just can’t win with guys like Haren. He needed to be almost perfect and once again. HE SUCKS

  32. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:41 PM

    Try to imagine Strasburg on a freedom boat escaping San Diego.

    • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:45 PM

      maybe a SD waterpark…if he has fins & goggles and some floaties around each arms.

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      Fernandez plays like it is a must win game each and every game.

      None of our starters play with same do or die attitude.

  33. paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    9 up 9 down

  34. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Oh Haren.

  35. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:57 PM

    Batting practice…

  36. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I really hope Dan Haren never pitches another game for the Nats.

  37. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Save the BP… Let Haren go all 9…

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:04 PM

      Reasonable

  38. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Ok Nats. You must get a hit. Really. Losing is one thing, but…..

    • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:02 PM

      We don’t even have a baserunner yet…

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:03 PM

        Nor even close to one.

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:07 PM

        At least Zim hustled almost beat it.

  39. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Come on you need to at least place bat in the area of the pitch. We are striking on pitches, but more than a foot away from the ball.

    I dont think the lack of hitting will matter Haren again pitching with his first half stye instead of his post all star game.

  40. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    That’s one of those plays that you look back on if we get no-hit.

    • Section 222 - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

      swm, can you do your RGIII, RGIII chant. We’ve won two games where you gave up on us and did that.

  41. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    How smart is Dennard Span not to risk his hitting streak against this kid?

  42. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:07 PM

    How smart is Dennard Span not to risk his hitting streak against this kid?

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM

      Denard will fine tomorrow.

  43. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    Lets burn the bullpen.

    Haren should be tortured and pitch 8 innings.

  44. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I’m not understanding why the BP has joined this game…. Fernandez is lights out… This game was lost when Haren started serving gofers….

    Let Haren pitch this whole damn game…. He is useless anyway.

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:19 PM

      Haren wast interested in pitching tonight.

      The Marlins thevworse hitting team in baseball and our pitchers treat them like the 1927 Yankees.

  45. paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    A-really-Bad means davey is throwin in the towel…only remaining issues are:

    1) perfect game
    2) no hitter
    3) shut-out
    4) none of the above

    • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:13 PM

      He may have hurt himself. That will help break up to the no-hit, perfect game bid. Hopefully.

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      5) a victory.

      • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

        6) hope you are right but not the way we are not hitting

  46. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    What a waste of 13 million. At least Edwin Jackson could go deep into games and eat innings. Haren can’t even do that.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

      I mean yeah… Once EJax got thru the first inning, he was good…

      But whatever….

      Rizzo simpler made a mistake with Haren…. And with Hairston too.

      • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

        Hairston isn’t nearly the mistake Haren is. They’re not even remotely comparable.

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

        Our pitchers dont prepare to start the game running.

        I blame Cat

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM

        I, not comparing the 2… I’m saying both of them are mistakes… But if you want to compare, Hairston and Harn have added bare minimum to the Nats…

        Hairston is a weak LF who had, what, 2 good games…

        Haren is a weak pitcher who had what, 4 good games….

        Both were mistakes… But we have Hairston again next year…

  47. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Abad walks Yelich on 4 pitches to get to Stanton. Are you kidding me?

    • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM

      Strategy by Abad.

  48. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    This could be 9-0 real fast.

  49. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Again… We could have had Haren eat these innings… And saved the BP…

  50. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Abad’s strategy worked.

    • paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:29 PM

      MNF, how do you blame it on Cat? do you really think he says take it easy the 1st inning?

      come on, its on the pitchers!

      Cat didn’t suck last year did he?

      • Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM

        Since it happens so often we have problems in first, so it is not just one pitcher so there must be something systematically they prepare to pitch.

        The coach is the one who should figure why so many bad starts.

        That I can blame him.

  51. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    How did Abad get out of that?

  52. secretwasianman - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:24 PM

    Wow it’s not bad enough to lose to one of the worst teams in baseball? You have to get blown out, not be competitive and get no hit. It’s football season. This team ha stunk all season. I said it in May and it never changed. Rizzo is awful. Davey has been even worse. Good riddance. What a bunch of losers.

  53. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Great strategy by the Nats there. Put Fernandez on,then make him stand out there for 15 minutes.

    Risky,but good.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:28 PM

      Did they do that intentionally or unintentionally….

  54. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM

    I hate first pitch swinging…. Yeah yeah with the aggressiveness…. But whatever… I hate first pitch swinging…

  55. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    NO PERFECTO.

  56. Ghost of Steve M. - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    This kid is lights out.

  57. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    This guy has been full out from the beginning- just seems like he may burn himself out. He has never gone nine. Let’s hope he starts to tire. Couple of mistakes and we are good to go.

  58. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:38 PM

    Oh my Zimmerman. That might be the worst throw I’ve seen all year.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      Insult to insult. That was awful.

      • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM

        Even by Ryan’s standards that was awful. Usually he throws high and airmails or throws towards home plate like FP said. That…that was just awful.

  59. breakbad1 - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:43 PM

    We now return you to the Mediocrity And Sadness Network.

  60. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Lol Walters breaks it up.

  61. Ghost of Steve M. - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Come on Zach!

  62. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Oh my, oh my, oh my. Tuning in and out because of some family obligations. Now 5-0? And Mr. Stanton only drove in two of those? Also appears several early season predictions that this year’s Nats would be no-hit could come true. I guess that’s one way to lock up ROY honors.

  63. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    I still dont get the blowing the bull pen. But at least it is the lesser pitchers.

    Zack Walters figured out Fernandez.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:47 PM

      So we have wasted Abad, Davis and now Cedeno tonight… For what and why is my question… Should have let Haren go 6/7 and eat the innings..

  64. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    And Welcome to the Show Zach.

  65. Section 222 - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:47 PM

    swm, can you do your RGIII, RGIII chant? We’ve won two games where you gave up on us and did that.

  66. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    And Mattheus is next. Get out your fire extinguishers.

  67. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Come on! The Fish have a 5 run lead and actually DARE to add on??!!

  68. Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    This game was over in the first inning, sad to say…

    Let Matheus finish this game… Don’t use another arm…

  69. natsjackinfl - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Time to watch the UCF-FIU football game.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Sep 6, 2013 at 8:58 PM

      I’m waiting for the Dawgs and Gamecocks game tomorrow…

  70. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    The Marlins are playing with lots of energy. Even with their record. Not feeling sorry for themselves. There is a lesson in there. I must say that I enjoy watching both of the Solano brothers play.

    • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:04 PM

      Teams look like they’re playing with energy when they win. I doubt the Marlins showed a lot of energy during their 86 losses.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:09 PM

      They’re young (mostly) and have something to prove. Why not having a starting line-up tomorrow that includes Messrs Roark (1), Solano (2), Moore (3), Lombardozzi (4), Rendon (5), Walters (6), and Brown, Kobernus, and Perez (7-9)? Let the young ‘uns have a shot?

      • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:14 PM

        Because this isn’t Syracuse. I realize playoffs are not going to happen, but I don’t think you should start playing the young guys until you’re officially eliminated. The Marlins have lost almost 90 games. It’s not like they’re going out there and lighting the world on fire.

  71. Manassas Nats Fan - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:05 PM

    Bullpen usage makes no sense.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM

      Not sure what Nats are supposed to ‘saving’ their bullpen for.

  72. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    DP @ 9:14 p.m.,

    I know, of course. It’s just so frustrating having been given a glimmer — just a glimmer, nothing more — of hope.

  73. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Well Mattheus didn’t look atrocious at least.

  74. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Except that in this case the young guys are not really going to give you much of a drop off. Maybe even an upgrade. Especially with Tyler Moore. Sure, there is a chance that the opposing team gets one extra base runner on a play that ALR would have gotten that Tyler doesn’t . But there are at least four at bats every game that will have a sure impact. Jayson has been consistent, Denard lately, but I don’t see that playing other guys is a sure loss.

    • David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:27 PM

      I’m fine with giving Tyler Moore consistent playing time because I think he’s part of the team’s plans next year. I’m talking about guys like Eury Perez and Zach Walters who have no shot of making the team next year. I don’t want them in games until we’re officially eliminated. I hate conceding anything and putting them in is conceding.

  75. Baseballswami - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    It’s not always conceding. Look at Walters tonight!! Seems like the callups are contributing capably. Not like all our starters are tearing it up. Sometimes the guy with something to prove plays way up. Pitchers don’t know them. Look at the fall Espi had a couple of years ago. They still care and are raring to go.

  76. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    Krol has come crushing back to Earth in a big way.

  77. NatsLady - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    With regard to the first innings–if the pitcher warms up too much, that chops off maybe an inning of his outing. Especially with a guy like Haren, who doesn’t have that many innings in him to begin with, and who doesn’t cope well with the heat (not that it was hot today, but that was mentioned).

  78. paul brandt - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    its over boys & girls…

    play the kids & see what you got consistently over the remaining games…there are jobs to be had on this nats line-up.

  79. Hiram Hover - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    So much for our improved, surge-tastic line up. Ouch.

  80. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    If this is in May, I’m not that upset at this loss. It’s not like it was some scrub owning us. Fernandez has shut out the best lineups in the league. He’s gone 10 consecutive starts giving up 2 runs or less. These games happen.

    The problem is that we don’t have time for these types of games at this point in the year. It’s pretty much over.

  81. Hiram Hover - Sep 6, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    DP

    Unfortunately, we now have plenty of time for these losses.

  82. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Given 27 outs, the Nats recorded two hits.

    The Marlins recorded three hits before making their first out.

  83. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Some sobering numbers: to get to 90 wins, the Nationals would have to go 19-3. To get to 88 wins, they’d have to go 17-5. Even to get to 85 wins, they’d need to go 14-8. I’d guess they finish around 84-85 wins.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Sep 6, 2013 at 11:27 PM

      If they can maintain their season-long ability to play about 3 games above their Pythagorean projection, they’ll finish 83-79 or 82-80.

  84. David Proctor - Sep 6, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    What do you guys think about Hunter Pence? He’s had a good year, he’s been pretty consistent in his career. He’s 30, so not terribly old. He’s a free agent this year. I’m a Span fan, but it’s an intriguing option.

  85. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM

    I don’t know about signing him, but Mr. Pence just got a solo homer late in the Giants-Diamondbacks game. More significantly, however, the Giants pitcher — someone I have never, ever heard of — will be taking a perfect game into the 9th.

  86. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 7, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Strike out for out number one in the 9th.

  87. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 7, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Gerardo Parra grounds out for the second out.

  88. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 7, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    And there it goes. Single by Eric Chavez (that Mr. Pence couldn’t quite get).

Archives

NL EAST STANDINGS

W L GB
WASHINGTON 77 56 --
ATLANTA 72 65 6.0
MIAMI 68 69 11.0
NEW YORK 64 73 14.0
PHILADELPHIA 62 74 15.5
Through Sunday's games

UPCOMING SCHEDULE
MON: Nats at Dodgers, 8:10 p.m.
TUE: Nats at Dodgers, 10:10 p.m.
WED: Nats at Dodgers, 3:10 p.m.
THU: OFF
FRI: Phillies at Nats, 7:05 p.m.
SAT: Phillies at Nats, 4:05 p.m.
SUN: Phillies at Nats, 1:35 p.m.
Full season schedule

Mark joins Rob Carlin and Joe Orsulak every Thursday at 4 p.m. on Comcast SportsNet for a half-hour show on the Nats, Orioles and rest of MLB. Re-airs Thursdays at 11:30 p.m., Saturdays at 9 a.m. and Sundays at 11:30 a.m.

ON THE RADIO

As ESPN-980 AM's Nats Insider, Mark makes daily appearances on the station's various shows. Here's the 2014 schedule (subject to change)...

MON: 12:45 p.m.
TUE: 2:30 p.m.
WED: 4:30 p.m.
THU: 2:30 p.m.
FRI: 1:30 p.m., 5:30 p.m.
SAT: 10:30 a.m.

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