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Wilson Ramos has broken hamate bone, will miss 4-5 weeks

Apr 2, 2014, 12:17 PM EDT

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After an initial X-ray showed no break on Nationals catcher Wilson Ramos’ hand, a second opinion has revealed a fracture in his left hamate bone. Ramos will now undergo surgery and miss 4-5 weeks.

Manager Matt Williams made the announcement Wednesday in a radio interview on 106.7 The Fan. The story was first reported on Monday by Venezuelan TV host Marfa Mata and The Washington Post.

Ramos will now head to the disabled list as Sandy Leon has been called up from Double-A Harrisburg. He will serve as the backup to Jose Lobaton who will start in Ramos’ absence.

Ramos hurt his hand on a foul tip in the bottom of the sixth inning of the team’s season opener on Monday and left the game after feeling pain on a swing in the top of the seventh. Williams told reporters after the game that Ramos’ X-rays showed no fracture, but that he would see the team’s hand specialist in Washington the following day. It was then they discovered the broken hamate bone.

Mark Zuckerman is in New York and will have more on this story once Williams addresses media before the Nationals game against the Mets.

More on this story as it develops…

  1. philipd763 - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Lordy, he’s headed down the same road as Ryan Zimmerman and Nick Johnson. Even when he comes back, his power, which is his strength, will be sapped! I hate to say it but Wilson just had too many injuries to be counted on as the Nats catcher of the future. Shades of Jesus Flores!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:05 PM

      Ramos isn’t a wristy guy where he relies on jerking balls out. It’s also his bottom hand.

      I’m thinking he will be fine in the power department.

      • therealjohnc - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:23 PM

        I can’t tell if you’re satirizing the alarmists or are sincerely one of htem, but I would point out that Zimmerman’s power is just fine, thanks. The hamate bone does tend to diminish power for a while – Zimmerman’s surgery came after a 2007 where Zimmerman hit 24 HRs. His power fell to 14 HRs in 2008, largely attributed to recovery from the surgery, but rebounded strongly with a career-best (so far) 33 HRs in 2009. Since then his power has essentially coasted along at his normal 25 HRs per season.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:30 PM

        I’m on the road. What hand was RZims hamate injury on?

      • Faraz Shaikh - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:15 PM

        left

      • janebeard - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:18 PM

        Ghost, Zimmerman had the hamate bone from his left wrist excised.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM

        Jane, thanks. Danny was a switch hitter and it affected him more. Do you know the approximate date of RZim’s hamate surgery.

      • Faraz Shaikh - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        2007-11-06

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM

        Each player reacts differently to injury recovery. RZim had more time to recover from his hamate surgery but his power was almost identical to 2006 at HRs at a 3.2% pace vs. 3.01% after hamate surgery. Bottom-hand I believe is easier to recover from but of course we will see with Ramos.

  2. natsfan1a - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Le. Sigh. Poor Wilson.

  3. philipd763 - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    In their news release, the Washington Post reported he would be out 4-8 weeks.

    • Danny - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:28 PM

      Matt Willliams said 4-5. I trust him.

    • Hiram Hover - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:02 PM

      Ah, jeez. I hope for a speedy recovery–it will be nice to have Ramos back, and nice to avoid the debates that will ensue if he’s out longer: “but …but … Williams said 4-5 weeks on the radio. Was he lying to us? Was the medical staff lying to him, or are the really just that incompetent?!”

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM

      45 days +/- 15 days is normal.

  4. Eric - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    On a happier note, it looks like the forecast for Friday is firming up and anticipating that the rain may well start *after* the home opener.

    • wearenationals - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:03 PM

      Glad to know we don’t have to carry rain ponchos to Nats Park on Opening Day, but the late Friday rain dampens my kids’ Opening Day little league games on Saturday AM.

  5. sjberke - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    So now it’s official…yesterday , on the MLB Trade Rumors website chat, one of the chatters was speculating about the Nats trading a bullpen guy for one of the Yankees spare catchers, Austin Romine or J.R. Murphy. The moderator said that was possible, but if Ramos was only going to be out a month or so (which it looks like now), Lobaton could hold the fort that long,

    • tcostant - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:18 PM

      I don’t think they need to do this. it’s a month or two, not a season…

  6. micksback1 - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    not too bad, not many Johnny Bench’s or Bill Freehan’s anymore. I hope Ramos can get over the injury bug one day.

  7. adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM

    Wonk’s Wednesday’s Tidbits

    In 130 big league, left-handed plate appearances in 2013, Espinosa walked only three times.

    Marlins are 2-0. (And Giancarlo Stanton stole third.)

    As noted here the other day: the new lead off hitter for the Reds, Billy Hamilton, went 0-4 with 4 K’s. He ain’t Shin-Soo Choo!

    Astros over Yankees on opening day. I just love hearing that. Even without noting that the ‘Stros have the lowest payroll in baseball (and the Yankees have the highest, but that’s always the case, right?)

    Justin Smoak already has two 3+ RBI games

    Oakland’s rainout was the first since 1998.

    In a game where Verlander (8.5 K/9), Joe Nathan (9.6), and Al Alburquerque (13.2) all pitched, Tigers pitching struck out only two batters.

    All five teams in the NL Central played Monday, and combined they scored only four runs. But won three of them.

    Astros over Yankees on opening day. (Did I mention that I just love hearing that?).

    • Danny - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM

      Just a clarification, actually Dodgers have the highest payroll this year.

      • adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:23 PM

        Well I’ll be! You’re right! Dodgers had the second highest in 2013, but highest in 2014.

  8. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    This is Desi on Espinosa in the quote below. It should calm any fears people had of Espi as a teammate. The effect MW has had on Espi paid dividends in the real Game 1. Lots more games to play but the short stroke and approach made Espi a different man at the plate.

    As I have said numerous times if he can get this power hitter mentality out of his mind he can do good things. There you saw it in one shining example of what Espi can be and the roles each player has if they play within themself.

    “Whatever is fueling his fire right now, I love it,” shortstop Ian Desmond said Monday. “I love where he’s at. In the clubhouse, he’s great. On the bench, he was great today. It’s not going to be an easy road for him, but it looks like he’s up for the challenge.”

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        I sincerely hope Danny realizes what he just accomplished. It’s the basics of contact hitter 401 (Senior Level) and some want to give him a parade for accomplishing a good walk. His teammates are all rallying around him and the Baseball Gods took care of him making the 1st pitch which he swung at that went foul. These short to contact at-bats should be a standard where we don’t need to get all excited when a player does a part of his job that I would expect as the potential last out. Baseball Gods indeed. Re-watch the 8 pitch AB. Pitch 8 was almost too close to take in a 3-2 count. I’ve seen guys punched out for less

      • Steady Eddie - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:37 PM

        It was a highly professional atbat where your typical replacement player would have made the final out.

        Pitch 8 was indeed just a hair low but Danny’s take showed good observational skills and an eye and the discipline to apply them. Welke had been very erratic on inside and outside corner calls but he had been pretty consistent in not giving the low strike, and even sometimes calling balls (against both Mets and Nats) on what were really strikes in the lower part of the zone.

        Come to think of it, not all that dissimilar to Alfonso Marquez’s strike zone in Game 5, where he called balls on what were clearly two strikes by Storen — which enabled Molina and Freese to do what Danny did here, which is lay off pitches a hair below the zone for ball four. (Note that I am NOT trying to compare Danny to either of those two, simply that the act of applying close observation to an ump’s strike zone on a given day was similar.)

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        Steady Eddie, that’s exactly what I had flashbacks to Storen in Game 5. d’Arnaud with a poor frame on pitch 8. That was a pitcher’s pitch on 3-2 that most batters swing and miss or pound into the ground or you get the K call if they take it. By the Pitch F/X it was definitely a ball and if this becomes an AB that is a turning point for the better in Danny’s career then it’s big in scope.

        If Danny hits a HR and goes back to a long swing that would be a reversal of fortune.

      • Hiram Hover - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:04 PM

        That was a good AB, but I really wish folks would get away from praising a “whole new Danny” or denouncing a “return to the bad old Danny” with every AB.

        We saw folks rush to one extreme last week. Now it’s the opposite. Neither is really correct. What we need to look for is consistency of effort over the long term.

      • Eric - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:47 PM

        For the record, I won’t be convinced that Espi’s new approach will stick until he’s kept it up well into the season, like, maybe the ASB. But, I do think think this was a pretty huge statement that he’s taking it seriously and committed to making it stick.

        I think the article does a nice job of illustrating that he’s really come around to see what he needs to do (alluding to him “ranting” against the Nats for the misdiagnosis being the alternative tack). That’s mostly why I like it.

        I also think we would’ve been celebrating that outcome no matter who was at the plate. Others may not have generated so much “controversy” about whether the celebration was warranted, but can you imagine if the game had ended right there? That would’ve stung, and badly. No matter who was up at that time, the walk was a huge boost. I was pleased to note that the Post, like me a few days ago, used the word “fulcrum” ;) .

        Seriously. Take Espi out of the equation and leave all other things the same: without that walk, Clippard would be getting ripped a new one and the Ramos situation would have had absolutely no antidote in the immediate term. Etc. I, for one, am very glad someone for that walk, regardless of who drew it.

    • natszee - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:08 PM

      Last year at spring training, Danny dusted off my 10 year old who waited and politely asked “Mr. Espinosa” for his autograph. Danny looked at him and turned away. My son was more surprised than hurt but nick named him “Danny Espino no” after that.

      This year, Danny cut the autograph line short because “he had to put his stuff away”. He did however, return a short while later and signed my boy’s ball and his cousin’s as well. I told my son that he Had to loose the “Danny No-No” stuff and he thanked “Mr. Espinosa” …. Next day, Danny hit two HR’s!

      I would say his approach has improved dramatically. We (my boy and I) wish for him much luck and success.

      As for the catching situation, I love Wilson (my boy adores him as he is a little league catcher) but the Nats need more depth. I hear what is being said about Lobaton but I was not impressed by him in Florida. I hope I am wrong. As pointed out to me, “who you gonna get” … Wish I had a wise answer but, as we say, “in Rizzo we trust”.

      Wilson, get well soon …. Jose, please prove me wrong!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        natszee, people can change. Good story and hopefully Espi learned some valuable life lessons and sounds like your son did too.

  9. tcostant - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Marfa Mata is my new favorite reporter:

    https://plus.google.com/107025733203784564581#107025733203784564581/posts

  10. iconicwoodencap - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Hey Everyone. I’ve been googling Hamate bone/MLB/Surgery/Recovery a bit and found an article that makes this seem less dire. Of course you can find less happy outcomes, but there seems to be a general consensus.

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-06-01/sports/bal-baseball-players-have-had-mixed-results-following-hamate-bone-surgery-20120601_1_hamate-bone-wrist-surgery

    Fingers crossed. I hope this makes all the Nats rally and work even harder.

  11. Danny - Apr 2, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    How’s about the Brewers get some runs off Aaron Harang of all people.

    • adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:24 PM

      Harang’s allowed no hits in 4 IP. Garza’s allowed no hits after 5 IP!

      • adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM

        double no-hitter going after five innings . . .

      • adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM

        and, have to add:

        BJ Upton this season so far: 10 AB, 0 hits, 6 K’s.

      • adcwonk - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:46 PM

        double no-hitter going after six innings . . .

      • RPrecupjr - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM

        Now thru 6 complete, no hits and one walk for each team

      • Steady Eddie - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        And only one BB apiece given up, that close to a duo-perfecto.

      • Steady Eddie - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:50 PM

        Ulp, RPrecipjr, one virtual drink tab going up.

      • tcostant - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM

        Free pizza from MLB if there a no hitter.

      • tcostant - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

        Pizza link:

        http://mlb.mlb.com/sponsors/dominos/dominono/index.jsp

  12. Steady Eddie - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Oy, and ZI tune in on my phone just in time to see Chris Johnson break it up for the Barves with a dinger. Ugh.

  13. deelizzle - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    Most ironic thing? This injury is apparently called “Wilson’s Wrist” according to Wikipedia:
    “It is also a common injury in baseball players. Several professional baseball players have had the bone removed during the course of their careers.[3][4][5][6][7] This condition has been called “Wilson’s Wrist”.[8]“

    • Eric - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:50 PM

      I noticed that yesterday…either some joker edited the entry in light of Ramos’ pending diagnosis, or Ramos is one of the lucky few (if not the first) to stumble into an injury already bearing their name.

  14. Danny - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    1-0 Braves.. 5/6 runs this year been via HR. Probably lead the majors in Ks.

  15. NatsLady - Apr 2, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Just got home for about 1/2 hour & checked Mark’s blog. So, Harang’s terrible? He’s got a no hitter going. Oh, well…

    I have my Gio shirt on, so—GO GIO.

    Clip will be chatting on the fan cave at 4:30. Ask him a bunch of stuff, I will be working. :(

    chatting cage with Clip

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM

      No-no no more for Harang.

    • jd - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:14 PM

      Harang is still terrible today’s game notwithstanding.

  16. NatsLady - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    On my phone watching the game they keep showing Zim’s walk=off HR in the first game of 2008. (He had a few pounds around his tummy, methinks.). ;)

  17. Danny - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    Braves are probably going to win with 1 hit. Thanks Brew!

  18. janebeard - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:23 PM

    May the Brewers hold on through the 9th!

  19. janebeard - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    MY BAD! I saw the score to the wrong game. May the Brewers COME BACK and dust the Braves!

  20. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    Rendon in the #2 and Harper in the #5

    • natsjackinfl - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM

      The one I saw had Harper 6th with Laroche 4th and Zimmerman 5th.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 2, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        Yah, I corrected myself. Couldn’t count the first time reading the lineup.

  21. letswin3 - Apr 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    I’m certainly no expert in the field of good swings, but in the few times I’ve seen Lobaton hit, he’s looked like a guy with both a swing and a plan. Let’s hope so. And those who think we could give up someone from our BP for one of the Yankees surplus catchers ….. forget it, I love our pen right now.

  22. rabbit433 - Apr 2, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    They should get a new X-ray machine.

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