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Game 7: Marlins at Nats

Apr 8, 2014, 3:23 PM EDT

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Some four hours before tonight’s scheduled first pitch, Ryan Zimmerman was out on the field, making sidearm throws across the diamond from third base to first base. He then huddled up with Matt Williams, Nationals coaches and head athletic trainer Lee Kuntz for several minutes before heading back down the dugout tunnel. The verdict: Zimmerman, who was pulled from Saturday night’s game after an abysmal throw and complaints of a sore shoulder, is not in the lineup for tonight’s series opener against the Marlins.

It’ll be Anthony Rendon again at third base, with Danny Espinosa at second base. Bryce Harper, who also got Sunday off to ease his mind after a 3-for-21 start to the season, is back in left field and batting second against Miami right-hander Henderson Alvarez.

Gio Gonzalez makes his second start of the season, looking to continue what he did in New York on Wednesday. He has enjoyed plenty of success against his hometown Miami club throughout his career, boasting a 4-2 record and 1.76 ERA in six starts.

Updates to come, so please check back…

MIAMI MARLINS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where:
 Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, XM 184, MLB.com
Weather: Clear, 61 degrees, Wind 11 mph LF to RF

NATIONALS
CF Denard Span
LF Bryce Harper
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
SS Ian Desmond
3B Anthony Rendon
2B Danny Espinosa
C Jose Lobaton
LHP Gio Gonzalez

MARLINS
SS Adeiny Hechavarria
2B Jeff Baker
RF Giancarlo Stanton
3B Casey McGehee
1B Garrett Jones
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
CF Marcell Ozuna
LF Reed Johnson
RHP Henderson Alvarez

UMPIRES
HP Jeff Kellogg (cc)
1B Dan Bellino
2B D.J. Reyburn
3B Toby Basner

7:08 p.m. — And we underway on a chilly night on South Capitol. Combine a Tuesday night in April with the Marlins, and you’re going to get a good idea tonight what the Nats’ season ticket base is. This will probably be the smallest crowd of the year, I’d guess.

7:14 p.m. — A 1-out walk from Gio Gonzalez to Jeff Baker, but otherwise a solid top of the first for the lefty. Hey, he retired Giancarlo Stanton. That’s a major win in my book. Bottom of the first upcoming.

7:22 p.m. — Some 2-out thunder from the Nats in the bottom of the first. After Denard Span and Bryce Harper each grounded out to second (Harper is now 3-for-22 on the young season), Jayson Werth drilled a double to the gap in left-center and Adam LaRoche followed with an RBI, opposite-field single to left. Just like that, the Nats take a 1-0 lead after one.

7:34 p.m. — The Nats are employing a lot of shifts under Matt Williams and new defensive guru Mark Weidemaier, but they don’t always work. Like when Garrett Jones, seeing a completely open left side of the infield, simply drops a bunt down the third base line and gives himself the easiest single in the world. Add another walk, and Gio found himself in a jam in the top of the second. But he battled through it, getting Reed Johnson to line out to center and Henderson Alvarez to fly out to right. So, no harm done. Still 1-0 Nats heading to the bottom of the second.

7:56 p.m. — The good news: Gio has completed three scoreless innings. The bad news: He’s already thrown a whopping 59 pitches, thanks to three singles, two walks and a bunch of deep counts. He’s going to have to get that under control ASAP if he wants to make it through at least six innings tonight. Still 1-0 Nats.

8:20 p.m. — Alvarez, meanwhile, has settled into a nice groove since that first inning. He has allowed only Danny Espinosa’s bunt single since then and just struck out Anthony Rendon to end the fourth, with the Nats still leading 1-0.

8:42 p.m. — Make it six scoreless innings for Gio, who has retired 10 in a row. His pitch count is up to 101, but there’s no stirring in the Nats bullpen just yet. So he may be back out for more. Still 1-0.

9:05 p.m. — Now THERE’S the kind of aggressive baserunning Matt Williams is looking for. With two outs and runners on the corners, Alvarez threw a pitch in the dirt that scooted just a ways out of Jarrod Saltalamacchia’s reach. LaRoche took off from first base, drawing a throw, which prompted Harper (who finally singled after an 0-for-8 drought) to bolt for home. The Marlins would’ve had LaRoche at second, but Jeff Baker couldn’t hang onto the ball and make the tag, so that allowed Harper to score and make this is a 2-0 game. Moments later, Rendon poked a 2-out RBI single to center, knocking Alvarez from the game and extending the lead to 3-0 after six. Here’s Jerry Blevins out of the pen in relief of Gonzalez.

9:23 p.m. — Whoa, Anthony Rendon with a positively Zimmermanesque play to help keep the Marlins from scoring in the top of the seventh. With runners on first and second, Rendon came charging in to scoop Reed Johnson’s bunt barehanded, then fired a perfect strike to LaRoche at first. If he throws that ball away, at least one run scores. Instead, he gave Drew Storen a chance to pitch out of the jam, which he did. So it remains 3-0 at the stretch.

9:39 p.m. — A 1-2-3 eighth from Tyler Clippard, who struck out both Baker and Stanton. The Nats have held Giancarlo to 1-for-4 with a two-out, bases-empty single tonight. That’s a huge win from their perspective. Still 3-0 heading to the bottom of the eighth as Rafael Soriano limbers up.

9:56 p.m. — Have a night, Anthony Rendon. Another clutch hit for the kid, this time a 2-run double. It’s 5-0, and now Soriano has taken a seat, with Aaron Barrett set to pitch the ninth. Soriano has a 62-games-finished clause in his contract that automatically vests his 2015 option. Not looking too good at the moment for him.

10:06 p.m. — That’s your ballgame. Barrett locks down a 5-0 Nats victory to open this series. They’re 5-2 on the season now.

223 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. bowdenball - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    I like everything I’m hearing about Zimmerman- the sidearm experimentation, the willingness to move him to 1B and sit LaRoche against lefties, giving him a rest today. Obviously it would be better if he played like Brooks Robinson over there, but as far as playing the cards they’re dealt the Nats seem to be doing and saying all the right things so far. No stubborn insistence that everything is fine and no knee-jerk overreaction either.

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

      +1

      I do think last year we just weren’t able to be as flexible at the start of the season, both due to Rendon’s lack of experience at 2B and, and, iirc, the timing of Rendon’s call ups was also sensitive from a team-control standpoint. I could be wrong though.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

        Like I said this morning someone along the way tried to change his motion on throws and that exacerbated the situation and even though he never got mustard on those throws they were more accurate and worked better. They were never pretty and he won’t win beauty points for it but it’s about getting outs! Now so much of this is in his head that it’s a total SNAFU.

        Glad they are working on a solution. Need his bat in the lineup.

    • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      I might also add that — while ridiculously early in the season of course — it sure looks like being patient with Espi, and not shipping him off for a bag of balls (which a number of folks wanted last year) is paying off in a big way.

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

        That remains to be seen. I’m certainly not convinced yet that Espi has turned things around. And if he hasn’t, we are in a world of hurt having to play him every day until Zim returns.

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        Of course. But, as a temporary maneuver, if Espi continues to swing well (and his BABIP reverts to average), it’s a darn nice fielding infield we have today, and at least we have somebody who might be capable at the plate — although of course he’s no RZ.

      • letswin3 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:39 PM

        Old dog, new tricks? Danny is gonna have to prove himself to me over longer than a few at bats to start off a season. Guys that lead entire leagues in K’s like to swing big and hope …. but, so far so good.

  2. unterp - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    Looking for a dinger from Espinosa…Go Nats…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:47 PM

      I just want doubles. Any hits are a bonus ;)

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

        I’ll take singles and walks, actually. And no Ks swinging for the fences.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        222, yep! If this works with Espi any fallout with RZim is minimized.

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

        Well, I wouldn’t say that. No way that even a rejuvenated Espi will match Zim’s production. But at least it won’t be a catastrophe.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        In defense the Nats are better with Rendon/Espi. While offense is weaker no doubt, any bump in defense has to be considered in the equation of +/-.

  3. tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    I kind of like Desi batting 5th and Zimm is a great $100M at bat off the bench when needed…

  4. masterfishkeeper - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:30 PM

    I really don’t understand putting Span and Harper back to back. Makes it so easy for the other team to use a LOOGY. It’s not a big deal, of course, but I’d put Rendon second and move Harper and the rest of the lineup down.

    • letswin3 - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:35 PM

      I agree, and there a 3 lefties in our first 4.

    • bowdenball - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

      I agree with you, it’s weird. On the flip side it is the top two spots in the order, which mean there’s a much greater chance that either they’ll get an extra AB vs the RH starter or that you’ll force the Marlins to go to their pen very early in the first of a 3 game series.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:44 PM

        +1 again to you bowdenball. I think MW is trying to put heavy pressure on Alvarez by stacking lefties.

      • masterfishkeeper - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM

        Alvarez does have pretty big splits, so that may be the reason. The other Marlins starters don’t have such big splits, and Turner even seems to have a reverse split.

      • JW - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

        The Fish look to have three lefties in their bullpen, so it makes less sense to be building the batting order around trying to force them to burn lefty relievers.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

        Except of course you have righties waiting in the wings, including Zim, and Espi and Lobaton are switch hitters.

  5. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    I dare say I like this line up…hopefully Espi’s BABIP starts improving starting tonight. It currently sits at .200.

    I’m just starting to calibrate my understanding of BABIP, and .200 strikes me as being quite low, especially since so many of his outs have been hard line drives, not the dribblers he was hitting so often last year.

    • masterfishkeeper - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:37 PM

      Yes, although Danny’s BABIP started the same way last year. Then he got hurt and . . . You know the rest.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:42 PM

        Yeah, but I don’t recall Espi ever hitting the ball this hard this often, and certainly he was striking out far more often than he has throughout this spring, including ST and the season so far.

        Just hoping for the best, and seeing signs that the hope may not be in vain…including his continued quick swing and ability to take close balls.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM

        masterfishkeeper, Danny was swinging long last year from Opening Day on and you saw the results. If he sticks with a compact contact swing he will find holes. He’s already cut down on K’s and BABIP will work for him.

        Sound mechanics, sound approach!

    • Doc - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:39 PM

      My perception also on Espi’s hitting.

      He’s hitting the ball where it’s pitched, and it has some smack to it.

      Eventually, the ball has to drop for a hit.

    • veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM

      At least he’s no longer a K machine.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        So far…I’m increasingly encouraged that his approach will stick, I just hope he can stick it out until his luck improves on balls in play.

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        Indeed. Bottom line for us arm-chair scouts is this:

        Danny has only one K this year so far (in 12 AB)

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:11 PM

        And, that’s carried over from what was his lowest K% in ST ever.

  6. natsfan1a - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:34 PM

    Go, GIO! Go, NATS!!

  7. veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    Werth, Dez, and Rendon only righties in the lineup today. 5 lefties in a row starting w Espinosa tonight. We’re going to have to hit some lefties back to back, no way around it.

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM

      >no way around it.

      I think that’s MW’s goal…what’s Alvarez ERA against lefties? I tried to figure it out, but don’t see how to pull that up.

    • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM

      Doesn’t Gio hit right handed?

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:31 PM

        He does…but there’s still a lot of lefties bunched together where the rotation turns over and up into the heart of the order.

      • knoxvillenat - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM

        Yes

  8. cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Zim needs to move to first. That was just as true last season as this, but Davey wanted LaRoche back. That was a mistake that led to LaRoche having the worst season in his career at age 33, basically helping push Davey right out the door.

    The do need the only elite capable bat in the lineup. They need him at first base.

    If they need a left-handed bat, convince lufthow to trade Castro and make him the starting catcher. Then he and Ramos can alternate throughout the season allowing both to rest reconstructed knees and other injuries. IMO Jason Castro’s bat would be a superior to LaRoche left-handed bat to add to this lineup. Yeah you start with Tyler Moore, probably Matheus, and other prospects but I see no reason why Houston which is slated to finish in the cellar again would not do a deal with Rizzo.

    • veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM

      Lobaton is a switch hitter.

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM

      “Tyler Moore, probably Matheus, and other prospects but I see no reason why Houston which is slated to finish in the cellar again would not do a deal with Rizzo.”

      That’s not remotely close to what it would take to get Castro. And Luhnow is not an idiot.

      • dhamm6500 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:07 PM

        Yessir. I am guessing the Astros converstion about Castro would begin with Mr.Giolito’s name.

      • sjm308 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM

        Nice try though Peric – You move Zimm to first but you don’t say what we will be doing with LaRoche

        I agree we need Zimms bat in the lineup but lets give it a couple days of rest and see how he feels.
        There are no left handed starters scheduled for the next 6 games so no chance of resting LaRoche just on that reason. I have no issues with LaRoche sitting now and then to give Ryan on the job training but I am not thinkinbg Rizzo adds another catcher after just getting Lobaton this year. If Ramos is slow to return, then your idea might make more sense. Again, good to have you back (I think)

      • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

        The way I see it is that Zim is a potential gold glove at first. With more focus on offense and rest for the shoulder an All Star appearance is possible. Even an MVP season given his potential as an elite hitter.

        Why the heck would you set Zim up for failure by playing him at third base? He’s got two throwing errors against 6 assists so far. If that continues? How is he going to feel about it? Will it affect his offense? Will throwing from third and diving for balls affect his offense as it did in 2012 when he was a hole in the lineup? Then they masked the pain with cortisone and he probably ended up damaging it even more severely? Thus the far more complex and serious surgery post season.

        And then there’s the pitching staff. They’ve just set a record for strikeouts. If you were a pitcher with Zim at third wouldn’t you be trying to get bats to miss instead of pitch-to-contact? You know that’s what Stras is thinking.

        Why continue to set Zim up for failure when he is undoubtedly the best hitter they’ve got? Is LaRoche worth it? No, he definitely IS NOT! Its time to trade the mountain lion hunter and eat some money. They set Werth and Harper up for success. Its way past time to do the same for Zim period end of story, end of argument.

      • natsjackinfl - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

        Precisely. I love these trade proposals always made in a vacuum.

  9. masterfishkeeper - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Ghost, I remember that at the beginning of last season, Danny was hitting the ball well, but right at fielders. You are almost certainly right about his swing, however.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM

      He has to stick with this. It will work. His swing lefty is looking good. A little hitch swinging rightie. Baby steps.

  10. David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    Washington Nationals ‏@Nationals 17s
    Zim:”We’re going to do whatever it takes to make it feel better,&more imp., make me productive…I don’t want to continue to hurt the team.”

  11. stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Lombo 3 for 5, now .333 for season. That gives me a smile.

  12. tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    It’s interesting what Williams is doing with his starting rotation. Be basicly bumped Tanner Roark out of this series, but the reason why is in question. Is it to start Stras every 5th day? Or does he not want Stras facing the Braves if he can avoid it? Does he simply want to rebuilt a little confidence in Stras, by letting him face a team in the Marlins who he he has historicly done well vs. Very interesting…

    • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:09 PM

      Can you elaborate? At Nationals.com, the sortable schedule page, it says that the three starters scheduled for this series are: Gio, Roark, and JZ.

      • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

        Roark is throwing a bullpen today, which means he’s scheduled to start later, not on Wednesday. The beat reporters have caught onto this, though the official site is unchanged.

      • tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:23 PM

        I saw it noted in the link to the Marlins article (http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/07/4043688/miami-marlins-dont-see-series.html) that Chase had in the prior post.

        I agree we don’t know the reason, it could just be that Williams thinks Stras should start every 5th day, but it is interesting which is what I posted.

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:29 PM

        Indeed it is interesting. The plot thickens.

        So, just like MW can’t fill out two line-up cards the same way, we can’t get through the rotation in a regular order, eh?

        Always expect the unexpected . . .

    • sjm308 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

      tcostant – I had heard that SS would also be pitching in this series and while it is early, it kinda makes sense to not have him go back against a team he has already faced when you can keep him on 5 days rest. I am not saying Williams is hiding SS because I am certain he will pitch vs. the Braves but this early, it can’t hurt to keep him on normal rest and also pitch against a team that has not yet seen him.

      • tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:25 PM

        I think what Williams reason is, would be a great question for Mark to ask. Hint hint…

    • bowdenball - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:26 PM

      I don’t see how the move affects Strasburg one way or another. I assume the intention is to use the day off to get ZImmermann back in the #3 spot tomorrow, which might garner him an extra start somewhere down the line maybe pre-ASB or something. Roark will still throw Thursday in the 4 spot, Jordan in the 5 on Friday, and Strasburg Saturday in Atlanta.

      • bowdenball - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM

        Sorry, other way around- Strasburg Friday, Jordan Saturday.

      • bowdenball - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        And now I stand corrected on that as well, according to James Wagner on Twitter.

        Either way I assume the intention is to maximize starts for Zimm, Gio and Stras, rather than to have them duck certain teams. Although Strasburg’s weak Atlanta numbers certainly are a nice bonus and may have played a role.

      • tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        Wrong as I noted above, Roark not pitching in this series. Gio then JZimm and the Stras. Who starts Friday, I don’y know. Read the Miami Herald link I posted above.

  13. breakbad1 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    The day before spring training, we looked like the Spartan cast of 300; now we look like the cast of The Glass Menagerie.

    Things at Nats Park have a fragile, uneasy feel. We are uncertain who will play which positions. Physical injuries manifest themselves in mental ways, and mental issues manifest themselves in diminished physical performances–or staying out of the lineup for “mental health days” in the sixth game of the season.

    The focus seems less on storming the gates and winning a championship, than just coping and managing and getting through the day.

    • therealjohnc - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM

      That may be YOUR feeling, and that of some fans. Don’t make the classic mistake of projecting your emotions onto someone else (much less a whole organization).

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:26 PM

        +1

  14. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    “@ZuckermanCSN: Zim says he felt better today throwing sidearm, plans to continue that motion. Hopeful he could return tomorrow.”

    Sounds like they have a plan in place. A shame they didn’t do this in Spring Training before the proverbial timebomb exploded.

    • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:27 PM

      We don’t know who the “they” is that you want to blame. For all we know RZ wasn’t fully comfortable disclosing his shoulder discomfort. If it hurt in the spring, why didn’t RZ suggest he needed to throw sidearm?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        Ultimate blame on Ryan himself but the team could have made a decision for the benefit of the whole team. By team and “they” I’m referring to Rizzo and MW.

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM

        I’m just saying we don’t know what transpired. For all we know the suggestion was made, and RZ said, “don’t worry, I got this, skip.”

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

        Quite possible.

  15. stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    If the Nats were 4-2, having beaten both the Mets and Braves 2 of 3, I doubt there would be this level of hysteria.

    • Danny - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM

      Salvaging the 3rd game against the Braves was huge in that regard. Based on what happened last year. Groundhog Day.

      • stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

        Yup.

  16. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    “@AdamKilgoreWP: Ryan Zimmerman says he hopes to play tomorrow night. Sidearm throws felt much better. On “arthritic:” “Everyone in this room is arthritic.””

    Good point RZim.

    • sjm308 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM

      Ghost – just hearing that makes me breath a little easier. Wish I could get my knee to throw sidearm. Arthritis sucks!!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:23 PM

        I’m feeling a whole lot better now myself. The Genie is out of the bottle and now they got to put it back in and figure out a solution. They are unfortunately a year late. They had no plan last year and that poor UZR and Runs Saved (negative) cost this team real games vs what he produced offensively.

        Any positive ideas is better than doing nothing. They need his bat and they aren’t trading him and they aren’t trading LaRoche I don’t believe. Lets hope it works better for 2014 v2.0

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:29 PM

        His retort re: arthritis certainly conveys the sense that it’s nothing out of the ordinary (e.g., degenerative)…

        I rarely take things at face value, but they do seem to have become remarkably candid about Zim all of a sudden.

  17. unkyd59 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    I got a notification that MW, on 106.7 today, said that Zim has an “arthritic shoulder”… Have we heard that before, and I wasn’t paying attention?

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:21 PM

      It was reported in 2012, yes.

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Nats going by the stats and flipping Stras to face Miami Thursday and Roark on Friday in Atlanta. Would Miami now flip José Fernandez with Kohler?

    • natsjackinfl - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM

      Listening to the Marlins broadcast on Sunday, they stated that that’s a strong possibility.

  19. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    “@ZuckermanCSN: Williams says “very realistic” Zimmerman plays 3B tomorrow. “If he feels fine, he’s going to continue to play third.””

    Further info on the plan going forward.

  20. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    Raise your hand if you feel a little bit better about all the new news.

    • veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:40 PM

      Not really. What has changed? We’re in the same spot with Zimmerman that we were in 2012 and 2013.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:47 PM

        He can throw more comfortably with that sidearm until they move him to 1st. Sure it’s not great and we have to see if it works but it’s a plan. Better than nothing.

      • veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:51 PM

        That’s the same thing that’s been happening since 2012. I hate that side arm toss.

    • Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:51 PM

      (…***Candide continues to sit firmly on hands***…)

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:04 PM

        Ok, maybe I’m being optimistic but I don’t think they put him back on the field to fail. Look, I think Ryan is most at fault here. From all reports he couldn’t make throws in warmups, he should have pulled himself from the game before it started.

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:01 PM

      Unless/until Zim can make that throw reliably, my comfort level will live and die with either Espi’s production or the rest of the lineup’s ability to render his production icing on the cake or lack of production irrelevant.

  21. Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    It’s fascinating how the error on Saturday caused everyone finally to realize that Zim has a serious problem. All last year, his throwing errors were met with “he’ll be fine” and “he’s still recovering from the surgery,” even though at one point we were told he’d be recovered by Opening Day. Then he had a good stretch and everyone said, “see, it just took awhile, but Zim is back.” Some people even claimed that his throws from 3B were “strong,” “better than ever,” and “solid,” even though it was pretty clear he was still laboring.

    Better late than never I guess, but it sure seems like more could have been done over the off season to prepare him for a move 1B if that’s going to be necessary, including perhaps even trading ALR. (Yes, I know his value was depressed, but still.)

    I’m not looking forward to a side-arm only throwing Zim at 3B. You can’t sidearm the strong across the diamond throw needed to get a speedy runner who smashes the ball down the line. I expect we’ll see Zim eating a lot of balls now that the cat’s out of the bag. But I guess it’s better than a 50% chance that his throw ends up in the stands.

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM

      You trade ALR and then what? What if Espinosa is still awful? And then what if someone gets hurt? There are a lot of moving parts, it’s not as simple as just trading ALR, depressed value or not.

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:55 PM

      I beg to differ that it took until Saturday for people to get worried about Zim. The first time he was out of the line up during ST alarm bells went off around here, and when it was reported as being due to shoulder soreness, folks got even more worried. I would characterize what’s happened since Saturday as more sadness and sympathy for Zim than anything along the lines of, “oh, you mean Zim has shoulder problems?!”

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        Or, more like: you mean he _still_ has shoulder problems?

        Lots of folks figured the winter off and then some reps would help. That’s a pretty reasonable assumption, right?

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM

        Certainly many people were worried before Saturday’s game. I pointed out in a long post before last season that his throwing problems developed long before his shoulder surgery. Check out the exchange starting at 2:42 pm:
        http://natsinsider.com/2013/03/12/whats-left-this-spring/#comments

        Yet we didn’t see this kind of reaction, including by the team, after his throwing error in NYC. Somehow the fact that it happened against the Braves, allowed runs to score that wouldn’t have, and was followed by Zim saying his shoulder was hurting caused a huge reaction and now he’s out of the lineup and Plan B’s are being developed. All I’m saying is that the handwriting was on the wall long ago. But many people kept assuming he’d be ok. Now, finally, the possibility that he will never be able to be a real third baseman again is upon us. The acceptance of that fact is something very new.

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:37 PM

        wonk, given the history (see my post in March 2013), no, I don’t think it was a reasonable assumption.

  22. tcostant - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    Looks like Rizzo talked with MW about injury info. Rizzo always hated the way that Davey use to give out non-released injury info:

    • veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:43 PM

      If calling it something else will make you feel better about it. Whatever.

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM

      Mike Rizzo himself called it arthritic in 2012.

    • Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:54 PM

      Rizzo says “arthritic,” MW says “degenerative.”

      Am I the only one who’s thinking there isn’t a single person in the entire organization, including the doctors, who really knows what the problem is? And that all this is nothing but a lot of words to cover even more ignorance?

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:57 PM

        I think everyone in the organization knows what the problemS are with Zim, I just think they aren’t all that worried about making sure the general public knows, too.

        Sad to see it characterized as “degenerative.”

      • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        I’m amused how MW thought that degenerative was somehow a better term.

      • Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:25 PM

        “Degenerative” is an adjective, not a noun.

        You can properly say someone has arthritis.

        You can not properly say someone has degenerative. Degenerative what? Arthritis? Bone disease? Heart disease?

        It’s utterly meaningless, which is why I think either no one really knows, or they just aren’t going to say.

    • JW - Apr 8, 2014 at 6:18 PM

      Rizzo himself used the word arthritic when quoted by Amanda Comak in October 2012.

  23. micksback1 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    I am glad Boswell wrote his op ed, I feel that I am not insane now. It really would not be a big deal to move Zim to 1st and platoon him with ALR. If Zim is not going to be out any extended period of time, why on Earth would he play 3rd with these issues continuing? If Nats are committed to him at 3rd, then put him on the 60 day DL and stop playing around with his health.

    • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:45 PM

      You have to balance that with a guy who adds a heckuva lot to the batting lineup. _If_ ALR is hitting well, you’re losing some offense my platooning them. We’ll have to see exactly how bad the shoulder and/or “yips” really are. None of us know, and the Nats ain’t tellin’. (Nor should they, imho).

      • micksback1 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        you are probably correct. my hope is that the Nats do what is best for Zim. If that means surgery, 60 DL, etc.. they need to decide that now

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM

        Only if they have enough information now!

        Sometimes injuries can be pretty tricky to figure out, in terms of: what’s the fastest way to get better. Wait? Rest? Anti-inflammatories? Surgery? It’s not an easy call. Further, how much is physical and how much in mental? There ain’t no meter for measuring that!

  24. micksback1 - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    additionally, nats just became a better defensive team in the infleld with Rendon at 3rd and Danny at 2b. Of course the question will be, will Danny fill the void on offense?

  25. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    222, after reading Amanda’s old 2012 article after the AC joint surgery you’re correct they said he would be fine by Opening Day 2013.

    I was a skeptic and a dissenting voice as he was plain bad to start the 2013 season. I didn’t understand at the time why he wasn’t playing “no doubles” defense in Game #10 which cost the Nats the game on 2 plays actually in that game. I was reluctant to call him out because Ryan is a National Treasure here until I felt compelled to tell the dirty little secret in early June 2013. Boz acts like he just discovered something with his “dirty little secret” comment. A year late on that Boz.

    • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:39 PM

      Check out some of the links in my March 2013 post liked to above. His throwing problems go way back.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:43 PM

        Absolutely 222 but last year his range was a joke based on defensive positioning and his throws were still for S***!

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:48 PM

        Yup. The range issue seemed to get much worse last year. Check out the Mar. 2013 post I linked to and the discussion that follows. You recognized the problem then, as did peric (aka cayuco). Imagine if the team back then had taken the kind of steps it seems to be taking now. Lots of errors (including that devastating one in April against the Braves might have been avoided. Note also that Zim tried the sidearm throwing thing back in 2010.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:55 PM

        Thanks 222. It’s a fine line giving observations when the beat writers and management stays silent. When Davey publicly said RZim needed to move back into proper position the season was over by that point.

        Unfortunately it’s still not water under the bridge as the situation is still the same as to a long-term solution as the sidearm fix could just be a bandaid.

        I am trying to be optimistic as at least now the Genie is out of the bottle. Boz who is a year late is now talking about the dirty little secret. Better late than never.

  26. veejh - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Espinosa is the wild cared here. Any time Zim rests, Espinosa starts. Whenever Zim takes over 1st for LaRoche, Espinosa starts. We need you Espi!

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM

      Agreed.

      • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        And? Zim ISN’T a wildcard playing third? Dude you aren’t watching the pitchers going for the ‘K’ instead of the ground ball. I am willing to bet you Taylor Jordan was a lot more comfortable with Rendon at third in that rubber match against the Braves.

  27. 3on2out - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    Danny has more errors than strikeouts. Make a note Wonk…that is a fun fact for your list!

    • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:32 PM

      Thanks!

    • adcwonk - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:44 AM

      With two K’s tonight, I can’t use it anymore! Sorry!

  28. natsguy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:08 PM

    Really tough to have to depend on someone who has let them them down so many, many, many times in the past. I have no confidence on depending on someone who has cost them so many, many, many times. Oh well.
    I wonder what excuse he’ll come up with this time and what injuries he’ll hide. What a waste.

    • natsjackinfl - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM

      I guess we’re all going to have to accept holding our breath on every ball hit to Ryan.

      Sorry but I’m not comfortable with that.

      • jd - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:22 PM

        What’s the alternative?

      • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:26 PM

        Precisely. Hmmmm sounds a lot like Danny? I seem to remember Zim having a similar injury to Danny’s playing the role of hole in the 3-hole in 2012 until the cortisone shot?

        Be nice if y’all could learn to be more objective.

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

      What injuries has he hid? What excuses has he ever made? His job isn’t to tell us every injury he has, it’s to tell the team and I’m quite sure the team knows.

      • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:32 PM

        Zim? You do remember when he was a hole in the lineup batting third in 2012? How he refused to leave the lineup because ‘they were finally winning’? Yeah right.

      • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:35 PM

        Why would he leave the lineup? He had a track record. The cortisone shot eventually worked and he was our best player down the stretch that year. NO player would leave the lineup in that circumstance. None. Not a single player. So please get off Zim’s back. We don’t win 98 games without Ryan Zimmerman that year.

    • stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM

      And those nine walk-off home runs? Yeah, thanks for nothing pal. Good riddance!

      Stop being a jerk.

      • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:28 PM

        That won’t happen again if he continues to play third base.

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:36 PM

        . . . and the Gold Glove, and two Silver Slugger awards, playing in fewer than 145 games only twice since he was called up for good . . . . and, most importantly, being a great player who never complained during those miserable awful years . . . he’s deserved the title FoF

      • stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:36 PM

        cayucosbaseballconservancy

        I’m not suggesting that he should continue to play third base. I’m just disgusted by the snivelling about how “many, many, many” times he’s cost us and how “many, many, many” times he’s “let us down.”

        We shall see what we shall see about the Nats’ plans, and it’s certainly fair game to discuss them on these threads, but some folks need to pull on their big-boy underoos and stop acting like it’s a personal affront when their expectations aren’t met on a daily basis.

  29. letswin3 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    51 weeks ago Manny Acta and John Kruck on Zims throwing problems …. this is back in April 2013
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/04/17/baseball-tonight-on-ryan-zimmermans-throwing-issues/

    • cayucosbaseballconservancy - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:31 PM

      Yup. I remember that. Of course most everyone round here ignored what they said.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

        “Most everybody” is a Ryan Zimmerman cheerleader and it was taboo to say anything deemed negative.

        I have said it for years and love Ryan’s positive contributions but a realist on what has happened to his durability and defense abilities. Did you back me Peric on my criticism of hos defensive positioning or range? I was the only person saying the dirty little secret.

      • jd - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM

        Ghost,

        Why do you give a s*it if someone backs you or not?

      • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:50 PM

        Actually peric did back you on Zim’s throwing, and you were not the only person noticing the range issue.

    • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM

      It goes back a lot longer than that:
      http://natsinsider.com/2013/03/12/whats-left-this-spring/#comments

      (See my comment at 2:42, collecting articles going back to 2007. Yes, 2007.)

      • letswin3 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:48 PM

        Where’s Susan Sarandon when we need her?

  30. adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    Gee, can you tell we’re itchin’ for a game?

    We’re at 120+ comments, and it’s still 1-1/2 hours before game-time!

    • Section 222 - Apr 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM

      132 and counting. :-)

      • adcwonk - Apr 8, 2014 at 6:05 PM

        Well, this will be the last one I’m adding to this thread, most likely . . . but I’ve got a great excuse:

        I’m headed out to the game.

        See y’all on the flip side!

  31. paulfortier - Apr 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    For the Marlins, it will be the first games in a the cold since… last September. Do you think it could be a factor in favor of the Nats?

  32. Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Okay, first pitch in a couple of minutes.

    DO NOT LET GIANCARLO STANTON BEAT YOU

    Does that really need to be said?

    • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:22 PM

      That’s not a bad rundown to get into, before people complain of bad baserunning. It was smart because it made certain Werth would score when it may have been a close play at the plate.

      • David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:23 PM

        Woops, didn’t mean to respond to you Candide!

  33. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:09 PM

    Gosh… Nats last played Sunday but it feels like it’s been days….

    Go Nats.. Go Gio!

  34. Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    One run, one TOOTBLAN.

  35. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    That’s when you get aggressive. 2 outs.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:25 PM

      If the throw was on target who knows and I agree with you that’s the time to get aggressive with 2 outs.

  36. sunshinebobby - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    A minus-1 for our defensive overshift,

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:29 PM

      Agreed. You can get a little too cute with it sometimes, sunshine.

  37. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    Lucky that Garrett Jones grounder to 3rd wasn’t a double if it gets past Desi. So much for Weidemayer and his defensive shifts.

    • adcwonk - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:46 AM

      I wonder if ALR can do that

  38. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:26 PM

    I actually wasn’t upset with Adam for that one….

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM

      Why would anybody be upset with Adam? That was totally calculated by LaRoche.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:46 PM

        I think some people will feel like with the recent events (maybe the over-aggressiveness) that he was sent… I thought it was a good move becuz the play at home looked close (to me)…

  39. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    Need a doubleplay here in front of that Stanton guy.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:49 PM

      Nice move Gio on the pickoff!

  40. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:48 PM

    Gio is doing nibble nibble nibble with long counts and already 2 walks in 2 innings.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:54 PM

      The one guy he should nibble on was Stanton and he went right after him on the 4th and 5th pitch. Lucky that wasn’ t sent on to the concourse.

  41. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    So I guess we will see doing that play next year, right…

  42. Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:51 PM

    He makes it look easy, doesn’t he?

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:52 PM

      I meant Span

  43. stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Zimmerman throws out Echavarria at second if he’s playing first instead of LaRoche. Definitely. Never in doubt.

    *whew*

  44. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    I put up 4 not close to Stanton. Lucky he didn’t get under that.

  45. Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Sweet pickoff move.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:00 PM

      Guessed right or picked off a sign!

  46. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    59 pitches over 3 innings for Gio. That’s why he can’t go deep into games normally.

    • adcwonk - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:48 AM

      We need to cut him a bit of slack — after all, it’s a chilly night and the first week of April

      And he ended up retiring the last 10 consecutive batters he faced — just 3 hits in 6 IP, with 5 K’s and 101 pitches.

    • scmargenau - Apr 9, 2014 at 2:13 AM

      Feel a bit silly now don’t u?

      • natinalsgo - Apr 9, 2014 at 7:01 AM

        Actually not. I really like Gio and this is the one part of the game where he has to improve. He’s a power pitcher and the nibble stuff runs his pitch count up.

  47. Danny - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Let’s get Gio some more run support!

  48. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Another uh oh for a pitcher, the Rays young star Matt Moore to the DL and on his way to Doc Andrews.

  49. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    LaRoche now sporting a .464 OBP Why would you sit this guy.

    • adcwonk - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:50 AM

      Exactly. Folks who are urging that RZ and ALR should platoon are forgetting what a force ALR can be (in a good year). He got on base 4 times tonight, scored twice, and had an RBI (and help create a run with his baserunning)

      • natinalsgo - Apr 9, 2014 at 6:57 AM

        Make that at the end of the game a .348 BA and .500 OBP and 9 RBIs.

  50. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    Why in earth didn’t Desi just take first pitch?

    And, is Alvarez suddenly struggling?

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:19 PM

      He thought he would ambush him. Just off the end of his bat.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:21 PM

        Wow…according to GameDay it was at least 6″ inside!

  51. Danny - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Nats need to break out a multi run inning..

  52. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Gio just pitched that ball to Stanton where JZ pitched that HR to Gattis. Lucky I say. Stanton is the hottest hitter in baseball.

  53. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:42 PM

    Can the Nats get Gio some runs!

    • Danny - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:44 PM

      Nats fans should be used to these kind of games by now.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:03 PM

      Yes they can!

  54. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:47 PM

    Wow strike 3 to Span wans’t even close enough to worry about protecting against. Ridiculous.

  55. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Aggression pays off again! LaRoche making things happen!!!

  56. Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Way to go, Lady Luck!

  57. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    Rendon! Woo!

  58. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Espi looking a little like 2013 in this at bat…

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

      Oof

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

      His lefty swing has been much improved and his righty swing this season is not good.

  59. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Danny’s righthanded swing is awful. Its not golf.

  60. David Proctor - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:05 PM

    Espinosa has looked like old-Espi today. Not the results, but the swings. But everybody is entitled to a bad game, I’ll try to reserve judgement.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:06 PM

      Did any of those 4 pitches catch the strike zone?

  61. stoatva - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:07 PM

    Oy. The return of “Bad Danny.” Nothing like swinging like a windmill at a rookie pitcher.

  62. Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Some things never change. And probably never will.
    ALR looks good though.

  63. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM

    Find your center Blevins…

  64. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Glad you are pulling Blevins. That was not good.

  65. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:13 PM

    WordPress Complaint #117: no comment form at the end if the comments. Super lame scrolling all the way back up to post on a mobile device when the thread gets long.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:15 PM

      Agreed, Eric.

      • scmargenau - Apr 9, 2014 at 2:10 AM

        I can’t even log in from iPhone. They need a better comment mod like Diquss

  66. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:19 PM

    RENDON!!!

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:21 PM

      I dare say the young padawan has been paying attention to his elder…

      • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:26 PM

        Eric, don’t say it. That was Rendiculous!

  67. Joe Seamhead - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    Moore ought to be able to crush this Ramos, but not tonight…I thought he’d pulverize those fastballs.

  68. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Clip’s last two change ups to Baker were ***nasty***, even the one that faded inside. Damn.

  69. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    CLIP! That splitter to K Stanton was unbelievable!

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:41 PM

      Crazy pitch. I didn’t know Clip threw that pitch.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:47 PM

        He threw I’ve against I think the Mets… Was excellent, but only about 3/4 as nasty. He was locked in for Baker and Stanton.

      • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:55 PM

        What are you trying to say?

  70. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:41 PM

    Mets up 3-0 on the Barves.

  71. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Gio pitched great and so did Storen and Clip but hats off to Rendon for his defense and offense.

  72. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    Wow. Just… Wow.

    RENDON!

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:54 PM

      Look what I wrote 10 minutes before you ;)

  73. Candide - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    The kid can play.

  74. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    I remember someone was dogging Rendon in Spring Training for not driving in runs or scoring runs in comparison to Espinosa. That’s irony.

    • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:01 PM

      That was me and “dogging” is rather hyperbolic

      My thoughts are still there if you care to verify.

      • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:04 PM

        I just remember someone saying it and scratching my head as if it meant anything. Spring Training stats for most players mean absolutely nothing. Case and point.

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM

        If Rendon has one 3 week slump during the season, but otherwise his life this, does that mean something?

        If not, does that mean it wouldn’t surprise you?

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:13 PM

        Argh…hits like this

  75. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:01 PM

    Weidemaier on his game in defensive positioning except for the Garrett Jones 1st AB. Espinosa catching balls without moving.

  76. natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    Mets up 4-0 on Barves. Nats win and take over 1st Place!

  77. Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:07 PM

    FANTASTIC win all around.

    • natinalsgo - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:08 PM

      So many stars to this game! Amazing defense stands out and big pitches when the Nats needed them. Clip on Stanton was FILTHY!

      • Eric - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:12 PM

        + Rendon and LaRoche!

        Also, Rendon and Werth are just absolutely locked in. Amazing to watch them at the plate.

      • adcwonk - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:53 AM

        + also Span, for making it look easy that no balls fell in the outfield

  78. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Whoop, whoop… Good game…nice win!

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