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Game 58: Phillies at Nats

Jun 5, 2014, 12:04 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

The Nationals have put together a nice little run here as of late, winning four of their last five games and scoring a bunch of runs in the process. Tonight they send Doug Fister (3-1, 3.34) to the mound for his sixth start of the season as they look for the sweep against Philly.

Having pitched the majority of his career in the American League, Fister has very little experience against the Phillies. He has one start against the franchise on his record, on July 26 of last season. He pitched eight innings and gave up just three hits and no earned runs. He outdueled Cole Hamels that day as the Tigers beat the Phillies 2-1.

Kyle Kendrick (1-5, 4.21) will start for the Phillies in his 12th appearance of the season. He has yet to face the Nats this season, but has 22 (!) starts against them in his career. Combined with two relief appearances, Kendrick holds a 4.85 ERA against the Nats across 120 2/3 total innings.

Stay tuned for updates throughout the game…

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where:
 Nationals Park
Gametime: 4:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 184, MLB.com
Weather: Partly cloudy, 80 degrees, Wind 12 mph out to CF

NATIONALS (29-28)
CF Denard Span
2B Anthony Rendon
RF Jayson Werth
1B Adam LaRoche
LF Ryan Zimmerman
3B Kevin Frandsen
SS Danny Espinosa
C Jose Lobaton
RHP Doug Fister

PHILLIES (24-33)
CF Ben Revere
SS Jimmy Rollins
2B Chase Utley
1B Ryan Howard
RF John Mayberry
LF Dominic Brown
C Wil Nieves
3B Reid Brignac
RHP Kyle Kendrick

UMPIRES
HP Ron Kulpa (cc)
1B John Tumpane
2B Mike Everitt
3B Ed Hickox

4:16 p.m. — The Phillies got a run in the first inning on a Utley RBI single. Revere led off with a double, was moved to third on a Rollins’ sac bunt, and then scored on Utley’s hit. The inning also featured two impressive defensive plays by Fister. On the Rollins bunt he grabbed the ball on a full sprint before tossing it to first for the out. Rollins nearly beat the ball to the bag. Fister then did a full split trying to stretch for a double play while covering first. A first baseman in college, Fister showed off his flexibility there.

4:30 p.m. — The Nationals tied it up in the bottom half of the inning thanks to a Zimmerman RBI single. With men on first and second, Zim took the first pitch from Kendrick for a single to left field. It was a groundball that was fast enough to get past Rollins and slow enough to score Rendon from second. The game is now tied at 1-1.

4:46 p.m. — Nothing going for either team in the second inning. Fister put in a 1-2-3 inning and is at 25 pitches after two. Lobaton walked and got to second on a Fister sac bunt, but the Nats failed to bring him home. Kendrick has thrown 31 pitches.

5:06 p.m. — Still 1-1 after three innings as both teams saw runners get on base, but no one score. Rollins doubled off Fister, who has now thrown 44 pitches. The ball was hit to left field and required Zimmerman to throw to the cutoff man in the infield. He went off his back foot and fired an accurate strike to Espinosa at short. The Nats saw Rendon hit by a pitch and Werth walk with no outs before three straight outs on balls hit in play ended the frame.

5:17 p.m. — Fister got the Phillies out in order to begin the fourth and is now at 56 pitches on the afternoon. Espinosa led off with a single in the bottom half of the inning, but a Lobaton GIDP and Fister groundout ended the inning. It’s still 1-1 with the fifth inning up next.

5:38 p.m. — With the way things have been going, the Nationals’ offense was bound for a breakout inning this afternoon. In the fifth they scored three runs, one on a Werth RBI single and the other two on a LaRoche two-run bomb to right field. The Nats now lead the Phillies 4-1 with the sixth inning up next.

5:58 p.m. — No runs to report on in the sixth inning as Fister continued to cruise in the top half of the frame. He has now retired 17 of his last 19 batters. The Nats then saw Espinosa lead off with a walk, but no runs come across. Still 4-1 as Fister will go back out there having thrown 82 pitches through six.

6:13 p.m. — The Phillies got to Fister for another run, this on a solo homer by Mayberry. Fister got the next three outs and is now done as Tyler Clippard will take over to begin the eighth.

6:37 p.m. — Still a 4-1 game after eight as Rafael Soriano will take over looking for his 12th save of the season.

6:46 p.m. — Soriano shut it down, Nats win 4-2. Here’s my instant analysis: http://natsinsider.com/2014/06/05/instant-analysis-nats-4-phillies-2-2/

221 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Like our odds today for the sweep. We pretty much own Kendrick.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:15 PM

      That’s another way of saying reverse lock.

      • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        How bout this instead: Fister’s been on a tear, no way the Phils’ sad lineup beats him today.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:50 PM

        That’s a double reverse lock! You think they cancel each other out?

      • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        With the way we’ve been hitting, do we even need to play this game?

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:44 PM

      Kendrick is either really good or really bad against us. He’s shut us out a few times and he’s also been completely destroyed a few times.

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:57 PM

        That’s exactly how I remember it.

    • Candide - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:07 PM

      All Kendrick has to do is not let Span-through-Zimm hurt him. Spots 6-9 – Frandsen/Espi/Lobaton/Fister – is full of guys he can pitch around.

    • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

      There’s the jnix

  2. Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM

    Forecast for us is pretty much clear, but I wouldn’t want to plan a long drive to St. Louis for a game tonight.

    • NatsLady - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:56 PM

      Who’s going to St. Louis? You mean for the Nats on their way home from San Diego and SF?

  3. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Ramos and Desmond getting the day off. Frandsen at 2B against the righty, which I don’t get. Why not give Desmond a day off against a lefty so Frandsen has a chance?

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:37 PM

      Nevermind, Frandsen at 3B.

    • Danny - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:47 PM

      Shouldnt Rendon and Frandsen be switched?

      • masterfishkeeper - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:51 PM

        Rendon is a much better second baseman than Frandsen, putting aside the silly talk about “natural” positions. (Always make me wonder about unnatural positions, but I’ll leave that for another day and another forum.)

        Defense is better with Rendon at 2nd and Frandsen at 3rd.

      • Doc - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM

        Most of the Nats’ LFers are playing ‘un-naturally”!

  4. nats1924 - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    not trying to be negative ned — man, Zim just prob felt someone hit him in the gut when he looked at todays lineup card and saw Frandsen at 3B

    Sorry Zim, but this has to happen. Ive been at too many games where your throws were game changing killers.

    ..see yall at the yard. go Nats!

    • theucane - Jun 5, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      That’s a good point. I didn’t even think about that. It probably did smack him in the face. He seems to be adjusting to that fact pretty well so far though.

    • bowdenball - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      Interesting point. On the other hand, playing behind a severe groundball pitcher is probably not the way the Nats want to work Zimm back into the infield mix. Maybe they’ll give him a shot when Stras or Gio is on the mound, someone who allows fewer balls in play and can get a K behind a defensive mistake if you need one.

    • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:18 PM

      You’re assuming he didn’t already know.

      • Eric - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        Or even prefer it.

  5. Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    The two guys that have two home runs each and average better than .400 against kyle are resting. Hope we can muster enough runs to win today.

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:15 PM

      Zim is the only guy in the lineup now who has had any success against Kendrick.

    • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:24 PM

      We’re talking about such small sample sizes that these #s really don’t mean much.

      Yes, Ramos has done well, but we’re talking about 11 PAs. And he is not going to play a day game after a rain delayed night game anyway.

      Heck, Scott Hairston has faced him in 6 ABs, with 4 hits (1 2B, one HR) and 3 RBIs.

      I, for one, am glad they’re not just going on past match ups.

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        Come on. 52 or 37 PA is not small for a batter vs pitcher matchup. You cannot really expect 100 or more PAs. I will give you Ramos but RZ has had success every year except 2012 and so did Desi.

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM

        You cannot really expect 100 or more PAs.

        It’s true that you can’t expect an individual batter to have that many PAs against an individual pitcher.

        It’s also true that you can’t expect a prediction made on the basis of 40-50 PAs to be very reliable, period.

  6. natsguy - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM

    Bowdenball,

    Responding to your last question in a prior thread.

    Because 92 victories would require them to play .600 baseball the rest of the season. They have been playing at 4 games below .500 for the last 48 games or 84% of the season to date. That’s why. They would have to play 21 games above .500 the rest of the way. They haven’t done that pace since 2012. I haven’t seen proof that they can this year. They need to get off their as*** and prove it.

    • bowdenball - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM

      I’m not sure I follow your point. Why would they need 92 victories? As I said before, unless you think the Marlins are for real all they need to do is be two games better than the Braves from here on out and they’ll win the division. There’s no reason to set arbitrary benchmarks in a race that is this close and that most people assume is a two-team race.

      Do you think the Braves will be 19 games over .500 the rest of the way? I haven’t seen anything that makes me think that. They have a worse run differential than the Nats, their starting pitching has been unsustainably good, and they haven’t lost a single key player to an in-season injury yet.

    • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM

      92 wins is not a completely arbitrary target, but there’s good reason to think it doesn’t apply this year.

      Starting in 2010, the NL East winners had 97, 102, 98, and 96 wins, respectively. Going back that far, no winner of any division in the NL had fewer than 91 wins. You have to go back to 2007 to find a team that won the NL East with fewer than 92 wins. So the idea that 91-92 wins is a kind of floor has some (recent) history behind it.

      That said, 2014 certainly looks different. The Braves are on a pace to win 87 games. Miami is on a pace to win 85 games. In all of the NL, there are only 2 teams on a pace to win 90 or more games right now. Usually, there are 4-6 teams on that pace in early June.

      The Nats have their work cut out for them–no need to overestimate the task as an excuse for more doom and gloom about the ability to achieve it.

      • bowdenball - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

        I don’t know why you’d restrict the data to the NL East or even the NL. If it can happen in the AL Central it can happen in the NL East too.

        I think there’s two interesting factors at work here. The first is a number of trends in recent years towards parity, including the revenue sharing and amateur talent spending caps in the new CBA and the proliferation of early extensions. As a result there’s a lot fewer excellent teams in the game and a lot more decent ones, which is reflected in the current standings. The second is that the differences between contenders and non-contenders tend to blossom in August and September due to trades at the deadline and other roster moves.

        Bottom line for me is that the Nats are in very good shape in my humble opinion. They have survived a brutal stretch of injuries and come out of it above .500, 1.5 games out of first, and with the second-best run differential in the NL. If they have a similar run differential over the rest of the season they’ll finish around +70. Virtually every team with that kind of run differential has at least made the playoffs as a wild card, and many relatively weak divisions have been won with a differential like that.

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

        BB

        We’re largely in agreement. My point was that the 92 win threshold does have some historical basis, which I don’t think you’re denying. Your point–with which I agreed–is that the 92 win target doesn’t seem to apply to the Nats’ particular situation this year.

        You raise some interesting reasons as to why it might not apply generally going forward. Late season surges and dives notwithstanding, it is unusual to have so few teams on a 90+ game pace after 2 months. Maybe it’s the influence of the CBA and other factors. Maybe it has more local and short-term causes. Maybe it’s just an inexplicable fluke. We will see.

        In the meantime, I am cautiously optimistic about the Nats prospects this season, which seems to be where you come down too, and which separates both of us from the original poster.

    • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM

      Gotta agree that everyone seems a little over excited about a slight tepid streak. Show be 10 over and we can talk.

  7. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM

    A groundball pitcher and you move 3 infielders around.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM

      BTW, it’s become a stretch to call Frandsen an infielder.

      Why not RZim at 3rd and use a bench LF.

      • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM

        Clearly Zim can’t throw or else he’d be there with Desmond getting the day off

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        David, I’m thick, clearly that isn’t CLEAR to me.

    • bowdenball - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:53 PM

      There’s no way to avoid moving 3 infielders around if you want to give Desmond the day off without giving us all nightmares from having to watch Frandsen man second again. Espi has to move from second to short and Rendon has to replace him.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        Bowdenball, according to FanGraphs, Frandsen in his time with the Phools was a better 2B then a 3B. Cringeworthy I know.

      • bowdenball - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:01 PM

        Frightening.

        Still, I’d rather have the better defender in the middle infield with a guy like Fister on the mound then go out of my way to leave Rendon at the position he’s been playing the majority of the season.

  8. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:21 PM

    Start the debate

    “@AdamKilgoreWP: Bryce Harper said he would prefer to play center when he comes back, but he also called Span “maybe the best” CF in baseball.”

    • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:25 PM

      Sorry, but I don’t think it’s much a debate.

      Span is not the best CF in MLB, or even in the conversation.

      That’s all you meant, right?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM

        I’m thinking that it’s a possibility as I said a few times in the last month that it’s possible the starting OF would be RZim, Harp and JDub and the Nats would be looking to trade for Aaron Hill or stick with Espi at 2nd or make a big splash for someone like Neil Walker.

        I think that there is a good possibility that RZim is done with 3B by his own desire.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM

        And HH, he is not the best CF or even Top 10 in the MLB (all around) per WAR and all Bryce was doing was being a good teammate.

        The fact Bryce said that about CF will fuel the speculation.

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        Ghost

        I was just making a joke about which part you were inviting us to debate–the Span is #1 part or the Harp to CF part.
        (To give Span his due – I think that looking back over the past 3-4 years, you can make a good case that he is a top 5 defensive CFer, tho not #1).

        Also–you’re only being so good a teammate when you publicly say that you want to take your teammate’s job.

    • markbyers1716 - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:31 PM

      Not the best in baseball.

      Moot point – Zimmerman is back in the infield once Harper is back. They are just giving his thumb extra time heal in a position where he isn’t diving, making tags, bare-handing bunts etc.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:45 PM

        I love people who are 100% one way or another on there moves. There were people 100% convinced RZim would never play LF. They were 100% wrong.

        Denard Span is short-term here as 2015 is an option year and the team might not pick it up.

        Bryce wants to play CF. RZim seems fine in LF. I’m not 100% sure on anything.

        It’s called being open-minded. To me there’s a whole host of factors that include overall defense and how Span is playing and how Espi is playing.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM

      In fairness, the whole quote was:“I think everybody knows I love center field. That’s where I like to be. My numbers are a lot better in center field. I feel good there. But of course we have Denard Span, who’s one of the best center fielders in the game, if not the best. So I’ll play anywhere they want me.”

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        In fairness the quote even points more on what Bryce desires.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        I’m up here in NYC, and just read this to a knowledgeable baseball guy who laughed and said it sounds like Bryce wants to play CF.

        Does it mean Bryce will play CF when he comes back? No, but I think it’s a very telling group of quotes.

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:25 PM

        That quote sounds better than Ak’s tweet. What does he mean by better numbers in CF? Defensively against his LF?

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

        Faraz,in simplistic stats, in 275 games played in the outfield Harper has 15 errors. 5 in CF,6 in LF, and 4 in RF.
        There are maybe more accurate ways to judge what Bryce referred to as his numbers being better in CF. Maybe Ghost, or NatsLady could back up his statement about his numbers being better in center with advanced metrics?

  9. janebeard - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    I’m also noticing that Zimm is not at 3B and neither is Rendon. I guess they’re committee to LF aren’t they? I will miss seeing Ian today.

  10. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Not good and this is what I have been complaining about in these blowouts and rain delays to get Werth, Ramos and Desi in the showers and especially last night as catchers and outfielders specifically will tighten up.

    “@AdamKilgoreWP: Williams said it was just time for Desmond to get a day. He felt tight all over after the rain delay and restart last start.”

  11. nats2005 - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:17 PM

    Even though we lose Ramos, switching our old friend Nieves for Ruiz doesn’t help the Filths much either.

    While he may be only 20 or so points lower in AVG, he’s over 100 points lower in OBP.

    Diz

  12. ArVAFan - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    Looks as if I’m the only Insider going today (per the NIDO spreadsheet). Because of the post-game concert, we in 313 Row J get moved (for the lighting). So I’ll be down in 131 for a change. I’ll miss my cheering buddies. Maybe we’ll try to start something in 131.

    Hey, Nats, why don’t you score a lot today so we have several chances to try to get the cheer going? It’s not as if they don’t know how . . .

    • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:24 PM

      The aforementioned NIDO+ spreadsheet
      Who’s going?

  13. sjm308 - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Will be in 308 today!

  14. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    I won’t argue with anybody about Span being the best CFer in baseball, but you know what is irrefutable? He is the best outfielder on this team. And an outfield consisting of Zimmerman, Harper, and Werth would be a very bad outfield compared to an outfield of Harper, Span, and Wertth. Say what you want, Bryce Harper is still full of promise, but he is not a great outfielder yet.

    • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:22 PM

      Defensively, Zimm-Harp-Werth < Harp-Span-Werth, no doubt.

      Thanks for the fuller report of Harp's remarks–I see Mark has it in his new story, and to me (at least) it sounds better than what Kilgore tweeted.

      I was intrigued by Harp saying, "My numbers are a lot better in center field." If that's true, it's mainly in terms of the advanced defensive metrics.

      • 6ID20 - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

        I’m sure he’s referring to his offensive numbers. He couldn’t tell you what his advanced defensive metrics are if you put a gun to his head.

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM

      Harper is a very good CFer. He is a very mediocre at best corner outfielder.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:53 PM

        He has the potential to be a very good CFer, in my opinion. Being very good starts with knowing when, where, and why to throw the ball. He does get better reads in CF than in the corners, but most players do.

      • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:56 PM

        FWIW, if you look at the defensive metrics, they have him as a great CF, slightly above average RF and slightly below average LF.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        David, you are often one to mention “small sample size.” Bryce has played in 104 games in CF. For defensive advanced metrics? That’s a small sample size, no?

      • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM

        It absolutely is a small sample and what I said shouldn’t be taken as gospel. That’s why I prefaced it with “FWIW”

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:26 PM

        But that really doesn’t make much sense, does it?

        CF is pretty universally regarded as the hardest OF position. So he’s excellent at the hardest position, and mediocre at the easier ones?

        As to his defensive metrics–not only are the CF #s too small a sample size to give much credence, but most of his innings at that position came in 2012, when he was fresh, eager, and not banged up. Most of his innings in LF came in 2013, when he was frequently playing on a bum knee.

      • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:31 PM

        “CF is pretty universally regarded as the hardest OF position. So he’s excellent at the hardest position, and mediocre at the easier ones?”

        That’s not unheard of. Mike Trout was moved to LF last year and he was awful there, both by metrics (small sample) and by eyes. So the Angels moved him back to CF where he was comfortable.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:29 PM

        CF is harder in that there is more ground to cover. Harper has said he gets better reads there, and for someone as aggressive and fast as he is, that’s about all he needs.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        That, and there’s only one wall to worry about. ; )

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:02 PM

        Actually, according to UZR/150, Trout is at least as good in LF as CF (10.4 UZR/150 in left, 9.4 in CF). But the sample size in LF is small, about the size of Harp’s in CF.

        I don’t doubt there that players have preferences. Trout played OF in high school and CF mostly in the minors, so in his case I’m sure there is a comfort level. Bryce, obviously, doesn’t have that history with the OF, or CF, period. He’s a competitive guy and wants to be the best–so why wouldn’t be want to play the hardest OF position?

        I’m not saying he can’t or won’t play CF well in the long term, btw. But I don’t think we can speak with much certainty, one way or the other, right now.

  15. NatsLady - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:47 PM

    I’m sujre Jayson could have left after the rain delay. I don’t think he likes to.

    • NatsLady - Jun 5, 2014 at 2:48 PM

      I still bear in mind what he said a while back, “They don’t ask a lot of us, just stay in shape…etc.). He takes his job seriously.

  16. NatsLady - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    I know Rizzo doesn’t draft for need, but Jeez , get some middle infielders in the system. We got flashy outfielders, pitchers to spare, even an up-and-coming catcher….

    • tcostant - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:19 PM

      Lets take the best non-pitcher. Agreed.

    • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM

      Kolko just reported we’ll be taking the best player available.

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:50 PM

      Draft the best player available. If you have a need later on, you can trade for it.

  17. NatsLady - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Bear in mind the infield Fister had in Detroit. He’ll survive.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM

      Understood, but I did cringe when I saw today’s lineup, but the last time I had that reaction they went out and played a great game. I personally hate to see wholesale changes in the lineup up when a team has winning. I understand why Zimm isn’t playing third, but I would’ve preferred to have kept Rendon at third, and had Frandsen at second, but I assume that Williams has his reason. Frandsen really is a mediocre third baseman. That’s okay, because we are going to put up another 8 runs today.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:32 PM

      Hasn’t Jose caught a couple of Fister’s games? I seem to remember that they have worked well together.

  18. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Don’t like two starters out. All for Ramos off but not Desmond too. Load up and bury these guys. Can’t let them win today. Must bury this team and keep the MO MO.

  19. micksback1 - Jun 5, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    as I said just win series, Nats have won 2 in a row, they should beat Padres twice, if they lose series to giants, fine, at least win a game. I wish the Beast was still here, what a season is having

  20. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    I really wanna see a shallow sac fly right at Zim right now.

  21. Eric - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    Was Revere’s double legit, or did Zim’s arm play a role?

    • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:11 PM

      Legit. Zims toss back in was ok.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:21 PM

      Laced down the 3rd base line onto the outfield side wall where the ball-person sits.

  22. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    For those not watching, you just missed Fister doing the splits to try to get out Howard at 1st. Wow.

  23. bluejeener - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM

    Re: Zim and third – I get the impression that he is ok with not testing the shoulder more than he has to. Not watching the game yet, though, so it does hurt to see reduced defensive ability at multiple positions.
    Bats need to stay hot!

  24. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    Listening to hear FP talking how Desi and Ramos hit Kendrick so well. Oh well as they say. Let’s hope Frandsen and Lobaton do great.

    I’m hoping Desi is ok.

    • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:58 PM

      Just another reason to dislike MW

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        But then, some folks don’t need another reason, or any reason at all, do they?

  25. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Nats pitchers have done exceptionally well the last week keeping leadoff hitters in the inning off-base. Results of a lead-off double leads to a 1-0 deficit.

  26. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Interesting contrast. JZimm and Strasburg were both late covering 1B. Fister was not only there on time, but he did a freaking split! I wouldn’t recommend doing the splits to others, but they could learn from him nonetheless.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:22 PM

      His PFFs are so sound. A Gold Glove pitcher IMO.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        +1 to both of you on Fister

      • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM

        Help me out. What is the difference between PFF and PFP and PCP

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:43 PM

        Pitching Fielding Fundamentals, Pitching Fielding Practice, and PCP is a bad drug known as Angel Dust and I don’t think is a baseball term.

      • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:00 PM

        Thanks

  27. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    I’ve never seen a Nat be pitched around as much as LaRoche has been lately. Wow. No respect at all for Zimmerman.

    • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:28 PM

      Kendrick w a .364 vs lefties

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM

        Bingo and 1st base open. It really didn’t backfire on them, RZim just found the hole. Frandsen almost found a hole.

  28. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Way to go Zim!

  29. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    How much did we miss RZim?

  30. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:35 PM

    Looks like Fister is picking up right where he left off. I love this guy.

  31. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:37 PM

    Nice bunt idea Espi. Kendrick has to make a perfect play and Ryan Howard saved him.

    • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM

      Danny seems to do better on days he tries a bunt, even when it’s not a hit, doesn’t he?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM

        Great question. It seems like every time he gets a bunt hit he has a 2-fer day.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM

        Even Danny knows you can’t bunt a six-run home run. Gets him in the proper frame of mind, maybe.

  32. Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Kendrick stays wild or gets worse at nibbling, we could see the Phillies pen early today.

  33. Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Gee, looked to me on replay like Kendrick tipped that.

  34. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Like I said, Gold Glove Fister.

  35. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Quite nimble for a 6’8″er

  36. Danny - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Doug E. F.

  37. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Blue blew that on Utley on 2-2. That stinks but Fister comes back with the swinging K variety.

  38. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 4:52 PM

    Fister gets Utley on strike four.

  39. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    Can’t pitch around LaRoche this time. Make him pay.

  40. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    That inning died quickly. Blah.

  41. Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    WOW! How unlucky!

  42. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    What a lousy inning guys. 2 men on and none out with the heart of the order. LaRoche has to pull that ball to the right side to at least give Rendon the chance to move up to 3rd.

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:07 PM

      If he pulls it on the ground, it’s probably a double play ball, no?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:29 PM

        It would be if it doesn’t find a hole which is why you need to elevate like Rendon just did there.

    • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      I think I agree with FP. That looked a hittable pitch. LaRoche just failed to execute. It happens. RZ also smoked his hit, unfortunately directly at someone. Kevin is Kevin, he is not part of your heart of order even if he is taking up Desi’s usual place today.

      • jd - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM

        I am with DP and Faraz here. I won’t LaRoche to knock the run in so we can have a big inning not semi sacrifice himself in the 3rd inning.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

        Yes, RZim with unlucky BABIP there. That was smoked.

  43. David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    LaRoche and Zim both lined out that inning. Not much you can do about that.

  44. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    Fister is a machine.

  45. Danny - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    I <3 Doug.

  46. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:26 PM

    Span the man……. Now bat him in.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

      You ask and Rendon with Werth delivered.

  47. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    So center fielder peeps slightly to make a catch that any MLB player can make and FP acts like the dude just made a Shark catch in Houston from 2012. Tired of this guy. Nice hit Werth

  48. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    I dunno…Im not a big fan of the Nats/Jets chant.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:35 PM

      Then don’t do it. It’s getting big in 311 and spreading. I like that there is something unique going on for Nats fans.

      • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM

        Hardly unique. That’s a bite, big time.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM

      Section 313 started, that is where I sit. We even did it in Pittsburgh.

      Sure beats the wave.

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM

        Ever sit first row above our bullpen? It’s pretty cool.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM

        Sec 313 still is the leader of the pack. We wait for their cue.

  49. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    Smart base running by Span. He knew if Rendon’s ball got past Revere that he could walk home from 2nd, but he stayed near to second and tagged up and moved to 3rd. Then again, he waited to make sure Werth’s hit dropped before going home.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:33 PM

      Exactly. Glad you are smart enough to say that and Span was smart enough to play it perfectly.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:36 PM

        What are you trying to say, Steve?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:41 PM

        You are astute in your comment. It’s nice to read when someone nails it.

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:46 PM

        That sure didn’t sound like you were praising him. :P

  50. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    That’s why you pitch around LaRoche! 2 run jack!!!!

    • jd - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:37 PM

      Pick your poison. Zim is no gimmie either.

      • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:39 PM

        1st base wasn’t open that time. When this team is hitting with ALR the whole 2-5 is dangerous.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:42 PM

        Isn’t that nice!

  51. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    LaBlammo….woooooooo

  52. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:37 PM

    OK Fister you have a lead stay tough.

  53. Danny - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    Frandsen is all about rolling up 2..

    • David Proctor - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:39 PM

      He’s basically an infield Scott Hairston. He should never start against RHP. He did okay against them early on, but he’s regressing big-time to his career splits.

      • jd - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:45 PM

        Frandsen doesn’t do anything for me. I think Hairston is a much more dangerous hitter.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM

      Hits the ball hard, just to much at a fielder

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM

        Yeah. Mop up duty only.

  54. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:39 PM

    Nice inning. But if I may, because you know I must. The two guys filling in today have both had inning killing awful ABs and grounded in to DPs. Please put our best guys in please. Go Nats

    • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM

      Supposedly Desi is stiffened up after the rain delay.

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:48 PM

        Ok, very good. Thanks.

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:52 PM

        I once got a Viagra caught in my throat. Had a stiff neck ALL day.

      • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:00 PM

        I use Cialis for when I need it.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM

        that’s called “Rode hard and put away wet.”

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM

      Ian hasn’t had a day off all season doesn’t seem unreasonable for a day off.

      Also Fister has pitching more with Lobaton, with day game after night game. That too doesn’t seem unreasonable.

  55. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:49 PM

    Danny has done a better job since zim is back.

  56. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:50 PM

    Why does Lobaton show the emotion of a 7 th grader when he doesn’t hit it?

  57. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    No way Jose. Just an automatic out. Where is Zuki? I know Minn

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      He is for calling a game. A hit is a bonus.

    • Danny - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      He has pretty solid stats for a backup catcher.

    • lowstrikes - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:57 PM

      Yes, and complete garbage at-bat by Span. Where is Nyger? I know: Minors.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM

        Nyjer

  58. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Fish leading in the 6th. Getting tired of these guys

  59. veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Another solid outing by Fister. Well done.

    • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM

      One more inning from him hopefully

      • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:06 PM

        I doubt it. We’ll see.

  60. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Nats can’t let. Get a few more runs here.

    • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM

      Any idea Mayberry’s numbers against us? Whenever I see him play, he has done well.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:06 PM

        He has a very good slugging % against the Nats. Thru last night: .243/.313/.452/.765

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM

        Thanks! Not terrible numbers.

    • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:05 PM

      Yes we do. Malox time

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM

        I can’t believe Kendrick is still pitching.

  61. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Clipp in 8 th?? There goes my appetite. Let’s get some runs

    • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

      Can’t believe our bats went cold

  62. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Everybody just trying to hit a bomb here?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM

      Yah, they were smelling it on Kendrick and the aggressive swings turned into easy outs.

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM

        Eating dinner. Who pitched the 8 th?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM

        De Fratus for the Phoolies

      • secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM

        Who pitched 8 th for Nats

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM

        Clippard made quick work of them

  63. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Fister’s ERA down to 3.19

    • veejh - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:18 PM

      Stupid A’s

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:20 PM

        The A’s hit him hard but what a comeback from Fister. He looks as good as any pitcher on the Nats staff. It’s results not necessarily stacking up K’s or hitting 96 on the radar gun.

  64. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    My first born for a 1 2 3 9 th. I already have a little heartburn

  65. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Thanks for coming out Jose. Ooooooof

  66. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    SAFE

  67. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    Did Lobaton’s toe get the front of the bag? Is it conclusive?

    • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM

      It took a while then FP started hedging his bet wondering the same thing.

  68. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    Gios got the call. SAFE

  69. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    That replay sure took a lot longer than one would have guessed.

    • nats128 - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:33 PM

      Funny when FP started hedging his bet because of the foot wasnt conclusively on the base. I’m very suprized they called him safe.

  70. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Loyd Dobbler to pinch hit? How about McHit?

  71. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Going for Hairston over Dobbs. The only reason he is on the team is to pinch hit against lefties late.

  72. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Scottie up put in on the board.3 run shot here

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:37 PM

      None of the pitches were in position or mistake enough for homer.

  73. secretwasianman - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    Soriano. Going swimming. Bring it in boys

  74. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Weak effort against a lefty. He used to tear Sean Burnett, and Mike Gonzalez up.

  75. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Well,now. Utley, Howard, and Mayberry vs. Soriano.
    Bartender, can we get a round here?

    • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

      Tucking it up here boss.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:42 PM

        Ponche Soriano

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:44 PM

        Untucked.

  76. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    McField now in left.

  77. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    First save opportunity in 11 days

  78. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    Has Frandsen had a play today?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM

      1

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:43 PM

        4 balls into LF and 2 were clean hits and 1 was a HR and 1 was caught by RZim. RZim definitely playing deeper than a typical LF.

  79. Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Raffy is tempting fate.

    • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:43 PM

      Howso?

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:44 PM

        YOWSA!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:44 PM

      He has to make our blood pressure go up.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM

        That is mild. But so far excellent season.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM

        I was tucked.

      • Sec 3 My Sofa - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM

        The Nervous Insider…

  80. manassasnatsfan - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Starting pitching great last 6 games

  81. Section 222 - Jun 5, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Just got home in time to see a picture perfect 9th from Sori. Clean and two Ks. UNTUCK baby!

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