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On deadline day, Nats have decisions to make

Jul 31, 2014, 6:00 AM EDT

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In five years now as general manager of the Nationals, Mike Rizzo has approached all trade discussions with an underlying philosophy: Any move made must be in this team’s best interests not only in the short-term but especially in the long-term.

That philosophy has served the Nationals well, allowing them to slowly assemble a roster and an organization built to sustain success well beyond the immediate future. But does there come a point when long-term ramifications have to take a back seat to short-term opportunities?

That’s among the questions Rizzo is facing today as the 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline approaches. The Nationals, though assembled well enough to lead the NL East two-thirds of the way into the season, do have a few obvious areas of need, areas that if bolstered would put this franchise in better position to win the World Series this October.

The biggest needs: 1) A second or third baseman who can provide more of an offensive threat than Danny Espinosa while Ryan Zimmerman recovers from a hamstring injury that more and more looks like it will keep the Face of the Franchise sidelined well into September, and 2) Another quality reliever who could take over some key innings from a talented-but-overworked bullpen down the stretch.

Either would help a Nationals club that looked a bit worn down over the last week, but either also could come at a price in the form of prospects traded away or salary taken on for not only the rest of this season but for future seasons.

Among the infielders whose names have been brought up: the Diamondbacks’ Martin Prado (owed about $25 million through 2016) and Aaron Hill (owed about $27 million through 2016), plus the Rangers’ Adrian Beltre (owed about $24 million through 2015, though Texas’ desire to trade him seems minimal).

There are lesser, more affordable names out there — Asdrubal Cabrera, Emilio Bonifacio — but whether those options would be better than what the Nationals already have is up for debate.

Manager Matt Williams made his case for sticking with what has gotten his team to this point, noting Espinosa has played the bulk of the season for a first-place club. (The Nats’ record when Espinosa starts is 39-33. It’s 19-14 when he doesn’t.)

“We are where we’re at, and we’ve got a chance,” Williams said. “He’s helped us have that chance. Whether it’s Danny, [Kevin Frandsen] or [Zach Walters], or a combination of all three … That’s part of the process you have to go through. If [no trade] happens, that’s the way we’ve played the majority of the season anyway. So everybody would be comfortable with it. We still have to do things right and wins games.”

The bullpen question may not be as complicated. Rafael Soriano, Drew Storen and Tyler Clippard all have been given days off in the last week due to overuse, including Soriano getting two consecutive days off in the wake of his blown save Monday night. Aaron Barrett and Jerry Blevins, meanwhile, have fallen into ruts, leaving Williams shorthanded in several big spots during the just-completed road trip.

Another quality reliever, whether right-handed or left-handed, would take some of the pressure off those guys. It also would allow the Nationals to send Barrett (who has never thrown this much in his career) to Class AAA Syracuse for a month to work on some things and then return once rosters expand in September.

Again, though, what price is Rizzo willing to pay for such an acquisition? Would he give up one of his top 10 prospects for a 2-month bullpen rental?

“We’ve just got to wait and see what happens,” Williams said. “There are some guys that are out there, there are some guys we’ve taken a hard look at. We’ll see how it goes. Right now, we don’t have anything concrete.”

The Nationals have until 4 p.m. EDT to make a move, though recent history has shown Rizzo doesn’t exactly treat this as a hard deadline. He has made waiver-trade deals each of the last two Augusts, acquiring Kurt Suzuki in 2012 and David DeJesus in 2013. Perhaps a more-palatable offer will come his way once the frenzy of July 31 recedes.

“There’s nothing that we’ve decided on yet,” Williams said. “Things could change drastically over the next 24 hours. I’ve been talking to him every day, and he’s been extremely busy and speaking with a number of people around the league about potentials. We’ll see what happens. It always comes down to the 11th hour anyway. All of those frying pans are going right now, and we’ll see if we can come up with anything.”

Ultimately, the question facing Rizzo is the same one he has faced before: Does the short-term opportunity to win supersede the long-term attempt to field a contender?

For the first time in his 5-year tenure, Rizzo might feel compelled to say yes.

365 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. unterp - Jul 31, 2014 at 6:25 AM

    go for it! No guarantees tomorrow…

    • nmuys - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:25 PM

      Looks like they traded Walters for Cabrera from Cleveland. Nice deal.

  2. ArVAFan - Jul 31, 2014 at 6:41 AM

    Watched the video of the Dodgers’ walk-off last night. Vin said that “the Braves must be depressed” after the loss. We can only hope they play that way, Vin: from your mouth to the baseball gods’ ears.

    See you all at the Park tonight–GYFNG!

  3. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    I put more faith in Kershaw than in the Barves being depressed. They knew they were in for a rough go in this series, and are probably already looking forward to a fun time in San Diego, where they’ll see Eric Stults and his 3-13 W/L and 5.22 ERA (they beat him on the 27th).

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:53 AM

      They also get Tyson Ross on Sunday, though. And the Braves’ best starter, Teheran, will hopefully be “wasted” with the matchup against Kershaw tonight. and won’t go in Also the Padres have been playing much better baseball over the last two weeks, as the Cardinals can attest. Finally, they’ll be on the road of course, in the middle of a west coast trip. I don’t think it will be a cakewalk in San Diego for the Braves.

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:59 AM

        “Wont go in San Diego,” that should say.

        Also it looks like the Nats would duck Teheran in Atlanta too. I started to count out our rotation to see who would be starting that series, but then I realized the rotation is so good 1-5 that it doesn’t really matter one way or the other.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:17 PM

        +1

  4. MicheleS - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    The Window is NOW and next year, Rizzo has to go for it, if they don’t upgrade 2B/3B, I will be really unhappy. They need a bat to take Ryan’s place.

  5. Nats fool - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    Without offensive help, getting to the WS is virtually nil. We don’t have an ace like Kershaw. We need to put offensive pressure from 1 to 8. With perhaps the worst hitter in the MLB at second, we will be throwing in the towel. Given 2012, Rizzo seems fine with that.

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:14 AM

      Once you get into the playoffs anything is possible.

    • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:33 AM

      Our Ace isn’t half-bad. Hat tip to Quick Pitch…

      • ArVAFan - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:52 AM

        Thanks for that link. Maybe Mark will do a story about Tanner’s first year in the Bigs. Like so much else in baseball, you just never know.

      • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:57 AM

        I knew where you were going with this but you cant put Roark into the #1 spot even though almost every stat says he is. I think that is for Doug Fister.

        I still dont get the gap in WAR looking at that chart other than valuing K/9 over other outs on balls put in play.

        Last night Greinke and Wood pitched 1 run baseball and the game was lost in the bullpen. Thats how you beat Kershaw. Thats the only way to beat Kershaw. You have to pitch as well as him run for run. If he throws a shutout you throw a shutout.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:44 AM

        Oh, I’m not putting Roark as the No. 1 starter in the playoffs (should we get there). In fact, I might put him in the bullpen, as I have every confidence he can rescue any flagging starter. But there are two months to go. We’ll see.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:57 AM

        Yes, Roark. By wins and ERA he is in the top ten for the last calendar year. Quick Pitch showed that on TV, so I went from there.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:00 AM

        @128, a pitcher like Roark will always get downplayed by WAR because WAR goes by FIP and FIP values high strikeouts–and low walks and homers–as what the pitcher can “control.”

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:07 AM

        Innings pitched also drags down Roark’s ERA as compared with many of the other top starters on those lists. A low ERA over 220 innings is worth much more than a low ERA over 180 innings. Notice that Cueto’s WAR is similarly dragged down by his relatively low IP. And Kershaw would probably be even further clear of the field if he had those extra 40 innings.

      • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM

        ERA leaders over the calendar year — Kershaw, Cueto, Greinke, Roark, Wainwright, Lester, Hamels, Sale, Gray, King Felix. That’s august company indeed.

        If you sort in reverse order the other way (which I did by accident and almost had a heart attack), Edwin Jackson is No. 1.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:43 AM

      The 2013 Red Sox had a hole in their lineup at 3B just as bad as the Nats’ 2B situation and their ace would have a hard time cracking the 2014 Nats’ playoff rotation. Worked out OK for them.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        They were very, very lucky. I’d rather have a better hedge than luck, or at least more of a hedge.

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        They won 97 games and had the best run differential in the league. They were very very good.

        Sure, luck was on their side in the playoffs, but if you think you’re winning a championship without a bit of luck on your side, I’ve got some bad news for you :)

  6. nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:12 AM

    Wake up to Nats in 1st Place by 1 1/2 games. Thanks Dodgers. Dodgers are 100% healthy. There success is also tied into health.

  7. Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:41 AM

    Going to be interesting not only as to what Rizzo does, but also on how the fans here handle whatever he does.No helpful trade is going to happen without paying a king’s ransom.

  8. laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:43 AM

    The Nats left town as the best team in baseball, but come back without one of their marquee players. Their bull pen also looked to be the best, or among the best, and they come back with their reputation somewhat tarnished. Yet, they could easily have gone 6 – 3 on that trip, which would have been great. Instead they eked out a 5 – 4 record, which is still good.

    I think the Braves were looking forward to that stretch thinking they could catch the Nats, but they didn’t.

    Matt appears to have decided to go with Espinosa’s weak LH bat at 2nd. He gave Walters one day as the starter, and that’s been it. No platoon there. For whatever reason, they appear to be going with Danny, full time, unless Rizzo can swing a deal by this afternoon.

    If the Nats have confirmed the worst reports about Zim, I missed it, but the whole league has heard the reports, so Rizzo is dealing from a weak hand. If the reports are true, they are going to have to do it without Zim for the rest of the year. Zim’s loss seems to have deflated the team, but if Mike can pull a rabbit out of his hat, he could re-energize the old bunny. If Mike can’t get Beltre, or Castro, or Murphy at a reasonable cost, then the rest of the team has to step up.

    La Roche typically plays his best in August. Desmond has been dreadful since being moved to the 5-hole, but delivered a key hit yesterday. Those 2 guys have got to come through. Span has been at his best since becoming a Nat, Rendon is steady, Werth clutch, and Harper is coming on.

    It won’t be easy, but they can do it. Their rotation is lights out. Pitching and defense can get them most of the way there, but they need enough offense to turn those 1 – 0 losses into 2 – 1 wins. I don’t know where the power went, but this team has all the tools to play small ball and win that kind of game.

    They did, yesterday, with aggressive base running by Span playing a key role in producing that first inning run. In the 8th, Hairston had a hustle double to lead off. Span beat out a bunt to 3rd and then stole 2nd. After Werth’s sac fly and McClouth’s speed got the go-ahead run. La Roche walked and then stole 2nd. I don’t know if La Roche scores from 1b on Desi’s double, but it didn’t matter. He made it home easily from 2nd.

    That is smart, aggressive base running at its best, and they needed every one of those 4 runs to eke out a 1-run win. Just like Mike drew it up in ST.

    Gio looked great against the Reds. Let’s get him the win, this time, against the Phils. A long ball would be nice, but they have shown that they know how to win without it, if they have to,

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:51 AM

      Span-Rendon-Werth-Laroche-RZ-Desi-Harp-Ramos-Ace

      That was fun and it didnt last long with that RZ in the #5. Im hoping for Beltre to fill in that spot.

  9. thelatencn - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    No doubt Mark is correct to say the Rangers are reluctant to trade Beltre. But if Beltre himself has anything to say about it, he could be chomping at the bit to get traded to the Nats. Right now he’s borderline HOF, and needs a big post-season to get over the top. At 35 he’s running out of time.

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:00 AM

      +1 That should be a no brainer for the Rangers. They are on the curve down even when they get back Prince Fielder next year. The Nats just freed up big payroll they could spend next year on Free Agents. They need pitching to go with Darvish and the Nats can trade them that in AJ Cole.

      • therealjohnc - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:20 AM

        I suspect that the Rangers believe that they are still contenders, that this year was a mulligan due to injury. They are committed (big time – thank goodness Rizzo didn’t listen to many commenters on THAT score!) to Fielder, and the time to cash in on that is the next two years while Beltre is still something approximating Beltre. Not only would I be surprised if they dealt Beltre for anything short of Giolito plus a couple mid-level prospects, I suspect that their fans would be outraged.

        I’d love to see Beltre in a Curly W hat, but it’s not going to happen.

  10. karlkolchak - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    I can’t believe that Hill and Prado would even be considered serious options given the lousy seasons they are having and the money they are still over. The former’s brWAR stand sat an astoundingly bad -0.6. Beltre is about the only possibly available infielder who would be the kind of significant upgrade worth adding. And as for adding a reliever for a Top 10 prospect, we have a few top 10 prospects who have also beenunderwheming. Losing Goodwin or Skole in a change of scenery move for a decent middle reliever would not bother me at this point.

    • karlkolchak - Jul 31, 2014 at 7:55 AM

      Crap: “Owed” not “over.”

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:05 AM

      Everyone is looking for there Marco Scutaro pickup. Change of scenery to go onto a contender often gets players back to there highest level of performance.

      On the salary, thats a huge issue. Good news is they are salary dumps. To me tho, there is 4 players I want before them.

      If the Yankees fall far enough out in August could the Nats scoop up Chase Headley?????

  11. mrnat7 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    What this team needs more than anything is a big bopper. A guy you can count on for 35-40 HRs. We haven’t had someone like that since Adam Dunn. I know Adam struck out a lot but we still have a bunch who strike out but hit with very little power. Why can’t Rizzo find one of these guys? Baltimore found one last year in Davis and Cruz is doing well this year!

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:08 AM

      They can but the Nats are a NL team. The big boppers all seem to play lousy defense. If the Nats got Adam Dunn he would be a pinch hitter only. That isnt worth it unless you wait until August 31 to add someone like him and wait for rosters to expand where he could be a player you could bat once per game. Cant afford a roster spot on July 31 to a player like that. Also would have to clear 40 man room.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:46 AM

      Only five players hit 35+ HRs last year. They don’t exactly grow on trees.

  12. Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:06 AM

    Brian Goodwin is approaching bust status, in my opinion. Not sure that he’d fetch anything of value at this point.

  13. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:09 AM

    7 hours 50 minutes left in the trade deadline.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:19 AM

      Braves’ media are openly lobbying for Miller. Wouldn’t look bad in our pen.

  14. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    There’s the Daniel Murphy rumor I gave you yesterday.

    “@Ken_Rosenthal: #Nationals need IFer with Zimmerman out. Have discussed A. Cabrera, D. Murphy internally, but no deal close, sources tell me and @jonmorosi.”

    • nats128 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:30 AM

      Once again you prove to be a true insider. Beating Ken Rosenthal to that one has to make you feel good

    • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:36 AM

      No one is talking about Castro. Of course, no one was talking about Fister, last winter, either.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:46 AM

        They have 8 names now which includes shortstops to move to 3rd or 2nd.

        Asdrubal is up there. Hill is near the bottom of list.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:48 AM

        We talked about Castro a lot several threads ago. I voted against because he makes a lot of mistakes and we can’t afford that this year. He may grow out of it, as Desi did, but this isn’t the season for us to take on “projects.” I could be wrong. I’ve been wrong before…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:51 AM

        Yes and I discussed that in my first post but I disagree NatsLady as he will play a less demanding position in 3rd most likely.

        Thunk Machado.

      • pdowdy83 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:59 AM

        The other thing to keep in mind is Beltre, Castro, Cabrera, Prado and Hill would all be available in August as well due to the money they are owed. I would have to believe all of those players would easily clear waivers. I hope people keep that in mind if nothing happens before 4p.m. today.

  15. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:46 AM

    OK, folks. Put your vote where your mouth is. Will Mike make a trade by 4 pm? VOTE HERE>>>> (upper right corner).

    • scmargenau - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:10 AM

      Can’t see it on iPad

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:49 AM

        Thanks for letting me know that. I’ll see if there is another way to put the poll up there next time I do one.

    • janebeard - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:44 AM

      Didn’t see where the voting was. I vote no. But I hope yes.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:48 AM

        Put your mouse in the upper right corner and a poll will pop out. I don’t know another way to do it, although I suspect there is. If you can’t vote, I’ll put your vote it, since I don’t vote… ;)

  16. pdowdy83 - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:53 AM

    I would be all for Adrian Beltre. I think I would be fine with whatever it cost in prospects to get him. He is a legit bat and a really good fielder. I also would be pretty happy with Ben Zobrist, Daniel Murphy or Martin Prado. The others are pretty meh to me. I know Prado is having a down year but August has been his strongest month in his career with a .321/.366/.489 slash line over 630 career appearances AND he plays solid defense at multiple positions and would be a nice piece to give the team a bit of flexibility. He can play LF/3B/2B and even has experience at 1st and SS (limited). If he doesn’t cost an arm and a leg prospect wise I think he would be a nice fit. Sometimes getting out of a negative place and put into a pennant race can really light a fire under a player (see Scutaro, Marco)

    • scnatsfan - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:04 AM

      You OK with Giolito going?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        Can’t trade Giolito

      • pdowdy83 - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:20 AM

        I stand corrected. Anyone but Giolito.

    • scmargenau - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:05 AM

      I agree. Although I also like Murphy…we could use his bat and save Danny for late inning DR

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:07 AM

        Exactly how that would play out IF that trade happened. Doubtful.

  17. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 8:57 AM

    “@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Nationals have expressed interest in #Mets’ Murphy as well as #Indians’ Cabrera. Deal for Murphy considered a longshot.”

  18. exposedindc - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Really think the Nats need to pick up a Prado type player if for no other reason, what if Desi or Rendon have injury issues then we are looking at Espi and Walters in the same lineup….not a good scenario

    • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:11 AM

      Agreed. Very thin..

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:22 AM

      That was my point even before the RZim injury in a Chase Headley pickup.

  19. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    Barves are banged up too. Jason Heyward (back) probably won’t play and I just saw this.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:32 AM

      They’re due. Position players for them have been healthy all year. Heyward is back this weekend. Simmons would be the bigger worry for them if his shoulder started to give him problems

    • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

      Barves announcers were talking about this last night. Of course he promptly threw a rocket to first.

  20. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:20 AM

    Asdrubal has a .305 OBP Was even worse in 2013

    I don’t see him as an upgrade.

    • pdowdy83 - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:22 AM

      And he isn’t very good with the glove. I don’t see him as being worth even a B level prospect. Only way I’m ok with him is if it is a total salary dump on Cleveland’s part.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:26 AM

        Agreed. He’s an upgrade over Espi but lets face it, that’s not hard to do with the bat.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:29 AM

      He has a .692 OPS this season and had a .700 OPS last season. That’s pretty clearly an upgrade from Espinosa’s .629 (.465 last season). And he was an all-star caliber talent before that- maybe switching leagues will allow him to get away from pitchers who figured him out and give him a boost.

      He also is a switch-hitter with pretty even splits, which gives them a lot more middle infield flexibility. Espinosa could still play against lefties, giving them a composite 2B with maybe a .750 OPS. Espinosa could also be a defensive substitution.

      I wouldn’t trade away too much to get him, but he’d definitely be a welcome addition to the roster.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:39 AM

        I see him as another swing for the fence guy. Hill and Prado are contact guys playing in cavernous ballparks.

        Like I said, Asdrubal is an upgrade over Espi and that’s what the list of 8 is.

        There’s a reason those names were floated was to let the other GMs know that Rizzo has options.

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:44 AM

        I agree- although Hill and Prado are signed through 2016 and Cabrera’s a free agent after this season, so they’re totally different situations.

        I’d love to get Prado if they can get him without giving up too much, but I’m not sure the Dbacks would be willing to admit defeat on the Upton trade so easily even if it’s the right move.

        Hill would be an absolute nightmare. Paying a 32 year old in steep decline $12 million a year for the next two seasons is not how you solidify your contender status for 2015 and 2016. Unless the Dbacks are willing to pay a significant % of his salary and don’t demand any impact prospects in return it seems like a terrible idea.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:46 AM

        I’d be happy with Cabral if we don’t give up much. I’d be very happy with Prado, too. After that, the choices are not great. (I assume Murphy isn’t available at a reasonable price.)

        How about Tony Sipp for the bullpen?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:47 AM

        Bowden, again, Rizzo isn’t that stupid. He will require cash for any of the overpaid guys.

  21. Drew - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:24 AM

    I would be inclined to deal, given the talent blocked at Syracuse, ie Souza, Moore. A Prado or Hill and a reliever would greatly strengthen the club.

    Course, the question is whether you can get value without surrendering Taylor, Skole or Ward. (Giolito and Cole are untouchable with the contract uncertainty of J. Zimmn and Fister.)

    Given Rizzo’s willingness to deal young arms — Ray, Karns, Meyer, Cole, Peacock — I hope Voth isn’t on the move.

  22. scnatsfan - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    I would love Prado but, for a utility guy (even if he plays a bunch) that’s millions I would rather spend on extensions for Desi and/or JZim

    • janebeard - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:45 AM

      I agree.

  23. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:45 AM

    Lester to the As?

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:54 AM

      With Gomes for Cespedes.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:56 AM

      In duck – hunting parlance Oakland has “Dumped the gun.” No more shells to fire.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM

        They aren’t done. They are now looking to trade 2 starters for a stud outfielder.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM

      Just glad it wasn’t the Dodgers .

      The trade proposed for weeks was Kemp + Pederson for Lester.

      Now Kemp is looking hitterish.

    • janebeard - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:45 AM

      MAN are they going for it!

    • tcostant - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:00 AM

      Interesting thing about Cespedes is he is free agent in 2015, the A’s landed him by giving him a 4 year path to free agency. I love guys who bet on themselves…

  24. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:57 AM

    Now that this happened will spur on other trades.

    “@JeffPassan: Final full trade: Jon Lester, Jonny Gomes and $ to Oakland for Yoenis Cespedes and the second pick in the competitive balance Comp B round.”

  25. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 31, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Hot dang Oakland…. Hot dang….

    • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM

      Billy Beane wanting him a ring. Hammels didn’t work out, on to the next guy. Poor Tommy Milone, he may never see the majors til September.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:07 AM

        *Hammel, Jason
        Not to be confused with Colbert Hamels. Billy probably tried for him, too.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

        It will be a shame… if they don’t beat the Tigers… again this year…

        BB is definitely going all in…

  26. TimDz - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    It’s official….Oakland is going all in…..

  27. stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:11 AM

    Trying to picture Cespedes dealing with The Green Monster here. Having difficulty.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:22 AM

      Doesn’t this weaken Oakland’s outfield a bit? I’m not sure this is a big win for Oakland.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:30 AM

        Oh, no. I think it’s a super deal for the Red Sox…but it won’t be without challenges, especially defensively. They also hope Cespedes won’t be one of those guys who screws up his swing trying to clear TGM every pitch.

    • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:30 AM

      If Manny can deal with the Green Monster, I’m sure Cespedes can. Now, if you’re talking about Cespedes hitting homers over the Green Monster, I do believe he can do that too. Wow!!

    • RPrecupjr - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM

      I’m enjoying picturing him hitting off and over the Green Monster, no difficulty (on my fantasy team, otherwise I wouldn’t really care)

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:45 AM

        Everyone is looking forward to seeing it. Not saying it will, but sometimes those expectations bring the opposite consequences in baseball. I think he will likely be fine, but also wouldn’t be surprised if he struggles for a bit.

  28. bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    Any chance Cliff Lee moves before tonight’s game? That would be a nice deadline deal boost for the Nats that wouldn’t cost them a prospect or a single dime.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:25 AM

      Unlikely. I raised this question here about 10 days ago. Lee’s been pretty weak in his two starts since coming off the disabled list (although his numbers for the year are pretty good), so I don’t think the Phillies would get much for him. In any event, with his contract, he could be traded in August by going through waivers, if he shows he’s still got it.

      So I think the Nats are going to see both Lee and Hamels this series, unfortunately.

      The good news is that Danny Espinosa owns Cliff Lee.

      • tcostant - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:03 AM

        Lee might be moved after today and before 8/31, as no one will dare put a claim in and risk getting stuck with that contract.

  29. Drew - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    I know Beane says his “stuff” doesn’t work in October, but I can’t believe he dealt Cespedes in order to rent Jawny Lestah, who says openly that he wants to re-sign with the Sawx and pahk his cah in Hahvad Yahd.

    • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      I know! That’s a huge price for a rental. So the A’s rotation is now Lester, Gray, Samardzj, Kazmir and Hammel. That’s formidable. I think Billy is tired of being knocked out by the Tigers.

      • therealjohnc - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:02 AM

        Remember that Cespedes has an out clause in his contract – he can elect free agency after four years. Which means that the trade is one season + two months of Cespedes for two months of Lester and Gomes. It’s an “all in” move, but it’s not hurting the A’s long term as much becuse with their payroll limits Cespedes was gone after next year anyway.

      • tcostant - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        That is exactly correct, one of the ways the A’s got Cespedes was with a path to free agency after four years.

      • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        Good point trjohnc. So not quite the steal for the Red Sox that I thought.

  30. unterp - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    I’ll say it then, but of course it would come with a condition and since this condition is only fantasy, I would trade Giolito if it meant the Nats win the 2014 WS…

    • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:32 AM

      “Let’s have lunch.”
      /satan

      • unterp - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:12 AM

        I would say okay, but I fear for my soul…LOL

      • adcwonk - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:47 AM

        “Let’s have lunch.”
        /satan

        Made me laugh out loud! Good one!

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:34 AM

      I think maybe Billy Beane just sealed the deal for the A’s.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:44 AM

        Losing Cespedes is big. Pitching improved. Now lets see if he can trade Hammel and Milone for a good outfielder.

      • therealjohnc - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:06 AM

        There is no such thing as “seal the deal” in baseball. Remember in 2011 when the Phillies added Roy Oswalt to Halladay/Lee/Hamels to create the “Four Aces” rotation? They won 103 games – and got bounced in the NLDS. Didn’t even make it to the NLCS.

        The 2001 Seattle Mariners won 116 games … and lost in the ALCS.

        Heck, the A’s have a fight on their hands to win the AL West. They A’s could easily find themselves in a “one and done” wild card game and get beat by some Bucky Dent/Buddy Biancalana type. Baseball.

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:13 AM

        therealjohn,

        Exactly right. If you are betting Oakland A’s against the field I still take the field. What BB has done is he has improved his team’s chances to win the division, not much more than that.

  31. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:37 AM

    Remember what I said. Looking to Cincy, Miami, Pitt, StL and LA Dodgers.

    “Ghost of Steve M. on July 31, 2014 at 10:05 am
    They aren’t done. They are now looking to trade 2 starters for a stud outfielder”

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM

      “@Ken_Rosenthal: As others have noted, #Athletics positioned for more. Milone certainly expendable, and maybe Hammel, too. #Marlins have asked about Milone.”

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:54 AM

      Tommy Milone to the Twins. The Gio trade keeps giving.

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:03 AM

        Really? Are you guessing or did it happen? I can’t keep up and got stuff to do! Back in a while.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:10 AM

        The guess is who could help in a 3 team trade. I’m thinking Houston with Cosart and that’s my guess.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:11 AM

        Danny Espinosa could be on the move in a few scenarios.

  32. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    So this team was based on balance where anyone can carry the team. And it is true but it would be nice to have a few more HRs. Right now, the team leader in SB (Span – 20) has 3 more than the team leader in HR (Desi – 17).

    Granted there have been injuries but I think we need more power.

  33. Drew - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    Does Beane like apples?

    Boston got Cespedes.

    How do you like them apples?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:46 AM

      Great trade by Boston. Lester was going to be an FA after the season. Now they got Cespedes.

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

        +1

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        Long term, yes, it will probably work out for Boston. Lester seriously may end up back with them before spring training. Cespedes is a terrific player, but does have a bit of a reputation as being a pain in the ass.We’ll see if this, and another possible trade for an outfielder, puts Oakland over the top to win it all. There are a lot of new players getting adjusted to new surroundings.Exciting trade!

  34. #4 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    One thing I’ve been thinking — we’ve all been focusing on which prospects the Nats should or shouldn’t give up in an effort to land a bat. This Cespedes trade made me realize perhaps Rizzo might do soemthing similar to Beane’s move. Maybe he’ll trade one of his established players for a bigger bat. For instance, would you trade Desi for Beltre and play Espi at SS, and Rendon at 2B? That would be an overall upgrade to the line-up at least offensively. It’s a lot easier to carry a weak bat at SS than at 2B.

    They’re probably not going to trade Desi who is seen as the leader of the team, but….. there are questions about whetehr they will ever be able to sign him to an extension.

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:50 AM

      I had a strange feeling after reading Ian’s quote after yesterday’s win. It was a long the lines of: “This is a hard time for some of us, but you have to continue to do the little things.”

      Kind of an ominous statement. If he referencing himself, I sure hope we get his weight in gold in return.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:53 AM

        Man, that is reading far beyond things. They aren’t trading Ian.

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:58 AM

        Yeah, I agree, just going off #4’s comment.

        Regardless, it was an ominous comment that to me suggests maybe some erstwhile core players are up in the air.

    • natsjackinfl - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:50 AM

      I was just thinking that same thing.

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        And then make an off-season move to Tulo?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:11 PM

        “@IanDesmond20: Thinking about my boy @EthanBrown65, my prayers are up for ya kid. Love ya.”

    • raleighnat - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM

      This may be crazy, but if Cole is ready would trading Jordan Zimmermann for Beltre make sense???? Thinking trading from depth….

  35. janebeard - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    I know they will get the best they can get, or avoid a trade now. I know that intellectually. In my heart, I want Danny Murphy.

  36. stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Wonder if Tommy Milone would play as a LH reliever back in DC?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:55 AM

      Traded to the Twins.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:56 AM

        Man! Blink once and you miss it!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:56 AM

        Yah, chips falling every where.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:00 AM

        Is The Hammer on the other end of this deal?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:01 AM

        I think Fuld

  37. knoxvillenat - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    “Now that this happened will spur on other trades.

    “@JeffPassan: Final full trade: Jon Lester, Jonny Gomes and $ to Oakland for Yoenis Cespedes and the second pick in the competitive balance Comp B round.””

    I didn’t think MLB allowed a team to trade draft picks?

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:03 AM

      I think competitive balance picks are the only picks that can be traded.

  38. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    Nats are closing in on a deal of their own.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:01 AM

      Will we like the trade?

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:01 AM

      I’m very excited/nervous about it. First time I’ve ever paid a lick of attention to the trade deadline, and it’s utterly fascinating and captivating. The status of our season and the situation with Zimm certainly add to that.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:03 AM

        Rizzo trying for a 3 team trade. Those take time. It better be for Beltre or Castro or Utley. All others are so-so.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:04 AM

        +1
        Fun stuff. On the edge of my seat here!

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:07 AM

        Three team trade?

        ::: rapid-fire stomping :::
        Oh boy oh boy oh boy what IS it?!

      • Smyrcok - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:13 AM

        Agreed Eric. More nerve racking than the winter meetings hot stove, but exciting nonetheless.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:02 AM

      That is what I am waiting to hear…

    • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:43 AM

      “Nats are closing in on a deal of their own.”

      Not surprised, Ghost, if he has 8 irons in the fire, as you posted earlier. He is working it, and will go with the best deal at the least cost to the Nats. Didn’t he get Roark for Guzman? Or was it Jason Marquis? Anyway, only Billy Beane does it better.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:51 AM

        Roark for Guzy as part of that deal. Unreal.

      • therealjohnc - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:59 AM

        Rizzo got Zach Walters for Jason Marquis

  39. Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    Who knows what the Nats will do. If Beane will trade Cespedes, maybe the Nats do package a frontline player in a trade. Is Harper untouchable?

    [Just poking the bear here].

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      Yes.

      [don't poke the bear on trade deadline day!]

    • tcostant - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      Harper is untouchable unless Stanton is coming here in the deal…

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      Harper for Giancarlo?

    • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:08 AM

      Cespedes is a FA after next year, Harper is under team control for a long time. A better comparison would be Desi

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:13 AM

        Marlins would not go for that deal. I think they might go for Harper for Stanton. Granted, it would be a gutsy call but Harper is still somewhat underdeveloped. Stanton has proven his power and put in a better lineup would be a game changer now.

        Just a thought.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:13 AM

        Also, Cespedes turns 30 next year.

        Wonder how old Yasiel Puig really is?

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        Man…getting Stanton would blow my mind.

  40. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    MLB Network confirming Nats and Mets have discussed Murphy, but the Mets are hesitant to trade him unless they get a great offer.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:18 AM

      Espinosa and Souza and Cole + one more is who they want.

      Sounds like too much to me. Yes he hits but not a great defensive player.

      As a 7 inning guy to be replaced by Espinosa works.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        Agreed. I don’t give up Cole in that one. Also, who is the backup SS if we get Murphy and give up Espinosa?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:27 AM

        Exactly. Can’t do that deal and Murphy just isn’t the full package.

        It was a head scratcher when I posted it up yesterday.

      • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:45 AM

        They’re dreaming.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:54 AM

        Ask away. I think it has to be Beltre, Castro or Utley or step back and wait.

        I like Murphy if Nats retain Espinosa but wouldnt give up much more than Souza and Voth.

  41. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Tommy got his wish – Tommy to Twins

    And BB makes another move!

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:11 AM

      Odd move. A’s cut Fuld earlier this year, now trade an almost decent pitcher to get him back. He has no pop in his bat.

  42. stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:11 AM

    @philliesnation: Do you think the A’s would consider coming back to Philly?

    • adcwonk - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:59 AM

      Man, you’re on a roll today! Good one (again!) !!!

  43. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:12 AM

    I was thinking 3-team trade. We don’t match exactly with any one team.

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:17 AM

      Hmm.., I like you thinking.

      What could we put into a deal? RD, Souza, Voth, Taylor, Cole, Espy?

      Does any part of that get us a decent return?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

      Isn’t that what I responded to you?

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:26 AM

        +1

  44. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Billy Beane ball. They still probably have one more trade to get prospects.

    “@Ken_Rosenthal: Fuld and Gomes in LF for #Athletics. What the A’s do.”

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

      The A’s really need a centerfielder due to injuries.I can’t believe that they won’t go out and get one. If they get one, Burns will probably go back down until Sept.1, though he wasn’t on their 40 man until they brought him up the other day. Beane isn’t done yet, I’ll bet.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:21 AM

        He’s not. He has to trade a starter and most likely Hammel.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM

      “Ghost of Steve M. on July 31, 2014 at 11:03 am

      Rizzo trying for a 3 team trade. Those take time. It better be for Beltre or Castro or Utley. All others are so-so”

  45. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    I was going to say “Good for Tommy.” Then I saw this.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:21 AM

      Dang… Tough breaks…

    • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:21 AM

      Publicly asking for a trade when you’re a soft tossing lefty is not a good move. See Lannan, J.

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:26 AM

        Deuces,

        Agreed. I think Milone is a AAAA pitcher who is destined to be up and down throughout his career.

      • karlkolchak - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:56 AM

        It might be a financial move. If Milone stays down until September 1st, he might lose enough service time to fail to reach arbitration eligibility next year. Saving that couple of million bucks is a big deal to a penny pinching team like the Twins.

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:24 AM

      Sorry to here.

    • zmunchkin - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM

      MLB network reporting they are stashing him there for a few days as he jut pitched. Will be called up soon.

  46. Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    For those of us checking in regularly, but not every two minutes and trying desparately to keep up, please post any breaking news or juicy rumors at the bottom of the thread instead of in responses to other comments. Thanks.

  47. jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    I think we match up ok with the DBacks. Prado for Souza?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:31 AM

      That’s paying too much JD. Souza now has the GMs salivating. He’s moved to top prospect status.

      Prado is a salary dump.

      • pdowdy83 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        Prado would be a Brian Goodwin/Taylor Hill type of trade. A project and a middling prospect to take on that salary.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        It’s too much for him. I guarantee you Rizzo wouldn’t make that deal. Prado for Goodwin, yes + Cutter Dykstra.

  48. jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    Ghost,

    Here’s the thing about Castro. The Cubs need young pitching and I bet they would insist on Cole. I don’t think Jordan, Hill, Treinen are all that exciting to other teams. Do you do Cole for Castro? IDK., we may well need Cole in the rotation if we can’t lock up Zimmermann long term. I think Giolito is a couple of years away and we may need him to fill Stras’s slot of we can’t sign him long term.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:29 AM

      JD, I would definitely do Cole straight up for Castro. I’m sure Epstein wants Souza with him too.

      With that trade you could send them Espinosa.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

      I’d do it Cole for Castro in a minute. (I assume the Nats would have to throw in more, of course.) You may need Cole, as you say, but you’ve just resolved next year’s infield and given yourself a backup for Desi.

  49. stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Looks like another afternoon of sneaking furtive glances at my phone, at work.

  50. micksback1 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    wow, Lester to A’s, Nats luck out with him not going to LA

    why not Espi bat only right handed? what stupid conventional wisdom says it can not be done. Why not, he is comfortable batting right handed, he looks comfortable and unless EVERY right handed pitcher is going to be perfect, why not?? at least give it a shot since a trade is not imminent

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:35 AM

      This has been covered a few times both here and elsewhere. It’s a good question since Victorino had success doing it, but Espi has been switch-hitting since little league. He has no idea what good right-handed pitching looks like from the right side. He might be able to eventually train himself to pick up right-handed pitching from the right side of the plate but it would take months, maybe years. It’s certainly not something he could try in the middle of a pennant race. And even if he was eventually able to do it, he still would be batting same-side so it’s not like he would have the same numbers from the right side that he does against lefties.

      • micksback1 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM

        a good answer and I understand. so has Schu or MW ever pondered this and if they have not, is it because of the reasons you state?

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:45 AM

        IIRC it was addressed by Kilgore in a Nats Journal post during the Davey Johnson/Rick Eckstein era. That’s where I got the info. I’m sure the staff has considered it, but the Nats have been in pennant races ever since Espinosa’s LH production nosedived, and they’ve needed him in a utility/backup role at a minimum for most of that time, so there hasn’t really been a chance to give him the time he would need to work on it.

      • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:51 AM

        “(T)he Nats have been in pennant races ever since Espinosa’s LH production nosedived, and they’ve needed him in a utility/backup role at a minimum for most of that time, so there hasn’t really been a chance to give him the time he would need to work on it.”

        They had their chance when he was in the minors. Danny may have had a solid career in the majors if he had not decided to be a switch hitter. I made that suggestion at the time. Too late now. That train left the station when they called him back up.

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:56 AM

        Except he was decent from the left side in the minors, at least from what I’ve heard and if his 2011 and 2012 numbers in the bigs are any indication. He didn’t really become completely useless from the left side until recently.

      • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:49 PM

        bowdenball, natsfan1a

        I’ve saw and heard all of that stuff after I suggested they try to switch him to a full-time RH approach while he was in the minors. The Nats and Danny had nothing to lose by trying it down there, where he was hitting about .180, anyway.

        Kilgore schmilgore. After being a switch hitter for his entire career, Shane Victorino made that switch in his early 30s, after being a professional switch hitter far longer than Espinosa has, just last year, at about the same time as I was suggesting that Danny do it, too.

        Who are you gonna believe, Kilgore or your lying eyes?

  51. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM

    On a positive note, It seems not signing Burnett and allowing young pitching develop has worked out nicely.

    • micksback1 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:38 AM

      on another positive note, with Lester signing with the A’s and the arbritation ruling against the O’s, Angelos has a had a crappy 24 hours, lol

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:41 AM

        Best news of the day.

      • passedappetizers - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:46 AM

        Well said. I think that in Ted Lerner, Mr. Angelos has finally found someone in baseball who is prepared to tell him to eff off rather than reward his petulance just to keep things within the MLB family. Pretty telling that teh teams went through the arbitration process set forth in the MASN deal and the LOSING side is the one that comes out bitching and moaning that “contracts should be honored.” Angelos is paddling upstream on this one and good for the Lerners for telling Selig to get bent if he suggests the Nats ought to take anything less than their entitled to to appease the crankpot up the the parkway.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        They were never serious about a blockbuster trade. Typical that the Os are “IN” on everyone.

  52. thomaswell - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    Rizzo wont deal before deadline BUT he will trade afterwards. I think Barrett will be optioned down especially if we get another bullpen arm in a trade

    • laddieblahblah - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:54 AM

      Why do you think no deal before the deadline?

      I’m guessing he cuts a deal by 4 pm. I’ll be gone the rest of the afternoon. Have some chores before leaving for the game tonight. Hope I am pleasantly surprised when I get there.

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:55 AM

        Small deal for a RP. nothing more.

  53. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    I am a little surprised that Amaro doesn’t make a bunch of moves. Granted, his chances of saving his job are very low but the Phils need to reset. The BoSox made a tough call a few years back and admitted their mistakes. In the end, they were better off. Amaro make some deals today!

    A few years of rebuilding with younger talent would make sense. Alas, it would be best for the Nats if the just stayed the course. An old team getting older and more expensive.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:05 PM

      Amaro is stubborn. He better not blow this opportunity. AJ Burnett, Utley, and Cliff Lee are not part of their rebuild.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:09 PM

        Heck, even Hamels won’t be part of a rebuild. By the time the Phillies are competitive, Hamels won’t have much left. Wonder if Rollins would be willing to move?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        They are in deep trouble in the short-term. Hamels is the last great asset they have as the others are near-term like Utley.

        They will probably put 10 players on waiver claims.

  54. Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Ok, here’s a question about a waiver/trade deal after the deadline. Say the Rangers want to trade Beltre to the Nats, so they float him on the waiver wire. Another team claims him because they figure “sure, we’d take him for free” and are willing to pay his salary, or they want to block the Nats. So the Rangers pull him back because they don’t want to give him up for nothing. Is that the end of it? No trade possible except to the team who claimed him?

    Also, do the Nats claim him if he gets that far and then try to finalize the deal, or do they have to wait and hope every other team passes?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:03 PM

      Yes, you got it. Someone could claim him and not even make the trade to block the Nats and that’s why the waiver route is risky.

    • therealjohnc - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:09 PM

      The other possibility (which won’t happen with Beltre) is the team that put him on waivers allows him to go to the claiming team. This happens occasionally,when the waiving team is dumping salary. When the Rays tried to get Canseco through waivers in 2000 the Yankees claimed him to block a deal (probably to the Red Sox). The Rays said “fine – you take him.” By all accounts Torre hated having Canseco on the team.

      • Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:28 PM

        Right. That’s why I think all this confidence that Rizzo can do a waiver/deal just because we got Kurt Suzuki that way is misplaced. If a player is good enough that a team is not willing to do a pure salary dump, then they will pull him back and we’re blocked. The players we’ve been talking about are in that category. Assuming we’re still in first place in our division, the Braves would probably be able to block a trade for Utley, Murphy, Beltre, Hill, Castro etc.

        Am I right that if it gets to us, we claim the player and can work out a deal, or do the teams above us have to clear him too?

  55. jmk32 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    Nats really need to trade for a power hitter! It’s the one big missing piece of the offense (and has been since Morse was traded, IMO). The fact that our starting 3 outfielders Werth, Span, Harper) have combined for only like 14 or so home runs this year is absolutely killing us (and I know Harper was out 2 months, but he’s not the same power hitter since he came back and may not be til next year the way he’s going).

    There’s a reason we only had 2 players (pitchers) named to the all star team. We have a solid core, but need a real game changer with a big bat to go the next step, IMO.

    Hope Rizzo doesn’t just stand pat or we won’t go farther than the 1st round again.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:21 PM

      I think you’re looking at the past through some Morse-colored glasses. He had 18 HRs in his final year with the Nats before he was traded. The Nats will end up with 3 or 4 guys who exceed that total this year.

      As I mentioned in a previous post, game-changing power hitters are not available. They don’t even really exist in significant numbers in today’s game. Only 5 guys hit more than 34 HRs last season. Who exactly do you propose that they acquire?

  56. rmoore446 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    The one need I hope is addressed is another Lefty for the bullpen as I have no faith in Blevins. I worry that a frontline infielder would cost too much in prospects. As flawed as he is, I’d rather roll with Espi and the kid.

  57. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Adam Kilgore ‏@AdamKilgoreWP 1m
    Steve Souza just left Class AAA Syracuse’s game … because he got ejected for arguing balls and strikes. Manager Billy Gardner tossed, too.

    That was a problem of his during his very short stint here. Always complaining about calls

  58. stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    Heh.

    @AdamKilgoreWP: Steve Souza just left Class AAA Syracuse’s game … because he got ejected for arguing balls and strikes. Manager Billy Gardner tossed, too.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:22 PM

      You beat me to it!

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:25 PM

        Be interesting to have him and Harper in the same lineup. Umps would not be happy.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:29 PM

        That’s for sure. The “head case” rep some have discussed on young Souza isn’t endearing.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:41 PM

        DP beat both of us

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:42 PM

        Yes he did

  59. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    Stephen Souza out of AAA game because he was ejected.

    • adcwonk - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM

      You owe *two* guys beers for that one!

  60. zmunchkin - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Barring a trade for Beltre, I hope Rizzo does nothing. And I would not not be unhappy if he does nothing!

  61. philipd763 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Don’t expect anything earth shattering out of Rizzo like a acquisition of Martin Prado Adrian Beltre. If he does anything at all, he will pick up another Blevins type. The Zimmerman and Werth eye watering contracts have his hands tied and the Lerners have zipped up their purses.

  62. Section 222 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Drinks may be in order for the Souza round robin. :-)

    http://prettyfrickenbueno.wordpress.com/

  63. Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:33 PM

    At the least we need a reliever, but the market is being held up by Miller. Send Barrett to AAA until Sept.

    • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM

      The Sox asking price for Miller is laughable. If someone wants to pay that, good for them

      • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM

        Don’t be shocked if the Braves do ir. They are drooling ovrr that guy.

      • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM

        Don’t be shocked if the Braves do ir. They are drooling ovrr that guy.

      • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:06 PM

        Typos and double post. Sorry.

  64. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Lackey to STL

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:36 PM

      Where is the offense going to come from?

  65. snerdblurter - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:36 PM

    Sounding more and more like Cabrera….

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:37 PM

      I’ll be mad if we have to give up too much for him.

      • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:40 PM

        Agreed. He’s an upgrade, but not enough of one to justify a big return. If we get him for cheap, I think it could be a nice move.

      • stoatva - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:40 PM

        This Cabrera is not the Cabrera you are looking for.

      • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:48 PM

        I would be very surprised if he costs us anything that would upset Nats fans. He’s a short term rental who provides a slight upgrade at a position of need, not really a valuable asset that will draw lots of interest to drive up the price. And he’s useless to the Indians, so they’ll move him for anything they can get.

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:44 PM

      Rental having a down year. Shouldn’t be too expensive.

  66. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Asdrubal isn’t bad. Down year, but still league average offense. Even this year is better than Espi (especially against RHP). Career numbers are very solid. If he’s cheap, it could be a decent pickup. But not the big bat some wanted.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      Has to be cheap but no illusions, that isn’t the blockbuster.

      I heard teams inquiring on Gio Gonzalez. Wow!

      I guess you can ask for anything.

      • snerdblurter - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM

        Was discussing this the other day, but if the playoffs started today, who would be your NLDS starters? Wouldnt Gio be the odd man out? I guess you could argue Roark could come out of the pen as the long guy if any of the horses struggled early, but that’s a pretty poor way to use a guy who ranks in the top 10 in the league in ERA, WHIP and WAR.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        I’d do it for Beltre + a reliever straight up.

  67. philipd763 - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    Cardinals just picked up John Lackey.

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:52 PM

      For Allen Craig and Joe Kelly

      • Faraz Shaikh - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:54 PM

        doesn’t that seem a bit high for him?

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      Kelly is a borderline mid rotation starter and Craig has had a bad year. Tough call.

  68. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    “@JeffPassan: That would be Allen Craig and Joe Kelly for John Lackey. My goodness. RT @pgammo: Sox get Kelly, Craig for Lackey”

    From World Series to bust. Break up the band.

    This is what the Phoolies should have been doing. Texas Rangers also.

    Red Sox with some nice hauls back.

  69. Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:55 PM

    Can someone please explain what “rental” means exactly? My interpretation is it’s someone you pick up until the season is over, then trade them away to some other team. Secondary interpretation is that “rental” implies the player will be traded back to the trading partner when the season is over.

    I suspect that there are some other implications I’m missing even if either of the above is correct.

    • Faraz Shaikh - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:57 PM

      I thought it simply meant a player who will be a FA at the end of current season.

    • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:57 PM

      It refers to a player who is a free agent at the end of the year. So you only get them for 2 months

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:57 PM

      Trading for a player who will be a free agent after the season.

    • Drew - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM

      “Rental” means you’re securing the player solely for the rest of the season ie Houston’s deal with Seattle for the Big Unit.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM

      Rental is someone you trade for mid-season who will be out of contract by the end of the season like Jon Lester.

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      Sounds like there’s violent agreement on this one. Thanks all!

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        “Hired gun” is another definition.

      • adcwonk - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        Lots of entries in the NIDO spreadsheet for that one!

        Beers for lots of folks. And, according to a rule I just made up: Eric gets one for asking the question that got 3-4 same answers.

        I’ll just watch all you guys get sloshed ;-)

  70. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    “@dgoold: Sense around #Cardinals right now: stunned. Players, including ones dealt, are just stunned. #stlcards”

    Like I said, Boston doing great today. If they trade Miller, trifecta.

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:07 PM

      Desi’s “tough time for some of us” comment makes me wonder if any Nats players who are dealt might not be so stunned.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        Just Espinosa in a couple scenarios but I think Desi was talking about life in general and the trade deadline trepidation.

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        Certainly seems reasonable (general trepidation, long road trip, Zim injury, etc).

      • adcwonk - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:22 PM

        Isn’t “tough time” based on: they had just lost two to the Marlins, and RZ to injury?

  71. jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Great move for Boston. Kelly is 26 and Lackey is 35.Craig is another power bat but really more of a DH type. Boston seems to be collecting these with Ortiz, Cespedes and Craig.

    Cherington is grasping that his team isn’t going back to the promised land with their collection of aged stars and is working hard at shedding payroll and getting younger. Still picking up valuable pieces.

    Exactly right about the Phills. Except that they are about 2 years too late. I think Texas thinks it can back to contention when Fielder returns next year, also Profar.

  72. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    “Ghost of Steve M. on July 31, 2014 at 11:03 am

    Rizzo trying for a 3 team trade. Those take time. It better be for Beltre or Castro or Utley. All others are so-so”

    Texas wants starting pitching and outfielder for Beltre. Do you go Gio Gonzalez and Souza or try a 3 team trade with Houston to supply the pitcher.

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM

      Gio? How do we come close to replacing him through Sept and beyond?

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        I honestly don’t know how that might be answered, or if it can be.

        But, my personal preference would be a 3-team trade so Houston can supply the pitcher…but what do they get, and from whom?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:13 PM

        No clue. Teams can ask and Rizzo can say NO. If it’s for Beltre, say hello Blake Treinen.

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:15 PM

        You mean, Rizzo would do Gio and Souza for Beltre, and we’d slot Blake into the rotation?

        Totally in over my head here, but is Treinen good for the run?

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM

      Seems like a lot to give up for a 35 year old. Don’t think I’d do it. Maybe give Detwiler instead of Gio? But then you’d better have a way to get some lefthanded bullpen help.

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:13 PM

        I like this, including the LHrP dependency.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:14 PM

        Yah, you hate to open up other holes by fixing one which is why the 3 team trade makes sense.

  73. philipd763 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Craig is also a liability defensively.

  74. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 20s
    Tigers and Red Sox “getting close” to deal for Andrew Miller, source says.

    Good, keep him out of Atlanta

  75. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Frustrating nothing has happened yet but glad Rizzo isn’t looking desperate.

    Red Sox going for that trifecta. Andrew Miller on his way to Detroit.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:21 PM

      Hearing rumor of O’Flarherty to Nats.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        Barves would love that! Hope it’s for Blevins

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        Now that would be a nice pickup. I think he just returned a few weeks ago.

  76. Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:19 PM

    Gio’s contract is extremely team friendly. He has a lot of value.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:27 PM

      Yes, and a long-term piece for Nats and cost controllable.

  77. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Rumor that Robbie Ray would be included in Miller deal. Now that would be funny, if true.

  78. passedappetizers - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

    Relevant in a few hours, how does the waiver system work from a technical/mechanical standpoint. Everyone talks about the “waiver wire,” but I have to believe nothing has been done by “wire” for a while. How to teams find out who’s been put on waivers and how do they make claims? Is there a secure website that GMs access, an insane number of faxes, email . . . ?

  79. Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    While we’re waiting for something to happen trade-wise, have I ever mentioned how glad I am that we didn’t get BJ Upton, but ended up with Denard Span instead?

    BJ struck out 4 times last night and has now stuck out 7 out of his last 8 AB’s. He has 134 K’s so far this year and has a .282 OBP.

    I like our lead off hitter better than theirs.

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:34 PM

      Agreed!

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:37 PM

      Man, that’s just not fair. I’d rather have Espi leading off than BJ, let alone Span!!!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:49 PM

      Remember all the celebratory photos of the Upton brothers and Barves fans proclaiming that would put them over the top!

      I still have bad memories of one poster here who was begging a trade with Tampa for him to include Ian Desmond and JZim.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:01 PM

        Yes, I remember all of the above, Steve.

  80. Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:36 PM

    I find it hard to believe the Phillies don’t trade anyone……

    • Doc - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:39 PM

      Nobody wants their high-priced old fogies!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:44 PM

      Marlon Byrd seems a no brainer and so is AJ Burnett. Utley and Cliff Lee and Papelbon are more complicated.

      • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        way to trade Eat some $$$ and make a deal.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        Looks like that first shoe fell. Marlon Byrd to the Yankees.

      • letswin3 - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:11 PM

        Great!! Byrd out of the lineup tonight.

  81. coop202 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    Obligatory price suggestion time now that he’s moving

  82. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    Marlon Byrd to Yankees

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM

      Good deal if they got to included Ryan Howard as PTBNL. ;)

  83. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:53 PM

    Marlon Bryd to Yanks.

    • water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:53 PM

      Byrd. What did they get back?

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:56 PM

      The Yankees never quit.

  84. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    So, if Price goes to Mariners, does that change the Rangers plans for next year. Angels loaded, Mariners loaded & A’s loaded. Maybe, the decided to reload? Here’s hoping.

  85. Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Great news about Byrd in advance of this weekend (depending on what they got in return, I suppose)…keep ‘em coming Phils!!!

  86. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM

    Could Nats look at Bonifacio? Just throwing that out there. Speed and tenacious and has played 2nd and outfield.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:03 PM

      Lord, please no to Bonifacio. That ship has sailed.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:06 PM

      He is apparently in play. Pretty good fit.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:07 PM

        I don’t see how Bonifacio is an upgrade. Doesn’t hit enough.

  87. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    “@AdamKilgoreWP: As @Ken_Rosenthal said, Nats talked with Mets about 2B Dan Murphy. Doesn’t sound like it gained much traction at this point.”

    Way to get on it Kilgore!

  88. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Byrd didn’t get traded. It was a fake tweet that Jim Bowden stole

    • snerdblurter - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:13 PM

      Sending out fake tweets 2 hours before the deadline? Nice work, Jimbo.

    • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:22 PM

      And then Bowden deleted his tweeter account. Tells you all you need to know about Jimbo.

    • chaz11963 - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM

      HAHAHAHA… that’s classic

  89. Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Brewers get OF Parra from the DBacks.

  90. water47 - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Word is for Tigers to land Price they would have to give up Smyly. Wasn’t Smyly’s development the reason they traded Fister. That deals is looking better and better for Nats.

  91. Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    Wait, seriously? Byrd wasn’t moved? Lame!

  92. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    Was off the grid for almost three hours. Not a word from Zero Dark Rizzo. No mentions on MLB Network Trade Deadline special. No idea who he’s in on, not in on. etc.

    I’m thinking 3-tame trade w/ Rangers/Rays involving Price and Beltre. Texas gets Price. We get Beltre. Rays get Detwiler to replace Price and whatever else anyone thinks of in terms of prospects.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:02 PM

      Why would Texas trade for Price and trade away Beltre at the same time? Either they plan to compete next season or they don’t.

  93. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    The problem with Bonifacio is he hits way better from the right side. We have one of those already.

  94. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    “@GordonEdes: Tigers are NOT getting Andrew Miller”

    Ok then.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:40 PM

      Anywhere but ATL

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:40 PM

        “@yankeeblogger: #Yankees News: Yankees Have Not Acquired Marlon Byrd – 12:57pm: Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that no… http://t.co/dGQsO6QB3b

  95. Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Billy Burns optioned to AAA:

    http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140731&content_id=87237600&vkey=pr_oak&c_id=oak

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:33 PM

      I wish we could option Jerry Blevins to AAA

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:34 PM

        Or to Irkutsk.

  96. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    60-40 on the voting that Rizzo DOESN”T make a trade (10 votes so far).

    • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:35 PM

      Voting where?

      • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        Put up a poll on my site. Upper right corner. Deadline for voting is 4 pm. here

        Apparently people with iPads can’t get to the poll.

      • Eric - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:59 PM

        Thanks, voted.

        If Rizzo’s making a deal, he’s doing a great job of keeping things under wraps.

    • secretwasianman - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:48 PM

      I vote he wont trade.

  97. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:58 PM

    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 32s
    Andrew Miller not going to #Tigers, per @jonmorosi. Not going to #Braves either, per source.

  98. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:59 PM

  99. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Asdrubal Cabrera has been traded. No word where.

  100. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Cabrera to Nats

  101. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Whom does that leave?

  102. coop202 - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    Cabrera apparently traded into the either

    • coop202 - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:02 PM

      *ether

    • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

      You CALLIN’ the Nats the ether?????

      • coop202 - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:34 PM

        Haha no just commenting on the mlbtr post

  103. NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:02 PM

    • NatsLady - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM

      No word on who went to Cleveland. Can’t be much. All you who voted “YES,” take a bow.

      • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

        Walters to Cleveland

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM

        SWM,

        Wrong again.

      • Another Tyler - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:07 PM

        bow

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:09 PM

        Cabrera is a definite offensive upgrade over Espinosa. Had 2 excellent years in 11 and 12. Lousy year last year and much better this year. Defensive metrics negative but he played SS for Cleveland and he will almost certainly play 2nd base for us. He’s a rental likely necessitated by the Zim injury.

        I like the move.

  104. jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:03 PM

    Andrew Miller to the Orioles apparently.

    • rayvil01 - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:12 PM

      Bosox really had a good day.

  105. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Walters for Cabrera. I like it. I don’t like Walters.

    • Danny - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:09 PM

      I’ll take it! Walters minor league numbers don’t equal a productive major league imo. Too many Ks, low OBP.

      • David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:10 PM

        Cleveland sent cash, too

      • jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:12 PM

        Cabrera career no.s

        .280 .341 .410 averages roughly 14 HR’s and 65 RBI’s a year. Hit 25 HR’s in 2011.

    • bowdenball - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:12 PM

      Me too. I just don’t see Walters’ bat ever playing in the bigs. Nobody who Ks at that rate against minor league pitching succeeds long term against big league ptiching- a lesson Nats fans have already learned over and over with Corey Brown, Tyler Moore, and a long list of others.

    • zmunchkin - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:13 PM

      I am OK with it. A pretty minor move IMO. I bet that Danny will still be in the mix. A platoon with Cabrera.

      • zmunchkin - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:20 PM

        Cabrera has pretty much the same numbers vs. lefties and righties. But against lefties, Danny is much better:

        Cabrera: .248 .284 .400 .684
        Danny: .295 .375 .474 .849

        Given Danny’s glove, I think you will see Cabrera against RHP and Danny against LHP.

  106. David Proctor - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 38s

    The Indians are getting Zach Walters in the deal, and Cleveland sending some cash to Washington in the deal.

  107. jd - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Bench and bullpen upgrades could still happen. Maybe even in August.

  108. hitmeimopen - Jul 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    Nats send Z Walters to CLE for Asdrubal Cabrera…nice?

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